Is Meat Bad for You? Kurzgesagt Response

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A response to 'Is Meat Bad For You? Is Meat Unhealthy?' by Kurzgesagt - In a Nutshell which highlights the major research they overlooked and logical leaps they made which could lead to people feeling pretty good about including meat in their diet.
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Vegan Iron and Folate Levels:
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Iron Bioavailability and Vitamin C Study:
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Polar Inuits: plants and berries in summer provided vitamin C."
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Inuits life expectancy lower:
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Inuits lower bone density:
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Inuit mummies osteoporosis
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Inuit Mummies Heart Disease:
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Microplastics Study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Processed chicken and diabetes quote: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...
Neu5gc is a sugar in red meat:
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NIH Heterocyclic Amines in ALL MEAT may cause cancer:
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Advanced Glycation End Products in Meat:
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LDL Causal: linkinghub.elsevier.com/retri...
Meat raises IGF-1: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2...
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395 Studies Show Sat Fat Raises Cholesterol:
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Trans Fat Less than 1% of Diet Recommendation: jandonline.org/article/S0002-...
NutritionFacts.Org Dr. Greger on Low Meat and Diabetes:
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@TierZoo 5 жыл бұрын

The point about climate change is much more valid than you show in your video. The event Kurzgesagt is discussing is a climate shift that took place in East Africa 2.7 million years ago, long before Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalis evolved. Sure, some neanderthals may have survived off of plants, but that was long after this climate change event and not really relevant to disputing that point. Kurzgesagt is talking about the climate change that forced Homo habilis to survive on meat. Fossils from that time clearly depict that H. habilis had to scavenge carcasses to survive. They hadn't developed the spears or bows that would eventually allow humans to take down large beasts, but what they DID have was stone tools that could crack bone. Bone marrow was a nutritious resource that most other Pleistocene predators weren't able to access, and so that was how H. habilis survived. Source: science.sciencemag.org/content/347/6228/1355 For more sources on what I'm talking about, look for studies related to the Ledi-Geraru artifacts discovered in Ethiopia.

@thedarksword3495 5 жыл бұрын

I'm all in veganism this video was way too cherrypicked and one-sided. btw your videos rock keep it up!

@Goat_Eye 3 жыл бұрын

While I deeply respect the work he out on his video. His primary issues are black and white fallacies and his focus on proving himself correct rather than a broad look at research and data.

@something-ev4ug 3 жыл бұрын

Lol Hi Tier Zoo!

@nublex 3 жыл бұрын

lol what are *you* doing here. what a nice bunch of people on this page.

@Justin.T319 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos are amazing thanks for clearing up the climate change

@MictheVegan 5 жыл бұрын

Quick update: There is now a link to sources in their description so my statement is not correct, I believe that is the only mistake in the video. Maybe they were delayed, either way it’s nice to have those links right there :)

@burdenofexisting6886 5 жыл бұрын

Mic the Vegan keep up the good work.

@badegg2914 5 жыл бұрын

Is there a way to put this on the top of the comments?

@zaco-km3su 5 жыл бұрын

@@burdenofexisting6886 What good work?

@burdenofexisting6886 5 жыл бұрын

zaco 2121 I’m guessing you hate videos made with citations and facts made by vegans but you’ll believe an opinion piece by a meat eater or accept biased cherry picked studies.

@zaco-km3su 5 жыл бұрын

@@burdenofexisting6886 And you're wrong. You can guess that Africans are purple and you're just as right. It's the other way around. This is an opinion piece made with cherry picked studies. Yes, it's inconvenient for you. The meat eater made a video with citations and facts. Quite interesting how you've put it. The "meat eater" put up cherry picked studies while this video has "citations". Well, that meat eater has put citations too and this "vegan" definitely put up cherry picked studies to prove his point. He didn't take into account that vegetarians excercise more, for example. Also, very interesting how you've put it, the "vegan" gave facts whi le the meat eater posted "an opinion piece". It's the other way around.

@bernardchia431 5 жыл бұрын

Mic, do a response video to VegSource calling out Dr Gregor’s recommendations on nuts and DHA claiming that it was based on bogus research.

@christiandelvalle8411 5 жыл бұрын

It’s easier (and less productive) to make a one-sided argument that will appeal to a group of people than to show an issues full complexity by considering a large portion of the data, reviewing the pros and cons of each position and admitting that certain questions are still unanswered and up for debate. Kurzgesagt’s latter approach (the full presentation of the facts rather than one side of them) did a good job cautioning meat eaters of the perils of eating too much meat while also not falsely claiming that eating any amount of meat is bad - the evidence frankly does not give this indication. I am not condemning vegetarians or vegans, I am just saying that those two are not the only healthy (nor are they necessarily the healthiest) diets one can have. Studies that point to that conclusion are often confounded by other variables, such as, as Kurzgesagt points out, the generally healthier lifestyle led by vegans.

@happygimp0 5 жыл бұрын

Generally correct, but they also make some claims that are just false. For example the claims about the Inuits or that you can eat fish without worry.

@dangernoodle2868 4 жыл бұрын

Why are we assuming that vegans lead generally healthier lifestyles? We have junk food vegans and we have meat eaters who also are also health conscious. This “healthy user bias” gets thrown around a lot but is there any evidence to back that up? It’s just a lazy way for you to dismiss evidence that doesn’t support your conclusion.

@Abhishek-sr2pu 3 жыл бұрын

@@happygimp0 watch the video again then say this.

@felougabular2652 3 жыл бұрын

Cids video is also one sided.

