In no way would I say Mike Bickle was a good storyteller, except in the sense that he told stories, as in lies. Mike was difficult for me to listen to, because I actually saw through it. No one is more boring than when they are lying. When I hear the term "Prophetic History" I hear fingernails on chalkboards. There is no prophetic history of IHOP! Now, I will say there is a "False Prophetic History." IHOP, or any other church, should NEVER, EVER, be founded on Prophetic anything. The church is founded on CHRIST, and the CROSS!!!

You are younger than our children, hear me out please. We are so encouraged by the balanced and solid advice/council you give. You are wise beyond your years, God Bless You, keep it up please.

Many ministry roads lead back to Branham. The truth to be found here will be difficult for the church to swallow. Lk 8:17 - “For nothing is secret, that shall not be made manifest; neither any thing hid, that shall not be known and come abroad.” It’s time. God is cleaning house.

I would love to see you interview John Collins with Leaving the Message. He has done so much work with uncovering the false prophecies of William Branham, and how he changed them over the years. Same kind of a story - there is a pattern here. Also, there is a direct line from Paul Cain to Mike Bickle, and he has a lot of info on that, too. Love your channel! I have come out of the hyper charismatic movement over the last few years. Have a lot of "mom guilt" because I sent my son to IHO(P for a six month internship before he went to college. He is not walking with the Lord now, he says he is an atheist. I wish I had guarded my doctrine closer, just like you mentioned in the video. How we lead our families and the discernment we do or do not exercise affects multiple generations. Keep up the good work!

Misty started posting on Instagram again a couple days ago and it’s extremely bizarre. The amount of denial is pretty staggering.

As I have said before bickle is a manipulative bulling narcissist who is extremely clever don’t be hard on yourself or any of you and his teachings were absolutely off mostly but of course some correct nobody listens to totally false teachings learn from this and make sure you know your Bible well enough to not be deceived again xxxx

I thought this was good Blaise. Balance…..don’t despise ….but test all things. Good word. Thanks for sharing.

Thanks so much for not becoming so frustrated that you've tossed out the concept of prophecy and dreams in general. I have many dreams that come to pass in my own life. Most of them are just for me. And most of them are just about what's going on in my life. Every once in awhile I'll have one that's for somebody else and I'll text them and say it might just be nothing, but I had this dream. Often what I dreamed about is directly relevant to what they are experiencing. But it's not really any kind of public platform, nor do I really seek after that, or want anything like that.

@JillCee Jill...About Misty and her 'trauma'. We are each responsible and accountable to God for the decisions we've made in our lives...we are also accountable to those we have failed. Misty was not abducted or forced into her hidden lifestyle. She received a salary or payments for her leadership role. A good part of her 'trauma' is that her hidden life has been publicly exposed - - by God. God's healing begins when we confess our part in the decisions we've made that have lead us away from him. "All have sinned and come short of God's glory".(Romans 3.23). And we are to confess our faults one to another, and pray one for another, that we may be healed. (James 5:16) Many are concerned about Misty and her 'trauma', however, there is no discussion about the hundreds upon hundreds of kids and the adult followers of Mike Bickle and Misty -- who have now left the Lord. How many have completely Fallen Away? due to the IHOPKC leadership's sins that are now out in the open. How many have lost their salvation? ...and we only speak of Misty's 'trauma'?

I’m frustrated because the guy seems to be getting away with his crimes and IHOPKC is still in operation, making millions.

SHAWN BOLZ. Can you please answer our question from last episode about how/when/where he acknowledged that he was data mining?

