Interviewing a dying man 2 weeks before he died

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DEAD Talks Podcast

DEAD Talks Podcast

14 күн бұрын

Speaking with a dying man was one of the most profound conversations I've ever had. In this deeply moving episode of DEAD Talks Podcast, I sit down with Philip Lister and his wife, Elena Lister.. Recorded just weeks before Philip's passing, we explore the emotional journey of knowing his time was running out. This conversation, one of the most important I've ever had, delves into the human experience of facing mortality and the strength found in love and companionship.
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DEAD Talks with David Ferrugio engages death a little bit differently. Each new guest shares their experience with grieving or perspective on death in a way that shatters the “don’t talk about death” taboo. Grief doesn't end; it evolves. Having lost his father on September 11th when he was 12, he learned the importance of discussion and sharing other people's stories. DEAD Talks Podcast hopes to make it a little easier to talk about grief, loss, death, mourning, trauma, or whatever it may be. You may cry, but you also may laugh.
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@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
What'd you pull from this episode?
@historias-aburridas
@historias-aburridas 12 күн бұрын
I personally don’t feel good watching the big DEAD word behind you whike talking with them. It was kind of cruel.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
@@historias-aburridas sorry to hear that. It's not cruel one bit it's the name of my show
@momo43momo66
@momo43momo66 11 күн бұрын
I know many have not, invested in knowing God, and that's between themselves and God, but I'm happy that i will not be going into darkness, when i exit, there's actually a , Tunnel and a very Bright light at the End of it.❤ Jesus said not everyone, Shall, Be, saved, in other words, not everyone Shall exist in a saved life, and that's between those people and God, they are already ok , with darkness and nothing, in the end, and we have to respect that also.❤
@momo43momo66
@momo43momo66 11 күн бұрын
May He Rest in Peace 😞🕊️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️♥️!
@carolemcdonough8121
@carolemcdonough8121 8 күн бұрын
I just think if the test results are explained to the patient and the questions are asked, a patient can come to their own conclusions. It's hard for a doctor to determine how long you have, but of course, people can be in denial. My adult nephew went through surgery and treatment for a brain tumor. When the tumor came back, the doctors abandoned him and had the nurse tell him there was no more they could do. This wasn't acceptable, in my opinion.
@joyceeddington3305
@joyceeddington3305 11 күн бұрын
The light is so specific in shining on him only. Very spiritual!
@gabrieladickson2826
@gabrieladickson2826 11 күн бұрын
I noticed that as well.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
@@gabrieladickson2826 meant to be
@clevaegg
@clevaegg 12 күн бұрын
I love the way the sun is shining on him while he was speaking. It just made it seem more special like God is already shining on him.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
It's beautiful!
@junelawson5100
@junelawson5100 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful and I noticed the orbs too. This reminds me so very much of what my parents went through. My Dad was 56 when he died and they had this kind of relationship. I’m so glad I could be there for them, particularly my Mum who sadly passed 11 months after at the age of 55. So difficult yet so beautiful. Thank you for your interview and your kind sensitivity ❤ 🙏
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for being here!