@felougabular2652 3 жыл бұрын

@@happygimp0 yep you can, kinda, river non-predators fish dosent have significant amounts of mercury. And would you be 100% healthY only eating potatoes or cabbage? No of course you wouldnt.

@Withamik 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much, especially for releasing a response so quickly after that video's release.

@leonardodicuckrio8879 5 жыл бұрын

Yeah other vegan youtubers like Vegan Gains are too f*cking busy doing sh!tty live streams to grab easy money.

@Withamik 5 жыл бұрын

Leonardo DiCuckrio Dang.... Well the Truth prevails though and you can't hide it... Mic will definitely grow more and more in time and become more successful as he is sharing great Truth, evidence, as well as content!

@Withamik 5 жыл бұрын

French blue8 it's also too bad that they have such a massive following whilst sharing such untruth. That's a dangerous and deceptive thing as you have a lot of people that trust you and you just outright implant false ideas into people's minds with your influence. They should hire people to handle their data and fact check their work thoroughly at the least (and if they do, well they need better people!)

@jakeypoo5350 5 жыл бұрын

Hey guys, this is also WITHAMIK but on a different channel! I hate to be self-promoting here but I also did not expect such a positive reaction from such a simple comment I felt I should share! But yeah, it's really surprising to me because I've been getting into vegan discussion a lot lately! So yeahhhh, I do acoustic and songwriter stuff on this channel, Jakeypoo (WITHAMIK is for music production right now only). I hope to eventually have an album touching on these complex topics such as veganism and so on... Currently my music revolves more around how an individual struggles with trying to reach a higher good, yet struggles with all the attachments and problems that arise with living...that's been much of my writing so far for Jakeypoo... I will then extend that to more societal and political issues in time as I grow more as an individual and becoming more conscious, informed, and aware of what is about in the world... And also as I grow as an artist too hopefully. I write my music with as much Truth as I can as I wish to hopefully better this world. I do all my work at home so I have to reach out where I can and here is one of the first times I'm doing so. So hopefully you may connect with my work 🙂 I'm fairly new to to the vegan community, but I really hope to connect more because I've been finding so much of myself in veganism. I went vegan the end of summer last year and have recently become more outspoken. Simply because I'm realizing more and more how the people of this world won't become better people if each of us don't make the attempts to live as greater individuals consciously constantly, and communicating what we can that is True to those that may not understand or ever consider trying to understand... And I've been seriously enjoying engaging in productive, meaningful, and civil discussion in heavy ethical and philosophical topics. Also, I hope anyone reading this knows that I don't want to come across as non-human or as a robot trying to promote a product. I really just typed this all out on my phone because I genuinely wish to hopefully bring much change to the world and others with what I write and the art I make ❤ Because if you check out anything, I'm seriously very grateful 🙂 My music is available on all the digital music platforms, just search Jakeypoo! Thank you thank you thank you and chat with me if you guys wanna ❤

@RandomHandle837 5 жыл бұрын

French blue8 listen man i have done zero research so their is a 90% chance I am wrong. But is in fact, not dangerous , I mean if it was dangerous we wouldn’t be eating, the problem is over consumption, a lot of meat will damage your health (like all the food we eat), moderation is important, also the environmental problem are overpopulation and demand problems, not the meat Also they never said “meat is 100% safe”, They said that it is has great nutritional values, but eating a lot of it can increase the risks for some diseases Then again why am I wasting my time? I know how this going to go, We are going to start a reply war which ends in the word “sheep” or blind “follower”

@Dindonmasker 5 жыл бұрын

I think it's pretty crazy how they talked about inuits as healthy people but didn't even went near the blue zones!

@someguy2135 5 жыл бұрын

I agree. I mentioned the Blue Zones in their comment section.

@bagiee1 5 жыл бұрын

With bro science, you can claim that donkeys can fly too.

@elpretender1357 5 жыл бұрын

Not even that. Saying meat is healthy becausethere is a realy, reeealy small population in an extreme climate that survive almost entirely of meat specifically because there are no plants in their region is such a dumb argument.

@venus_envy 5 жыл бұрын

@@elpretender1357 It's also not even true, the Inuit never ate exclusively meat, but they probably ate a higher proportion of animal products in their diet than, say, the Tarahumara, and their health suffered for it, as evidenced by their mummies.

@crazywaffleking 5 жыл бұрын

Meat and animal products is consumed in the blue zones.

@marecwol8326 5 жыл бұрын

"Can I have a plastic bag...oh, is already inside" That was strong 😄

@karenchapman6126 4 жыл бұрын

Marec Wol hahahahaha

@felougabular2652 3 жыл бұрын

Just like plastic bags some plants stay on your digestive system for a LONG time

@tshambee 2 жыл бұрын

@@felougabular2652 are plastic bags anywhere nearer to "organic material" than "some plants"? :/

@felougabular2652 2 жыл бұрын

@@tshambee its the opposite but the output is the same, since some nutrients in plants are só complex that cows need 3 stomachs, we can digest plants, but not fully, most people cant even handle glúten, it dosent mean its bad for you, it just mean it isnt healthy tô eat a lot of it.

@DavidYohnson 5 жыл бұрын

Mic I Love How You Tackled All The Points With That Video And Was Very Respectful. I Support You 100%

@keanedasilva4315 Жыл бұрын

Are you joking about the respectful part? He was titled the whole time. At one point I think he was mimicking it and mocking what are talking about. I think some of his points about the video are good and it’s fine for him to represent his points how ever he wants but we must be watching 2diff videos lol

@SubjectE57 5 жыл бұрын

To be fair they do have a link in their description to a detailed page of all their sources.