The Bob Jones prophecy (in late May 1983) that Kansas City was entering a 3-month drought that would be broken on August 23, which would be a sign of God's promise that the spiritual drought would (at some point) be broken, and revival would come. This was also disproven by the facts. Mike originally told this story in the prophetic history that there was a complete lack of rain in KC for the months of June, July, and August, until the specific day Jones prophesied, on which date there came a massive downpour around 6 pm, as they were arriving for evening prayer meeting, and that the rain lasted for hours. [See "Prophetic History 2" taped message from Spring 1986, and "Overview of our Prophetic History" taped message from May 1989.] Ernie Gruen pointed out in his 1990 report that this claim did not line up with the weather data from that time period. June actually had above-average rainfall; July was a month of drought, as was August. On August 23, at 8 in the MORNING, there was a brief rain shower (a fraction of an inch), which was in no way considered a drought-breaker. The drought continued through September. When Mike published his book, Growing in the Prophetic, in 1995, he altered the story to more closely match the weather data. He now claimed Bob Jones prophesied 3 months of drought, with rain on August 23, 1983. He goes on to say that the heavens closed at the end of June, with little or no rain in July and the first 3 weeks of August; then, just before evening service began on August 23, a tremendous downpour came for almost an hour. The drought continued the next day, and for 5 more weeks, fulfilling the prophecy of 3 months of drought (pp. 53-56). At some point, he added a "Cover Your A--" to the narrative. In a recounting of the story Bickle posted to his uTube channel (Mike Bickle Official) on 8/11/22 (titled Session 3: The Early Days and the Solemn Assembly in May 1983), he claims that it was a downpour so heavy that people couldn't get out of their cars to come inside for the 7:00 p.m. meeting (not 6:00 pm, as he originally told). Around the 58:00 mark, he says that what they didn't know in 1983 was that there was several minutes of downpour just before the meeting, and another several minutes of downpour after the meeting, and that they had just assumed it had rained the whole 2 or 3 hours they'd been inside. He elaborated further to claim that in 1986, 3 years after the event, they were retelling the story in a meeting, and began talking amongst themselves and questioning, "Exactly how much did it rain?" and decided to check; "So we found out later it didn't rain that much and so i corrected that publicly and so i just wanted to say that that i did declare it one time because just in the enthusiasm of it because i talked to some folks i went to our leaders afterwards like some year a couple years later i go let's let's actually do some heavy fact checking find out all the dates and everything and since that time i recorrected that i just feel like it's important if you say something wrong you need to correct it." Apparently he was still not aware that the weather data documented that the smattering of rain that came on August 23 was at 8:00 a.m., not in the evening. And apparently, in claiming to have corrected the rainfall amount after checking the facts in 1986, he forgot that he's on tape in 1989, still claiming that it was 3 to 4 inches of rain; and that he wrote in his book in 1995 that it was "a tremendous downpour of rain lasting almost an hour". And he totally ignores that the 3-month drought period was changed from "late May to August 23" to "starting July 1 and getting rain on 8/23, but the drought continuing for another 5 weeks, for a total of 3 months", a change that was made AFTER he was caught in the lie by Ernie Gruen in 1990.

Mike is no teacher of the scriptures. The demons believe, and tremble. He, has no fear of God in him. If he did, his life would REFLECT THAT in the secret.

When i heard this story years ago i questioned how many things were based soley on his prophesy circles. When you hear long stories & only cherry picking scriptures to fit their story & not the Word of God in full - R-U-N!!!!! I followed Benny Hinn since my youth. Now i know better. Have descernment in who you listen to. Tests the spirits.

The Bible tells us a lot about false teachers, and a lot about those who are deceived, too. Colossians 2:18 exposes the false humility of those who deceive others, and Romans 16:17 shows us our side of the story in that "the simple" who are deceived are those who do not expect to be deceived because they naively believe others have their best interest in mind. We all have to awaken and get it together. Time is too short to live in deception. Spoken as someone who is working hard to get free from my own wrong beliefs. 😢

Simplicity of devotion to Christ. 2 Corinthians 11:3 Thanks Blaise

I went to Toronto in the late 1990’s and heard Mike Bickel. I couldn’t understand his teaching on the bride. I even bought a book he wrote. I started to read it and gave up. He was not a good teacher, and character matters.

Thank you Blaise. Testing is vital!

Does Mike’s wife not say anything when all of this is coming out? Do you think she has known this over the years?

Im glad you are clarifying that a false teacher MAY teach biblically sound matériels, yet be false because his LIFE is sinful.

fairy tales , what's telling is that he himself said, he hardly believes anything

Far too many so called self appointed people who have the name and use the name of Jesus but they don’t have His Spirit ! They don’t hear the voice of God and do not His will. They don’t know ...

