Zak Brueckner ideal.

OMG...me to a T

One of the very reason I love what I do. I love working independently while still have an impact on the whole company.

You made me realize that I feel the same way, thank you for your comment :)

Literally what I have been saying my entire life.

Thanks, but I like to hear FJ share his thoughts and ideas.

Thanks! This is helpful for when you want to know what he said but don’t have the time to watch the whole video at the moment!

SO accurate

Mae for me #2 is the most important and #1 the least because I’m very introverted

#2 I hate being micromanaged

yesss

I've also been called "glue" when referring to my leadership style lol, because INFJs tend to be that person who keeps a team together and prevents conflicts, whether they are aware of it or not

I am an infj and my teachers and trainers call me that all my life

Mmhmm

beautiful

Yep, me 👩‍🌾! Thanks!

❤

thank you

This is actually some good advice! Thank you

thank you

Yes!!! Me too!!

And then I drag myself because i feel like I have nothing else to learn

Omg me too!!!!

Yup

The key is to keep developing and keep educating yourself in the job and switch and use your old knowledge in a new setting also NGO’s are good as employer because you do a lot of doing everything !

Wendy F oh my gosh, yes! Or being talked down to. Or feeling misunderstood/invalid in the workplace. There have been so many time we’re I’ve been yelled at for doing something “the wrong way” and I was actually correct

Yes, and especially when it's not really necessary. It's so frustrating

@@ZDoreTyr Yes! Same!!

So true! Huge pet peeve of mine. I need to work independantly. Wind me up and let me go!

Wendy F , Indeed. Micromanaging is a no no!

Thank you!

OMGosh! I’m a Realtor. Nailed it! I’m also a Broker in Charge, so I communicate to others how to be successful in the same ways.

Yes I'm a doctor

Thanks saved time

You are right

omg yes !!! do u have any idea as to why this happens tho lol

While public speaking I've forgotten what I was saying MID-SENTENCE on more than one occasion

It's ok it happens that's how we are😅

@@medhavigupta6146 omg this right here had me laughing so hard... it's so true! The 😂😂😂

Hee hee. I can relate. If it's any consolation, I've recently heard that introverts tend to take longer to think about words than extroverts do. An introvert often needs more time to prepare words and express thoughts in just the right way, and indeed can be very effective communicators, but you need to give us enough time to think these things through. As for me, I've found that I always have a much easier time in writing, because that gives me time to edit thoughts that I've already started to express. That way, I don't need review the thought multiple times inside my head before I can even begin to say it. I've also found that after a lot of practice, I can do public and persuasive speaking effectively, but it's absolutely essential that I have time to prepare at least the main ideas beforehand. Otherwise, it will turn into a lot of rambling that makes a decent amount of sense to me, but most people will not see the overall purpose of what I try to communicate. That's been my experience. Anyway. This is all to say, I think it's normal to struggle with stumbling over words as an INFJ, but it doesn't need to be a crippling weakness, and it's definitely not something to beat ourselves up over.

Kate Rush Same here. It difficult for me to find the right words when speaking out loud. I end up sounding like a fool and I no longer wish to speak aloud.

@Vincent Chachere thank you for giving me out ideas

I end up talking gibberish sometimes and my face gets heated pretty quickly when I receive attention while speaking especially if it's something I care or passionate about or if it's a bit personal to me

Same thing. Also biggest problem between my mum and me.

Same here, that is so relatable

Yes...but it's driving me crazy a little because I like to read people to know where I stand with them. I work on a team.

I hated it. Left an IT $28 an hour job for $13 dollar job at a supermarket because I couldn't stand being alone while part of a 'team' all day long.

I wouldn't say as an INFJ I love this working from home WFH. There is a certain amount of interaction, feeling and reading of people we need. I am less exhausted in general WFH though.

​@@sackpersoncool I feel you on this. I went for a year doing almost nothing at my job all while trying to "force" myself to get better. I read like dozens of self help books. I eventually lost my job. No one communicated, even the managers. I felt abandoned and it was hard to feel like there was a purpose. I couldn't deal without the interaction. I am an introvert yes, but giving and getting support is extremely important to me. I don't feel healthy without it.

I hate it just being at home..

If you don't mind me asking. How did you become a massage therapist and how were you able to pay for it?