@LoreleiMission 5 жыл бұрын

And as Mic observes at the beginning of this video, they didn't refer to the sources correctly in their video. Which doesn't make them "sources" but more like "here's some links and we'll pretend we studied and understood them." :(

@SubjectE57 5 жыл бұрын

@@LoreleiMission Word for word Mic says "Alright, let's look at what they missed or misconstrued about meat while using the research linked in the description, something they didn't do in their video which frustrates me." I also checked the sources in the Kurzgesagt video and the ones I read looked fine, can you point to any examples of them misrepresenting what they linked? Mic has a good video and I do think Kurzgesagt was biased but let's make sure we have our facts straight before we go throwing accusations around.

@owenywang 3 жыл бұрын

@@LoreleiMission Shut up.

@chaos_sam7796 3 жыл бұрын

But thing is those reports are very incorrect due to lack of resources and skill not to mention researchers being tipped off by rising sugar industries back in the 60s were these reports took place. Since then there have been dozens of reports saying that cholesterol in the meats had a very minor to no negative health effect on your body, same thing done with saturated fats and protein being bad for your heart and liver. Last thing is that most people substitute big meaty meals with snacks that are most the time processed food which normal are high in carbs, sodium, and sugar which are all a much bigger recipe for disaster than meat

@fzfxfcf 3 жыл бұрын

@@owenywang you

@travisw.5116 5 жыл бұрын

This sounds like it could've been written by joe rogan.

@NastyFool7 5 жыл бұрын

Idk if I'd compare Mic to Joe Rogan :x

@NahkriinKonahriikLXXVI 5 жыл бұрын

He doesn’t give a fuck about what vegan retards think 😂

@NahkriinKonahriikLXXVI 4 жыл бұрын

James Parker and vegans can’t stop promoting their fad diet

@ND-gb3dd 3 жыл бұрын

@@NahkriinKonahriikLXXVI so vegans are retards? Some of the greatest geniuses were vegetarian, like Einstein, Da Vinci, Tesla, Ramanujan, Gandhi, Van Gogh, Edison, Pythagoras, Twain, Kafka, Shakespeare, Newton, and many more. Veganism is a subtype of vegetarianism.

@Commandosoap777 3 жыл бұрын

@@ND-gb3dd not to mention gladiators were also almost completed plant based

@whitestormpegasus3733 5 жыл бұрын

I actually wanted to ask you to respond to this video yesterday so this is amazing :D I love your content

@truefuschniken 5 жыл бұрын

Love your channel and the info you share!!! 💟

@TheObsessedGardener 5 жыл бұрын

Haha... they were so incredibly schooled. Glad we've got Mic on our team.

@jimothyus 5 жыл бұрын

Its like mike is playing chess and they are playing candy crush saga

@lellyt2372 5 жыл бұрын

@@jimothyus this is so perfect !

@animegod1714 5 жыл бұрын

Lol. You are all so brainwashed. Veganism is not healthy. Eating less meat is good but completely avoiding it is just stupid

@bright4214 5 жыл бұрын

@anime god Link me a single study backing up your insane claims.

@bright4214 5 жыл бұрын

@HDvids101 My guy, you’re ignoring SCIENCE? That’s pretty messed up, might as well believe the earth is flat and there’s no gravity. Also funny when meateaters claim veganism is a cult, despite the fact most cults do rituals where they sacrifice animals or humans. & who are the ones gathering around a table eating dead flesh every night? Sounds pretty clear to me who’s part of a cult.

@tom95521 5 жыл бұрын

I like seitan instead of meat. My digestive system can handle gluten. My microbiome is awesome.

@byReZio 5 жыл бұрын

I’m vegan but if you think seitan is healthier than meat, you’re pretty delusional. This shit has no nutrients at all it’s a processed food. Healthwise, meat is much better than seitan.

@ceasefireforpalestine 5 жыл бұрын

@@byReZio i wouldn't say meat is healthier than seitan...how is seitan that can mixed with tofu,beats,maybe chickpeas or other vegetables less healthier than real meat ?i'm sure you've heard the negative health effects of meat ? that doesn't really sound right

@venus_envy 5 жыл бұрын

@Herbivorous Living Why are you called "Herbivorous Living", "sister"?

@byReZio 5 жыл бұрын

soul in a body Because meat can’t be mixed with beans?

@tom95521 5 жыл бұрын

I don't pamper my digestive system when it comes to vegan food. I like to eat edamame outer pods too (cooked of course). My microbiome is/are tough.

@FountainBeee 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for taking the time to create this.

@davidstewart4149 5 жыл бұрын

You might be interested in "The Book of Why: The New Science of Cause and Effect," which deals with the correlation/causation question and how causation is now discernible.

@cam4848 5 жыл бұрын

Honestly their other video on the meat industry is what started my track on becoming vegan.

@JavenarchX 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah pushed me some more too

@ObjectsInMotion 5 жыл бұрын

“They don’t agree with my opinion therefore they can’t be neutral because only I’m neutral because I use facts and no one else does” -this video

@rodreiss4974 5 жыл бұрын

Exactly. This dude is such a hypocrite.