@SarahLee-rs7ks
@SarahLee-rs7ks 12 күн бұрын
I send my deepest condolences out to Elena for the loss of her precious Philip. I know how hard it is to anticipate the death of a spouse who is your soul mate. I lost the love of my life of 27 years to leukemia last August and it hits you in the deepest part of your soul. Elena, I can see how much you love Philip and that will remain forever. I believe that he will be with you always through the rest of your journey here on this earth until you meet again. Please take care, I am sending lots of love to you and your family.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for listening ❤
@maddiekain7728
@maddiekain7728 12 күн бұрын
My husband's Grandma was one of my very best friends in the world. He and I started dating in high school, so I was around 16 when I met her. She immediately showed me love and kindness alongside acceptance. I could be my real self, and she loved it. I never felt a single bit of judgment from her, and that's true for everyone else who loved her as well. By the time our first daughter was born, I spent time with Grandma almost every day. She taught me so much about life and helped me learn to be a mom. She was just an amazing human being. Two of the most important lessons I learned from her came during and after her death. She was diagnosed with cancer, declined quickly, and was dead by the end of the month. She was terrified of death. She never came to terms with it before she got sick, so she couldn't cope with her prognosis. She couldn't breathe or walk or eat after a certain point, and my mother in law said Grandma woke up one night, about a week before she passed, and tried to run away from her hospital bed. Or, rather, she tried to run away from death. The fear consumed her, and she spent her final days under heavy sedation. There was one day, though, where the whole family was crammed into that tiny hospital room alongside her. She was still lucid, but she could barely speak. She tried to say her last words to each of us. She told my husband how proud she was of him and told me to take care of her babies. I promised I would. Then, she motioned to me again. I leaned in, and she pointed to my 2.5 year old daughter and said, "She...just said... 'goddammit'." 😂 Which is funny because I'm pretty sure she learned that one from Grandma to begin with. I told her I'd take care of it. Other than that, her words were few and far between. I think the last thing she said, to everyone there, was "I love you all." And we all knew it already. She always showed her love and kindness, she was always very involved in our lives, and she never held back when it came to telling us how she felt and what she thought. So, the two things I learned were this: •Live in such a way that, in your last moments, you don't have to say a word. Live the love you have for others every day, and don't waste a single moment. Don't leave questions unanswered, don't leave relationships in conflict (to the best of your ability), and don't hold on to anger or hurt feelings. Study compassion, because there's more to it than just love, and live in compassion as much as you can. Every single moment is precious, and as long as you remember that, your love and gratitude will always be evident in everything you do. Live in such a way that, if you die tomorrow, your loved ones will already know how much you treasure them and they'll have the best memories to carry with them as they continue through their own lives. •Do your best to confront your fears and hang-ups now, so that they don't overcome you at the end. It's something I work on every day. I want to be lucid and present until the very end if I can. I want my children to see that I died peacefully and happily, without fear or pain. I don't want my death to be traumatic for my loved ones. I want it to be as beautiful as possible, so that maybe my family can find acceptance and peace a little bit more easily once I'm gone. That is all. 💚
@user-bh8cj8me4h
@user-bh8cj8me4h 10 күн бұрын
Beautiful comment thanks for sharing that. ❤
@nitabrozowski4021
@nitabrozowski4021 11 күн бұрын
This is beautiful and upsetting, all at the same time
@KiwikimNZ
@KiwikimNZ 12 күн бұрын
Oh I’m sitting here looking at him and he is not good in this clip! He’s struggling big time. Took a lot for this man to do this podcast. He’s doing everything to concentrate, hold on, stay aware, think clearly, catch his breath, he’s pretty off his face. I’m not he did very well to hang onto life for another two weeks. Poor guy. He’s in a good space, however he is wasted and telling her exactly what she needs to hear and he’s playing to game. He wants her to let go, he is of acceptance and he is waiting for her to get to a place where she can let go, what a lovely man. He has a real peace over him and knows his end is near, someone is there present with him from the other side I can feel them. It’s giving him a sense of comfort. I am a nurse and had many patients pass away, I’ve nursed many family and friends in their final days, so many it’s now a bit of a joke! I nursed one of my best friends, we took him home from the hospital and he spent six weeks at home in his comfortable space. It is a real blessing and a beautiful experience. The traffic of spurt that came through that home in those last weeks was incredible, I would just sit up at night and smoke cigarettes, soaking up the feeling of angels and love all around me. We all face this day at one point, we are never prepared, its all about getting through that initial horrible terminal illness diagnoses, riding those waves the best you can and in 95 % of deaths people come to the place of acceptance. These experiences are incredibly painful, but this is also a time when people feel true beauty and true intense emotion and love. That is a blessing. We all meet again, they never go away, their human energy dies, the physical form, our soul does not. Our souls energy cannot be ignited. Those we love are energy, we can attract it to us when we need it, and we will indefinitely be attracted and return to those we love. ❤️ you were so kind and patient with this couple. First time here, I’ll be back, your are a great interviewer xx what a beautiful conversation. I feel so relaxed right now, that’s crazy. ❤
@Jesus_Saves_Believers
@Jesus_Saves_Believers 12 күн бұрын
We are all on this road. This is interesting. He really had the spiritual aura about him as well as a soldier like way. Peace be with you, Elena, if you read this. Nobody has prepared you for this, but you went through it with grace and strength.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
Such a special episode - thank you for listening
@songs4polarbear
@songs4polarbear 12 күн бұрын
Virtual hugs and love to Elena. RIP Philip.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
🙏
@juliebates3318
@juliebates3318 11 күн бұрын
This must have been so hard for all of you to do but you all did very well at such a very heartbreaking time
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
I appreciate It so much!