What makes you think massage therapist is your calling?

@@riskitaufism they're happy, fulfilled, what emotion calls you? hope u find what you're looking for

I majored fashion design, move to Australia and studied nursing, after I studied in bible college 🤣 we Infj always seek what would be the best for us.

Do your hands get tired?

Isabella Y Many people hate it! Being a therapist to your friend is like abusing their boundaries. So I try to not overdo it.

@@katyadade1041 Same. Sometimes being a friend is enough - in our case, where we don't pry too much into their lives.

so hard :

Hahaha, yep!

me too!!!

Malanee Dale yes

Me too

Yes! Also, much of the time I’m explaining something that is obvious to me (the pattern detector), and they’re oblivious and dismissive. SO frustrating. Demoralizing.

Malanee Dale Yup.

So relatable

Kimmberly Bowen 😂❤️😂❤️

Aaah yes!

You misspelled cats!

Definitely a dream job❤️

Yesss

Lol. I always say "I'm not controlling. As long as everything is how I want it I'm totally flexible."😂

😂

lol

uh you don't know my life..meow meow meow....you are killing me :P

Lmao! 🤣

Often thought about teaching but the emotional energy may be too draining + mega organisation + lack of independence

​@@BaltzerBoy same

I'm on my way of becoming a teacher and can't wait . I always wanted to be one but the the urge is stronger than before. Seems fitting

@@BaltzerBoy same. Have tried it for over a decade straight, a couple decades plus training when a college student. Regarding your comments, my thoughts are that although teaching is highly rewarding in multiple aspects, the exhaustion and problems from the points you mentioned is acute at times and might cause some chronic debilitation. Holidays might only be times for recovery. I am on long leave now, unpaid which is stressful not only because of being away from work but particularly because cannot fulfil financial obligations when leave is too long. There are fitting teaching positions out there but they do require much searching; pay is also an issue as pay needs to be sufficient so teachers can avoid the need to work second or third jobs, to be able to save, and to truly refresh from the nonstop attention generally required as a teacher at school and frequent preparation generally required when at home. It is intense.

Been teaching 20 years in UK. Not the job for an infj unless you can ruthlessly ignore the ridiculous requests and expectations from management, in order to not burn yourself out. Definitely dont teach mainstream....it is most likely not what you think it will be.

That is an absolute dream career, wow.

INFJ and hoping to get my Masters in Counselling Psychology! Pretty excited for what the future holds

Thayer Sinclair what i need to do. Lol

Bravo - I couldn’t do it...I’m an empath too and people and their life crap drain me terribly...but I love to try to help others! I’m such an anomaly

Thayer Sinclair, how have you dealt with the difficulties of hearing so many unpleasant feelings and stories all day? I wanted to be a psychologist, but a friend who was discouraged me because I soak up others' emotions.

This is exactly how I feel right now

An INFJs ability to really feel and understand what the other person is going through is the exact skill set that will make you extremely successful and being a psychologist. If you want any ideas on how to deal with those emotions just reply and I'll answer you!

Same!

Same here

Maryknole Montales .. As a 49 year old INFJ-A and intuitive empath that always wanted to be a psychologist or psychiatrist, but didn’t follow into the career path because of that SAME EXACT reason... I can tell you.. It doesn’t matter if you do it professionally or not, as people will ALWAYS find you and you’ll wind up counseling or playing psychologist to them anyhow! It’s funny that so many INFJs see this as a perfect career path yet they’re afraid of dealing with depressed ppl all of the time.. but the truth is.. THEY WILL FIND YOU ANYHOW!! 😂 You all might as well go the path and get paid for it.. I wish I had!

I worked in a job like this and almost killed myself

My job is in a call centre and it's basically micromanaged totalitarianism. I'm nearly dead.

I ran away from those jobs. 😂

More like loud and obnoxious… wish it was quiet

Mm huh and S as in the I in INFJ. Lol yup and loud, and mmmmhuh maybe I am annoying.

it's all in perspective!

I had a great conversation with the bagger at Trader Joe's yesterday. They're always so nice!

But bags are killing the earth, man.

aveuch reusable?