Dude!!!! Balanced. Dang I just feel happy right now. Thank you so much

these are serious psychopaths, the strange thing is that not unlike Hitler, they get huge followings

We should share dreams and visions with those who know us well and know our character and Christian maturity. None of us know the personal lives of people behind platforms or on videos. Those people need to be accountable to their own pastors and elders for their words. Problem is that most of them don't even regularly attend church, and if they do, they are the man at the top who is running everything.

Who else is reading/listening to Jude on repeat? 😂 😭

And don’t forget there were some really solid teachers there. So when you’re surrounded by those men and women and they’re the ones teaching the classes it’s harder to see the MB drama clearly

The obvious lack of biblical discernment is vast....

I think the more the PH of MB is examined and proven false, the better for everyone who believed him. I appreciate this video.

The stories that we hear impact our lives. I think it is wise to ask where they are leading us. Are they leading us to Jesus Christ, our Savior who loves us and died for our sins? Are they leading us to the Word? Or are the stories captivating us and causing us to follow after people and movements that pull us away from Christ and the gospel? What message are we hearing?

It’s human nature to want to follow a charismatic leader no matter how absurd or ridiculous they seem. Think of some extreme examples like Hitler, Jim Jones, Joseph Smith. But there’s also many that aren’t as extreme that are just as dangerous because they seem so normal. There’s only 1 person we could fully trust to lead us and that was Jesus. Look to the Bible and the historical views of interpretations. The Bible is so important for so many reasons. It’s why false prophets abuse it so much because it carries so much authority.

Excellent processing. I'm very grateful, Blaise.

Thank you, brother Blaise!

Christians don't need an augmented prophetic history. We "have a more sure word of prophecy" from Genesis through Revelation!!! Also Acts 17:31 says we can't hasten the day of the Lord, "He has FIXED a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness by that Man whom He hath ordained."

Blaise, in largest part, this is an excellent, balanced presentation. One exception: Having been active at KCF/MCF during the 80's, I came to know Bob Jones to be a true man of God who was used mightily in my life and in others' lives. It deeply grieves me to hear the consensus narrative today that continues to group him with Mike Bickle and Paul Cain. Despite Bob's documented moral failure in the 90's, the Bob I knew deserves a better and more accurate remembrance than that. I think most who knew him back then would agree with my assessment.

On time stamp 15:45 regarding Mike’s teachings. Mike distorted the scriptures. A dead clock is right twice in a 24/ hour period. So, yes, sure, Mike could have said some things right. But taught false doctrine. The whole movement was false. God allows it to test the heart of His people. “IF A prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder he foretells to you comes to pass, and if he says, Let us go after other gods-gods you have not known-and let us serve them, You shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your [mind and] heart and with your entire being. You shall walk after the Lord your God and [reverently] fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice, and you shall serve Him and cling to Him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has talked rebellion and turning away from the Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage; that man has tried to draw you aside from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So shall you put the evil away from your midst. If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own life entices you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods-gods you have not known, you nor your fathers, Of the gods of the peoples who are round about you, near you or far away from you, from one end of the earth to the other- You shall not give consent to him or listen to him; nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him. But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hands of all the people.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬-‭9‬ ‭AMPC‬‬ Moses had cautioned against the peril that might arise from the Canaanites. Here he cautions against the rise of idolatry among themselves. It is needful for us to be well acquainted with the truths and precepts of the Bible; for we may expect to be proved by temptations of evil under the appearance of good, of error in the guise of truth; nor can any thing rightly oppose such temptations, but the plain, express testimony of God's word to the contrary. And it would be a proof of sincere affection for God, that, notwithstanding specious pretences, they should not be wrought upon the forsake God, and follow other gods to serve them. God allows testing, trying of the heart to see if we look to ourselves/others as gods or HIM, as the Author of His commandments!

