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I don’t mind either format but I hate the “if you’re not in the top, you’re in the bottom” twist, unless it’s the final competitive episode

Imagine if Detox had eliminated Alaska in AS2, that would have been a gag

It blows my mind how people get so upset about Manilla being "robbed" and Naomi not playing the game right but completely ignore that Manilla was willing to send home Monet over Latrice because they're friends even though Monet was doing better which is why MONET PICKED MANILLAS LIP STICK TOO

the fact that Naomi literally told Latrice right before the lip sync with her deep monotone chill voice not to worry just cracks me up how can someone be this iconic

The icing on the cake for that episode came at the start of the next one where Monét revealed she'd ALSO picked Manila lol

Naomi smalls is so iconic she broke not only 2 seasons but a whole format

It's crazy how far Drag Race has evolved because Naomi's makeover won her the challenge this episode while Ongina in Season 1 had a similar concept with a pretty good execution but was put in the bottom and ultimately eliminated, with the justification for her bottom placement being that they didn't like the masculine/feminine concept

It sucks that the toxic side of the fandom has made the queens themselves nervous to play the game how they want! It’s a competition of course queens are going to do whatever it takes to win that check and that crown

This makes me think about All Stars 2 quite a bit. In the episode prior to the finale, imagine Detox standing in front of the lipstick case, thinking to herself “I can win against Roxxy and Alyssa, but I can’t beat Alaska or Katya.” So if she truly wanted to win that crown, she would’ve sent Alaska home instead of Alyssa. I always wonder what would’ve happened in that scenario.

its interesting to think about how Pangina basically tried to do the same thing in UKVW by eliminating the front runner in Jimbo. But that just blew up in her face instantly being eliminated next week. It's interesting to see how both the "eliminating the frontrunner" strategy can both work and go completely wrong.

Naomi didn't destroy the All Stars format, she just used it to it's full potential.

Monique howling in the background as Naomi collapses in Snatch Game still sends me to this day

The cool thing is that being Manila’d/Pangina’d is probably literally the best thing that can happen to a queen.

"You are liar, and this is why Derrick don't like you" Iconic 14:18

This is what happens when you force social-based eliminations into a merit-based show. It's like trying to put a square peg into circular hole. Drag Race saw that people liked Survivor's social-based tribal counsels, but didn't think about how in a show where the best person is supposed to win, why would you ever want someone to eliminate anyone but the worst person?

Naomi gave us more than just fashion in AS4. She improved leaps and bounds!

Also Alaska always eliminates the queen with the better track record any chance she gets. Tatianna over Detox, Alyssa over Roxxxy and Katya, Tatianna over Roxxxy.

Maybe a Game Changers about Valentina's controversial Congeniality win changing it from a fan vote to voted on by the queens? Which is how the Miss Congeniality pageant concept is supposed to work, to be fair. I never realized it wasn't voted on by the contestants until recently, I thought S9 "fan favorite" was an aberration, and it was lol just not how I thought.

It’s also such an iconic moment because Naomi mentioned throughout the season that she’s been a huge fan of Manila ever since she was young so that set up the fan storyline where Naomi would be below Manila , kinda like Joslyn fox and Courtney act. So for Naomi to send her inspiration HOMEEEEE is so iconic and shows she is as much of an icon as Manilla is

When you realise the fan base only hate this episode and Naomi because of Manila being sent home, yet every season we always see ‘this is too boring! There’s no drama.’ Drag race is a double edged sword that most people aren’t ready to accept yet. Naomi Smalls eliminating front runners is a POWER MOVE, but she even had valid reasons to give Latrice (you kept me, I’m keeping you) just a shame she had to experience such hate after it.

Thank you for reminding us Monet had Manila’s lipstick too. I think Manila just didn’t have a great social game that season, unfortunately.

so many people hate this episode and it’s actually one of the lowest rated drag race episodes on imdb, but i honestly think its one of the best all stars episodes. it has everything you want, a good challenge, an amazing lipsync and drama. people only dont like it cause manila was eliminated but that was one of the best moments. manila wasnt robbed cause naomi used the format.