@@aveuch This sounds crazy...but sometimes stores have people that can put stuff in cloth bags. O_O I know!!! What a world!

hehehehehe

I've listened to that part like 4 times now and still laugh out loud. I'm gonna listen to it again! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! meow meow meow!

what helps you as career

I love the library

Can’t believe you raised three children on your own, I’m not even ready to have one yet lol

Same here. I raised two children on my own and worked in IT. I got into Data Center management which I found a good mix of technical and people work. I actually found it easier raising my kids on my own. A husband was just one more job to do LOL and I know I needed to focus on career and children

​@@patriciaeddishaw9244 data center management sounds interesting

I thought the same and I am glad I found this channel. Definitely my favorite one.

yea I know what you mean, during a public speaking my head started shaking like wtf, that has never happened before. I think my entire body was shaking but I was able to stop everything except the head xD

I'm an INFJ and I'm a lawyer and the only aspect of law that makes sense to me has been Human rights, a part of law that actually allows me to help people, every other aspect of law just seems pointless to me, this video has been so helpful I never really understood why until now.

@@wizeller5040 I experience the body shaking Evey single time, which is funny considering the amount of times I have had to speak in public but when it comes down to it, I find my voice and speak very eloquently and I always know what to say to rub on everyone's good side however I have found it harder to communicate properly to family and loved ones because I just don't want to hurt their feelings.

I agree with you, however... I have found in the past that I always find the right words and get in the flow once I start talking. I need to know what I am talking about and cannot prepare by writing a script. And yes, a lifetime of not being heard didn't help. It helps to stay silent until people want to hear what I have to say...

OMG ME ALL OVER.

Hats off brother.. Keep up good work. 👍

What do you enjoy about being a fire fighter? I am trying to change career directions because I have started wondering if extroverted sensing needs to play some sort of part in my career happiness. I guess as a fire fighter, extroverted sensing plays a big part in your career. I hated being a psychologist, I am restless and I do not really have the patience week in week out to be dealing with someone who is making slow or no progress. I was quite surprised by this. Social work would probably have been better because there is more active moving around usually and you can also provide some sort of practical help alongside the abstract but social work salaries are usually really bad.

Very surprised that being a firefighter would make an INFJ happy. It seems like it would be full of surprise and change of directions. No ability to plan out even the next 5 minutes because there might be a call at any time? And it is very hands on "doing" and not so much intuitive. Are you absolutely certain you are an INFJ? Could you perhaps be an ISFP?

@@YAMISOOLD2009 Im an infj and I wanna be a firefighter so bad!! Saving people from danger between the flames sacrificing myself for them breaking doors lifting them Its just so nice but unfortunately I will never be a firefighter for Some reasons that have no solutions

⁠​⁠@@YAMISOOLD2009As an INFJ-A who has also served as a firefighter, I can say it is very fulfilling. I think the public perception is that it’s full of surprises and unpredictable but in reality most days are filled with routine type of calls. Beyond that, it fits our personalities well because we do in fact get to help people. A firefighter is a blue-collar, jacks of all trade, problem solver who gets to use their intuitive abilities to recognize patterns and problems then communicate well with a team to solve those problems, which often leads to helping people. Also, when you’re well-trained, most incidents which seem “surprising” or “chaotic” are able to be organized and approached systematically or creatively, making it a perfect fit for an INFJ.

Did the same thing for 3 years. I couldnt decide because choosing was going to afect my intire existence, witch is not true. We are people, we have familys, pets, friends, a hole community arround us. Having a job its only a part of our lives and It is ok to change paths. We still get home and mind our own bussiness and the PERFECT job isnt gonna change that. Thankfully, I had a person to sit down and Tell me that. I started college just to see what was like and now im almost graduated and decide to become a teacher. I realy love teaching, but i only descovered because i took the risk. Dont pressure yourself or you Will freeze and never decide. I choose to commit on doing a good job, no matter what i do. And Even if you (or i) decide to change latter on, your experience its still important. Just make sure you are making a difference ( and that could be everywhere, not only in a 9 to 5)

I don´t know if that´s still relevant for you, but I once watched a video where the advice was "You are not going to be stuck. Your are stuck NOW!" Your comment reminded me of that.

I’m in the same boat

Same

My sabbatical also turned into 3 years. I used to think my traits were a weakness. Now I recognize them as strengths 💪🏻 INFJs are unicorns 🦄

I'm so freaking sorry. Is there anything creative or anything you could start doing as a living? As a side job at first?