Blaise, let me share a life lesson from nearly five decades in, among, and alongside the Pentecostal/Charismatic movements: Bigger than life personalities are why we must always, always return to the Bible as the compass and dividing line (2 Tim 3:16). "That dusty old book" is the only unchanging standard that reveals God's true nature and character. Derek Prince made his own mistakes over the years (of which he later repented) but he was 100% on the mark regarding the deception of KCF/KCP... they left the God of the Bible behind and began worshiping themselves.

I’m really enjoying your podcasts and it’s helping bring immense healing and courage as I speak up as the Lord is asking me to about things that I’ve experienced in ministry.

Thanks again Blaise. Insightful, edifying. God bless.

Thank you, Blaise.

I will always believe that the gifts of the Spirit are for today as I have yet to encounter a convincing argument for cessationism. But all this stuff with ihop, Benny hinn, and now discovering so much about William Branham and many other early Pentecostal leaders from the KZfaq channel Leaving the Message has solidified my decision to pay no attention to people spouting grandiose visions and prophecies and visits with Jesus and angels and the like. It's time to realize that charismatic Christianity is littered with scammers and tellers of tall tales who have no conscience and are willing to take advantage of charismatics' unhealthy thirst for signs and wonders, which almost invariably leads to gullibility and lack of good judgment. Our host put it in a really insightful way - it's a love of drama.

The Podcast isn't anywhere near as visually appealing today. I can't put my finger on why. Anybody?

There is a lot of wisdom in here. I appreciate what you guys do.

Those who have authority in Christ would be rebuking these people and casting out the false spirit in them, because it ain’t the Holy Spirit they posses.

Angel Emma can't help them

Yes I 💯 agree on Blaise's teaching being balenced and truthful.

Good video with the exception of Bob Jones statements. Not only did Bob repent quickly of one incident, but also transparently taught others how to avoid the deception that caused him to sin. Most of his life Bob walked in holiness close to the Lord.

We've been to IHOPseveral times over the last 9 yrs. In fact we almost moved there. There was one strange warning that I had when we were attending a conference in K.C. It was before Mike had 24 hr prayer. But before the event started, Mike was on stange as people were getting ready to start. Misty, who I believe, was a teenager then, came out on stage to, seemingly, ask Mike something. He answered, and as she turned around to leave, Mike patted her on the shoulder and had a gross grin on his face. I thought, oh God please, no. That's sick, oh it can't be. I looked around , no one else seen anything wrong. I thought I was terrible for thinking that that pat on the back was inappropriate. It turns out that something was wrong, and I do believe that Misty was, and has been for a long time, a victim. One other thing, please be careful how much you go back into these 'minister's and report them, and their issues past, or present issues. The Lord has used some of these minister's to bring healing, salvation, peace, interesting in reading the word, etc. I myself have been healed, delivered, etc. In some of these different meetings Its Holy Spirit that shows up when we are worshipping Him, singing His Praises. Be careful that you don't cause people to begin to think that their healings are now questionable. I had something that I was going to die in 3, to 5 yrs. I started to receive magazines from Kenneth Copeland about healing and faith.,we devoured those truths. Tumor started to shrink, then I was in a morning star conference and Bob Jones prayed for me. I was totally healed. I was given 3 to 5 yrs to live in 91' on the 3rd year I had my son, on the 5th I had my daughter. Be careful how much you dig up peoples pasts, when they may have been in wrong thinking at different times. There is no question that some of these guys were in the wrong sometime, and some changed the way that they thought. Be careful, that you don't cause some to fall because of all the faults, etc..that you are bring up.

I am firmly convicted that the cannon of revelation, in this new covenant age, is closed, and has been for almost 2,000 years. The 20th/21st century Church does not suddenly need a new cannon of revelation to add to what's already been revealed. If the NT gift of prophecy exists today, its purpose is not to add to the cannon of revelation. Can we all agree on that? The totality of IHOP's "prophetic history", the prophecies of the Kansas City Prophets, and entire "prophetic" books (The Final Quest by Rick Joyner as one example), IMO, steps waaaay over the line into adding to the cannon of revelation.

Blaze your doing well at explaining the error so many have fallen in to when placing stock in leaders we have not fully prayerfully researched. Directing people toward Christ and family is excellent encouragement. Going back to reaffirming the basics is getting back to firm foundation with out all the boulders to trip over. I firmly believe God is asking people to disconnect from false ministries and return to the simplicity of Life and the biblical leading of family and healthy involvement in community.