@thomasvaneijl1167 4 жыл бұрын

Objects in Motion hear hear. This comment section is just one massive circlejerk of vegans and vegetarians shitting on balanced arguments

@kerryhowe3635 3 жыл бұрын

Great video, I noticed these points when watching the same video and someone in a comment mentioned your video. I love that there is anyone putting videos out saying "hey think about what youre doing." No matter what anyone else says I always go back to the sun. If I have to go through more living things to get to the sun's energy, I am going to change what I am doing. Big Shout out to Kurzgesagt for replying, but kind of missing the point in saying, "You really cannot come up with a way that eating meat is 'good' when you have to consider the animal death involved."

@JMontana007 5 жыл бұрын

Nice! I was waiting for this response.

@VeganDefinition 5 жыл бұрын

How to know if someone is vegan, don't worry, they'll use facts and logic to prove their points...

@loganwalr 5 жыл бұрын

You mean mean veganism logic and facts. Which don't really hold water.

@garypack1709 5 жыл бұрын

Making something up and wanting it to be true doesn't make it a fact . It is also illogical

@tourmaline1810 5 жыл бұрын

Biased sources aren't very factual.

@serens6948 5 жыл бұрын

Tourmaline you don’t need biased sources to prove that a vegan diet is good for you, the planet, and the animals. Harvard, Oxford, WHO, American dietic association, National Geographic, etc.

@linyenchin6773 5 жыл бұрын

Not "logic" but *reasoning,* no mind can "use logic."

@aslaughterzombie 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the quick response on kurzgesagt's video. I used to enjoy their videos, but i guess i should have questioned their other "science" videos as well... i mean if they eff up this much on a topic with sooo much data out there but they say they always do intense research... come on 🧐🤦‍♀️

@Grissol69 5 жыл бұрын

I can't possibly be wrong... it is them who are wrong even though their other videos are all well researched but THIS one is wrong because it goes against my beliefs!

@jssj9587 5 жыл бұрын

@DingleBungus Everything you just said was completely random claims with zero proof. Want to prove Mic wrong? Start linking peered-reviewed studies.

@jssj9587 5 жыл бұрын

@Throngdorr Mighty Exactly. Literally everything the fucktard said contradicts science. I'm guessing it's probably a religious nutjob who thinks "god" is real. What a moron.

@satoriginkgo8622 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you again for clearing this one out! ;)

@adamprocopio7232 5 жыл бұрын

Whoaaa sources? I wish every KZfaq video had these. Great video!

@Israel2.3.2 5 жыл бұрын

Love seeing Mic's videos in my feed ^_^

@MajasticFantastic 5 жыл бұрын

Their video got me thinking tho, if they got so much wrong on this topic, how many more things do they get wrong or leave out of other topics I know nothing about and just take their word for it. For someone who has no idea about nutrition, that video is the be-all end-all of all knowledge about meat consumption. And also, they're not scientists, they're youtubers. They tell people what they want to hear in order to grow. These short educational videos are kind of scary.

@hat_maker 5 жыл бұрын

I know their addiction video received a lot of criticism as well

@mobotman6930 5 жыл бұрын

@@hat_maker They deleted their addiction video after reconsidering how it was made. I don't know if they made another one, that might be the one you are talking about.

@duncanrobertson6472 5 жыл бұрын

They have been very open about their process, admitting fault on videos that recieve criticism and even taking them down if they think it's warrented. Legitimacy is very important to them, and they have extremely extensive sources sites.google.com/view/sourcesismeathealthy/startseite?authuser=0 - far more in-depth than I've seen from any other youtuber. Of course they're not scientists, scientists do research. It's the job of media organizations like Kurzgesagt to package information in a way that is understandable to general audiences. They bring in multiple experts for every video they do - they referenced 5, 3 by name for this video in that sources link. They're not perfect by any means, even with that amount of rigor it's hard to consistently make bulletproof videos, and while Mic found some flaws in their video, he is extremely biased and misinterpreted a lot of what they said in an attempt to make a more biting response video himself. Personally I respect their ATTEMPT at being unbiased. Even if they don't always succeed, at least they try.

@Cuasimodo2372 5 жыл бұрын

Mobotman correction, they took it down after being called out (by YTber coffee break) on how inaccurate it was

@RmonikMusic 5 жыл бұрын

Please don't start thinking like this. Consider that Kurzegesagt is run by a team of researchers that try their hardest to remain neutral in every topic whereas Mic is literally one guy, not a scientist, a vegan trying to defend the vegan lifestyle. Yes he got a lot of things right, but he also cherry picks a lot of his sources to "debunk" other scientific data that doesn't fit his agenda. They've recently made a video about their process of making videos, I advise you check it out, because they most definitely are not "just youtubers and not scientists". Please understand that science is far from exact, and contradicting scientific studies come out literally all the time. There is very little consensus, especially concerning biology, so that's why Kurzgesagt tries to push the "do nothing in extremes but everything in moderation as best as possible" idea.

@joshharvey-du2vj 5 жыл бұрын

I love this channel. Keep making the videos dude, you're the best.

@hairnerd86 5 жыл бұрын

Great video! I'm sharing to help educate!

@d.rabbitwhite 5 жыл бұрын

I knew you were going to do a response when I saw it in my feed. Kudos for anyone able to sit through it. I did not attempt. Even the small bits here made me want to breathe fire.

@user-zm5sk4ht9c 5 жыл бұрын

I see a lot of people getting pissed over the comments and I would just like to ask you to calm down if you are because emotional attachment especially anger clouds judgment and lowers confidence. As someone trying to serve as an example you are going to be judged so you have to think about your self image. Weather youre going to be seen as the pissed af vegan who can hardly ground their argument without getting too emotionally attached or the calm wise, mindful sage that came here to free the animals and save the planet. ;) And if you want to be on top of your game next time when faced with a debate you have to learn to let that shit go and use the cold hard undeniable facts.

