I tried EVERY UMAMI ingredient on steaks and this happened!

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7 ай бұрын

There is one thing that makes everything taste better. That is called Monosodium glutamate also known as UMAMI which is our 5th taste. Today I tried to replace salt with every umami ingredient I know, the results were not what I expected.
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@CharloBagis 7 ай бұрын

Hey Guga, I like to use wood instead of charcoal. My uncle who's a carpenter gives me leftover wood pieces (most of the time leftover oak) which I use to cook steaks. Would you be interested in doing a video comparing wood vs charcoal BBQ?

@goksir5845 7 ай бұрын

maybe even try some expensive wood types made for this kinda thing to see if they impart flavour

@kylem3373 7 ай бұрын

Hopefully non treated wood?

@Toothlessthedragon_ 7 ай бұрын

@kylem3373 Most likely, my stepfather is a carpenter, and we have only ever worked with untreated wood, or at least I have.

@wikuscarstens5264 7 ай бұрын

We South Africans MOSTLY use firewood (untreated) when we BRAAI and would agree, a charcoal vs firewood video. Keep up the great work/experiments !

@OSUBeaver03 7 ай бұрын

On that note testing charcoal lump vs briquettes, with or without lighter fluid?

@Eaglesman3620 7 ай бұрын

I’m convinced Guga just says any side dish is super simple 😂

@12kWithNoVids 7 ай бұрын

Sous vide some meat for 24 hrs. Simmer your charred chicken feet for 3 hours. Heat your stone bowl slowly for a few hours. These are all technically "simple" but definitely not quick, easy, or anything that a typical home cook is ever going to bother with

@Skyl3lazer 7 ай бұрын

@@12kWithNoVids Sous Vide is super easy it just requires a circulator (which you can get for cheap now). It's not any harder than throwing something in a slow cooker for a day.

@marcooriani5061 4 ай бұрын

@@Skyl3lazer What do u mean for cheap? I tried looking for one on amazon some time ago and couldn't find anything that costed less than a 120$. Could u recomend something?

@Skyl3lazer 4 ай бұрын

@@marcooriani5061 target has a "Monoprice Sous Vide Immersion Cooker 800W" for $70 right now, I'm sure you can get them for less during bigger sales. Look for immersion circulators, they just attach to the side of a pot of water. You don't need an entire dedicated sous vide tank. E; home Depot has one for $57

@teremelo5035 Ай бұрын

😅😂

@kaszalotyvlog5728 7 ай бұрын

This "quite easy" side dish is more complicated than anything I've ever cooked

@noideas439 7 ай бұрын

“Take some short ribs that I sous veid” lmfao

@valkyriesurvives5109 7 ай бұрын

@@noideas439to be fair sous vide is really simple once you have a circulator

@_OpFor 7 ай бұрын

"I just sous veid some short rib for 24 hours" lmao

@wykdclwn1 7 ай бұрын

😂😂

@nemure 7 ай бұрын

This is because this donut is nothing but a character. I guarantee you if people could see behind the camera or listen to their honest opinion, not the scripted, channel would close super duper fast.

@wakemiamigreatagain 7 ай бұрын

The first ingredient in Hondashi is SALT, then MSG, Sugar and then bonito, etc. Hondashi is not a salt replacement since the first ingredient is salt!

@jono6379 7 ай бұрын

Yeah and usually with labelling the first ingredient is the most, so Hondashi is mostly salt lol

@KuaEtus 7 ай бұрын

@jono6379 Usually not, it is law in the US and most of the world. So yea, that thing is mostly salt 😅.

@benjaminvdvyt 7 ай бұрын

Yup, Guga needs to do his research (aka reading the package) before making these claims. It's the same with like seasoning for chicken, 9 times out of 10 it's like 80+% salt, yet people say they didn't use salt to season...

@blurfs3763 7 ай бұрын

SODIUM glutamate IS SALT. Gochugong 6 grams (1 tsp) is 150mg salt.

@RyanEglitis 7 ай бұрын

I don't know why they do MSG only tests anymore at this point - the ones without salt always lose.