I love true prophecy. I love dreams and visions. I wasn’t aware of any Mike Bickle prophecies and I couldn’t get in to his teachings when I watched a bit for a couple. The prayer room was anointed at times and I got a lot out of that online some years back. 2010?-2014/15

Thank you so very much for sharing such wisdom and truth in this matter!!! I appreciate how you are guiding people in a Biblical way through all this confusion and mess. People need to hear the Biblical way of handling situations like this! It brings much clarity and truth which is so healing to the heart!! We are ALL affected by this situation ….. even from a distance! The truth set us ALL free!!! Thank you for your part in setting the captives free!! ❤

Prayed for you the last couple days in my prayers. Thankful to have come to your videos after the ihop fall. Lots of blood of Jesus upon everyone affected, the history, and futures in risen new life. Blessings in Christ bro

Even if Mike's stewardship of the prophetic history was twisted, the underlying biblical narrative is true. Every nation will call Jesus Lord, the spirit will be poured out on all flesh, the kingdom will reap in a big harvest, the church will make herself ready for the wedding supper of the lamb, the followers of Jesus will do greater works than these.

Thank you for your honesty. The word of God is Truth. Appreciate your podcasts.

If we are not being accused of giving ppl a license to sin we have given the wrong gospel. Even Paul was accused of this very thing. Should we continue in sin that GRACE my abound of course not but living in the assurance of the blood of christ who has washed away all my sin that I may be presented to the father without spot or wrinkle

My dad was pronounced brain dead on August 11 but was not removed from life support until the 14th.

You mean “the so-called prophetic history”!

Well done! Hard to hear, but lots of good information.

So I have to wonder if another KC prophet...JPJ... And his claims to being an 11 the hour prophet, being carried in his mother's womb for 11 months, etc... Is this fabricated also? Hmmm...

Uh, these men were "tested" a long time ago, and no one listened. God does not speak outside of His Word. Period.

There is a pattern that those who go off Scripturally go off morally but God is merciful and you can learn despite this but when you find out GO because they are no longer above reproach and can’t return to ministry on repentance to a fellowship of course and that is the goal

Thank you guys for being a trusted source in covering this. I’ve been listening during the beginning and appreciate you and your wife exposing this evil, and caring for the victims in this. 🙏🏻 …Side note: I think you guys should both do videos but do them separate. Together it’s a bit awkward because I think you guys are both talkers and are wanting to say a lot. I would enjoy listening to you both. Just a thought. Blessings to you both! 😊

Lol, maybe it was Mike Bickel himself who told you to listen to his sermons on intimacy! It’s hard to believe someone else would tell you to listen to any of his sermons as of now.

Great that you touched on this question of what is a false teacher/prophet. And its a great verse in reference to that, the Timothy one. However it's still not quite clear to me what to make out of it. Ok, its both, life and doctrine. Does that mean, that if one is off, the other is automatically too? How would it? certainly it should be a sign to closey examine the other part, too, and be even more sceptical. But, as to MB and IHOP (and same questions could be about others too of course): Could it still be that God has been speaking or these people heard/saw something from him that is actually true, and they just messed it up? Could it be kind of a mixture? Should we disregard ALL of their teachings and prohecies altogether because of their failed lives? Actually similar question we need to ask, it seems, about parts of or even maybe the whole "charismatic movement" (depends maybe on how thats defined): with so many of the big influencing figuers being questionable, like W. Branham, and so much of charismatic Christianity being influenced by them - how to sort that out? You could even end up with the question whether it's all fake and wrong from the core - and you wouöd end up exactly with those extrem anti-charismatic people who will dispise prophecy and all the gifts altogether.

Thank you.

Kings College and Seminary (founded by Pastor Jack Hayford) and The Master's University (founded by John MacArthur) did not name these schools after themselves. I believe "Oral Roberts University" and "Bob Jones University" are in deep Biblical error. Pride of mere men naming schools after themselves.