@dmmm876 5 жыл бұрын

@@user-zm5sk4ht9c Really great points. I'm hoping that more vegans will take this approach

@abdullahdaone 5 жыл бұрын

You need therapy

@d.rabbitwhite 5 жыл бұрын

@@abdullahdaone so?

@ENZOxDV9 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for exposing vegan crazy once again

@RahulRaj-vg4jb 5 жыл бұрын

Much awaited one, hope @vegangains also does a response video

@execrated-bythem1583 5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for this!

@phreak074 5 жыл бұрын

Love that you guys responded to that vid... while i usually like their vids, that one was quite a bit off!

@vietnamd0820 5 жыл бұрын

Good to see Mic take on the “is meat bad for you?” video. While I appreciate that video’s ending which recommended cutting down meat consumption, it is inadequate given the damage meat has done to humans’ health, the environment and the animals.

@someguy2135 5 жыл бұрын

People are less likely to even cut down their consumption after they see all the good news about their bad habits in the video.

@CarnevalOne 5 жыл бұрын

What damage, dummy?

@supermario69kraftgami23 5 жыл бұрын

@VietnamD0820, that’s the least people can do! The idea that people have reduced their flesh intake is probably what keeps many people from going vegan!

@vietnamd0820 5 жыл бұрын

Mario Þe Rebel Agreed...no argument there

@Kayte... 5 жыл бұрын

@@CarnevalOne Dummy? Is it necessary to call people names? It's bad form.

@justinkasey1058 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your time and research, only wish your video had as many millions of views.

@owenywang 3 жыл бұрын

It won't.

@carolschwers6537 5 жыл бұрын

Another well done video! Thanks!!

@gavooleiva6040 5 жыл бұрын

I was really waiting for this videao

@abyssmenara1686 5 жыл бұрын

Wow I can't believe you listened to my request! Thank you so much! 💗

@missoats8731 5 жыл бұрын

As a german, your various spellings of "kurzgesagt" are hilarious😂👍

@Ada-me6ge 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you. I'm learning what means to be honest and have an informed opnion

@readyandsettochangeplace6620 5 жыл бұрын

Well done, worth sharing!!

@darrenparis8314 5 жыл бұрын

15:31 No Mic, it's an oblate spheroid. The new people to the channel are going to tear you to shreds! :(

@SNinjaQK 5 жыл бұрын

no its flat like a bed

@markwoodsofficial 5 жыл бұрын

simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblate_spheroid An oblate spheroid is a famous shape. It is the shape of the Earth and some other planets. It is like a sphere squashed from the top so the diameter from pole to pole is less than the diameter from equator to equator. Shapes of this type are called ellipsoids. Oblate spheroids have rotational symmetry around an axis from pole to pole.[1] Many planets, including the Earth and Saturn, are oblate spheroids. The difference between a sphere and the Earth's shape is small, only about one part in 300. Stars spin, and some spin very fast. The faster the spin, the flatter the oblate spheroid. The Sun rotates at 2 km per second, neutron stars have speeds of thousands of km/sec.[2] Origin of flattening In 1687 Isaac Newton published the Principia. He included a proof that a rotating self-gravitating fluid body in equilibrium takes the form of an oblate ellipsoid of revolution (a spheroid).[3] The amount of flattening depends on the density and the balance of gravitational force and centrifugal force. In other words, the Earth is a spheroid because it rotates. Gas giants like Jupiter and Saturn are flattened by rotation more than the Earth.

@supermario69kraftgami23 5 жыл бұрын

@Mark Woods, no, eggs are oblate spheroids. The earth is a flat surface.

@MictheVegan 5 жыл бұрын

She might now be a perfect sphere but she’s beautiful just the way she is!

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

@@MictheVegan mic can you please not hate in people who eat meat we actually do not need suplements

@Softestpretzel 5 жыл бұрын

Your prompt response time to these videos is amazing!

@smoothcriminal5650 4 жыл бұрын

what a joke

@monicapoole2115 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you for this video. My son made me watch that cartoon on meet and I said a lot of the things you said. Good to know I wasn't off base.

@savannahv1808 5 жыл бұрын

Almost spit my beer out on my ipad, “are you on crack” still laughing!!!!

@mmmmmmmm2472 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much

@wahidurrahmansaadi4114 5 жыл бұрын

i was watching Kurzgesagt's video and thinking if only Mic see this.......and the next video youtube suggested is this one 😂😂😂

@jayyyzeee6409 5 жыл бұрын

Well done! Very thorough!!

@abbdabbles6038 5 жыл бұрын

So glad you made this! 👏🏽

@sidney6871 5 жыл бұрын

good work man, doing stuff that I personally would be too frustrated to debunk

@kerlygerl 5 жыл бұрын

Excellent video!

@timolo0411 5 жыл бұрын

Hey. Ive just found your channel and i find your response very valid. Kurtzgesagt likes to look at thier criticism and i wonder if they will adress your points.

@ninjanerdstudent6937 5 жыл бұрын

I came across that Kurzgeagt video too. I was hoping _MicTheVegan_ would respond to it.

@jessed1090 5 жыл бұрын

Ok my quick history I had high cholesterol while eating dead animals so rather than take drugs I became a pescatarian still had high cholesterol saw forks over knives and what the health went vegan over night it’s almost 2 years later my cholesterol is perfect and i have never felt better both physically and mentally

@jessed1090 4 жыл бұрын

Hubert Kam my lowered cholesterol is just a by product the loving all life and not knowingly consuming any animal products as well as eating a primarily whole food plant based diet. Thanks for your concern .