@Tekn0Afr0 7 ай бұрын

OK, here's an idea. Let's get Guga to make a list of his choice of 10 "easy to make" side dishes, rank them 1-10 on actual difficulty... and have Angel and Leo make them and see how well they replicate the recipes 😂

@semmolenaar3145 7 ай бұрын

YESS

@zombidheman5134 7 ай бұрын

we must do it

@lunacy3 7 ай бұрын

Guga’s “simple” side dishes are as quick and easy as Joshua’s “simple” recipes😂

@AjZ530 7 ай бұрын

ujst because it has a lot of steps doesnt make it hard, each individual step seems quite easy tbf

@eltiolavara9 5 ай бұрын

i think it does, id rather 2 hard steps than 20 easy steps plus having to get a bunch of ingredients that might not be common where you live automatically makes food harder to make@@AjZ530

@Metal_Auditor 7 ай бұрын

Try the two that didn’t do as well again but with added salt. In my experience, no amount of flavors in a marinade can ever make up for a lack of salt.

@alexandresobreiramartins9461 7 ай бұрын

You're right. Nothing can make up for a lack of salt.

@gosera-1108 7 ай бұрын

The salt will make the other two also pop, when Guga says Hondashi doesnt have salt its wrong.. it got quite a bit, heck it even has sugar

@Metal_Auditor 7 ай бұрын

@@gosera-1108 well yeah, that’s why the Hondashi worked.

@slappyburrito9481 7 ай бұрын

@@gosera-1108 he said himself its salty while introducing the hondashi in editing. he appeared to backtrack about the salt content after the initial tasting then almost immediately said it has the "perfect amount of salt and flavour" lol. he just meant no "additional" salt was added to the steak after the marinade, he's aware there's salt in hondashi. i think it was just a language error that people are interpreting as guga not knowing what hes talking about.

@Marina_DU 7 ай бұрын

Guga's side dishes are becoming maind dishes 😂

@plectrumura 7 ай бұрын

OK, I never realized Guga has an adorable orange kitty. He needs to taste test some wagyu at some point.

@MyBlackandRedCZ 7 ай бұрын

I knew I couldn’t have been the only one who noticed! 😄

@christophernoble76 7 ай бұрын

he has definitely tried a bit 😂😂

@12kWithNoVids 7 ай бұрын

Or maybe dry age some cat meat?

@MyBlackandRedCZ 7 ай бұрын

5:37 Did anyone else’s eye go straight to the cat shaking its head? 😍

@daianspahava8279 7 ай бұрын

Guga you have to try different types of ceviche especially catching lion fish who are an invasive species in Florida, also I wanna see you make Beef Yukhoe, aka Korean marinated raw beef and you’ll love it! The sesame oil, the soy sauce, honey and garlic make such a great combination on rice that It’s so easy to make and try eye round sliced thinly and into Julienne will go well with bbq and you won’t regret it

@breezyfbaby8546 7 ай бұрын

Ceviche 🙏💯

@lactofermentation 7 ай бұрын

Yup. Eye of round makes good raw beef dishes. When sliced thin or diced fine, the texture really works. It has some bite instead of being pure mush.

@xilverxoul6917 7 ай бұрын

Guga! I have to thank you so much! I cooked my first filet mignon last week wrapped in bacon and basted in browned butter like you suggested before! Came out a tad over medium rare, but it tasted phenomenal! Would not have had the confidence to cook steak without your videos! Now I think I might have a shot at being the steak man in my family! XD

@ekaterinastacey3132 7 ай бұрын

Can we get a video testing one steak that's been marinated in a mix of 4-5 top seasonings that you've tested so far to see if they enhance each other?

@jaxbenjamin4731 7 ай бұрын

these edits are sending me XD The emo one was hilarious. i love seeing them along with your regular cooking. its fun!

@ShinAlive 7 ай бұрын

2:23 "And to make it, it's quite easy as you can make a lot of the things ahead of time" ... yeah, understatement of the year right here, Holy moly, even as a regular viewer this was a "hold up!" moment.

@JCD00 7 ай бұрын

I was just about to say this😂if this is "quite easy" for guga, i dont wanna see what he thinks is difficult 😂😂

@dedoyxp 7 ай бұрын

its the main dish all along

@AngelLopez-uf7og 7 ай бұрын

Without the tare sauce it is SO simple, just use Shoyu flavor ramen. Cut cabbage and boil with vinegar/sugar. Stick salted meat in low oven with beef stock for 4 hours. Cook ramen, add meat and cabbage. Add mushrooms. It’s only like 10 minutes of hands on work.