These so called pillars in the church are all in the same boat if you ask me William Branham, John Calvin, Martian Luther, and more. Apostle Paul has told us not to say we are of this person or that person. Yet that church is doing that very thing!

As a native of KC Bickles teaching, it never got me it was just enough truth with a bunch of blaw blaw time filling word especially his prophetic teaching im not talking about prophetic history stories. When he refences daniel or Rev He was scaterd and breaf, i could not make a connection as to how he was implying that for todays living. So for that i dont get why people thought he was so great outside his understanding that he is preparing the church for the return of Christ after they go through the tribulation. I never had any drawing to ihopkc. All know as a kid in the 80s a bunch of people stoped going to their church to go to KC Fellowship. My understanding was thats how he grew his ministry taking people out of other churches. I know a number of elderly people now that told me back in 80s when mike came to their chruch all kinds of red flags went up . He was one of those guys back then he was fully embrased or fully rejected nothing in-between.

In Timothy was he even talking about new prophecies to test or from the prophets already spoken in the OT that should be tested in the Good News they were hearing?

I am not a fan of Mike Bickle, nor have I ever been. But at the same time, we have a Biblical standard regarding what to believe. Here is what Jesus said about some religious hypocrites, and I will go with this as my standard. I wish there would be more use of scripture in your otherwise very helpful broadcasts. Matthew 24:3-4 "So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them. For they do not practice what they preach." And in Acts 17:11 it says, "Now the Berean Jews were of more noble character than those in Thessalonica, for they received the message with great eagerness and examined the Scriptures every day to see if what Paul said was true." We are all called to test EVERYTHING we hear, against scripture, period. If our life and character is great, as it should be, that is not enough. We also need to "rightly divide the word of truth". "Let there not be many teachers among you, for unto them is the greater condemnation. " All of us need to watch our lives and doctrine, as you said.

This might not apply to this situation, and I am not defending Mike Bickle at all , But I was present a few months ago at a hospice death and when the person dies vs when the nurse comes into the room to record it could be different, they don’t record what we tell them , like we witnesses him die at this time, they record the time they arrive there.. he died near midnight so it could even be considered a different day by then… I don’t know if it’s like that everywhere

Everything is wishy washy with them. They use God’s scripture to justify anything they do. Yet they don’t follow the law or the Spirit of the law

Please study the Book of Jeremiah to see the differences between false and true prophets. Yes, it’s OT but Jeremiah (called the weeping prophet) was the ONLY prophet who was speaking truth The other prophets prophesied “smooth things” according to scripture Jeremiah warned to repent or be taken captive I struggled with knowing good decent people in different factions of the prophetic churches who are truly deceived themselves My answer came in Jeremiah where the false prophets are described as DECEIVED AND DECEIVING OTHERS Sadly my friends were false prophets !!! I’m a false movement Balsam was actually a prophet of God but was offered a bribe Some say he misused his gifting but NO HE DID NOT fit when he tried to speak curses on Isra he was FORBIDDEN to do do by God!!!! He then resorted to trickery

Keep preaching holiness. No one preaches NO SINNING as born again souls. Even when the scripture clearly tell us the whole purpose of Christ's coming and resurrection is to free us from ongoing sining be the active life of the HOLY SPIRIT in our penitent hearts: 1John 5:18 We know that whosoever is borne of God sins not! JOHN 8:11 ...go and sin no more Roman's 6:1-2 What should we continue in sin that grace may abound? GOD FORBID! How shall we who are dead to sin live any longer there in. Now cross reference these verses to see how many time the New Testament talks about being free from sin. This is a lost or ever rejected truth that the modern church knows nothing about. And this is why sooooo much sin is being done by those who call themselves after His name...they have never departed from iniquity as 2tim 2:19 says.

Whatever would you do if you didn't have the Bickle controversy to fill your pockets?

What will stand up to the test of truth and God’s Word? What is of eternal significance, reaping and revealing valuable fruit? The truth will set folk free from the carnal pseudo sub Christian teaching. What is genuinely charismatic and spiritual will remain and flourish.

