Exactly

No finding his body haunted the poor woman because she had no closure on top of the murder of her son.

One of the saddest parts is that the mother of Keith used to go looking for him on the moors most days. She never found him and died almost 10 years ago. The sick bastards didn’t even have the decency to tell a mother where her dead child was buried. Truly heartbreaking... truly evil.

I was born a few yrs after in 1969 and yes i agree, it's very disturbing.

I still get the chills everytime with this case

I do believe demons walk among us

Still feels raw and I wasn't born when it came happened.

Agreed. Very poor language to use to describe that evil bastard.

Yeah but the words iconic and icon are heavily misused in today's Society.

Or maybe its like find a needle in a hay stack

It's said that the ground shifts over time.

The reason why (As I believe)is because Ian, nor Myra, even had anything to do with Keith. They only said that they did. Ian never revealed where the body was, because he never knew.

Abbie Hazel Florence Hunter he took one picture and destroyed it due to the lack of detail in it. He didn’t like the photo so he put it in the fire with the clothes he wore. It’s in a book that was written by a man who interviewed him over many years

Shaun Taylor problem is when a body is buried underground in a huge space the remains can move from when he left them decades later. So they have to dig up the whole field to find them plus council wouldn’t pay that sucks feel so bad. For his mother she died knowing her son would never be found

I would have thought they would have been able to scan the ground for bones (obviously there would be nothing else left by now)?

That's puzzled me too throughout the years.

💯🙏🇬🇧

OJ Simpson too, in his pathetic book '(If) I Did It'.

Not really. If a psycho met another psycho, it usually ends in a fight. They are too self centered to get along unless they knew each other since childhood

Ted DID speak on his victims. However, NO SERIAL killer reviles all. That's something they keep. Their possession.

I thought the same thing

22:30 it looks just like him but I don’t think that’s him.

Why did he listen to it? What was the purpose can I ask? Just intrigued that’s all.

@@thetoad7367 reviewing evidence. They need official witnesses for these kinds of things. Sadly it traumitized all of them

@@jamesroad316 I don't think I can even imagine how horrible that would have been And I've seen people die From sickness

That would be the saddest thing to ever hear. One doesn’t come back from something like that. Can never forget it or put it out of one’s mind. I hope I never have to hear such things

That’s one of the most horrible things to e

Seriously? wtaf

@@joannaedssay5988 Myra Hindley had supporters who targeted Ann West (Lesley Ann Downey's mother) by vandalizing Lesley's grave. They even threatened to dig the body up and bury it back on the moors. Truly evil and vile.

@@qwertasdcfghjklmo24z I'm speechless, fcuking hell. That's horrible, evil and that's being polite! Who where these people? (I didnt know this, thankyou for telling me)

@@joannaedssay5988 They were people who believed Hindley was innocent and wanted her released. Ann West (God rest her) fought tooth and nail to keep Hindley behind bars where she belongs and Hindley's supporters didn't like that,

@@qwertasdcfghjklmo24z wow, I knew she had supporters but not to that extent, that's horrific. Where any of these people held accountable?

Take me to the moors

Oh Manchester, so much to answer for.

@ibrahimabdullah6865 and John you will never be a man....................Lesley and your pretty white beeds

I'm sure there's lots of undiscovered bodies in the moors going back ages

@@69Jackjones69 very true I think you are right.

Passed it a thousand times poor winni a Keith a his brother we had a party in the pub when hindly died glad that scum was force fed a made to stay alive a suffer

It’s bleak and eerie

@@BlowinFree it is…but it’s beautiful in its bleakness

Yes, because if they were human, then we would have to loom deep within our own psyche, right?

Sorry to inform you, they were human.

@@LukeSkywalker-io2bhSo you’re saying you’re a sick & twisted pe do too?

@@chekhov1860You know exactly what they meant.

Which one is your Grandad?

@@zaraalbright8094 the sheep at 11:07

@@zaraalbright8094 Eric marsden and Jean is my nana

Fkn mental.

i seen something years ago that brady procured children for high and mighties

Where did you get this info? The gov was probably a lesbo, that's why. They're all sickos, guards included. Large fraternity.

If she'd repented, she'd have told Keith Bennet's mother were he was. Despicable woman.