@sheep4483 3 ай бұрын

@@AngelLopez-uf7og even the tare is rather simple (you don't need to blow torch the ingredients), there are several components but each component is very simple in itself, the hardest part would probably just be finding these some of these ingredients (at least where I live), and the cabbage you could just pickle normally without boiling which would take more time but would be even easier

@BakersTuts 7 ай бұрын

Since you mentioned MSG, here is a video idea for you. I recently learned that snacks that use MSG sometimes also contain Disodium Inosinate and Disodium Guanylate (aka DSI/DSG or I+G) to enhance the effect of MSG by 5x stronger (for example, Doritos, Pringles, KFC, Snyders Pretzel Pieces, Hidden Valley Ranch Dressing, etc). From what I’ve seen, some people buy a 50/50 premix of DSI and DSG (for example, by the brand Make It Meaty) and then make a custom mix of 97g MSG and 3g DSI/DSG to make an “enhanced MSG mix”. I was thinking the experiment could be this: 1. Steak + Salt Pepper Garlic (control) 2. Steak + SPG + MSG 3. Steak + SPG + MSG + DSI/DSG Then maybe you could do a mini test with maybe another meat like chicken or maybe a potato based side dish or something, so we can see how it works with and without the MSG+DSI/DSG. I can even see the video title already “Food scientists say THIS makes MSG BETTER!” Anyways, I hope you give it a shot!

@Crowbars2 7 ай бұрын

lol, I've been asking Guga to do this since the "I added MSG to everything and this happened!" in March 2021. Maybe a verified user could finally get this to Guga's attention! For some reason, several comments I've written about it in Guga's recent videos keep getting deleted. Maybe he's actually working on it?

@gosera-1108 7 ай бұрын

It would be intresting, the experiment today with Hondashi also has Disodium Inosinate and disodium succinate, mixed with salt and msg

@BakersTuts 7 ай бұрын

@@Crowbars2he’s hearted one of my comments before, so I know he’s seen it. I just don’t know if these comments get flagged as spam or not, since I suggest it so often

@BakersTuts 7 ай бұрын

@@gosera-1108it’s a pretty common ingredient tbh. It would just be nice to see how the “pure” version tastes without any other ingredients affecting the flavor of the meat.

@fullmetalcorgi1350 7 ай бұрын

Have you tried sous vide'ing a pineapple and then tenderizing it with steak?

@rogermccaslin5963 7 ай бұрын

Ah, the old Uno reverse card. 😁

@deborah_chrysoprase 7 ай бұрын

THIS SO MUCH

@jono6379 7 ай бұрын

"no salt" the first ingredient in hondashi is literally salt😂

@OfficialHavocOsiris 7 ай бұрын

Certainties of life: Death, taxes, and The Guga making side dishes that could honestly be the star of today’s show

@kakkoiradio 7 ай бұрын

Guga this noodle dish looked crazy good!

@pmac7887 7 ай бұрын

Guga, would love to see you do something with hanger steaks. Far and away my favorite cut and no one seems to do much with them

@stephenbaluran3298 7 ай бұрын

This needs a part 2. That MSG marinade looked promising. Maybe do an experiment with a standard Guga steak, an MSG-marinated steak with salt added before the sear, and then an MSG-marinated steak with salt added in the marinade.

@ChiliPepperMadness 7 ай бұрын

Interesting! Love seeing these interesting challenges!

@TARAROAD 7 ай бұрын

That side dish looks fantastic 🤤 great video thanks 🙏

@Syh0420 7 ай бұрын

I used to have kombu salt in japanese bbq restaurant, it is better to put the kombu salt on the steak after the steak is cooked, as the salt content isnt high. It is more like a dressing salt to me. It pairs super well with wagyu A5 tho.

@aaronsebastian5156 7 ай бұрын

Speaking of salt substitutes, I would love to see Guga use his classic dry brine technique on picanha and do a direct comparison between regular salts and potassium-based salt.

@madthumbs1564 7 ай бұрын

I'm interested in finding the perfect combination of salt / msg / potassium chloride.

@Zeulara 7 ай бұрын

more vids like this guga we lovin them

@bourbakis 7 ай бұрын

Having asked for the Hondashi experiment for a while, finally I got to see it! I use it everyday on all kinds of dishes, even oatmeal, love the deep umami flavor.