I am a customer service representative in the public sector. It is challenging but I have learnt so much over the years. I am helping people and I am getting better at communicating with rude people. Some kind of personalities can be quite trigger-y. But a lot of time I remind myself some people are angry without speaking with anybody. So I collect stories of unpleasant conversations and write social commentaries for my own amusement. Maybe one day I can turn the writing into a book.

that is rough! hopefully one day you'll be able to look back and see some good lessons you learned from having to work with difficult and angry people all day 😟

I’ve been there sis.

Ooooofffff

Amen! :)

exactly, the attitude is so important!

A nice receptionist can totally switch the tone of someone's day! There are lots of times when I was feeling kinda depressed but some random receptionist treating me nicely suddenly made me feel more confident, which in turn helped me be nicer to others for the rest of the day. ^_^

@@uzaiya8864 Absolutely!!! There are those times of confusion and sorrows in life when first stop is talking to the receptionist and so many of us not knowing How to ask for help or just drowning in our circumstance and a kind hearted and helpful receptionist can make all the difference in the world! Much Peace to you and yours :)

So a consultant

@@samadabbagh1 That would be it. Right? Consultant.

@@galespressos yes, a consultant works under a manager

Agree. A number 2.

@@samadabbagh1 What type of consultant?

Christian Beale oh man do i go into a hole....

I am in therapy during the whole carantine and my therapist is struggling to help me with self-sabotage at remote working. I spiral down to my university self thinking there’s too much work to handle it all well. That’s hard to see yourself protecting yourself from failure by not trying at all.

Sooooo very true. It's painful.

i dropped out of university, couldn't see the purpose in living, and slept for 23 hours a day from the age of 18 til 25. Fell into depression so deep that death would have felt like mercy. But I'm slowing climbing out, although I'm still sleeping like 15 hours a day and extremely unproductive. But I guess being INFJ I'm good at seeing the big picture? With getting into bitcoin in like 2014 (though i had no money, otherwise I'd be a millionaire now, easily), and finding opportunities here and there that allowed me to spend like 15 hours a year on productive work to be able to sustain my rent/food/utilities for the entire year, I managed to... not starve to death (although I almost did at one point.)

@@katyadade1041 That is what I am doing. I am protecting myself from failure by not even playing the game anymore. Luckily I have a wife who does not share the same personality as me. She continues to work to support us. I would be in a real pickle without her!

Glad it was helpful!

I'm OCD and do this.

YES absolutley! lol

Yes me too!

I research the answer to everything on my desktop computer, and only use a phone if I have no other choice. Though I'm an INTJ.

I think it's part of being perfectionistic

Jennifer Holwell oh I studied social work for a while then dropped out. I really couldn’t do it, it literally gave me migraines and I was hospitalised because of it. It would just make me so upset to not be able to help everyone. Everything was so beyond my control. Kudo’s to you for actually being able to deal with Social work as an INFJ ❤️

my coworkers like to have lunch together and talk. I just eat in my car and like listen to nothing- INFJ things

I'm a freelance translator too (not an interpreter though). I wonder how many other INFJs have a career in languages. It's a field that seems to suit our type quite well.

OMG! I just came across this. Another INFJ and freelance translator and interpreter here! 🙋🏽‍♀️ This is amazing.

@@matthewcrossan2177 My minor is in Linguistics/Languages. My major is Child Psych.

I love languages! But unfortunately I'm stuck studying medical laboratories :'( but hopefully I'll be able to do that for a living I LOVE making sense out of disorganized shit

How did you get your job tho? I'm so interested

This is such a wonderful post! Thank you for sharing your story!! And Best of all great things for you!

that's inspiring, Brenda, I hope lots of people see your comment!

Thank you Frank...I hope so too...I also hope they dont see the typo I now see in said comment 🤣

Thanks very much Brenda, for your encouragement! Appreciate that :)

Thanks Brenda, really appreciate you sharing here. That was inspirational indeed ❤️

Coool! (from another nature lady)

that was MATURE .

I am 26 yr old math teacher...I love my job bt hate principal

Spiritual director - sounds really intriguing!

@@jamieleemeyer2993 it's a great vocation. You can find out all about what we do thru SDI: Spiritual Directors International.

