Good call :) I spent 10 hours dicking around with the Linux set up yeasterday, and ran out of time to edit. Major latency fail.

I know my eye strain was showing up just before the end. 🤦‍♂️😒 Best wishes from Northern Canada.

Nicolas, whenever I see Lenox in the title of the video I go into settings and watch it at a 50% speed reduction. It makes it a little hard to understand Nick but I haven't had a seizure since.

@@MuscleCarGarage2022 :) I'll pass that on!

Thanks.

Homeless is famous now.

That is a great scope which sums it up perfectly :)

Hope it helps. It is challenging for me to make a video about software set up interesting.

It is a classic shop dog. Hope they dont mind me "borrowing" it.

Have a cool one. I get a lot of comments from the pronounciation police for saying LennoxCNC.

haha now that's cleared up, can we have less flashes of things not lathes? :)

Thanks for the feedback.

Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the feedback.

Thank for the feeback. I got the Sopranos boxed set a few years ago and watched it right through a few times. Brilliant.

Thanks for the feedback.

I really wanted to reclaim some space from the enormous control cabinet. Hope this works out.

Thanks Paul. I struggle to make the electronics and especially the software side interesting in viddeo.

Me to. It was really nice of Stephan to trouble shoot that.

Hope they dont mind me "borrowing" their dog. I gave them a link for it :)

Yeah, shop dogs are always Staffi's down under.

Thanks for waiting. Sorry about that delay :) My work sent us back into teleworking last week already.

I thought the same.... but boy ... my head was spinning after the first few minutes. Videos where you keep producing metal chips are easier for me to follow. ;-) Indeed already last week one could see less and less people around in the IZD...

@@mazchen Yeah, I didn't go in last week.

I am also pleased to make a little mechanical progress. Hard to make videos of software set up. Although there will still be plenty of set up to go.

Thanks. The lockdown is now pretty normal here. My work sent us all to work frmo home a week before this latest one. Yeah, I was really happy that Stephan stepped up to fix the 7i84. I dont have the troubleshooting skills for that.

The Heidenhain stuff is consistantly the best shielding I have seen. They really dont want any EMI problems.

@@RotarySMP Similar with the machine I had to maintain. The problem turned out to be a broken cable strand to the pendant, which would send spurious commands, that overflowed the CAN bus. Anyway, the flex cable to the pendant was 110 EUR, and each single contact (milled/turned and gold plated) was 0.70 EUR, plus very expensive tools to remove and crimp the new contacts. No wonder they didn't make any money on the machine, even though it was 125k EUR originally. But everything was built to perfection, including the shielding inside the cabinet being terminated into a proper ground clamp, and hundreds of pages of cabling documentation.

@@graealex Aircraft crimps are also really expensive. Seems you need a different set of dies for nearly every connector.

They pick this option over searching for EMI going over limits somewhere while changing anything in production cycle. Wiring is cheap, while EMI designing is not if you count units to some specification on one hand :> I don't know, i just assume that not many units were made identical, so they had excuse

@@poprawa Wiring isn't cheap, to the contrary. One of my customers produces bus components that basically exchange more expensive components vs the amount of work required to produce cabling in automation scenarios. Basically it's not the copper that's expensive, it's the time required to manage it.

Thanks. Feels good to make a little progress.

It is a nicely made machine. Hope the rest of it goes back together as well as this first step.

@@RotarySMP yes a great machine worthy of a nice setup which I know you will do. Best of luck in this endeavor and looking forward to see more.

@@PWLopes9000 It is. I am trying to keep up a high standard.

Thanks for that input. Controlling a gas turbines does not need a hug amount of processing power, and I am sure they were very effieciently programmed. I wonder how much recertification work GE has to do with a supplier change from say Motorola to a MXP fab for "identical" chips.

I look forward to that as well, but could still take another 20 or 30 episodes.

Thanks.

Thanks Anton. Looking forward to your Bridgeport series :)

Yeah, Stephan is a really knowledgable guy. He had that trouble shooting sone in about 20 minutes, despite as chatting the whole time.

That would be nice, but Karl is in a different league. He could probably chuck up the whole Shaublin on one of his machines.

Sounds like an interesting project. You should post videos of it.

@@RotarySMP I really should, not sure about my video skills or presentation skills, haha. By the way my brother was a senior engineer at quantas. He has some interesting stories to tell. One was that he was tasked with getting some rodents off a plane, guess they didn't want any wires chewed. He filled it with co2 and let the staff follow their noses for a few weeks.

@@chrislee7817 Yeah, getting todents out of aircraft is challenging. Another method is to fly unpressurised at altitude with the pilots on oxgen for while. Again, finding the carcasses is disgusting.

The Mac SE-30 was my first Apple computer. It had a slot for expansion, where I ran a color graphics board that fed a second monitor; yes a 14” color CRT next to the native 11” monochrome built in.