@kingskald5832 7 ай бұрын

Would love to see a steak dry aged in cashew dust. Or see you cook something with the combination of grape jelly and chili sauce

@alexandresobreiramartins9461 7 ай бұрын

I think the dried fish would work better in a liquid marinade. But in the end, its better use is as a condiment in itself, eaten as a topping, I think.

@TheBaconWizard 7 ай бұрын

What dried fish?

@LoneTreeAdventures 7 ай бұрын

It looks good as always Guga! 💪

@tian1332 7 ай бұрын

its not monosodium glutamate that's in the kelp it is natural glutamic acid which is different than msg, msg is the synthetic glutamic acid attached to a salt(mono sodium glutamate ), the natural glutamic acid contained in seaweed tomatoes and mushrooms are much healthier alternatives to synthetic version. I believe msg is made by extracting glutamic acid from natural sources then reacting it with sodium hydroxide.(could be more complicated ). love the videos btw

@VirdsEyeBiew 7 ай бұрын

That picture looks like gore😂

@OMR3333 7 ай бұрын

BROOOOOO💀

@Faintestsoup631 7 ай бұрын

Dun dun dunun dun dununununun

@cloudstrife4866 Ай бұрын

@@Faintestsoup631oh no

@chairofthebored 7 ай бұрын

Guga there's a powder that contains both glutamates and inosinates, both produce UMAMI and together do it in a synergystic way, it's even better than just MSG by itself. You need to do a comparison of steaks: 1 with no umami, 1 with msg, 1 with the combo powder

@jono6379 7 ай бұрын

The ingredients for the Hondashi he used in this video, Salt, MONOSODIUM GLUTAMATE, Lactose, Sugar, Dried Bonito Tuna Powder, DISODIUM INOSINATE, Bonito Extract, Yeast Extract, Disodium Succinate.

@chairofthebored 7 ай бұрын

@@jono6379 yes but that contains sugar and other ingredients, the powder i'm talking about is like the msg he uses, nothing else but DSI and MSG

@alexyafeelme9995 7 ай бұрын

Hey guys love the vids love being early too can’t wait to eat n watch

@DaveAtonal 7 ай бұрын

6:17 I can totally understand Angel, i don't like red cabbage either. 😅 As somebody else already suggested, please do try the last two with added salt, I think they are meant to enhance the flavours that way and not supposed to be used as salt replacements. As always, fantastic video, love it! 🤘

@HV-TV 7 ай бұрын

Guga u should dry age a steak in chicken stock, shrimp stock and beef stock

@ryancorm 7 ай бұрын

How? Those are liquids, you’d have to reduce it until it’s like a glaze to do it

@TheTrueZenix 7 ай бұрын

You should a "the well done experiment" next and try to make a well done steak taste as good as medium rare.

@eetfuk3571 7 ай бұрын

an A5 Wagyu will do the job. cook that mf well done and it will still be tender, yes I experienced it first hand already lmao.

@EvilOttoJrProductions 7 ай бұрын

Hondashi has been my steak secret weapon for years. Honestly it works perfectly well just sprinkling it on like you would salt, then add your black pepper and garlic, then sous vide, sear, and slice. You can add it to virtually any meat and it is just so good.

@raisin212k 7 ай бұрын

When I read the title I thought I was gonna see you MIX ALL UMAMI ingredients, THEN AGE the steak with the... umami super-compound. Idk how good it wld be but what a video!!

@ahha6304 7 ай бұрын

Guga, I want you to try 2 things, whether sous vide or marinated or dry aged with 1. real Thai Sriracha sauce, not just Vietnamese version I saw you used everytime 2. Thai seafood seasoning

@joehole1975 7 ай бұрын

I wonder where you’re from HMMMMM there’s no way to find out

@FistingGuru 7 ай бұрын

Cambodia food better 🇰🇭

@ahha6304 7 ай бұрын

@@FistingGuruplease I have enough nightmare

@FistingGuru 7 ай бұрын

@@ahha6304 🤣🤣

@raghavavalleti2419 7 ай бұрын

Guga once use garam Masala on steak and for side dish u can do any Indian biriyani ❤❤

@freestinje 7 ай бұрын

He did that on his sous vide channel

@raghavavalleti2419 7 ай бұрын

@@freestinje oh ok

@rocknrollguitar 7 ай бұрын

New reason to watch guga! Spot the garfield kittykat! Its so cute ❤

@ashleycross7593 7 ай бұрын

Love the orange boi chilling in the background while you grill the steaks.

