I’ve been using Urabrask’s Forge for the combo, it’s a consistent +1 oil counter a turn, which also starts the infinite

Maybe it's just because I'm waking up, but as cool as this combo is outside of that cool Selesnya deck my eyes are glazing over watching Rakdos deck after Rakdos deck.

Invasion of Azgol should be in the deck. It plays well with both ob and All Will Be One.

Seth: There's too much Rakdos in standard. But Seth, you're playing Rakdos. Seth: Yes, but my Rakdos is cheeky and fun, and thier Rakdos is cruel and tragic.

Bummer that against the odds in standard has become sub optimal rakdos

FYI: Invoke despair would have wrecked you in that first game, the creature sac is first so you cant choose the kiki as the enchantment

I made an Ob Nix brawl deck. I didn't realize Oni Cult could sac itself 😂 Some of these cards are definitely gonna make the combo more efficient, thanks!

You become what you swore to destroy

Just checked out the intro, am I missing something, or wouldn’t having Ob Captive+All Will Be One+Ob planeswalker mean that all you would have to do is “+1” the planeswalker then direct the All Will Be One damage to the opponent??? That would set off the combo without needing devils.

Should have been called "Ob will deal One"

Pun in deck name = has to be an entertaining watch

idk I played on ladder today and of the 10 matches I played I was one of 3 "rakdos" decks. the rest were callix mono red/black/white and I think one control deck. as much as I play now I really just rarely see enough of the so called problem decks as I see a huge mix playing the same lines every time. felt alot like grinding modern and I kinda love that

7:00 bro the lil "oops" got me offguard lmfao 😂😂

I think the answer to Invoke Despair destroying the All Will Be One is a throwaway enchantment on the battlefield. I am thinking Bitter Reunion or Phyrexian Arena. Especially the latter might even draw regular enchantment removal.

Even better, on today's episode of Against the Obs

Love Thermo-Alchemist with Ob. Had several situations of pinging to dig to find removal, play removal to untap therm, profit.

I think the best way to beat tier 1 decks like rakdos and grixis is to not think of the combo in isolation. I'm going to try a boros soldier splash black just to include Ob Kingpin and take advantage of all the white cards that put counters (Siege Veteran, Wedding Announcement, Intrepid Adversary, Wandering Emperor). It would also use some global removals, maybe one each, Farewell, Sunfall, Burn Down the House, to deal with too many creatures and an uncontrolled bord, and smaller End the Festivities removals. Maybe a Sheoldred or two to get some life. I imagine that this way we would have cards for the opponent to interact with removals and counterspells and by the time the combo happened, the table would already be more controlled. Another alternative is to just put All Will Be One and the Ob in rakdos! XD

Love that he did this, but I have been jamming a RWU All Will be one combo deck since ONE and Read Ahead Sagas are real spicy.

I have a pinger deck with Obie as the commander and I am absolutely loving it. Especially when you pull out an all will be one and kill everyone XD

What to do about standard content? Do what CGB did, where he took some time off standard to focus on hbrawl. But with explorer or historic

Love the combo, always super satisfying to see the triggers coming on At 3:18 you coud have attacked with the devil to trigger creature Ob, if you find the land you then play AWBO and uptick PW Ob for the win :)

I liked Amazonian's version of the combo better, but I liked the inclusion of blast zone to start off the combo and the usage of the vat that was pretty cool.

I'd like to see some of the standard decks you make in other formats. It would be the same concept with the card from that format

i woulda never considered the vat of rebirth. Nice call

What do you think about chaotic transformation flipping Ob and AWBO into play? Can run a heavier control suite.

If you sac with anvil on your end step you will keep ob's exiled card until your next end step

Van Halen? 🎶 Pinging with the deviiillllllll....

these are the types of combos that make players uninstall. like me. just saw it in gold 1 Bo1 standard. it would make sense in Historic or Brawl, but I suppose I didn't have enchantment destruction (my deck had 2 Static Net + 2 Disenchant) at the time, so instead of the usual punish, I just straight up lose the game without counter play. fun and interactive.

would love to see a historic brawl series

There's something kinda surreal about Seth complaining about the one-deck meta while playing a janky version of that deck. I mean, it isn't Seth's fault - he was given a Rakdos combo to build around, and the Bankbuster/Harvester/Fable core of the deck are just so good at what they do that it's really hard to justify not running it if you're in those colors anyway. It doesn't help that the card he was asked to build around has a single obvious combo that fits neatly into that shell *anyway*. Seth, I'd personally be fine with it if you decided to stop doing regular Standard content and switched over to primarily recording Pioneer/Modern.