I mean, I’m surprised to hear that you don’t understand why queens might prefer to be less ruthless. They make their living off their fanbases, and those fanbases can turn highly toxic on a dime. Queens have suffered horrific harassment post-season due to mishaps from the show. The queens are also peers and sometimes friends in the same industry - winning a season at the cost of your reputation is risky, and might not be beneficial in the long term.

The thing with this format is that, ultimately, the ones who end up losing are us. Never mind who deserves or doesn't deserve to win, having only the very best go all the way has always been satisfying in regular seasons because we got the opportunity to see the top shine and give us stellar performances. With this All Winners season, we are having the chance to enjoy a drama-free season that is focused entirely on the talents of each contestant, and what a joy it has been. Now, with the format where a queen gets eliminated because she is the best but didn't win the challenge that episode is just tiresome. We have had queens who won entire seasons with just 1 win on their belts, so seeing Manila not winning after collecting multiple wins and being the clear front runner feels disappointing. We wanted to see more of her, because she is entertaining and deserved the spotlight. Same goes with Bendela on All Stars 3. She eliminated herself, but she only did that because she didn't enjoy eliminating others. In my opinion, the only season where this format kind of worked was All Stars 2, but All Stars 2 was entirely packed with talent, unlike the other seasons.

Honestly though, she had to choose between a strong competitor who she claimed to be a long time fan of and someone who she might have felt in debt to. Either person that she could have chose would have been considered “shady”

Naomi derailed both seasons she was on… a true icon

I wish that the show were more able to edit big game moments like Naomi eliminating Manila, Blu eliminating Pangina, Pangina eliminating Jimbo into bigger narratives. Like on Survivor, huge blind sides are part of the fun of watching, but then in All Stars, you just have to watch the rest of the show without one of the strongest queens in it to make it more entertaining. I don't know how Drag Race could try to incorporate that or mitigate the loss of strong players, but I'm interested to see them keep trying.

Feels like I talk about Roxxxy so much in this community, and I know that's probably not enough for a video, but we know she was a game changer in terms of lip syncs with her wig reveal

I don’t know if the idea is still up in the air, but a while back in one of your polls you wanted to make a video on Liv Lux vs. Utica and how both paved their way trying to win Miss Congeniality. I’d love to see that video come to fruition.

Trixie KNEW that this would happen to Naomi. Before that Pit Stop episode she always advised that you are playing a game in and out of the show. The long game is winning more fans on the outside. Sometimes, the fans will react positively to a decision like Naomi's but I know a lot of people that did NOT take it well. (Granted, most of those people are Asian, like myself, and Manila's elimination meant that we were, yet again, not getting an Asian queen.)

I just wanted to say that I really think you make the best and most creative drag race content on KZfaq. I really love this format and while many people talked about this iconic moment of the show you put a different perspective on it

I understand the strategy around sending Manila home and that she had a high chance of getting sent home by someone else, but man did it still break my heart. She’s very successful even without a crown, but I was so excited to see her win. 🇵🇭

i love this new series so much already and i cant wait to see which other queens you highlight!!! an amazing video as always!!❤️❤️

I’m confused why you stated with Naomi because Gia opened so many doors for people

Didn’t Naomi and Monet say that Naomi during the Imrpov challenge actually slayed Manilla but was heavally EDITED to make it seem that she didn’t do THAT well. It actually shows you that they again didn’t thought to her be that amazing.

i hope you're going to keep on this series, it is awesome!