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

@@jessed1090 I love meat

@jessed1090 3 жыл бұрын

@@vectorohyeah1163 and?

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

@@micahhumdinger7473 the only medical use for keto is to stop epilepsy

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

@@micahhumdinger7473 what is Keri

@mooretodream 5 жыл бұрын

You are doing IMPECCABLE work, Mike! Extremely thorough. Well done!!

@debbiemills4117 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Mic- where can I get that shirt that says eat your own leg?

@tobigm1917 5 жыл бұрын

Hey Mic, nice vid as always :) But one thing I would like to point out: 14:29 Cholesterol is not a lipoprotein but a lipid, even though its not a triglyceride (your standard storage substance). Maybe thats what you wanted to say there? Pls correct me if im wrong :)

@amethysttoast3642 5 жыл бұрын

I am thankful for your existence 👏🏻🙌🏻

@mikeskylark1594 5 жыл бұрын

Same! :)

@Noone-fr7xf 4 жыл бұрын

1k people won't agree with that statement.

@keithh23 5 жыл бұрын

Meat is not unhealthy as long as you eat it only once or twice a week. Cigarettes aren't unhealthy as long as you only smoke once or twice a day. Yeah, good luck with that.

@yingyang1008 5 жыл бұрын

How is meat unhealthy? What's unhealthy about it?

@Cuasimodo2372 5 жыл бұрын

Both those statements are true..

@keithh23 5 жыл бұрын

@@Cuasimodo2372 yes they are true. My point was that most can't do that when you factor addiction, convenience, and traditions. Meat and cigarettes are not healthy but can be tolerated with no I'll effects at low quantities. Consumption of these products in the US are too high even when thought to be used in moderation. People like to argue that Blue Zone populations eat meat. But their diets are a lot more plant based (high in fruits, vegetables, legumes and whole grains) than the way we eat in the US. With veganism there is no "moderation" or "once in a while." The commitment was made at decision to become vegan. There's no such thing as cheat days when it comes to animal foods as a vegan. Cheat days on plant based diets can easily bring you back to the SAD. That's why I said, "good luck with that"

@jorgefernando3778 5 жыл бұрын

Meat is so unhealthy, that 100% of people that eat meat die because of it, right? people die at ages of 80, 90, 100 even 110, AND EAT MEAT. It has been like that for CENTURIES. But nooooo some offended vegans get sad because that little cute chicken died to feed someone. I've eaten meat my whole life, never had any health problem, im not overweight, i don't have fat, i do sports. No one in my family was vegan, most of them lived up to ~90 years old. We are animals just like every other animal and we are at the top of the food chain, deal with it

@keithh23 5 жыл бұрын

@@jorgefernando3778 so cigarettes must be healthy too.

@joemclaughlin8106 5 жыл бұрын

I don’t remember if I commented this in a last video but what are your thoughts about Jeff Nelson’s, of vegsource, series on nuts and even more so on his video on DHA? Seems like he really does his research.

@krishnanunnihari9332 2 жыл бұрын

You should do a lot more of those Borat impressions. They're wild!

@deedubbleyew_ 2 жыл бұрын

the citation is in the bottom right corner at 1:27 ?

@nathanhollow0 2 жыл бұрын

"It's a team of animators that don't think they're necessarily nutritional researchers" Wow you got that so wrong. Animation is their own separate team. They have writers and it's their job to do research, talk to experts and handle the script. Shows that you don't do research and if you can't even handle trivial stuff like that I wouldn't trust you with more complicated stuff.

@carolinebaldan3037 5 жыл бұрын

What is your opinion on foods that are technically still whole but are very oily (ex peanut butter)? Thank you!

@SpiritRed 5 жыл бұрын

Mike you’re brilliant bro. Thanks. Great vid.

@jefflittle8913 5 жыл бұрын

By the way, Kurtzgesagt is German. Kurtz is "short" and gesagt is "said", so probably "said briefly" is a good translation.

@felixherz2864 5 жыл бұрын

"In a nutshell": it's literally part of the channel's name

@chapachuu 5 жыл бұрын

I was hoping you would do this video! Cheers :) Can you do a video addressing Dr. Mike's 30 Day Vegan video?

@addyz0r 5 жыл бұрын

That challenge was so bad. Four weeks. Two weeks he was in caloric deficit and suddenly veganism is the reason he couldn't go to the gym. A doctor that doesn't plan his own meals. And that box of food he got. I don't know any vegans who eat like that.

@carinaekstrom1 5 жыл бұрын

@@addyz0r Yes, extremely bad role model. He should be ashamed.

@venus_envy 5 жыл бұрын

Ohh!, yeah that was ridiculous, I'd love to see Mic's take on that, though he'd probably say it's "ridiculous". lol

@AnaPaula-tc4jr 5 жыл бұрын

Hi Mic, Question. What do you think of plant base protein shakes like Falcon Protein?

@happygimp0 5 жыл бұрын

Not a whole food, if you are not underweight, you should not eat them.

@martainsagualde 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, Mic, I know it has nothing to do with the topic, but could you make a video about microplastics in water and how to remove them, if that is indeed possible?

@williamnewman845 5 жыл бұрын

You are so awesome and truthful. Thank you for every post that you share.