@WhoRaisedYouDude 5 ай бұрын

Guga, this thumbnail clickbaited me. I still loved the video but I thought you were going to mix all the umami’s you could find together!!! Please for the love of all that is holy, do that 🙏

@c00lbutcr8zy 7 ай бұрын

Sushi chef here, the way you used the kombu is incorrect, you need to dehydrate or bake it further and then grind until a powder consistency. It becomes pure umami powder, but still needs a finishing salt at the end like maldon.

@GoldProspectingNoob 7 ай бұрын

hey you should try fish sauce! i put a little on all my steaks before salt pepper and garlic power its the best. gives a beautiful flavor

@Hahahahadonzb40897 6 ай бұрын

The orange kitty in the bbq shot was so cute

@opietheshell 7 ай бұрын

Guga out here trying to pass off another main as a side dish. Amazing work, everything looks delicious!!!

@lesimili-patissier278 7 ай бұрын

Hey guga, ever thought of making compilation videos featuring the many side dishes you've made? I often find myself looking specifically for those when I watch.

@HepCatJack 7 ай бұрын

A source of Umami/MSG that may be worth trying would be the ancient Roman sauce known as Garum fermented fish sauce. The fermenting process creates MSG as part of the sauce, it was very popular in the ancient world although its production was said to smell bad.

@HalfWhiteMoustache 7 ай бұрын

Hey Guga, people like Max for example like to koop over some different kinds of wood to give the meat a different kind of smoky flavour, but what if you try dry aging it in ash of those woods? Ash compount butter sous vide? Maybe you can get that charcoal flavour with a sous vide. Some ideas for you there.

@AlikKra 7 ай бұрын

Спасибо за отличное видео, прекрасная работа!

@MtnLife-sv9fu 7 ай бұрын

Gotta try the winner, keep on keepin on...

@TheTravelerNamedTagin 7 ай бұрын

*Epic music* cute kitty cat stretching in the background. Thanks for leaving them in

@nataliabasdeo9837 6 ай бұрын

Guga I'm watching for in the Caribbean Trinidad and Tobago 🇹🇹, love you're show and those beautiful steaks 🥩🎉

@tktyga77 7 ай бұрын

Guga, I bet you've never heard of tucupi or cassareep (which are both made from cooked cassava juice, but made slightly differently), but those too give lots of savory depth, as do iru (fermented locust beans) & other kinds of fermented beans. I bet you'd be pleasantly surprised how well fermented bean stuff can be beyond soybeans despite the sometimes strong smells

@bigredradish 7 ай бұрын

i think i might genuinely start using a sprinkle of dashi in my dry brines from here on out, i already like the stuff but never even considered using it outside of soups/stocks :O

@alexanderholder 7 ай бұрын

That's one of the best looking sides I've seen!

@coolasacucumber3421 7 ай бұрын

Easiest side dish so far, thanks Guga

@moukibrani516 7 ай бұрын

Editing during the taste test was great, had me cracking up multiple times 😂❤

@zstrode.8953 6 ай бұрын

Angel: "dayumm" 😂😂 idk why that cracked me up 😂😂

@SweetMamaG 7 ай бұрын

3:12 That sauce looks really awesome!

@ziyalenorris3561 7 ай бұрын

I noticed your editting style changed this was faster a probably easier to digest for most, But I do miss a bit of the banter your personalites show more. Love how clean it is, and as always great video guga!!!

@jarlsigurdstorvann9885 7 ай бұрын

Guga! would you wanna try an mayo experiment? if you make your own mayo with yoges and animals fats, wouldn it be cool to see wich mayo would taste the best on a sandwich or something?

@hyecutie1 7 ай бұрын

That look when Angel stares at Guga eating pinkish purplish stuff... Priceless

@gilbertogawa9372 7 ай бұрын

Guga, you should try with Shissô leaf. This is a japanese ingredient, dry and salty and really azedo.. It is the leaf of the peach tree (which they actually harvest the green peach which they make umeboshi. Look at a japanese market and you will find it easily). Btw do with Umeboshi also. Shissô is also sold diced and in small packaging. Cheers from Brazil.