You really have the RPDR content we all need..seriously, Im so grateful to you for all your hard work and dedication, as I'm sure many others are as well! COME THUR Jack 🥰

I really feel like the Top 2 All Stars format could have been so much more interesting if it never had the pretence of fairness. Queens can play strategically and it still ends up being fair most of the time because queens like Pangina and Alexis prove why gunning for front-runners can easily backfire, but it adds so much more suspense to know that if a queen is smart about it and wins at the right time she can flip the script.

I just wanna point out something very quickly. In the beginning of the season, I believe Naomi should’ve been top 2 in ep 2 alongside Monet, and she also should’ve had a top spot for the Jersey Justice ep. I think, just like Jack pointed out so clearly, they just wanted to give her a rudemption arc and that’s it. Clearly Valentina, Mo, Monet, Trin and Manila were the ones reeeeeaaaaally considered for the crown.

I think one problem I have with the “send the best home” is that if it’s a season like UKVSTW, when the top 2 queens get sent home back to back while filler queens are left the crowning doesn’t feel as justified. Dgmw I love blu and with that top 4 she was the right choice

People hate on AS4 for Naomi ✨ACTUALLY✨ playing the game. People say they want drama, shade, and twists until it impacts their fave. But then look at S13 and 14 and how annoyed everyone was at the lack of eliminations? Multiple queens have said that if you send the best home, you beat them and Naomi did that! It sucked to see Manila go home, but how interesting and shocking was it to see a contestant say "I'm going to send home the best" and then actually do it?? Naomi is up there with Ben De La for subverting expectations and giving us good TV.

Great series concept! It’s really nice to see a fresh approach to RPDR analysis

I just don’t get why people sent her so much hate for this , it’s a competition . The whole “I wanna be at the top with the best” is something ridiculous the queens always say , if I was fighting to win , I’m removing the biggest obstacle (biggest competition)

i mean manila was doomed regardless because monet chose her too lol

7:53 THANK YOU!!! People are easily oblivious to a couple of things to Naomi eliminating Manila: -Latrice had saved Naomi's ass from elimination last week and sent Valentina home instead. Naomi could've as well been perceived as "ungrateful" for chopping the queen who was her saving grace the week prior (irregardless of being the comeback queen, having the most bottoms and allat). -Monét also had Manila's lipstick, Manila would've gone home that episode one way or another word to Blondie.

Game Changers seems like a great new series, can’t wait for more videos!

She really was the only one who dared to do this, in fact I believe that it's a shame that Katya didn't try to pull Alaska's lipstick in the makeover, she messed up the most and was the frontrunner, giving you a justification and reason. Monet tried to hide behind not trusting her and her wanting to save Latrice. She was clearly just saving her skin. Naomi was honest and said it how it was. It was also incredibly smart, because it was in the late game, giving you few opportunities for backlash, a mistake Morgan and Pangina made. On top of a likely winner of the next challenge bragging about being fair, while you keep a weaker contestant in for her to eliminate. It was pure genious.

She really was a game changer because after she eliminated Manila, a lot did not continue watching the season. Monet's win was questionable as well.

I love this series, i can't wait to see whos gonna come next! I'm guessing Dela, Sasha Velour, Roxxxy Andrews and maybe Pangina and/or Adore would be in this series

I love and enjoy your videos so soo much ❤️ Don't stop

I love gaggy eliminations. I literally mourned manila and pangina’s elimination but I think I don’t want it any other way.

Honestly, as much as I love Manila and wanted her to win All Stars 4, Naomi did what she had to do and I've always respected her for that. And I agree with Heidi, that beating the best doesn't have to mean beating them at the end, cos if you send them home when you get the chance, you've beaten them! But I think production saw the chance to give Manila an Alaska moment (bottom in the makeover as their only weak moment of the season) and didn't think Naomi (or Monet) would take advantage of that situation since no one had before.

Monet would have eliminated Manila as well so, as is the case with that season in general. Manila is really the iconic game-changer just for being such a threat that she guaranteed her own elimination.

Thanks for this video! Apt insights!

