"But Batman does not wait on God" is a line I did not expect to go so hard

This is actually a really good question. You can apply it to every superhero.

I’ve been speculating recently in BTAS “I am the Night”, when batman says “A weary body can be dealt with, but a weary spirit, that's something else”, it was a reference to Proverbs 18:14

As a born again Christian I've been pondering this it's wild how this was posted thanks bro God bless

God comes before all. Batman in my opinion is justified for the circumstances he’s in. the fact he refuses to take human life reflects how God is in him and what he stands for. like he once said, “Vengeance won’t change the past… people need Hope” and that’s what he is to the good people of Gotham, not just a symbol of Fear, but of Hope 🦇

I am a Christian, Batman is my favorite superhero(and maybe fictional character period), and I have pondered this question too. Your analysis was very well done for a short video. I think its possible that the answer varies depending on which interpretation of Batman we are talking about, not too mention at what point in his mission. But I think its important to realize that neither Batman nor any other fictional or real person is Biblical justified without accepting Jesus. We all fall short of God's glory, regardless whether hero, villain, or the more common person. Also, regarding Batman working outside the authorities, which admittedly he does to some extent, lets keep in mind that most interpretations dont do that completely. For one, Batman is usually on good terms with the Police Commissioner and they consult with one another regularly. Heck, the police often have a means that he's provided to contact him if need be. And as for beating people badly despite the no kill rule, he usually only does that if there isnt much way around it. He usually doesnt do it just to torture people or something.

First video I watch, I arrived here by a recommendation from KZfaq, maybe because I'm a Christian and Batman is my favorite hero lmao. But really, the way of life that Batman leads cannot be completely consistent with what the Bible tells us, he kind of lives it in a divided way. In fact, as Bruce Wayne uses his money to finance and help the city, one of these acts is to carry out charitable actions, always contributing to the improvement of hospitals, orphanages, shelters and other institutions in Gotham. Which is a very Christian thing to do. In general, Batman is a human just like us, subject to mistakes and the constant influence of sin, his greatest temptation is precisely that of revenge and the rule of ''not killing''. He himself admits that every day is a struggle against this feelings (Joker being the most iconic character to put this resolve into a test) so as not to lose himself in the abyss if he gives in to these temptations. Anyways, sorry for the bad english, my main language is portuguese (from Brazil). I really enjoyed your content bro! You gained a new subscriber, may God bless you!

Old Testament fan here and I say Yes

You should make this video but on Azrael (Michael Lane)

Romans does not say we are called to obey and follow evil governments and im so tired of Americans specifically justifying it. We are not to follow evil leaders. Sorry. Ps loved this video

Really good video! Loved that you gave both sides of each point made.

I once read in one of his comics (I think Knight Terrors Batman) he said his father was a good Christian man and he wishes to be a good Christian man as well.

I have thought about this, honestly, and your video is great! I would recommend you do Superman next or Captain America! - Luke

Just found your channel and subscribing. God bless you brother ✝️

Great well made video, an interesting topic 2❤. I subbed

I like the video. You did a lot of good work in that. Keep it up!

Not sure with others but Christian WW2 veteran Desmond Doss' biography is convincing me to side with Superheroes' No Kill Rule

Ayo Big fan of Batman here and saw ur first vids just when ya begun So obviously I saw the Batman poster

Batman isn't (usually) doing what he's doing to avenge petty slights against himself. Which negates the first point. There's a difference between taking petty vengeance on tormentors and not trusting God to deal with taunts, versus doing nothing in the face of crime. Saying he's helping the oppressed by showing a clip of him rationalizing a lie also makes for a weak argument. Again, stopping crime and giving in to the urge to slap someone because they insulted you are not categorically equal. So again, that anti-Batman argument falls flat. It specifically says murder, not merely "kill.". As there are times when it's justified. But murdering someone while not in a time of war is what's forbidden. Even if Batman used a gun, in some circumstances, he'd be justified. But the writers won't do that, because then he'd be the Punisher. What is forbidden, look at Far Cry 4. Mohan learned that Ishwari was unfaithful to him, so he shot their daughter dead, so Pagan Min couldn't have an heir. That's what is expressly forbidden. Batman isn't playing that game, unless Zack Snyder controls the writing room. Then, he's plotting to assassinate Superman, just because the battle against Zod was creepy and caused a lot of property damage. Submitting to authorities applies to when they're enforcing what is of God. When they act outside that, they are no longer fulfilling their responsibilities unto the Earthly governance, which is accountable to the Heavenly governance. They instead become usurpers of office. And as such, deserve removal. Likewise, the unjust are not to be obeyed when giving unjust commands. Again, Batman is covered here. A better character to apply this debate to would be the Deputy from Far Cry 5. Defends the weak, but also routinely steals from them. Holds the wicked accountable, but selectively. He doesn't call out the Whitetails on their use of torture. Acts when no one else can, but that comes off as lazy writing on Ubisoft's part that so many other characters are so unable to solve their own problems. Kills when necessary, but also often kills when unnecessary. Then again, that's lazy programming on Ubisoft's part, as you're never even given the option to defeat enemies in non-lethal ways. Running away from a few unnecessary fights is the only possible way to show mercy as Dep. Otherwise, the character is written to make that impossible. And the enemies are programmed to be merciless, super persistent killers, that never know when to quit, so that you'll always feel like you have an excuse to blow them up with as much extreme prejudice as you please.

