Is Wave Link REALLY The Voicemeeter Alternative We Need?
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@nuttylmao 2 жыл бұрын
What do you guys think of... of... You know what? We all know I'm just trying to farm engagement. Just like the video dude, do you know how long it took me to make those diagrams? I could have been doing anything. Like eating a salad. Except salads are gross. Eww. Gimme flaming hot cheetohs. That's where it's at.
@lx130 2 жыл бұрын
Ayyy glad to see this vid coming excited to see it.
@vyledust1 2 жыл бұрын
Just a little heads up, and maybe I missed it, but a Wave 1/3 is not the only way to use the software. WaveXLR would work too and that could turn any existing mic into a Wave style controlled one. Wave 1 is still the cheapest, but there is another option.
@lucaspmedina 2 жыл бұрын
here some engagement for you
@mikeyTversus 2 жыл бұрын
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@Neko-of-winter 2 жыл бұрын
if only i didnot need a wave mic to use this app cuz i was going to use it to play music in vrchat becase i hate useing voice metter for it
@elgato 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Nutty! We’re going to send you a Wave Link alpha with VST support. It’s pretty awesome!
@kdvicious1 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate putting that work in! Looking forward to that update
@MarikTF 2 жыл бұрын
Oh my god I want to test that too
@TehBrownie 2 жыл бұрын
How about Elgato offer your Wave Software for free if or if not bought a Wave Mic and allow it to support all mics.
@Maradnus 2 жыл бұрын
you going to sell wavellink as a standalone? Ill pay for that all day but I don't want replace my 1k mic.
@TehBrownie 2 жыл бұрын
@@Maradnus 1000% Am not replacing my Interface and 500 dollar mic for some USB Scuffed setup. But would be willing to try the routing software
@MikhaelJames 2 жыл бұрын
You taught us how to use VM so well that I fell in love with it and can't see myself leaving it for anything other than a physical mixer interface. VM is amazing and FREE!
@probablypablito 2 жыл бұрын
my problem is it doesn't auto switch to my headphones when i plug them in, which makes it annoying.. aside from that its amazing!
@Buttery_Twitch 2 жыл бұрын
You can connect a Korg nanokontrol 2 with VM and its great. I dont think I could go back to regular VM (without the korg) or switching to a new software. VM+Korg is just so damn useful.
@victomasello 2 жыл бұрын
@@probablypablito it should! under the "virtual input" colum, make sure "A1" & "A2" are checked.
@aleeoid3410 2 жыл бұрын
11:11 Get back to work James.
@anarchyfork2676 2 жыл бұрын
It is donationware for VM Potato though. It's annoying having your audio stopped and being nagged to donate every six hours and waiting 10 seconds for it to function normally again, but before I actually donate, I want to see if there are any better alternatives out there. I'm 14, not working yet, and worried about wasting the tiniest bit of money lmao
@wagonet 2 жыл бұрын
Was literally thinking of this and you did the video..I'm so happy to see you getting sponsored. You got the best stream content around
@MyNameIsEarl42 2 жыл бұрын
Knowing if the "nutty way" existed or not was what was keeping me on the fence about this mic. THANK YOU! I need to keep some channels off of the VOD for editing purposes, so a mic that gives me multiple virtual devices that I can choose to NOT bundle into a single source in OBS is absolutely worth the extremely minor fidelity differences in it's price class (which can be a preference anyway)
@TheKolorlessKingz Жыл бұрын
With the NUTTY method, can you still mute music on your end temporarily but not for the stream? Like if I need to listen to footsteps In game but stream doesn’t. Then unmute again afterwards.
@kopfschuss881 2 жыл бұрын
Answered all of my questions. Thanks!
@youbetchabrian5332 2 жыл бұрын
What I'd like Elgato to update on Wave Link is a setting feature where you can set "markers" on the volume bars of each audio source so I can quickly go back and forth between my favorite volume settings during certain parts of my streams, cause sometimes I forget how soft or how loud I had a volume setting configured on a certain audio source since I'm always changing the volume depending on circumstances and sometimes I need to go back to what it was set at before so I'm always troubleshooting that when this happens.