I remember watching this episode with my roommate when it first came to Netflix. I had already seen it and knew what was going to happen and her Reaction was iconic. One of the few real moments from her.

I always felt Naomi was overlooked and that she was much more a star and made more waves than people gave her credit for. I'm glad you're highliting her so much as she's one of my faves of faves too

This is such a cool concept! And anything with Naomi Smalls love is instantly top tier. Her lip sync skills and level of personal branding cannot be disputed!

Great video as always 💖

I love your videossss 😭❤️

Even though I would have really liked for Manila to win I think she f###ed up the social game. By waving the option of eliminating Valentina in the beginning she lost Trinity’s support and it went all downhill from there. I completely understand her loyalty towards Latrice, but telling everyone up front that she will chop them over her bestie just made it impossible not to eliminate her. Because everyone knew that if they were in the bottom with Latrice and Manila won, they are out.

The whole fairness angle that most of the "playing it safe" queens take isn't really about the competition or the money, it's about interpretation. "I want to beat the best" is "I want the fans to think I'm the best". Sure, you could compete for just the money but for artists and performers the real prize is getting a show were you are the protagonist and your victory is the show's good ending. That is worth more than the money, that is gigs and talk shows and trending and visibility. The real fear is... Well... Being a Trixie; winning but never truly standing out and (even if waaay beyond her hands and having no choice in the matter) getting handed the win instead of "earning" it in the eyes of the fans. I think Trixie's win is as valid as it could get and have never gave a fuck, but the lackluster reception of her crown makes it so that the fandom kinda... Doesn't really acknowledge that she won? Anyway, I'm rambling. Everyone is talking about Pangina and Jimbo as examples of the format, but no one is talking about Blu who actually won and deservedly so. Her eliminating Pangina wasn't as controversial because Pangina opened the door for it, so we all agree Blu was just playing the game, not starting it and so when she wins some fans kinda go "well, yeah, for lack of a better queen". It is kinda scary to win "by default" in the eyes of the fans, I think if Naomi had actually won after eliminating Manila, the fandom wouldn't have been as kind to her.

i love your content and wait for new videos!

I'm so excited for this series!

I NEVER understand why queens come into allstars like "I'm a winner, the crown is mine" and then refuse to send home the competition? bitch if you're here to win, play the fucking game. sure it might leave us with lackluster performers, but if you wanna win, you'll do anything it takes.

100% agreed on all fronts. Naomi actually became a favourite of mine for daring to play the game as the producers had it. UK vs the World was messy and phenomenal for being that x10. So memorable.

"Life's Not Fair" I tell myself this quote whenever things do not go as planned in any situation. #ThanksNaomi

Loving the Survivor referenced with "Game Changers" ...A Drag Race: Game Changers season would be legendary

Firstly, brilliant concept for a series, it gives you such freedom and so many girls to talk about! Secondly, I'm so glad you're starting with Naomi. Even outside of the lipstick moment, she's such a powerhouse of a queen and I think a lot of people forget how strong she was in both seasons!

This makes me think about a Drag Race All Stars: Gamechangers format, and who we'd cast on it. Obviously Naomi is a lock, but who else do we put in there? (No casting of winners please) From Season 1 I'd pick: - Ongina (OG fan fave) - Shannel (first ever lipsynch ruveal/scripted fake accident) - Akashia (OG lipsynch assassin) - Nina Flowers (first ever robbed queen/runner-up/Ms. Congeniality) - Porkchop (duh) - Tammie Brown (first ever kooky queen, and still one of the best)

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_"But really, I just didn't trust the bitch"_ - Naomi during her Pit Stop appearance

After watching the all winners season, I realize how apart from the shocking elimination and the odd winning, this was a forgettable semi negative season to me.

i adore your channel

yoooo i remember when heidi broke that "well if you send them home, you already beat them soo" yoooo best fucking advice ever

“ I so many videos talking about how much I love Naomi but I’m gonna stop it here.” :( “Surprise! I’m gonna be talking about her again very soon.” :)

