+Jeff Sartain You are welcome Jeff. Glad you enjoyed it. These are great rifles...

Thank you very much. That is a big compliment. Cheers

Thanks

I got one from some surplus outfit in Montreal in the mid 80's advertised as a VG.For VG I paid a $5 premium, It had all the German markings but was over stamped with the BIG 7.62 on the receiver and the stock. It shot way better than I could. I refinished the wood and put it way for my 5 yrs in Lahr. A young hunter wanted to go out with me and didn't have any money for a gun so I loaned it to him and he shot deer like crazy with it. Eventually because of bifocals I had mounts put on and scoped it. Well he shot even more deer with it. So I gave him the rifle. I don't miss it because most falls it is out killing whitetails and he loves it. So it was a win win win except for the deer. You are right they are a great shooting rifle. I don't think the surplus ones actually did much more than parade square work and the bores are great. Wish the weather had been nicer for that video. Someday do a followup with a buddy I like to see the plate rock. Thanks

Me too bro. I love my No4 enfields. This Israeli mauser is a really nice accurate shooter with a bloody past and as many enfields do, this rifle could very well have battle honours bestowed upon it.

People say that Mausers have "stronger actions", practically, what does that mean? I have fired tons of Enfields and have never had one blow up in my face, or know of one doing it in anyone elses face.

+Minute Man I think the Mauser is "over engineered". That's why they are the first choice when someone wants to rechamber them for higher pressure ammo. 300 Win Mag comes to mind. Other than that you're pretty much correct in that an Enfield would hold up just as well as a Mauser with the ammo they've been designed to shoot.

Lee Enfields will need to be regularly headspaced, the action will stretch with use while a mauser type action shot out to smoothbore (as seen even with heavy use) before the lockup goes. SMLE is going to be a greater logistical burden as more often they are going to have to be sent back to be worked over, it's hard to do this in the field as you need to try so many different bolt heads to get a good fit. Even if you can tolerate the accuracy degrading as headspace goes it's going to put more and more strain on the case, case head separations become much more likely. Overall the Lee Enfield action is safe enough but because the design is inherent weaker it is generally over built to compensate, hence Lee Enfields are typically much heavier than a front locking Mauser action for the same barrel length. In a sense it's the Lee Enfield which is over-engineered. Also compromise in power, 8x57mm is about 2700fps with 175-grain bullet while Mk VII .303 was 2440fps for the same weight bullet. While modern Lee Enfields can handle .308, modern mauser actions can handle .300 Win Mag. Overpressure events are going to be far more likely in the military as ammunition production is far tougher, ammo will be stored badly, round set deeper in rough transport and things like barrel obstructions from soldiers diving into mud to avoid being killed by bullets and bombs. Rear locking is generally easier, it's the most direct solution. But it causes a load of other little minor problems, and they may not actually be all that serious, but even British tried to move to a front locking rifle in 1913 before WW1 put a kibosh on those plans for a rifle they knew and could get in production.

Problem with the Enfield is rimmed ammo

Well, I would love this rifle in NATO, since it would be a great survival rifle, maybe just need a rail system for a scope, but besides that, one of the best survival rifles

@@literallydalegribble3875 I own one and I do plan on bringing it with me camping and backpacking sometime but the thing is heavy. That’s the big downside of it as a survival rifle

45 Dislikes - wow I never noticed that before. I suspect it is because they don't like Jewish people. Screw these 45 haters

@@Riflechair No. They just cannot handle that the Lee Enfield was the better WW2 bolt action service rifle and hate anyone who says otherwise. Mauser freaks are like that. 524 likers agree 12-1. Cheers

I think the 7.62 in the K98 Mauser is a perfect match. Yeah, the 8mm is cool and is the original caliber for it. But 7.62 was probably a heck of a lot easier for the Israeli government to acquire. Probably made more sense to go with the NATO round.

+Sanford Hoffman don't get me wrong I totally understand why they did it, and even today to shoot just for fun it's much more easy and convenient to get your hands on 7.62 NATO. It just looks like he's having a tough time operating the bolt which I've never seen with a regular 8mm.

+Eric L yeah. I get it. That's a bummer. I wonder if all the conversions are the same. I'd like one of those mausers though. Sticky bolt or not.

He was using steel cases ammo

You got the FN C1 clips to work in the Spanish? That's good to know... They won't work in these large ring mausers - I tried. Unfortunately I gave my 98 mauser clips to a very eager kid thinking I had more (wrong). Yes I have the steel cased ammo. Not sure the Israeli likes them very much. Had a few issues with cartridges popping out of the follower as if this was a push feed. The bolt simply wasn't grabbing them.

eaglemasterdan North West BC in fact

I saw a refurbished Israeli swp.45 Model 98 at collectorssource.com a few weeks ago. Pricey at $995 CDN but a gorgeous piece.

It's still there, a bit rich for my bank account right now unfortunately. I've posted this video to the Canadian Historical Arms Society facebook, hopefully that gets you a few more views. Maple Leaf Up!

@@DallasHuybregts I just picked one up for $50, I just knew it was a beat up mauser, no idea of all of the history. Got it taken down and cleaned yestrday, looking for ammo this weekend.

would you want to sell? I live in middle TN.