@GilGTG 3 ай бұрын

I love this guest panelist. Can you up the panel to four and keep returning regularly?

@MeroxNorway 7 ай бұрын

love to watch your videos, never tasted a steak like that ever, i just cant afford it.. but it looks great.

@moviesovermatterproductions 7 ай бұрын

Good Lord guys! I’m in lunch break and still so very hungry for this perfect meal! Well done! 🌹👏🏾😋

@sphinxavoid0318 6 ай бұрын

I love the cat in the background when he’s grilling

@AdrianKowak 6 ай бұрын

Need to comment the side dishhh halfway thro the vid....❤❤❤❤❤❤ looks soooo amazing

@radityopradana8555 7 ай бұрын

Awesome video guga, would love to try these methods, cheers from Indonesia. While on that, i advise you to also try the seasoning package of indomie mie goreng with steak. It is truly a pinnacle of msg and flavor for all of us here

@HarrysDogmalaysia 7 ай бұрын

in malaysia or somewhere, we call it "golden mushroom" the long and stringy mushroom

@willa1975 4 ай бұрын

My local butcher shop in Seattle sells beef garum, basically fish sauce except made with beef. I have seen it available for purchase online. I would love to see you do a steak experiment with it.

@benh554 7 ай бұрын

the monkey for Angel analyzing face was awesome

@chrishart9373 7 ай бұрын

Hey guga i was watching the offset smoker video and i would love to see you make some wagu sausage brat

@OguraToasty 7 ай бұрын

Kombu is a gentler flavor, which you normally soak in water or add to a pot to extract over an hour, so it needs plenty of moisture. Wonder if blending it with water into a paste could have worked better.

@ahhason 7 ай бұрын

@Guga Foods, Could you please do a dry age or marinate experience using french onion soup mix?

@BigE9000 7 ай бұрын

Daaang, I thought Guga was dumping out a bag of kush at the beginning. Thought this channel was taking a completely different turn for a moment.. that's one way to make something taste amazing!

@phyph286 7 ай бұрын

The editor is great!

@shreyadatta8741 7 ай бұрын

Guga and his whole crew are adorable.

@jonbuettner270 7 ай бұрын

You need to have an end of the year top 5 best experimental rubs on steak that you would use day in and day out.

@Wolfcraft-Camping 7 ай бұрын

Hey, I sent away today for your book! Should be here Monday or Tuesday, according to the jungle web site. Between you and Max Miller, I'm going to have half of my favorite channels' cookbooks. Next will be from Townsends and Joshua Weissman. Oh! Dude, try and get Max Miller to do a guest spot on your channel! Historical recipes combined with your special magic...ought to be priceless!

@taftoc7288 5 ай бұрын

This is the best side dish i'v seen so far

@cameronconklin7222 7 ай бұрын

Amazing video 💯🔥

@lizziewayte456 4 ай бұрын

I love the cat in the background… “steak for me, yes?” 😂

@richardorta8960 7 ай бұрын

Try aging steak in jello! Your flavor preference, just wanna see it done and see how it goes. Mix the jello and set it in it like fruit.

@Makaibros 7 ай бұрын

i was really hoping to see him combine 3 together, it would be funny

@elpinchenegro3144 7 ай бұрын

You're amazing!!!!!

@richki.24 7 ай бұрын

looks soo good ....

@jboogie8819 7 ай бұрын

I want to see more of the Guga Cat! The cat could sit in on some reviews if Leo or Angel aren't available.

@kizzariojb8086 7 ай бұрын

Maybe try the Kombou in a Souvide style to get more flavor penetration, also maybe leave your MSG mix for longer to see if it penetrates more

@__w__o__w__ 7 ай бұрын

that side dish is a work of art.

@RolandSchlosser 7 ай бұрын

The side dish deserved an entire video on it's own damn XD

@Dragon-of-Insanity-Town 6 ай бұрын

5:37 The music paired with the slow-mo Cat makes for an intense scene

@Kambo777 3 ай бұрын

Hey guga, your vids inspired me, too inspire you: i got this idea wich i see only you delivering the best piece, ever tought about a steak in salt crust(like seabass) and then a la gravad lax bury it deep in between the mycelium deep in the ground and age it for the time of ypur expertise.