@ThatNerdyClark 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a stream deck or equivalent macro? On stream deck you can setup a db level button. We use this for different scenes. Setup as -10db or +20 db. With one click the vol will change. Make it a toggle switch and it will go back and forth.
@beyondfitness1770 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I went and got a wave 3 in the Black Friday sale and can’t wait to play about with it now
@ruzaqir354 2 жыл бұрын
man seriously u deserve more subs and view.. this is golden. Thx for showing us good video
@MoreBreezy Жыл бұрын
Just decided to buy one of these and came here to see how to set it up thank you G
@ravenoftheredsky 2 жыл бұрын
Very smart suggestions at the end, nut
@macapsu 11 ай бұрын
I love how you give awesome info AND make me laugh with all your little jokes. Love your work
@f2bacon 2 жыл бұрын
i cant already envision the thumbnail for when elgato adds vst support your face doing the tim and eric mind blown face, and the caption on the video says "THEY FINALLY DID IT" and you know i'll watch it
@donpalaisy6796 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! One key feature VoiceMeeter offers for the dual pc streamer is the ability to vban audio between the 2 pcs, but not a deal breaker for most users... The only question I have regarding the comparison between Voicemeeter and the Wave Mixer is which of the 2 uses the least amount of system resources?
@MysticNinjaSoul 2 жыл бұрын
I have the wave 3, love it
@ThatNerdyClark 2 жыл бұрын
We love the Wavelink. You mentioned switching monitoring devices I may have a solution. There is a stream deck plug in that allows one click audio output source changing. It is called audio output switcher, I know shocker 🤣. Hope this helps
@christopherbochmann7285 2 жыл бұрын
Adding another or as many as you want Monitor and Stream Mixes is an awesome idea! Also hate it so much to go into my wave link software to change it from headphones to speakers and change it later back.
@yasmingirl17 2 жыл бұрын
Opening cinematic is nutty!
@maires305 2 жыл бұрын
Your honesty is so much appreciated. Voicemeeter hurts my brain.
@tobiasgugger2268 2 жыл бұрын
Great video of alternative use.
@fifthnail 2 жыл бұрын
We just started using Voicemeeter, not convinced yet I need a Wave and mixing software. Stream Deck is still light years ahead of anything else. Keep innovating Elgato! Thank you!!!
@Alphabouse 2 жыл бұрын
I manage a twitch channel for my gf. We were very used to using voicemeter with a stream deck and blue yeti. But recently purchased a wave 3 for a cheap alternative to higher quality mics and mixing boards. There were a few hills to climb, but the worst part was having to start from square 1 after using voicemeter for so long! So honestly, hold out with voicemeter unless you REALLY need to make the switch.
@AngelzWings Жыл бұрын
With the updates that wavelink have now like the filters in application, do you think it's worth the switch from voicemeeter potato? I'm considering it as I have a wave mic already and really would like to streamline the process/make it easier.
@dankspanktv 2 жыл бұрын
That part talking about muting your friend talking about 'how amazing their weekend was' was hilarious, bro. I literally lol'd
@computergeek3407 2 жыл бұрын
Can sound effects be routed thru this mic? please advise! Great vid by the way!
@JJtoob 2 жыл бұрын
Friendly reminder to streamers that using VOD audio channel to play copyrighted music while live doesn't mean you couldn't get your channel struck, but since most of us little people are unlikely to get in trouble, all we get is segments of our VODs muted, and thus, separating the music can at least make your VOD completely viewable thanks to not getting muted, but understand that the violation of copyrights still happened, and you can theoretically still get in trouble for it.
@QuintilianA 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I have the wave 3 and as you were saying I really would love another monitor slot added since I have an external AMP and DAC for my headphones and speakers and it is annoying to have to switch around.
@juicy9592 2 жыл бұрын
How can you listn to your muc without delay on the dac?
@AlbertStewart 2 жыл бұрын
Great content incoming. As someone that used Voicemeeter for a while before finally buying a Wave 3, the main thing Elgato is missing is VST support.