@amie6243
@amie6243 12 күн бұрын
Beautiful. Such a precious moment to share
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
Thank you!☺️
@Solacethroughdeath
@Solacethroughdeath 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for continuing to do these podcasts. As a Death Doula and Grief Coach, it is so important to talk openly about death and that it is the last ritual we experience in human form. Blessings for continuing the death positivity movement ❤️
@Jesus_Saves_Believers
@Jesus_Saves_Believers 12 күн бұрын
You did a very good job. You are brave to do this interview.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
I appreciate it. It was a blessing.
@nitabrozowski4021
@nitabrozowski4021 11 күн бұрын
They are a perfect example of what true love is, and what is important in life. ❤
@anneherman6745
@anneherman6745 10 күн бұрын
Wow, I love speaking about dying. Part of our life. Wonderful hard. 💙👼🏻🕯️
@maryellenblount6376
@maryellenblount6376 11 күн бұрын
What an amazing couple. Great interview! I just came across this channel. Glad I did.
@torrito
@torrito 11 күн бұрын
This reminds me of Mitch Albom's "Tuesdays with Morrie." I read it when I was younger, and it profoundly taught me about life, love, compassion, and the importance of human connection.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
I need to reread that book
@imjustmeTBD
@imjustmeTBD 7 күн бұрын
​@@deadtalkspodcast I just had the same thought.
@lorriecheshire6471
@lorriecheshire6471 12 күн бұрын
Lots of feelings while watching. It is all about the love. Thank you for sharing your experience with us. 🥺
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 12 күн бұрын
Thanks for listening!
@melvinyap2830
@melvinyap2830 10 күн бұрын
My condolences 💐
@jessestars2512
@jessestars2512 11 күн бұрын
Whats so sad is the lack of faith. Faith gives us hope. I have experienced this.
@dangerismyusername
@dangerismyusername 12 күн бұрын
The love they had for each other is so precious and beautiful!!!
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
❤️❤️❤️
@heather4180
@heather4180 11 күн бұрын
You did a phenomenal job honoring this couple, their love , and each of them together & separately.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
@@heather4180 thank you so much. I did my best.
@carajssavannahga8830
@carajssavannahga8830 12 күн бұрын
My late dad passed under Hospice and on his last breath sat up looked at my brother then straight ahead like seeing someone and smiled. His cloudy blue eyes cleared up. He told me a year prior that his deceased weiner dog Gator and his mother came to him.abd said Gene I will be back soon.
@kimberlybegonia2869
@kimberlybegonia2869 3 күн бұрын
😇Thank you for sharing your journey! You’re awesome!! Today, My husband just went to the hospital for help with a relentless fever…it’s been ten years of MCL that was diagnosed only 4 months after we got married in 2014. I’m angry, I’m sad and we both know the days are numbered. Doctors are gaslighting us, we feel it. The treatments have been overwhelming at times…Maybe this channel will help inspire me to try and enjoy the days ahead of us, together like this couple right here. Praying 🙏🏼 for peace like this man glowing in the sunlight💜 None of us are getting out of here alive 😚
@ron8511
@ron8511 4 күн бұрын
RIP.........thank you both for sharing your experience
@PS-qn4oz
@PS-qn4oz 10 күн бұрын
How profound to see him literally lit up. My father had a peculiar glow as he was dying. It's hard to describe but it's fitting to see a dying person shining. I hope this man is in peace and his family is comforted from all sides. I do want to say, it's remarkable how our preferences vary when it comes to diagnoses. I'm someone who would have resented a strong, dismal answer to life expectancy questions. Doctors skirt around the issue for people like me who want hope no matter what. Especially with cancer. People have beat the odds.