Would love to see more videos like this and even other similar questions, maybe one on wolverine and his past and actions and how just or right he was or guilty

Excellent video! I would love to see a spiderman version aswell

Great video. On the same parallel, you should also look on the subject of why Nephilims looks like clowns

loved this video man, keep going

in 100% of support for these vids.

We are all godly bibles in life( With or without church ⛪️ ) justice

These vids are so good

I do not care what anybody says. I love Batman so much because he turned his pain into anger, then, into an incorruptible hope. No matter how hard it gets. No matter how hard his face hits that pavement, he will get up, get up, get up, and defend all that is right. The best part about The Batman is his humanity. He is flawed. The Batman does not always know how to make the right choice, but he always does. The Batman's morals are incorruptible. The Batman can- IS that person that you can always rely on to make the right decision, even when no one is beside him. The Batman is not anyone one being, The Batman is a symbol. The standard was set by Bruce Wayne, sure. But it can be anybody under that mask, so long as you just never quit and give it your all every time. A prime example of this is Injustice Batman. That story portrays so many moments where it seems as if it is all over. Yet, The Batman, just a man under a mask, is willing to fight a war against a tyrannical God for years to come. The Batman is not perfect. The Batman never will be perfect because he embodies what humans can live up. And at our core, humans are flawed sinners. The Batman has set an example we should all strive for every second of every day of every year of our life. Jesus died for our sins, so let us be stronger than our sinful nature. An iron will. Just like The Batman.

Incredible video man, great topic, plz continue. Try to turn this into a sort of long-form video essay format

As both a Christian and a Huge Comic Superhero fan. You made some good points. I will have to use these.

Solid vid!! I enjoyed this. I love Romans, and I liked the verses you chose for your biblical backing on why Batman may not be just. As a Christian who likes Batman I'd like to believe he's just but I really feel like he's not lol🤣

Damn, kid... You made me think of Batman in a different way. Thank you

What about Daredevil? He's wildly known to be christian but are his actions christian?

"Thou shall not kill" is a poor translation from the Hebrew and the more accurate term would be " Thou shall not murder". You can kill if it's justified, like someone trying to kill your family (not because your guys are Christians) or in war (like the Israelites). Batman could kill Joker and be justified in most situations.

Awesome idea for a video

I like how you look at both sides rather than just being on one or the other ; this kind of exploration of Biblical Morality though comparing it to Batman.

Sean… I’m only going to say this one time… DO. NOT. STOP. THIS. Continue doing videos like this. Praise God!

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Batman doesn't kill, he just makes them wish they were dead.

Make one on Spider-Man, please.

I live by Bushido and stoicism and i support justice one hundred percent, Blessed Be.

I like this video nice job

Imagine Jesus Unleashing a Beatdown Like that on the Pharisees

Thank you for making this very enjoyable video! I’m also on the side that Batman is biblically just, he spares his villains and tries to redeem them. While Gotham’s authority is corrupt, Gordon isn’t and he works with Batman whenever he can, so Batman does have respect for the morally right authorities. This video was really fun to watch, God bless you!

Welp. This is a vid I never thought I’d see

Daredevil next!!

Best Christian KZfaqr

Make this a series please

Your format to your videos would kill as a long form video essay

bro had tobe so high to ask himself this question . good fucking job

Great video man. God helps those who help themself too so 🤷‍♂️

Amen✝️✝️✝️

I actually have the same portrait you have in the background

He could have chosen to live and let live, but instead he took things into his own hands. Once he took things into his own hands, other baddies came out to contest his reign as ruler of the night. If he chose to live and let live, Gotham at the very least wouldn’t have gotten to the point it made it to.