@kdvicious1 2 жыл бұрын
💯, I was just having this conversation. If Elegato could just give us VST support, their software would become a welcomed replacement for VM. But until then, I'm just looking forward to what Beacn will give us with their mic 👀
@thesandmanks 2 жыл бұрын
I also wish Wave Link offered something similar to VBAN for multi PC streaming.
@elgato 2 жыл бұрын
Wave Link update with VST support is being tested in alpha right now! We'll be reaching out with more detail soon 👀
@PixWizardryAI 2 жыл бұрын
@@elgato now I am hooked! Will be a game changer!
@brogers_ Жыл бұрын
I have had mine for some time now, it's insanely good.
@sujithjoyabraham Жыл бұрын
This is excellent Nutty! Quick question for you. Now that VST’s are supported in Wavelink, do their effects (ex. noise suppression) get passed thru to OBS when you add the wavelink channel to the OBS scene (as opposed to the consolidated stream)?
@SeanLake3D Жыл бұрын
Dude you're hilarious! You remind me of my friend Jet O. Loved this stream. Keep em coming.
@MisterMoonDog 2 жыл бұрын
nutty ~ How would this setup work with a 2 PC (gaming & streaming rig) setup? Specifically, how can you output back to the gaming rig for in-game or discord?
@lokii7910 2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. I love the simplicity of wave link against Voicemeeter. But as some others pointed out. I wont sell my microfone just to make use of this good looking advanced driver with UI for the Wave series. an additional monitor as nutty said, and an angled plug in at the side or to the side for cable management would be nice. back is better than bottom, i agree with that, but as nutty showed in the beginning u hit it with the frame above a specific angle.
@Dawz3G 2 жыл бұрын
I think 99% of people use more of the VM features than you realize lol. It's just so nice to have that flexibility. Having to buy a wave mic just to use the software also is an immediate nope. AT-2020 here, never turning back.
@DeosPraetorian 2 жыл бұрын
Well now there's a wave XLR that you can use it with
@Dawz3G 2 жыл бұрын
@@DeosPraetorian wave xlr can be used with any mic or you still need to use the elgato mic?
@DeosPraetorian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dawz3G you can use other mics.
@DeosPraetorian 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dawz3G it's basically a budget GO XLR but with the wave link software
@egx2236 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I thought OBS also allows you to do the same thing as Wave Link. Is there a way to make OBS behave like Wave Link?
@thesandmanks 2 жыл бұрын
I wish WaveLink offered multi track recording. Where you could record each individual input at the same time, so in post production you have a clean signal for each audio input. I know you can do that in OBS, but that would allow for the individual audio capture vs “the nutty way”.
@LadyNinjaGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Wish it was available for other mics, other than the Wavelink, but I think I got Windows mixer to do what I need to do at the moment for my setup, and it works
@REDlikeBERRIES 2 жыл бұрын
is there a way to use this from a 2 PC stream set up? i have to use voicemeter to get the proper inputs/outputs from game PC?
@yasmingirl17 2 жыл бұрын
I just bought the AT2020 and Scarlett 2i2 for content creation and making music. Wave link looks so good, here’s hoping you can use it with non-Elgato products 😆
@austinennis1124 2 жыл бұрын
Can this be used as a way to use multiple microphones for recording on the elgato hd60 s capture card?
@yeetxd2890 2 жыл бұрын
do you need the mic to use the software?
@articlegaming0016 2 жыл бұрын
about how great your friends weekend was! LOL
@prototype42 2 жыл бұрын
Great vidéo. One question, i use midi device for controlling voicemeeter and things like that. What about usb midi device ? Wavelink support it ? Ok that's two questions.
@Yaslanagrey 2 жыл бұрын
So the PCPanel for control and you’re good to go?
@MichaelDaniels 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to have multiple chrome browser windows split out on two channels?
@plutootie 2 жыл бұрын
was actually wondering about the audio in obs and if it was possible to separate them since i might not wanna have certain audio in some highlights. guess ill follow the nutty way 🤔
@richd379 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video how to use the wave with a dual PC setup?