@@robert_g_fbg I have an SE (not mine originally) that came with a Radius expansion card and monitor, while not color it was a high res mono "full page" display (stock screen could display a half page") neat machines. Though the SE only has a 68k and of of course the 30 has a 030 which makes it oodles more fast and can handle gobs of memory. for non mac people when I say pages, the original black and white mac's had their screen adjusted where you could hold a standard sheet of paper up to them and it would line up. Desktop publishers loved it cause it was truly what you saw is what you got on the printout, even to the point where the pixels would line up (back when brand new and well adjusted)

@@osgeld Thanks for the feedback. We had Apple IIe's at high school, but that was the last contact I had with Apple.

Pronounciation is not my think. Grammer also not.

@@RotarySMP I now know what tshirt I'll wear at EMO 2023 :)

@@chronokoks That'll fit right in.

Good call :)

The repair projects he does are extremely interesting.

Thanks for watching.

Thanks for the positive feedback.

Nice score. My Maho Heidenhain encoders are 36 years old and work perfectly. Couple of lanes of Exe died, but the scales are rock solid.

Nah, I only spent a couple of years on the south island. This is what happens when a Kiwi spends 2 1/2 decades speaking german. You loose control of certain vowel sounds.

Thanks for the comments.

I'd probably get a copyright strike.

@@RotarySMP You should name the Lathe 'Annie'.

@@nrml76 I dont name machines. It will remain "the Schaublin"

I love manual lathes. Can't imagine having only a CNC, but will try to set this up with two dedicated X and Y jog encoders to get closer to the manual usage.

Thanks for the feedback.

I had to google that. Wow, I bet that has complicated internals. Hope you can get it back together. :)

Debugged my ESA-01 a while back. Combined mechanical and electrical gremlins

@@RotarySMP That makes two of us, luckily there is a nice chap called John Wolff that's created a complete teardown, clean, and reasembly guide that I am following.

@@davidbrown8365 I specifically avoided the later electrical models, I bidded on a 1964 model, but that went out of my budget, and the seller offered me a 1968 model in slightly better condition, with all the decimal spacers.

Here's the internals if anybody is wondering ~ kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gLdoh5uL2-C4dmg.html

It stopped the pronounciation police beating on my every time I mispronounced Linux (which was everytime).

:) That is a funny feedback. Thanks.

Yep, that is a large alignment feature. Thanks for watching.

Imagine how often you would be changing them if they were made cheap :)

@@RotarySMP luckily nothing is cheap in the CNC world ;)

@@user-nt6rq2vf7h That is for sure.

Of yeah. Very cool channel. Amazing the size of the jobs he gets, and the speed he completes them.

@@RotarySMP bigger is better. I TOLD YOU!

@@NicoCarsAndCookies You also said to show more leg :)

Kurt's is getting rid on CNC on an old machine while you are adding it.

@@millwrightrick1 This is just a little baby mchine though :)

I always find the installation of Linux from a live CD super easy, and then have some challenges with some "simple" things like this time, but once I get through that, the system is normally rock solid. I know nothing about aduino.

@@RotarySMP Oh, I never have any problems INSTALLING Linux, the problems always start the millisecond that's complete. :) As for GRBL, it's just a jewel of a tiny little firmware, running inside a classic Arduino Uno (which is to say, an ATmega328 MCU), which connects via USB to your PC and handles all the real-time niceties of outputting "LPT/parallel port" type step signals for a CNC the ultra-reliable way only a dedicated micro-controller can. Well, or a mesa card, which is the same thing - only for GRBL, the thing generating the signals and the thing computing when they should occur are under the same roof...

@@AttilaAsztalos Probably interesting for stepper based systems. Although the Mesa 7i96 I used on the mini lathe is also a great solution for that.

Cool Idea. I doubt it will work, but it will look cool in the video :)

Would Blu-tack do a similar job.

@@bostedtap8399 I think over years it would turn to a sticky mess.

This would have been less painful, if I could retain LinuxCNC knowledge, but I seem to memory dump it everytime I get a machine working.

I remember MEP from the air force. Last time I smelt it in a hangar in Malasia a couple of years ago. Evil stuff.

Carbon tetra chloride is what we used at the appliance repair shop, way back then. It would turn your fingers white. Nitrile gloves hadn’t been invented yet it seems. Try getting carbon tet now, 😆

@@robert_g_fbg Right, I remember that from my apprenticeship as well. No wonder there was a huge ozone hole over NZ.

Sure is. I needed a "watchdog", so I borrowed Homey. :)

Good to know thanks.

You are not wrong there. But then you see Andy Pugh's non-round turning in LinuxCNC, and imagine the complicated gear train to do that on an analog machine, and it is not so bad after all.

@@RotarySMP yeah obviously digital system are very nice but some times the fix is so long versus something old that have nothing digital, but yes i agree linuxGNC and similar software are beast that old system like you show in another video the old boards an such

Curtis does a great channel.

There is a latency test built in, and you dont need all the CNC peripheral hardware, as most latency problems are caused by power saving modes etc. If you burn the install ISO to a USB stick, it gives you the option to install, but also the option to run a live session, where it loads itself to a vertual drive in ram. This way you can try it out on any machine, without affecting the existing installed OS. You can then run the latency test and see if there may be issues.

Thanks.

Really.