@LouisGedo 5 жыл бұрын

*Create a Better World by......Going and Staying VEGAN*

@linyenchin6773 5 жыл бұрын

You mean generate, render, produce or make, not "create" aka *summon something from absolutely nothing, not form out of logical emergence.*

@g.h7657 5 жыл бұрын

@@linyenchin6773 what? Lol go vegan

@linyenchin6773 5 жыл бұрын

@@g.h7657 *Giant Robot Lives Matter!!*

@davidhenderson5051 5 жыл бұрын

@Louis Gedo - YES SIR!!

@Starry_Night_Sky7455 5 жыл бұрын

It's peace of mind too.

@ShanaLeigh 5 жыл бұрын

I was hoping to hear you respond to this!

@mikeskylark1594 5 жыл бұрын

Great video, Mike! :)

@gofia 5 жыл бұрын

At 6:40 is that Einstein eating Fish?? Okay then 😂😂😂😂😂

@tedcoombs7762 5 жыл бұрын

gofia he was veggie lmao

@flattlandermontgomery1524 5 жыл бұрын

To be fair, I was once convinced of the healthiness of meat. I was convinced by Weston A Price. I wasn't looking for good news about bad habits, I really wanted to be healthy and there was a time when I was really upset and depressed because I couldn't understand how we could be created to be so compassionate and empathic and yet be forced to kill other living, conscious beings in order to just live. I mean I know this world can be a little crappy at times, but how could that be true? So for me, that we do not need to eat animals to live and thrive is very good news indeed.

@flattlandermontgomery1524 4 жыл бұрын

@@hubertkam7647 It's still a much kinder choice

@Bruhs246 2 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately plants are living too, even though they don't have a brain. Eating animals and plants are just the way of life. We aren't doing anything criminal as long as we don't kill their species off. They are too primitive to have emotion on a deeper level and only really care about the survival of the species at the end of the day. It's okay to eat animals as long as we do it responsibly. There should always be new animals of the species.

@flattlandermontgomery1524 2 жыл бұрын

@@Bruhs246 Eating meat, and especially meat from the animal agricultural system causes extreme suffering. Do plants suffer? Maybe but it's definitely not on the same level. And what about fruit? Fruit exists for the express purpose of eating. So there's that. According to the Vedas there is a way to eat meat that is acceptable. The way to do it is to promise your victim and know that this will come to pass, that they will get to kill you and eat you in the next life.

@gonzalo_rosae 5 жыл бұрын

I want to make the change, but the main problem is that my parents don't let me do it. Where can I find all the information of bad animal treats, environmental effects and, mainly, health benefits, all in a whole? I mean, is there a web page that contains all this information? Thank you so much in advance.

@kaffeekuchen1929 5 жыл бұрын

I am so glad you did this!!!

@nylcoon264 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you Mic! You are literally saying everything I was thinking! I'm so disappointed with this video they posted I really looked up to thier videos and when I watched this I was shocked and so upset with the information they presented and I'm glad someone brought the true facts to the surface. So thank you!

@keithh23 5 жыл бұрын

I also felt the same disappointment with a couple of "Adam Ruins Everything" videos. You think that they are supplying you with good information until they talk about something you already know.

@Mari.1918 5 жыл бұрын

Me too, literally my love for science started with kurzgesagt.

@bagiee1 5 жыл бұрын

The system fights back with fancy videos to skew public opinion.

@keithh23 5 жыл бұрын

All they have to do is prove a little doubt. It could be done with misleading studies or just making up stuff that sounds convincing.

@lisreutiman9602 5 жыл бұрын

I swear that kurzgesagt video triggered me so much I had to stop watching it - SO glad you made a response

@georgexanthopoulos3003 5 жыл бұрын

This kind of attitude is exactly what's wrong with the vegan movement and any other movement, imho. It's unhealthy to 'get triggered'. Try educating people if you think you have the necessary info, instead of trying to shove stuff down their throars and chastising them for having a different view.

@angelomarcelino_ 4 жыл бұрын

Just because you're triggered doesn't mean you're right

@AmiMelaine 5 жыл бұрын

I love your videos. This is no exception. Thank you for educating and entertaining!

@angeliquea9557 5 жыл бұрын

OMG thank you!! I had watched it and almost posted a long ass reply in the comments but changed my mind cos no one would have read it haha I haven’t even watched your vid yet..just know it’s aboutta be facts ✔️

@christopherkinnaird2881 5 жыл бұрын

Thank you! I was watching this with my girlfriend and I was so upset. Glad you ripped em a new one!!

@hereb4theend 5 жыл бұрын

Don't be ridiculous. Vegans can't have sexual partners. Stop pretending.

@christopherkinnaird2881 5 жыл бұрын

@@seani6563 The kind whose heart functions optimally.

@christopherkinnaird2881 5 жыл бұрын

@@hereb4theend lol

@zain4019 5 жыл бұрын

Sean I Classic incel response that rejects emotion and compassion for others. I hope you see the power and beauty of love and kindness one day. Good luck.

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

I love meat

@shivaslilgsunlimited7507 5 жыл бұрын

“People love hearing good news about their bad habits”

@nwfyandex 4 жыл бұрын

It ain,t a bad habit, we have evolved to eat meat.

@MrYulienskate 4 жыл бұрын

because they're good news..?

@shivaslilgsunlimited7507 4 жыл бұрын

@@nwfyandex We evolved to be survivors. We essentially evolved to eat opportunistically and we also evolved to crave the most nutrient dense foods available because we weren't always able to eat as much as we wanted whenever we wanted. We are not meant to be carnivores because we have to cook the meat in order for it to not poison us.