@ke6445
@ke6445 6 күн бұрын
Bless her ❤
@FcukBillgates
@FcukBillgates 6 күн бұрын
What a beautiful couple. I hope he is now in peace.
@davelewis6256
@davelewis6256 12 күн бұрын
Such a sobering thought that we’re all going to die. I do hope this afterlife thing does exist as it would be a crying shame not to see our loved ones again. I guess if it doesn’t exist then being born and living is totally pointless. But, I have a feeling that it does exist because it seems a bit silly for it not to. It makes sense for it to be. Thanks
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
🙏❤️✨
@dragonfly9209
@dragonfly9209 11 күн бұрын
Yes, it exists ♥
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
@@dragonfly9209 🙏🙏👍👍
@davelewis6256
@davelewis6256 11 күн бұрын
@@dragonfly9209 Thanks, let’s live in hope. 🙏
@AlabamaWyatt
@AlabamaWyatt 12 күн бұрын
I lost my mother in 2021 to a stage 4 Glioblastoma. I was her lone partner during radiology. I was the only one available. I had to keep high spirits for the both of us, as I saw her body become a bag of bones. They gave her 6 to 18 months. She lived 3 years & 9 months after radio was over. They said the cancer, if or when it comes back, in her case, does so in the same perimeter. However, it came back in a different part of her brain, which they said, was an anomaly. When my mother passed, my father, jumped ship. He sold every property he had and moved into with another woman. One he dated before my mother, was divorced, and none of us 3 offspring knew personally before that. Now, my father is gaslighting 49 years of marriage. He is rewriting his marriage. Says he is happier than ever, and my mother did not love him, and used him. Which is not true at all. My mother was most likely, sexually abused, and never admitted this during her lifetime. She was a very difficult person, that much is true. I know that because I was abused, that is for sure. By the same relatives, nonetheless. It is hard to judge a person for not behaving in a casual matter after that. Ever. I hardly see my father these days, even though he is around the same city half the time. He moved away to a 5-hour drive. He wants minimal contact with the 3 of us and is fully committed to traveling and just doing whatever his new companion wants. A literal puppet. It’s a sad state of affairs. I think my mother always wanted out, because I feel the same way. I have always felt unworthy of love and blessings. I alone understand that. I am on medication, doing therapy, and even though it really helps, I still have that longing, that began as a teenager, that I want this experience over with. I miss my mother, and I miss her dog. And there is no sense of family anymore. Which is cruel in on it itself. The podcast with Amber, the west coast medium, you had last week, gave me hope. I wish I believed everything she said, I try to. But I don’t see anything happening after death. And I still don’t understand why I am bothering with the banalities of life, when I have to carry all the baggage that I do. At least when I’m gone, I won’t be me anymore. Either I go somewhere in a different form, or nothing happens. Either way, I win in the end. I just have to be patient and do my best in this world in the meantime. I applaud this beautiful couple. Their love shows. I wish my parents were like that. They seemed to be, until mom was gone, and he flipped. Like my mother said after getting ill. The ones who suffer more after losing a relative, are the ones who stay. Sending love and prayers to Elena. I hope the memory of her partner always stays with her. With all that love they shared.
@DennisMC1974
@DennisMC1974 8 күн бұрын
My Loving Condolences To Your Mom Very Sad Situation For You And Your Mom 😔🙏💟 And Sorry To Say This I Seen Simulator Situation In Other Family But Your Dad Seems Like A Narcissist With No Empathy To Jump Ship So Fast The World Can Be A Cruel Place Very Sorry For Your Loss 🙏😔
@AlabamaWyatt
@AlabamaWyatt 8 күн бұрын
@@DennisMC1974 Thank you. Life is just full of surprises, isn't it.