This way of making numbers "prophetic "is hilarious, so in New Zealand, we would say 18th April, not April 18th, so Luke 18 verse 4 says " for a while he refused, but afterward he said to himself "THOUGH I NEITHER FEAR GOD NOR RESPECT MAN....."", now that makes more sense to the so called ministry of these charlatans!

Was he running with Todd Bently ? That guy was insane

The author of the book God’s Generals” it turned out was homosexual. Apparently, he has repented. He is still in ministry.

It’s bad when my guy using a censor button 😢

I never once heard him teach the Bible truthfully. He always had a bogus angle

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What is Mike Bickle doing now?!?!

I'm not saying there is not evidence against the prophetic history. But could there be another explanation for the date discrepancy mentioned for the death? Maybe a mistake by the hospital or maybe the doctor was not in that day? It's so close to the day that I am almost wondering if there's something else going on? 10:13

You mentioned the few who continue to extoll Mike Bickle's teachings, i.e. on intimacy with Christ. Blaise, I think you used the word "mixture." Exactly! It's like there's an unholy soul tie these people have with MB through these teachings. I'd throw every one of them away, shredding them first. At best, clinging to these teachings is unhealthy. But at worst, with all that we now know, it could be....idolatry. If you can't let go, you probably have your answer. 1 Kings 11 says Solomon "clung to his idols in love." God is dealing with this this year especially, I believe, in regards to leaders who have been idolized by man above Him for far too long. ** Edited to say that denial is hard to give up, and coming out of this can be a process, I'm sure. I hope people will disconnect from anything connected to the evil of Mike Bickle asap. He should never be allowed in any sphere of ministry ever again, period. God has high standards for leadership!! The church needs to get its backbone back and stop hiding behind "love" that is not love at all. Let's love God, fear God and care and protect His precious sheep more than protecting and idolizing these wolves in sheep's clothing!!

IDOLITRY.... people just following 'man'

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kzfaq.infoAZDwYHRHp7c?si=65kBSc9Cyu8hgQfC This is the way it’s done… Quick accountability by the leader and the elders who support him.

On time stamp 15:45 regarding Mike’s teachings. Mike distorted the scriptures. A dead clock is right twice in a 24/ hour period. So, yes, sure, Mike could have said some things right. But taught false doctrine. The whole movement was false. God allows it to test the heart of His people. “IF A prophet arises among you, or a dreamer of dreams, and gives you a sign or a wonder, And the sign or the wonder he foretells to you comes to pass, and if he says, Let us go after other gods-gods you have not known-and let us serve them, You shall not listen to the words of that prophet or to that dreamer of dreams. For the Lord your God is testing you to know whether you love the Lord your God with all your [mind and] heart and with your entire being. You shall walk after the Lord your God and [reverently] fear Him, and keep His commandments and obey His voice, and you shall serve Him and cling to Him. But that prophet or that dreamer of dreams shall be put to death, because he has talked rebellion and turning away from the Lord your God, Who brought you out of the land of Egypt and redeemed you out of the house of bondage; that man has tried to draw you aside from the way in which the Lord your God commanded you to walk. So shall you put the evil away from your midst. If your brother, the son of your mother, or your son or daughter, or the wife of your bosom, or your friend who is as your own life entices you secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods-gods you have not known, you nor your fathers, Of the gods of the peoples who are round about you, near you or far away from you, from one end of the earth to the other- You shall not give consent to him or listen to him; nor shall your eye pity him, nor shall you spare him or conceal him. But you shall surely kill him; your hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hands of all the people.” ‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭13‬:‭1‬-‭9‬ ‭AMPC‬‬ Moses had cautioned against the peril that might arise from the Canaanites. Here he cautions against the rise of idolatry among themselves. It is needful for us to be well acquainted with the truths and precepts of the Bible; for we may expect to be proved by temptations of evil under the appearance of good, of error in the guise of truth; nor can any thing rightly oppose such temptations, but the plain, express testimony of God's word to the contrary. And it would be a proof of sincere affection for God, that, notwithstanding specious pretences, they should not be wrought upon the forsake God, and follow other gods to serve them. God allows testing, trying of the heart to see if we look to ourselves/others as gods or HIM, as the Author of His commandments!