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@@BetseyTrotwood 💙

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same here! i burn out when i’m micromanaged and it’s put me off from the corporate world. what you do sounds like my dream work!

Interesting.. I’m also an INFJ who is struggling to find any type of work that is meaningful to me. I’m looking to get into copy editing, do you know anything about how hard that would be to get into? And could you make a living on it?

@@zaram131 If you are skilled with words and focused on details, there are people looking for good copy editors--and I know people who do make a living at it. Check some of the many resources on the Internet.

So what job are you gonna do me to from India I thought as this education system need adjustedment

Hey, I'm an INFJ too, and always had similar thoughts although I believe there is far more development needed

If you don't mind me asking, what is your job title and what education was needed? This is an area I am interested in.

@@jenleber1035 my job title is library aide but I think it's also called library clerk someplaces. The only requirements were be able to read, write and learn instructions and have customer service experience, thats a big part of it. I did have to take a test for the county I work for to get the interview, multiple choice with a focus on alphabetizing, easy logic questions etc. I work in a fairly large library system with multiple branches so it might be different in other places

@@stripeysockey thank you so much for the reply! I really appreciate it!

get out of it ! work hard, your soul is getting crushed in that office

This happened to me as a nurse during the pandemic.🥲

Same here. I've been working in an office, in front of a computer for almost a year now, and I feel awful, it draws all the energy from me, just like Franc said I miss working with people, and helping them, even simply moving around. Not to mention the artificial and heartless structure of the corporation. But now at least I know what I need to look for so maybe, at least in this matter, it wasn't all for nothing :)

How do you get into this career?

Sounds like fun!

could it be we take for granted the obvious and emphasize taking the red pill to wake up?

There’s such a thing as “business culture” or the cultural attitudes of what success values are emphasized. See “Brand Archetypes”. (www.thehartford.com/business-insurance/strategy/brand-archetypes/choosing-brand-archetype) From reading the comments, an INFJ leader would likely make a business culture that is either, “The Creator,” “The Regular Guy or Gal,” or “The Caregiver. The first emphasizing emotional creativity and vulnerability, the second simplicity and humility, and the third open kindness and getting along. The first seems like a type 4 INFJ, the second seems like a type 9 INFJ, and the third seems like a type 2 INFJ. There could be others though. See archetypes.com for more on the 12 Jungian archetypes.

I want to be a teacher as well! 😁

Maybe teaching is my calling

I’m also an INFJ teacher. Working with high school kids can have its ups and downs but it DEFINITELY gives me that #4 crucial requirement

Yesss. I am an infj and a teacher. I planned to leave the job and go for a high paying job. But I couldn't leave.

I kinda of wanted to ask why you love your job? Im still in college rn and will soon become a teacher.

Fr bro

hi catherine :) I would strongly advice you stand up to those extraverts, especially that one who steals your idea. I know INFJs in general do not like conflicts, but our work is important to us, and we give it our all, so that in itself is reason enough to stand up for our rights. I hate injustices, so I had to write a long one here. haha

I'm an INFJ, and I call them out because extraverts hate looking bad infront of others. They usually stay quiet afterwards. But of course, because of my INFJ side I say it nice and the others know my implications. Like "thank you for elaborating MY idea, let me actually make some clarifications" and I probably say my idea again if anything 😂

@@karinacarvajal9919 Thanks for the advice. I feel like most the time when I do try to speak up for myself it seems to just get worse and there is more tension.

@@catherinearnold5857 ohhh girl, I get fired up inside. But of course, I try to hide it haha. I learned not to care and be open in what's my mind, people will see you're being genuine and that's what matters most. Just remember, it's a play of words on that moment. In a way, they cannot add or if they try to, it makes them seem like a jerk. You got it! You have that intuition and feeling with you. :) Use that empathy on your side! Also use it in your sweetest and most caring tone but assertive voice(yes, infjs are good at this) some may see it ironic but those are usually our introverts intuitive friends. They catch our drift haha.

Um I didn't reply that...

Same here. I feel like I come off as stupid to others. I think in a complex manner, but when I am given time to write it out I can get my message across clearly and effectively. People are often surprised. I'm a lot smarter than I look.

True!

@@Crysta1986 frr😭

Exactly yes!!!

This is why I always maintain that I write far better than I speak.

how do you get money then ??