@@ruthd7274she’s where she belongs…

Literally was just going to say the same! Came down to money prob!

certainly not in the time line would he be considered good looking but back then literally all i see when i look see pictures of him is a monster

He isn't hideous either though but still wouldn't have mattered.

He's a right deformed looking Basta

To be fair he did look good looking but his eyes were dead and cold like nothing was there. But his image was all show anyway he wanted to look like that so people would trust him

@@sorayawhetung8661 tbh you only saying this because you found out he was a child killer otherwise am guessing you probably agree. But yeah he's eyes are so dead and nothing is there but a cold shiver

And you can bet there’s at least two or three active serial killers going about their horrific crimes right now...the number of active serial killers were have currently in the USA is seriously frightening

@@cindyinnew yeah but that's the US, they're all fucking weirdos

Not to forget, Dennis Nilson

Colin Ireland, Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr, Peter Tobin/Bible John smh

@@venmxshadows He was on the management staff at my local job centre.

He is now dead and they put his ashes into a salt urn and threw them into the sea.

Like most people at the time I said he should have been hung but now I think differently. If he'd been hung his suffering would have been over quickly. Better that he spent his life in jail knowing that this was as good as his life was ever going to get any better it's good to know that he must have spent the rest of his life in misery without hope

Floyd1504 I’m tough, I know what Ian did. I can handle it.

can I ask what has made you decide to write a book on him? so much has already been covered what new do you think you can bring to the conversation?

@@candicesimmons3630 Yes I am wondering about that too. Although most books have been on Myra or the couple together rather than on Ian himself. The Keightley book is ridiculous and is based on what Ian wanted him to know.

What is your take on his childhood?

@@Oksana7305 He had an okay childhood, nothing hugely out of the ordinary. Teenage years and after puberty, thats where it began to go wrong.

An icon is actually a religious painting.

@@robert3987 - yes, as referenced in my comment - 'of the nature of an icon'

@@anthonymcnamara4002Good call. Infamous would be far more appropriate, let alone far stronger words!

Shame Hell doesn't exist, isn't it? RIP Myra

@@catraoinekelly2879 Wasn't Ian cremated? So, I think the worms and insects would have a bit of a trek to get to him... although maybe fish like to eat cremated serial killers?

@@JustAnOrdinarySimmer theres proof that our souls go somewhere when we die....question is where?

@Jordan Belfort in all seriousness what proof are you talking about?

So, some god was okay with their torture also? You're living in fantasy land.

The same left wing “do gooders” who have destroyed this country are the same as the ones who campaigned for Hindley.

Ì hope they never make a movie with actors playing Myra and Ian

There may have been more, I think

Little girl screaming fir her mom and for them to stop but really high pitched Little girl screaming

​@ferguson8143 don't know how you know that. The tape has never been played.Anywhere. Although there are transcripts. Reading them is suffiently awful.

its on wikipedia for anyone to listen too !

manson never murdered any1 brady did...

Chelle’s World yeah I know. I just said he gave me a Manson vibe.

Manson was not evil

John was my Great Grandmother’s son. She is sadly dead now but she continued her life with her other children and grandchildren. She never got over losing John and her house was full of his pictures, just as my Nanna’s (john’s sister) house is now, which is understandable. But she was the most lovely woman and John’s brother didn’t stop fighting to keep the two in prison until the day he died.

Dig up Shiny brook, he is there.

I hear you. I had thought about this on several occasions. The search for Keith is based on the accounts of Myra Hindley and one psychopathic sadist Ian Brady, known for deriving pleasure from the suffering of others. The fact that three children were found on the moor (excluding Edward Evans) does not in my opinion mean that Keith is there. Brady was all about control and rebeling against authority. Brady's psychiatrist said, "Final control is the possession of the body." I know, you don't know, you want to know and I'm not going to tell you." We can surmise Brady deriving enormous pleasure upon learning that the authorities were searching the moors for a body that he knew was never there to begin with. That being said, when Brady visited the moor in 1987 to "help"with the search for Pauline Reade and Keith Bennett, I believe the psychiatrists viewpoint that he checked the grave site without "letting-on". There are also a number of photos of Hindley and Brady together in scenic locations, to my knowledge not on Saddleworth Moor. One particular photo is taken with the camera positioned on the ground with blades of grass in the foreground. We know how much Brady liked to take photographs, did the police ever consider that the camera on the ground might mark the position of a grave?