@guest1688 4 жыл бұрын

our ancestors have eaten meat for thousands of years and there is no way i am going to quit it for some shitty diet where i can end up malnourished

@bleederboss 3 жыл бұрын

Guest 1 if you get malnourished is because you are not doing it properly, and that is try with most healthy diets. If you can’t do that I don’t really mind dude you’re probably dying with that kind of reasoning, you know what our ancestors did also slaving maybe we should go back to that right my chubby fam?

@asharflo 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for another great video! Can you do a video on the Gaps protocol? Some ex-vegan KZfaqrs are citing this protocol and its founder as their truth.

@skinnymcdibbens9698 5 жыл бұрын

So glad you did this vid.

@celestegil4912 5 жыл бұрын

Ugh, when I was watching this video I was so confused and upset. Usually kurgs does a great job at presenting good information, but I totally sensed something was wrong when he continued to say that meat had no bad effects , and that fish is healthy? I'm sure they know about cholesterol and how much of a carcinogen meat is, as well as micro-plastics and mercury. I was really shocked when he didn't mention any of that. Thank you so much mic for explaining all of the logic leaps and more!

@spartanstunting5247 5 жыл бұрын

I get upset too when something goes against my confirmation bias.

@yingyang1008 5 жыл бұрын

What's wrong with cholesterol?

@spartanstunting5247 5 жыл бұрын

@@yingyang1008everything, it's a toxic compound that immediately kills you

@yingyang1008 5 жыл бұрын

Were you triggered by the bad man's hate speech?

@zaco-km3su 5 жыл бұрын

Kurgs does a good job. He did this time too. He posted a response here. Mick didn't pin it.

@nidusyaldabaoth2428 5 жыл бұрын

I was waiting for you to cover this and you never disappoint. I didn’t make it through their video past two minutes for me to roll my eyes and turn it off.

@Mountainlion118 3 жыл бұрын

Lol mayby go watch it before you judge it was a good video

@nidusyaldabaoth2428 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mountainlion118 Didn’t need to because I saw the common uneducated remarks about the human diet.

@Mountainlion118 3 жыл бұрын

@@nidusyaldabaoth2428 what?

@nidusyaldabaoth2428 3 жыл бұрын

@@Mountainlion118 yup

@berkay6947 2 жыл бұрын

Because you are delusinal my friend. You can't take unbiased truths.

@laureltaylor5099 2 жыл бұрын

Aracnidonic acid too (sp?)- love you , you rock!

@rowan2747 5 жыл бұрын

thank you so much seriously you are amazing :)

@DavidPowell 5 жыл бұрын

Love hearing all the points I was yelling at my screen watching their video :D

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

In a nutshell is better than this channel because they say when they make mistakes but mic the vegan is just trying to say vegans are above everyone else

@guidopertusati4348 2 жыл бұрын

40 seconds in the video: " they didn't link articles in the description" that is not true!! there's a very long and well organized page with all the sources. "mic the vegan" ( which i don't know at all) is either lying on purpose to make his arguments stronger or is not capable if reading a description. In any case for me is impossible to take seriously a person like this and i am going to look for information elsewhere

@Tara-uw3lu 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for this video! When I first watched the Kurzgesagt video I was so disappointed in it. I kept on saying there is so much data and other good studies supporting that meat is harmful. I was shocked with the biasness of the video. Good response video!

@Pavel_Franta 5 жыл бұрын

Can anyone write a brief result of 20 minutes video? Is it bad or not? Thank you

@FaunoDufaux 5 жыл бұрын

They completely missed the point, advocating for people to hurt themselves once a week, and personified chickens as if they enjoyed being the number 1 "best" animal to die for taste pleasure.

@thepinoz 5 жыл бұрын

@Jay Blake, dude. "if you want meat and are concerned about your health go for chicken" "if you feast on meat once or twice a week you should be good" "all in all, in moderation meat is not unhealthy" *picture of chicken with '1st' sticker on chest at photoshoot + magazine covers for being the healthiest ... i think the comment above has a point. youu, on the other hand, aren't really making one are you

@arnigeir1597 4 жыл бұрын

@@thepinoz They did allot of research and found out meat is fine for you in moderation even tho most people eat way too much of it and in bad quality, you are welcome to prove that unprocessed meat twice a week has a measurable negative effect on your health.

@thepinoz 4 жыл бұрын

I'm sure a lot of things are "fine" in moderation. If not eating it is better or the same then pass me the broccoli and let's not deforest, hurt and kill animals, pollute our rivers etc. @@arnigeir1597 not sure why you are addressing this to me. My comment is made of quotes from the video and addressed to Jay Blake..

@arnigeir1597 4 жыл бұрын

@@thepinoz it's not specific, it's addressing the equating of eating animals to self harm or smoking. meat has allot of benefits as a food source, even if most people eat too much of it and in bad quality. It's just annoying to see some religious claim on every issue, regardless of proof and no other arguments at the table.

@GrassWarlock1 5 жыл бұрын

Great video. Kurzgesagt DID link the sources though. It's in a google doc (second link in the disc).

@vectorohyeah1163 3 жыл бұрын

I have a question if you do have a dog do you feed him/ her meat

@echtnietjaifi 5 жыл бұрын

Yeyyy was waiting for this

@andrewp3358 5 жыл бұрын

After his video, I wonder how much research he did on his other videos 🤔

@lucasbleyle5015 5 жыл бұрын

His animal agriculture one was solid based on what I know, but yeah it had me wondering about the validity of some of the other videos on topics I don't know much about

@Len1977gt 5 жыл бұрын

Kurz videos are all garbage, did you ever see his alien ones?