I went Jund ramp with battles, scrapgorger and evolving adaptive in best of one and done well with it

Anvil might be worth it with blood/treasure/sac itself synergies, but the rest of the artifact package felt like a trap. What if you replaced it with enchantments that synergize instead, to act as shields for your combo pieces vs. invoke despair? Kumano faces kakkazan, okkiba reckoner raid, curse of leeches and even the red go-shintai are enchantments/creatures that can also cause the opponent to lose 1 life at various points, meaning before setup they're a shield and after setup they're a trigger.

my favorite time to play standard was when innistrad and avacyn were in the block. those were fun. angel of serenity and thragtusk. before that i played bant chant with geist of saint traft. havent played standard since cause it feels like things have just gone stale

Would you be interested in trying out Standard Brawl for variety sake? I'm not sure how fun Brawl is, but I expect it to bet a lot more diversity from the extra year of Standard.

If there was a drinking game to drink every time someone plays a Fable, people would die.

Maybe for content take some of the former against the odds decks, budget decks, and single scoops from crim and expand upon them? Although I wouldnt know much I only have the decks they gave out for completing taks lol

So this hand we have our obi-wan. GG, naturally.

I mean, it's no Niv-Mizzet and Curiosity, but still pretty nutty.

i'm curious how arena handles infinite combos that are auto-triggered/forced to resolve like this one in an unwinnable situation. like, say this combo starts on someone with the book of exalted deeds on a faceless haven. since the top card is exiled instead of drawn, does that prevent the Ob player losing by not actually drawing the top card? if so, do we actually create something arena is actually forced to repeat until a player concedes?

Do you deliberately sac your kiki to invoke despair to prevent a card draw or is this a whiff/punt?

13:14 We can do drugs!

Is it the same deck all the time cause i fight a lot on my way to diamond though maybe cause when i play means something

I made a mono red pure artifact deck that's called "f*uck go for the Throat". That's my way to get back at standard. It kind of works

I can't believe they missed the opportunity to name the deck "All will be Ob"

"we took down rakdos, we took down the best deck in the format!" *Also playing rakdos*

I don’t know if there’s much you can do against a stale meta. You can build against it, but that doesn’t stop you from having to see it every single match. You can switch to an adjacent format like Brawl or Alchemy but that’s just running away from the problem.

Good job Saffron Olive!!!!!

Urbs forge seems cool, gonna see all the options. Ob is legit w AWB1

Do you lose with this combo in edh by decking out?

This feels like Tr-Ob-al C-Ob-o.

So, looking at the top meta decks, they all pretty much include Fable and Invoke, would banning those do anything? is there any case for keeping fable?

Hot take, Invoke Despair should be Restricted. Bring back Restricted! Having a one of keeps it powerful and supports Grixis but knocks it down to reasonable levels.

Love combos like this. Just as good as Niv/Curiosity combo.

Not standard, but All Will Be One combos hilariously with Dark Depths

I think underworld dreams would be a good inclusion, dlconsidering the meta. It guarantees the 1 damage on opponents draw phase, and it gives you more options to either bait out invoke despair or at least give other options for sacrifice

I think you should do more content with historic, it’s a pretty cool and interesting format. That or more modern, the modern meta’s gotten spicy with creativity dethroning izzet murktide.

Hey Seth, if all the decks are going to be Rakdos Midrange, I say just only try to design decks to shit on it haha. Maybe that's hard with it being the best deck in the format and all, but I believe in you

Content... um, do you mean for you brewing or your opponents? I mean in June you can play Historic for 3 months cause of LOTR... but I'm not sure if that's an improvement.