@ryarchy Жыл бұрын
Can you use Wavelink and OBS for a dual PC setup?
@papaghosty8304 2 жыл бұрын
Ur cracked bro
@TuhoeTaniwha 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid bro , Sheeple comment for the farming effort , keep it up , thanks
@victomasello 2 жыл бұрын
when adding the microphone (box 1) into my obs like you do @10:55 , i don't see an option for "Wave 1". would it be "Mic in" even though i named it Microphone?
@techtaxi7283 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using the nutty method for goxlr audio setup in obs months... Desktop Audio 1 is GOXLR System Desktop Audio 2 is GOXLR Music (removing it from channel 2 and channel 2 is my twitch vod track) Mic 1 GoXLR Broadcast stream mix Mic 2 GoXLR Chatmic so I can give more care to where the audio level is inside my stream for my mic.
@TheRockyXK 11 ай бұрын
Question, can I use a 3rd party mic with the wave link software?
@HiroiiSekaii 2 ай бұрын
Elgato Wave link vs vs Steelseries Sonar? Which one do you recommend more, sir Nutty?
@The44sasquatch 2 жыл бұрын
Yooo, any way you could test to see if you can have a non UVC capture card as an input for Wave Link? Specifically the 4k60 pro mk.2 if you've got it.
@jessikatme 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Nutty method but on double , that way one audio goes to stream other to monitor all in order to be controlled with touch portal in a similar way that stream deck does that way I can set the volumen in each escene
@randomyawn5705 2 жыл бұрын
Can you use this for a dual pc setup?
@jamesfarmer5967 2 жыл бұрын
i'm honestly surprised no ones went in and tried to modify the installer for the wave link software to try and get it to ignore the check that it uses to see if you have a wave mic pluged in
@abdulsalam32x 2 жыл бұрын
I have a goxlr mini and I love it, but I feel they don’t update it regularly, I’m not sure it needs updates but there is always room for improvement.
@dLiew14 2 жыл бұрын
the joints on my samson mba48 are VERY stiff, any tips to smoothen the movement?
@azemnite 2 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to break this down so it goes to two different headsets??
@johnv9854 2 жыл бұрын
Nutty, You can set a Stream Deck button to switch back and forth between monitor mix and headphone sounds... super simple!
@yMeMoo 2 жыл бұрын
How come no mention of the Wave XLR? It lets you use any XLR mic and it uses the Wave Link software as well.
@CSGamingNow-CSGN 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always great. Love your dorky jokes. If you haven’t already, I’d like to see you make a video with wave link AND goxlr. I have both and it can get REALLY confusing. Like, should I set up the wave link first, and then plug in my GOXLR? Right now everything works, but it doesn’t seem very organized. Plus, if for some reason I have to I plug a usb source and plug it back in, then it really confuses the system. Lol thanks. Keep up the great work.
@thevtecollector4715 2 жыл бұрын
Any idea why wavelink not saving settings (browser game Spotify etc) after windows restart ? I installed mine few days ago and settings keep resetting upon win10 reboot, reinstalled it and still not working.
@carlitosplayss 2 жыл бұрын
Is it possible to use it without a wave mic?
@Ldragosasuke 2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, I took your advice and brought the mic and I love it so far. I can't figure out how to split the audio tracks for recordings though. Would it be possible you could make a video or reply to explain how to get separate audio tracks for recorded videos in OBS, please.
@Ldragosasuke 2 жыл бұрын
I was able to separate them for streams but recording, I can't seem to figure it out, any advice would be fantastic!
@mg24-daniel17 2 жыл бұрын
wait but the problem is that the wave link only works with the wave 1 mic right?
@williamfogiatto6187 2 жыл бұрын
Do you know if we can use it with Cantabile? because i need it to use vst plugins on my microphone and the only software i know it works together, is Voicemeeter. Wich is ok for me, but i like try new software.
@MattAaron90 2 жыл бұрын
You should be able to pull the mic into any program by itself, outside the Wave Link mix. I've got a Wave XLR and I'm able to at least. It's how I add processing to my mic in obs. I pull the mic in separately by itself and mute it in the Wave Link mix.