Do y'all think Monet's win would have been better received if she was the one sending Manila home? Or would the hate been worse?

also the fact that Manila literally told everyone she thought of eliminating the stronger one if given the chance from like episode one- she couldn't have been too surprised to actually see it happen. Like I would've liked to see more of Manila but Naomi played the game thats just that.

honestly it always bothered me that people were so up in arms that naomi eliminated manila. like this is a competition for 100k, why would you not want to eliminate your strongest competition at that point. people always say “i want to beat the best” well if you won the challenge and the best is in the bottom… you already have, send them packing 🤷🏼‍♂️

I personally think all stars in general shouldn’t necessarily have “eliminations” I love the idea of being able to see all the queens in all the competition

Your smile is a Game Changer. It could launch a thousand ships or bring about world peace. That being said, I hope you never scrutinize when you choose to share it because the answer is always yes.

That cut of the sex and the kitty girls going to the trash gave me whiplash and had me cackling 😭

Naomi truly is a wild card for this show

Naomi wil forever be iconic, we all remember that moment! Life's Not Fair

Can you come back to this series!!! Game changers is awesome

I would love to see more queens build up the courage to eliminate their competition and NOT be afraid of the backlash from fans 🙌🏼

I did miss Manila and wanted to see more of her, but I didn’t hate Naomi for sending her home. I thought it was an Allstars move.

the greatest rugirl of them all!! she gives you looks, she gives you unforgettable lipsyncs, she gives you DRAMA, yeah perhaps she ruined a season with a choice but what a moment that was

The way I feel about AS4 is the same way I feel about AS3, the clear front runner gets sent home (or quits) midway leaving the runner up (and/or 2nd runner up 💀) at best to win.

The most replayed moment on this video is people skipping the sponsor lmaoo

Naomi eliminating Manila solidified AS4 as one of my favorite All Star season (we just don’t talk about S&tKG and that poorly edited finale)

impatiently waiting for the time when everyone realizes that Naomi fucking Smalls is a LEGEND

I think an interesting format would be to do the AS4 LaLaPaRuza on steroids. The maxi-challenge winner is immune from elimination, while the bottom queen can challenge any of the safe queens to a Lip Sync for Your Life. I know Ru doesn't like to eliminate All Stars herself, but it's an interesting thought experiment that introduces an element of calculated risk to the competition. Like, the bottom queen has to bet on who she can take in a lip sync, and if it's the frontrunner, she has to prove why the frontrunner should take her place in the bottom and go home. I think it would allow for more strategic choices and dramatic scenarios, while still playing to the idea that winner of the whole thing should be somebody who has outperformed the competition, either in the challenges or the lip syncs. I don't know. Just a fun idea...

12:44 I never noticed Chi Chi's reaction before

I was rooting for Manilla and Latrice but it's the game. She is right, life isn't fair and Manilla doesn't need to win a season, she already is a superstar. Manilla, Shangela, Jimbo, Pangina, TKB... the unfairly eliminated queens are more iconic because of that imo. On a side note, I absolutely love Naomi's run on AS4, I wish she'd come back again.

For me, I enjoyed Naomi’s run than Monet, she had more memorable iconic performances.

love ur content

It made me like her more thanks to this video. Im a filipina loves manila but that choice just makes sense she is a threat plus she did light a fire to all of her competitors to have a major target to her now. I love how naomi is hard working and can pull off surprises, bringing more to her abilities as much with manila.

Manila was so heavily favoured on All Stars 4 that I really didn't mind that Naomi sent her home. Manila should've been in the bottom for the girl group challenge (yes even with her amazing runway, cause that didn't save A'Keria on AS6), and obviously didn't deserve the win for Snatch Game or even Jersey Justice. With a more accurate track record no one would even bat an eyelid at Naomi sending Manila home, and that is what I think of every time I think of this moment.