I nabbed mine the same thing haha😂

I am once again asking for a video of Saffron saying Bloodtithe Harvester @8:57

You should build 34 bloodtithe harvester

I see the only opportunity to fix standard in mass ban of rakdos. Like sheoldred+reflection+invoke for sure, we can add blood tithe harvester in the mix to be certain this monstrosity is dead, but no guarantee XD

Urabrask’s forge would also be good for the counter and is a good aggressive card

Combo this with Vito, Exquisite blood, and the other vampire that isn't legendary but does Vito at a single damage instead exact damage for life gain

Surge of salvation for the win.

That tshirt tho! ❤

10:38 why did you not play the All Will Be One fairly here? Then next turn 2 counters on anything (e.g. Blast Zone on board), and you can kill the Kiki, etc.

this was obviously recorded before the bnr announcment, but I'd say that for when standard gets stagnant like this, you can probably get away with 3 of the 5 matches being the same deck. If you can't get two different decks for the last two matches, upload a 4 match video with 3 of them being the same matchup, and if you can't get any, then just post 4 of the same matchup.

Invoke should be a 30$ rare but I guess other very very narrow stuff is "worth" more lol.

Lithomantic Barrage is a good answer to Raffine.

Oni cult is so fun rn

Taking down grixis feels so good doesn’t it 😂

> “Against the Odds” > Fable, Bloodtithe, Bankbuster

Seth once again with the early scoops.

updated post reckoner fables bans in standard??

In the ban discussion, I honestly think invoke despair is the card that needs to be banned, not fable. I wouldn’t be upset to see fable go by any means, but invoke gives black a payoff to deal with enchantments which they should have difficulty with and is always a 1 for 3 in any situation. Its just too consistent a payoff with such good mana fixing in standard to make the 4 black pips not really matter.

For standard videos, maybe create an artificial meta by playing two jank decks against each other, you & crim or phil. house ban fable and/or sheoldred / invoke. there are cool things to be done buried under the rakdos menace.

Spikefield hazard wouldn`t be good for the combo?

Ob Nixilis The Adversary - Bobby Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingping - Robert

i will try this to rank ahahah

The standard change means that we are either getting a super boring format which is already solved, or that the upcoming sets are so pushed that the rotation will be forced through power creep. None of those two options sounds like something to look for =(. Regarding your content, I think explorer and pioneer are a nice place to explore. It seems to me that there is some fun to be had there

Maybe I don't want to move up the ladder after all

Mad the Combo is not name All will be Ob

If it makes you feel better, in match 2, kayla's reconstruction looks at 7 cards bo matter what X was. Technically, you got lucky, they paid an extra one for no gain.

Vat is not busted nor anything like that, but i can easily have it up to 4 on turn 4 and reanimage atraxa

Ping decks has never look this good

I don’t care about it being the same match up. Every format has the most popular deck, at least standard is fun for me, and as a not super enfranchised player who doesn’t play more than once a week, it’s mostly noise hearing about standard right now.

We got bans coming on the 29th. I don’t mind watching standard content, but if you’re tired of playing it you could wait and see what happens until then.

Ngl I would have gone for "All will be nixed".

"we beat the meta rakdos deck" as his deck is almost the exact same deck list with a few small changes 😂

I built this deck funniest shit was I was playing against a white toxic deck and I only had Ob, witty roast master I’m going through all these plays their about to hit me with 6 tokens. I’m doing all these plays in my head and realize hey they have skelvs hive so I just played all will be one and ended my turn so fast they lost on the beginning of their upkeep

Missed opportunity to call this episode "against the Obs"

Seems broken… do you think wizards does a soft ban on ob aka banned from standard only?

I’m not the only one that is irked by seeing the floating, but sitting Ob, am I? Also, why not “Against the Ob time”?

It's Obing time

Take out transmogrant for kumano faces kakkazan. Saga counters trigger all will be one

shouldn't have blocked ventilated cockshaft with Ob. If you block w/ devil instead you live, and have another shot at the land, and if you hit it, your opponent's skrelv's hive would have started the combo off.

What to do about standard? Play pauper

stopped playing standard a couple months ago. It just doesn’t feel good or fun anymore. R&D also needs to really rethink their processes in regards to evaluating their own cards…B/R/x piles shouldn’t be so unbalanced if they knew how to properly evaluate power level

I really do feel like standard is a tier 0 format. The next ban announcement cannot come soon enough