Amen☦

Do one for Goku from DBZ

Some verses in the Bible seem like they contradict other verses, but, when you look between the two contradictions long enough you will eventually find the right answer, and that's how you are guided onto the straight and narrow path. Not every situation is black and white, but there is always an answer. "Read between the lines"

Do one on punisher next

SPIDER-MAN. WE DEMAND SPIDERMAN

There is actually such a lot of Biblical references in the DC universe it's crazy

using the animated series like 90's and justice league are better examples along with many comics, he never puts himself first then the live action movies, they make him way more violent in live action also tend to take away his heart

Need this for Daredevil

Christ is Lord! May batman be guided by God to good works and unbreakable faith

Sometimes I feel Batman is a character meant to be a struggling Christian as well, reason being how you explained it was about vengeance then became about justice and 2nd why does Batman care so much about changing people from their evil ways like joker for example he wants to help him and I feel the reason why is because he wants to save him from hell but they can’t really get into all that because media would flame them for putting god into stories

Thou shall not kill. There is, however, a line between killing in self-defense and killing for personal malice.

Back in Jesus's day, to backhand slap someone was a way to say they were inferior to you. To slap someone open handed was still an insult, but it showed that you viewed them as an equal. Turning the other cheek was a way of saying "if you are going to insult me, do it. But do it as my equal!" Jesus was saying that by turning the other cheek, we are to stand firm, just don't repay evil for evil. The Bible Project has a podcast episode about Turning the Other Cheek if anyone wants to know more.

Amen

"Vengeance is mine, says the Lord"

He works in the dark to serve the light but he's a vigilante not an assassin

Vengeance is mine,not anybody else's.

In the 10 Commandments, it isn't "Thou shall not kill", it's "Thou shall not murder". It's a mistranslation.

I apply this question to all superheros and it's pretty rare that any are a few exceptions are religious characters and characters that embody ideals of justice

It's shall not murder. Murder is forbiden killing while killing is permissible or neutral. This is an important distinction as war, sepf defense, defense of others, are not unnecessary and evil. Another reason is that if good people refuse to act, then all of society falls to our brutal nature.

Batman is Orthodox☦️🖤

I feel like Marvel has more Christan heroes Like Daredevil and nightcrawler

Im not convinced about the verse of taking a slap. Use of force isnt prohibited. It would make more sense to not use unjustified force (aka beating up non criminals). Also thou shall not murder vs thou shall not kill

Great video. But I will argue that "thou shalt not kill" is not a commandment. The Hebrew translation is agreed to be "thou shall not murder" by many biblical scholars. Big difference, in my opinion.

Hey, I can imagine Batman turning the other cheek to a slap. I like that image- it fits him. "Slap me again. There's my other cheek- now slap me again!" It'd be cool! I wanna see it!

He's the Jesus Christ of superheroes!

I was surprised people care enough to ask that question

I don't care what you say you respect the heroes before you and the heroes after you

I think Spider-man is probably the most biblically just superhero since he’s selfless, protects the innocent but rarely goes after a villain due to anger or vengeance

Do spider-man next

Correction. Their is a major difference between peaceful and passive. Peaceful good. Passive bad

Im finna steal this idea Nah im fucking with ya, this is a good idea tho.

I think Jesus wanted to say that the only true authority is God's, because when you look at it, he didn't respect the authority of Hebrew laws much, which is why he was put on a cross at the end

No. He's not biblically just. He's biblically accurate.

Does Batman ever sleep? That's my question.

Yes 💪👍💪

If Batman followed the Bible, Joker would have been dead long ago.

I remember in the comics one time when Batman met The Specter who represented The Wrath Of God, it was revealed that Batman is a force of justice & order according to The Specter who is one of the cosmic forces of God in DC. So I guess you can say in a real life sense Batman’s actions are questionable but in the context of DC’s lore he’s another mortal solder of God.

"This isn't Chicago, it's GOTHAM." So...Chicago?

He is playing the role of The Angel of The Lord in the movie so he's okay with being vengeance

The people who took Anne Frank were following the law. Lawful is not moral. What does a just man do in the face of corrupt or incompetent enforcement of the law by a corrupt or incompetent government. People over the world over time have had to face this question.

This is the most interesting video I've ever seen. Being believer in God and really like Batman.l I see him in the grey area he is both just and unjust.

Batman does what others won't.

Batman as a Christian would be so cool. Too bad atheist neck beard writers wanna make him an atheist. He was portrayed as loosely Christian before.

Quick answer:no vengeance is gods not mans

Don't get vengeance for yourself, for it is God's. But the word doesn't explicitly say how He would take vengeance and deliver justice; it seems first through humans who obey the Law and his words and when that fails, He sends divine intervention (Holy Spirit, "angels" from Heaven HQ). My issue is that Batman doesn't pray on camera, which he shouldn't and he is often pensive, but he never discusses it even with Alfred. When the corrupt go too far, a man standing up for others will seem like vigilantism. See, we don't wait on God to go to court, for we have biblical laws to support and self govern. But when the court fails us, then we wait on the Most Higj Court.

Is Daredevil Biblically justified? Is The Spectre biblically justified?

As a catholic, i already knew batman wouldn't be align with the Bible XD