That is the challenge of Linux. You learn how to do something, but next time you need to do it, they have changed all the basic tools like network management, text editor etc. Fantastic software, by a serious tower of babbel problems as all Linux programmers are singing FrankSinatra's My Way!

At least.

I am glad you managed the Linux config, Linux could be challenging in the beginning but at least you will never will need to worry about windows updates!

I have an electric tooth brush for the Schaublin, it gets used as well.

It came up locally, for a good price, and has 6USB ports. I havent really followed the LinuxCNC-->RPi development, so I sort of stuck with what I knew.

No way. It could damage the rivets :)

I bought them a few months ago from EUsurplus in Portugal. I also waited a few months before ordering, as one of the cards was back ordered.

@@RotarySMP well okay, i was looking for ordering at this particular Shop. But they Do Not answer my Mails...

Thanks for watching.

Nothing at all, but it stops people pointing out my crap pronounciation of Linux. :)

It's Annie Linux, clearly...

@@TomtheKeyboardMagpie ok ok I googled I heard it of course just didn't know the name, a bit not my generation to be recognizable thats all. Although just have to say "into the west" suck compared to "may it be". So here you go xD

Thanks a lot for your help. Sometimes I really struggle with this part.

@@RotarySMP You are welcomed, always.

I had received a bunch of comments previously that I constantly mis-pronnounce Linux, and it sounds like Lennox. Hench Annie Lennox.

I like the Mesa hardware. Very god support on the LinuxCNC forum.

A spare. You have to pull the spindle to replace the belt. Putting a spare in there ensures that the otherone will never again fail. It is held in place with a magnet.

@@RotarySMP Oh I seeeee. Thanks for clarifying!

Coming along... slowly.

Oh, look back a few episodes. I have a tooth brush for it.

@@RotarySMP aaa, missed that one!

I bought them about a year ago from Eusurplus in Portugal. PCW, from Mesa has reported on the LinuxCNC forum that they are having chip supply troubles, but that should be improving.

@@RotarySMP thanks for reply. Luckily i still have my old stock 5i25+7i85S unpacked in the drawer. It's time to get hands on it

@@The_Unobtainium The Mesa hardware is really really good, as is the support from the designer on the LinuxCNC forum.

It sure was.

@@RotarySMP I finished the mini lathe playlist in a couple days and now I'm on the shaublin 😊 Cheers for the wicked content. I wondered why I enjoyed it so much and then all the nz stuff came out, we are a different breed 😏😄 assuming you are from little ol nz 👌

It is. I needed a watch dog. Hope the dont mind me borrowing it.

Otherwise a get a bunch of stess from the pronounciation police for the way I mispronounce LennoxCNC

Just say Annie CNC

@@RotarySMP I heve no care for that, I'm from Ukraine, so...

Thanks for the comment. It helps.

@@RotarySMPyour welcome

I wasn't watching WSBK. But I did have a lot of MotoGP distractions. Looks like Ducati is setting up for a dominant year in 2022. Amazing how close the lap times were this year.

Yep, that is it.

I think the swiss use ashpalt to gunk up their machines.

It is designed to suspend inducted reverse spikes and it does that perfectly, and it is able to pop fuse while wiring is reversed BUT it can blow while providing that feature. I think, that fusing this board is not recommended anyway, but powering with fuse in line is a good idea while prototyping

Yeah, there were a number of good suggestions, which I passed on to Stephan. He had it located in just a few minutes.

Sorry about the butcher pronunciation. Ever since I have been speaking German, I screw up certain English vowel sounds.

Faster PC hardware is not the issue, it is the lack of realtime performance of modern OS's. LinuxCNC runs a linux distro modified with a real time kernal.So you can run stepper drivers directly through the parallel port, but the Mesa hardware offers so much more in the ablity to interface encoders, PWM outputs, Step/Dir, Analog, I/O, various serial protocols. As I understand it, Mesa hardware is mainly used in industrial applications, but the owner had a LinuxCNC driver written, and is very supportive of the community, although it is a niche use of his hardware.

@@RotarySMP Wow I had no idea. Thanks for explaining.

It does. Swiss gunk. Top quality, long lived, tough swiss gunk.

@@RotarySMP Speaking of top quality, thank you for a peek at the connectors on the encoder. Truly those are a thing of beauty.

@@jimsvideos7201 Would have cost good money.

It is what a kiwi sounds like if they talk german for a couple of decades.

I have no idea about Acorn. Could be argued I have little idea of LinuxCNC and Mesa, but I already got two machines up and running with them, so it was the obvious choice.

@@RotarySMP yea, i went mach3 on a conversion because i knew it , and knowing the platform goes a long way

You really cant argue with Linus: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/huCcZKVo06ide5c.html

Sorry about that. Many comment that I mispronounce Linux to Lennox.

1. It is belt driven and needs decent bearings to react belt side loads. 2. In the Late 1970’s when Schaublin designed this large, this was small. 3. Schaublin used a heavy cast iron terminal connector housing for the main disconnect. This encoder is light and tiny. Pick your answer.

@@RotarySMP Oops. I forgot the age of the machine.

@@bobweiram6321 Mine was built in 1983, but I am pretty sure they started production of these in about 1977.