Maybe but there's way of saying it. Think about that poor Mother Winnie how would anyone of been able to tell her that? "Oh sorry Winnie love your son isn't here after all"it would've broken her. Although she was broken but you know what i mean

They are digging there as I type this. I hope they find him and give the people who need it some closure.

@@andrewlarking7492 could just be sheep findings like last time

There is but its illegal now and shit stains like Brady and Hindley could've sued for human rights violation, what a joke. I'm sure Leslie-Ann's Mum and Step-Dad did hear the tape once :(

I don't know think Ian would've played master manipulative games tbh

I’d start stripping away their skin layer by layer and if they didn’t talk they’d just end up being skinless tissue and ligaments whilst still alive. I’ve got my own psychotic methods of torture for people like Ian Brady 🤬

Also i belive although he got to live as a patient rather than in a cell to rot but i actually believe that people who do this deserve to rot in jail and not get the death penalty but i get why people say they should have been hung

Because of the idiot liberals. The type of people who care more for the criminal than the victims.

No, my question 1. Why ignore a primary witness to a double serial killer investivation potential murder/burial and evidence Brady was driving. 2. Who was responsible for that incompetence? 3. Knowing dead children are buried on that moor, why did the authorities dig it up and destroy evidence.

Me too

Me three 😮 poor man

He also looks like Nick Cotton from Eastenders

Me too😮

& me

He literally wet himself at the thought of meeting the krays

In a country that has produced excellence, we still have pointless jobs for some people.

dr Alan Keightley wrote a book about Brady and his life (from childhood until death) I think? Might be worth a read?

@@j.kennedy7267 Ooh! Thanks very much.

@@j.kennedy7267 Thanks so much! Will hunt it up

He voted for tony blair another Scottish physopath

He didn’t eat anyway, he spent years being fed through a tube because he refused to eat. A psychopath in prison completely falls apart because he’s no longer in control of anything whereas in the outside he can control EVERYTHING about his own life and others, I don’t think anything apart from torture could of got it out of him

He loved n*zis and wanted everyone to look like what h1tler wanted. He made Hindly dress Aryan and he wasn’t phased by the h*locoust. He was also a bad kid and grew up in the slums. As well he was diagnosed as a psychopath and psychopath's physical cannot feel empathy

It’s to avoid being used in future court or police cases, as it’s not admissions. That’s why he called it hypothetical theorising or whatever he said.

No, it's because he was a coward. Nothing to do with being prosecuted. Missing the point.

Which book?

@@MarieCassidy-zd8sc The Gates of Janus

In the fish case i couldn't believe the couple whose son moved some things for fish let him take their daughter away on the belief he was taking her to a birthday party. They hardly knew him.

Why would he lie it’s my grandfather and maybe he didn’t think anything off it and if you saw something that you wasn’t sure off at the time go and tell someone🤷🏻‍♀️when he thought it was right he spoke up

@jaiaskey1428 because even the average person would hear the words moors and if they visit the moors it would have them thinking about it. Not to mention this case was the first to be so groundbreaking that it required press briefings from the police. The mugshots were on the front pages of every newspaper in the UK. So for him to forget this until all these years later (when every detail has been covered in books, documentaries, etc) I'm highly suspicious. Myra and Ian mentioned almost being caught by a police officer while Ian was burying a body on the moors. Myra lied about drying out her spark plugs. Had they been interrupted or seen by your grandfather while burying another body they'd have mentioned it as they did the police incident. It sounds like this documentary needed something unheard of and were able to find someone, anyone, who ever saw a couple at the Moors in the 60s so they could say that they saw Ian and Myra burying a body. Your grandfather claims to have such a good memory that he matched their faces... 30 years later. Sorry not buying it.

A medium? You must be joking. 😂

​@@MontyCantsin5Unbelievable isn't it?

@@LukeSkywalker-io2bh: It is very sad that people believe in fraudulent nonsense like mediums, yes.