@DeepKnawledge Жыл бұрын
hi have a question, my probleme = Wave 3 Mic connected to pc and the pc is connected to my ps5 but the ps5 chat can't hear me on ps5, is there a way to hear my Wave Mic? but not with discord. pls help thank you
@prod.hallow 2 жыл бұрын
The VST beta is out. I bought a WaveXLR so I'm hoping this will mitigate having to route my mic to fl studio to add plug-ins onto my voice.
@boomerbuck 2 жыл бұрын
nutty, im having a big issue separating the music sound from the game sound, both go through chrome browser. making it impossible for me to control them separately. right at the moment i thought the video would reveal my answer you couldnt find it either. please help me figure this out. your content is amazing as always
@nuttylmao 2 жыл бұрын
Win Capture Audio plugin may help you. Search "win-capture-audio v2.2.1-beta"
@victoriamai6262 2 жыл бұрын
Heyy! Can anyone help? When I Set my audio separately in OBS with the input and output sources the wave link app seems to lose control of the audio. @nutty
@Mr.P3rsonMan 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on advanced scene switcher?
@irresistible7756 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is excellent except that I can't use my wireless headset with wave link without a frustrating delay, I can use it wired but it will lose the modification (SteelSeries GG)
@JamesDavisMakes 2 жыл бұрын
You calling out "James" really freaked me out for a second lmao
@thetexassaint528 2 жыл бұрын
will they ever make the wave link program to use with other xlr's mics that people already own?
@thetexassaint528 2 жыл бұрын
wait i just realize we can do this with thier new waveXLR
@martincook7543 2 жыл бұрын
Built a new i9 STRIX Z690 and cannot get VM to work without massive clipping and popping. VM sort of worked on my old setup with a few pops n clicking, new PC its all the time. I've reinstalled VM twice following your setup guide. Tried splitting inputs on WDM, KS, MME still the same. Tried increasing the buffering no better. Spent a week researching and trying to fix the VM crackling which is now constantly happening. I cba to restart the audio engine every 5 seconds when also trying to play and stream. Not willing to bin my mic so looking for an alternative that works :(
@Buttery_Twitch 2 жыл бұрын
This seems good, but having VoiceMeeter work with my Korg nanokontrol 2 and having VBAN is just way too important for me. Sure VM does have its problems but once you get used to how it works and can look past some of its flaws its amazing.
@diggin4thepony 2 жыл бұрын
My name is James. I was watching this video during work. Now I'm freaked out.
@blakepace 2 жыл бұрын
What's with the bandaid on your finger?
@NanoNutrino 2 жыл бұрын
If you had two moniter mixes, wouldn't you need mic jacks?
@TheKolorlessKingz Жыл бұрын
With the NUTTY method, can you still mute music on your end temporarily but not for the stream? Like if I need to listen to footsteps In game but stream doesn’t. Then unmute again afterwards. Can all this be controlled in the wavelink software?
@nuttylmao Жыл бұрын
Yes, this is possible.
@PraxiisL 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, I'm a bit late, but I've been having a pretty annoying issue with wave link : every game I set in the game channel (or any channel, for that matter) has a really noticeable audio delay between what I can see and what I hear. The weird thing is that this only happens with games, and my Game Capture HD window (i use an HD60 Pro to play and do stuff on my consoles from my PC). Everything else works just fine. Does anyone know how to fix this :/ ? PS : Plugging my headphones directly into the microphone does fix that issue BUT it just can't power my headphones up enough so everything is crazy low and I can barely hear anything,. So, this is NOT an option
@LuChiNiDaDon 2 жыл бұрын
Can u use voice mod with it?
@RyanEllerbe 2 жыл бұрын
What about multiple pc set ups?
@who_is_marcus3517 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love if they had support for any microphone rather than being required to purchase the Wave Mic. As someone who doesn't have a GoXlr and uses a PC Panel and AT-2020, some software options would be nice to explore.