@rool7956
@rool7956 7 күн бұрын
RIP and peace to his family, I agree with their interpretation of what happens when we die- life is unfair in so many ways and for the most part-good people really die sooner than evil people for some reason
@BrittStarr_
@BrittStarr_ 8 күн бұрын
“Say it , twice!” “Have the courage to try to work stuff out, try not to back off from figuring it out with somebody” Thank you for this episode. My experience with grief is losing both of my parents before the age of 30. This episode really resonates because I was just like Elena watching my mom die slowly given about 6months to live but she died within one month. Thank you for being brave enough to ask the tough but real and needed questions. Transparency is so needed dealing with grief. This could help a lot of people have more open discussions with their loved ones who are dying. I also feel like this conversation gave him peace in a way seeing that he died right after kinda. He got to express himself and release his thoughts. THIS IS THE TYPE OF STUFF THAT SHOULD GO VIRAL! And like Elena said, more people should be doing what you’re doing! You are a blessing thank you.
@oerjanlothe2369
@oerjanlothe2369 3 сағат бұрын
0:00: 💔 Heartfelt conversation with a terminally ill man and his wife, recorded shortly before his passing. 5:19: ⚖ Navigating the duty of truthfully delivering difficult news to patients with compassion and gratitude. 12:00: ⏳ Exploring the mental state of a terminally ill individual and the unique challenges they face. 18:36: ⏳ Reflections on spending time with loved ones before passing away. 26:29: 💭 Reflections on life, wisdom, and leaving a legacy through silence and curiosity. 31:18: 💔 Reflections on fear, helplessness, and precious moments shared with a dying loved one. 37:54: ⏳ Importance of expressing unsaid thoughts before limited time ends. 43:49: 💖 Expressing gratitude for the intimate conversation with two individuals facing end of life. 48:49: 📚 A book titled 'A Short Good Life' was written, and a website was created to showcase poems, reflecting pride and a desire for feedback. Recap by Tammy AI
@elizabethtorres6461
@elizabethtorres6461 10 күн бұрын
R.I.P.
@DennisMC1974
@DennisMC1974 8 күн бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤
@clevaegg
@clevaegg 12 күн бұрын
I love the way the sun is shining on him while he was speaking. It just made it seem more special like God is already shining on him.
@deadtalkspodcast
@deadtalkspodcast 11 күн бұрын
Beautiful!
@KiwikimNZ
@KiwikimNZ 12 күн бұрын
Oh I’m sitting here looking at him and he is not good in this clip! He’s struggling big time. Took a lot for this man to do this podcast. He’s doing everything to concentrate, hold on, stay aware, think clearly, catch his breath, he’s pretty off his face. I’m not he did very well to hang onto life for another two weeks. Poor guy. He’s in a good space, however he is wasted and telling her exactly what she needs to hear and he’s playing to game. He wants her to let go, he is of acceptance and he is waiting for her to get to a place where she can let go, what a lovely man. He has a real peace over him and knows his end is near, someone is there present with him from the other side I can feel them. It’s giving him a sense of comfort. I am a nurse and had many patients pass away, I’ve nursed many family and friends in their final days, so many it’s now a bit of a joke! I nursed one of my best friends, we took him home from the hospital and he spent six weeks at home in his comfortable space. It is a real blessing and a beautiful experience. The traffic of spurt that came through that home in those last weeks was incredible, I would just sit up at night and smoke cigarettes, soaking up the feeling of angels and love all around me. We all face this day at one point, we are never prepared, its all about getting through that initial horrible terminal illness diagnoses, riding those waves the best you can and in 95 % of deaths people come to the place of acceptance. These experiences are incredibly painful, but this is also a time when people feel true beauty and true intense emotion and love. That is a blessing. We all meet again, they never go away, their human energy dies, the physical form, our soul does not. Our souls energy cannot be ignited. Those we love are energy, we can attract it to us when we need it, and we will indefinitely be attracted and return to those we love. ❤️
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