Just got your message. I want to keep the Israeli 98ks. The first from Fla had not been shot except my feeble shooting skill. The second is a treasure for all the wear it has been thourgh. Hope you find one that is in great shape ted in Murfreesboro.

You're warm Chad but I'm never giving out my secret location! From my cold dead hands! lol

I figure it's because the Arabs were coming and "It's good enough" . I sure like the K98 though although I think some mauser aficionados won't appreciate my enfield or mosin comments.

What is a fair price on one of these?

$600 for a nice (used but not abused) example would be fair to both parties. Heck Russian Captures are selling for more than that now here in Canada.

Sorry, meant the 7.62 Israeli.

I know

I did. I likely made my sight adjustment when the camera was off.

james koett WOW I've been getting pounded into the ground for advocating what you just said. Mauser enthusiasts don't like hearing the truth. I'm bleeding but still standing. Good to know I'm not alone.

Riflechair I personally prefer mauser but I agree that the lee Enfield mk4 solidly beats the mauser in the sighting department.

I want buy that, where u from

Yakf15h hes canadian i think

your a enfield hater get out

l give all my enfield away mauser all the way

Hi Luthtar. No I was referring to the Russian wartime mosins. I have owned a few Fin Nagants and they were 10X the rifle as these Russians however with a bit of tweeking I've found they can shoot very very good.

No not really - at least not here in Canada. I picked this Israeli up locally for a great price. It was certainly less expensive than a Russian Capture 98 however I don't think the guy knew what he had.

I advisable to use 308 Winchester brass in a 7.62 NATO chamber. Lots of people do it but they are taking risks and really hard on your brass if you reload. NATO chambers are slightly more generous and NATO brass has thicker case walls to compensate. It say it's probably OK if you don't run high pressure ammo... But still...

So far I have been buying Federal 7.62 x 51, at $20.00 a box, I need to get a hold of surplus. I have only been to the range a couple times with the Mauser. I have finally fixed problem with feeding, and next time out I'll fine tune front sight. Got rid of burr and smoothed out extractor. Smooth as silk now.

I've got a Lee Enfield Ishapore 2A. It's chambered in 7.62x51 NATO as well. People say you can shoot .308 from it but I must admit that it makes me nervous thinking about doing it. I've never heard of anyone having one blow up in their face but I really don't want to be the first. It's a highly debated subject for sure. I'll stick with 7.62x51 myself.

I have always looked for 7.62x51 as well. I'm going to see a fellow today about an ammo can full that he has for sale. Not sure of the manufacturer, but it is FMJ. He had a box of 20 for sale at $8.00, so I'm hoping to get the same type of price, He also has an M14 in the same calibre for sale as well. Norinco with wood stock.

Most .308 you buy is lower pressure than surplus 7.62x51 due to the smaller internal case dimensions of 7.62. As long as you don't run some crazy high power hunting ammo through them, .308 is fine

I saw a whole rack of 'm in Belgium at a gunshop.. 600 euros each.

No it's always raining

gb

Sounds like you have a weak follower spring or perhaps a burr in the magwell / follower that is preventing proper feeding. Should be a cheap fix - I'd start with the follower spring. Any 98 military mauser follower will work.

+Timberwolf1054 I agree the 1903A3 has great sights

They didnt they just rebarelled existing mausers

No matter which way you look at it - if you're working in the rain - you're going to get wet. I live in North West BC next to the Pacific. If I waited for good weather to go outside I'd never leave the house.

I live just down the coast on the island.

Felix Torres I'm sure they are for sale, however, i believe they're less common than the 8mm variant.

No - the std 196gr 8X57 .323" european load has more recoil. It really wakes you up.

@@Riflechair thanks you for answer and best regards from toronto...watch my Chanelle on KZfaq:brnokhan

not really - prices are a bit high for me

The 2A1 is a great rifle

I own a CZ Brno which is custom .308 heavy varmint

I am working on acquiring a No5Mk1. Found one that is an Indian refurb but is wearing a 2A1 butstock. Yep the Indians used what they had.

Definetly a good choice. I love these rifles too.

I have a Remington made P14 that shoots 1-2 MOA with just about anything I put in it.

Dancan Southroner WOW A very special family heirloom. Congratulations.

I think you're right. I was running copper washed steel cased 7.62 NATO and that stuff isn't easy to run fast. That steel seems overly abrasive and difficult to cycle IMHO

That would do it

There's some issues with worn extractors that cause weak contact with the ejector resulting in poor ejection. Usually if the last round extracts but doesn't eject it means there is a problem

Nope 24 is a bit different rifle. At first sight you can see the different top handguards. Also 24 has a straight lever and not the bent one.These are K98 models that were produced or left by the germans at the end of WW2 in Czechoslovakia. They were sold as surplus to Israel and remarked. Later when Israel run out of 8mm ammo and standardized on 7,62NATO they were rebareled.

@@hajanek1370 ik

@@hajanek1370 btw I forgot to pay attention at the bolt handle, thanks for reminding

+bluejay1611 Fairly uncommon in nice shape. Most of the examples I've seen were pretty beat up.

Thank you Riflechair! I wished there were more 7.62 Mauser kurtz available without having to deal with dwindling corrosive 8mm ammunition as well as having to buy more expensive cartridges that aren't corrosive.

​@@michaelbrooker1433 More good people died (and keep dying) at the hands of the Zionist Jews. If you don't know that, then it is you who are beneath contempt.