@Tandrew 2 жыл бұрын
Ironically just now made the same comment myself. I think that they are putting the price of the mic with the software. Because honestly the mic by itself why cheap is still kind of pricey for its Standalone features. And honestly Elgato is known for its hardware mixing with its software in most cases. It would be nice if they would make a version that gives access without the wave mics. Like a small fee or something since they clearly arent gonna for free.
@thetexassaint528 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing, but a light bulb went off.. they came out with thier own Wave XLR thats just like a go xlr in a way
@bryanbillings 2 жыл бұрын
They can't, the mic is the actual mixer, the Link software only controls the settings in the mic hardware. That's why the mic output on the back is zero latency.
@who_is_marcus3517 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanbillings false. The software and hardware do make less latency when combined, but the software is something that could be standalone in the same way as banana.
@who_is_marcus3517 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanbillings the mic has no mixing capabilities, as nutty said. You only have volume/gain control. It is not the mixer but any stretch of the imagination. It is a basic (decent) USB microphone that unfortunately is linked to good software that elgato is charging for via the mic. Grated, it is a decent mic for the money, but for those of us that want good software control of audio in the stream space and want something that isn't a GOXLR, it would be nice to have this option without buying the mic.
@NonaPrince 2 жыл бұрын
The nutty method is the actual problem solver! If its all bundled together than why even use the software, desktop audio does that only, which is the problem to start with
@wagonet 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the alpha gaming callout
@_whoateallthepies 2 жыл бұрын
Shame you can’t dock wave link into obs
@kieljiro4981 2 жыл бұрын
I just literally watched your VM video and set it up already then I see this. Bruh
@redpurple1035 2 жыл бұрын
i liked the video - time to think,.. should i buy it? 😃
@BOLL7708 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, the hardware is mandatory, and I use five outputs in VM Potato, I'll be hard pressed to transition 🤣 Interesting solution though, nice to see how it works.
@yenice3652 2 жыл бұрын
wtf do you use 5 outputs for
@BOLL7708 2 жыл бұрын
@@yenice3652 Edit: These are my current VoiceMeeter hardware outputs, I also use all three of the virtual ones in Potato. 1. USB Interface, for XLR mike and monitoring headphones 2. Wireless headphones 3. Audio DAC for speakers 4. Valve Index HMD 5. Bluetooth Soundcard for a Woojer Edge Vest V1: All my microphones in one output V2: Same but the default device in Windows so I can mute that in cames with always on VoIP V3: Combined microphones and TTS so people I stream with (that agree to it) can hear my chat TTS (this was my original response, due to me not checking the topic, but for anyone interested this is my recording tracks in OBS) it has increased with time, now even all six, to enable post show editing: 1. Full mix that goes out to stream 2. Only microphones 3. Only Discord VoIP 4. Only my TTS bot+other stream effects (monitoring) 5. Clean game feed 6. Possible soundtrack
@Thekiddmarley Жыл бұрын
I use Wave link in conjunction with Voicemeeter to be able to hear my audio from my headphones, speakers, iems and gaming headset
@vfx.katsuki2329 2 жыл бұрын
I wish i could be able to buy wave link. I just got a new mic and i tried voicemeeter multiple times but it always messes up my sounds. I would really spend money on that program bc it looks so simple and easy
@ArtumonGaming 2 жыл бұрын
If they added a EQ setup in it and make it a basic virtual version of the Goxlr I would think of trading mine goxlr for it well the elagto xlrwave at least
@EnzoZone 2 жыл бұрын
how about an update ..using vst in wavelink
@combo_banana3534 2 жыл бұрын
I've been using windows volume mixer but I'm looking for something better
@CoalitionGaming 2 жыл бұрын
Nutty i have a solution to accomplish what it is you want to try regarding the slider control. We need to talk!
@CastCooprsgaming Жыл бұрын
you asked here for the Stram deck plus. Now you have it
@Edwinvangent 2 жыл бұрын
Voicemeeter is by far the better choice all diferent sound sources from browser etc, you can now stream it too voicemeeter over your wifi and with virtual cable you can control every possible scenario whereever the sound source is in the worls as long it's connected with IP adres to the internet...That's the best gangster move from the dev's of voicemeeter
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