Find something you do that’s not a job...I work for myself and it’s AMAZING! I can’t work for others...took me awhile to find it but I have complete freedom.

@@carieyoung1111 what do you mean? What kind of job do u have ?

carieyoung1 what job do you have

@@carieyoung1111 what job do you have? Hahah

I'm an INFJ and I'm also on my way to become a librarian. :)

Hey I'm an infj library student too!

I cut hair and I’ve found that several INFJ’s do well in providing personal services for people. There’s a connection and the work is yours to create and help people find their mojo. I love the independence and the ability to work for yourself yet not be in charge of the entire business, while maintaining my own personal sense of autonomy.

Omg this is me right now, I'm 17 and I just graduated I'm just totally panicking.

Me.

Me..

Same here 💀it's one year left to choose a career... Btw, how what did you choose? :)

@@AlionaLukina me rn, helppp :(

What you say is actually so relatable for me, I'm glad Becoming a lawyer is a dream of mine because I was always a person who wanted to be there for others and still am. The video motivated me even more

Omg same! I am an undergrad who’s hoping and planning to go to law school afterwards and what you said has motivated me more to continue towards this path. During the past years, I have doubted even continuing to study law but its one of the things I’m most interested/passionate about so I can’t easily let go this lifelong dream. I’ve always strived to help others in my own ways and I think that by learning and practicing law, I could reach out towards more people who are in need. Thank you for sharing this! Good luck with law school btw! 🤗

@@katrinaa_lxxxsx Thanks! My best wishes to you as well! I was actually pleasantly surprised by my tutors, I initially thought that they would always act serious and grumpy but it's quite the opposite, they're among the most warm-hearted people and even if you're in a bad mood they manage to fix it within seconds. Definitely changed from an unapproachable quiet person to a smiling and comforting one when I found my place.

I hope I could meet you one day and you could help me out with my legal problems.

Hahaha

This is why I dream of being an off grid herbalist/wise woman.

Same, I’m interested in psychology but I don’t really wanna be a psychologist so i don’t know which career to choose and its frustrating me

I work as a web developer and therefore don't have to talk to people that much.

I’m in medical laboratory technology, because I’m in introvert

I had a former boss tell me I should get a job where I don't work with other people. It turns out, I shouldn't work with people like him. I'm now a primary teacher, and it's awesome.

Well said

I feel it like "helping the world" in the sense of every good thing you can do to any life being on earth. So I understand you very well!

Yap, get in touch with a living creature which has emotion and feeling, it works, animal is amazing, they're so pure... Okay, what about creating vegan movement so we can save animal from being consumed and make people healthier at the same time?

@@stevansiregar8853 Well, this is probably going to irritate you, but I don't think you have to be a vegetarian or vegan to love and help animals. My favorite animals are dogs (domestic wolves), which have been our partners for more than 30,000 years. Like humans, they are team-oriented persistence hunters, and we have been sharing our meat with each other since before agriculture began. I don't mean for this thread to go off on a tangent about nutrition and ethics in a channel on psychology. My only point is that you can be an omnivore and an animal lover at the same time.

What's the "die" Janne about?

@@jannley3036 it's just the German definite article, nothing to worry about.

Me too! What teacher are you planning to be? Im going to major in physics so i can become a professor at a university :D

I'm a primary teacher. It's awesome.

Nailed.

Makes perfect sense to me. You are helping a fellow soul, but they don't talk back and complain, but you can feel their needs just the same.

Maybe because we overanalyse things. So when it's comes to choose a carreer, you only have a few viable options. I was thinking, medecine, veterinary, teacher, lawyer. Yup even if speach in front of a crowded place scared me to death at that time (stil does a bit). I picked biology teacher. Wich is kinda a veterinary that wasnt sure about opening animals and let them alive at the end ... lol Oh that rat is dead ... no problem it was the whole point ! Sucessssss !

So what was the other half?

I want to be a physical therapist because of that too! One on one communication while helping someone on a deeper level...can only dream rn!

I'm a physiotherapist and the biopsychosocial model of managing a patient holistically (as opposed to just treating a limb) is so wonderful as an INFJ.

Me too!

Oh that's a brilliant career idea!!

It's always been my, "if I weren't doing what I do, I could really enjoy" fantasy.

What do you mean by this