Was about to comment that exact same thing

Ohhh thats how you draw sonic lol

Yeah, it ends up making it look more like the fur on his chest ends.

I completely agree

And yet in motion the tan arms will always look better.

Lies

@@MizfitZer0 uhh how did he lie?

Same

same

For me it was hard not to notice

Cause in the other characters It looks good.

Amy, Rouge have tan arms

I could, and it wouldn't fit, just as it wouldn't fit for sonic to have a furry muzzle

@@bardonardo2001 that's why he said almost

Look at their classic sprites. Sonic's arms are in front of his blue spines, so in a pixel format in would be near impossible to distinguish his blue arms from his blue spines. Tails and Knuckles don't have spines that lie behind their arms, so no problem.

I think after Sonic Heroes is where they permanently made his eyelids blue. Then again Classic Sonic had flesh colored eyelids in Sonic Generations.

@@lordkaijux5262 He did in the Dreamcast version of Adventure as well.

Sonic has two sets of eyelids, like a cat.

Let me put my two cents in as well: sometimes (early cartoons like the Saturday one or the Sonic anime movie) had his pupils blink. So the white of his eyes would always be open but his pupils would change to a horizontal lines rather than a vertical ones. Then there's the inconsistent eyelids themselves. Sometimes tan, sometimes blue. I think it's been more colored blue nowadays, but it bothers me that pupils are the ones to change. When it's black on white like Sonic's, I think it doesn't look good, more simple eyes when it's black on the face color(blue in this case) or something like that could work, but honestly eyelids are better than the alternative. But hey, like I said: my two cents.

When i animate i forgot sonics eyes are blue now so i give him classic eyelids it's better

When he gets realised sega is fucked

@@fbafroguy6200 It'll be attack on titan in this bitch

Christ, Im only an hour late, didn't think someone would have made a CWC reference that fast.

Ding dong! The witch is dead.

@@StarGazerTom1991 There was a photo of Chris in the video itself.

Well overalls should be blue

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 sonic has fur textures in the movie so it looks really odd with tan arms because either you have random tan fur, or the arms are just hairless, both of which are kinds odd

@@Leig5H0T Real African hedgehogs have hairless legs, but European ones do have hair on their legs. See Shadow

@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 sonic looks so different than an actual hedgehog though

@@Leig5H0T Yeah but you can relate it to the real animal

That dude be like “I hate Japan, they should’ve stick with Robotnik!” 🤣

He's too busy coping, seething and malding about the pettiest and most pointless BS he can think of to ponder on this

I second this

sorry to be that guy, but uhhhhh "absoutly"?

@@mightbetoad6786 woops, corrected, thx

Such a tease

Concept stuff is always interesting

I like to think that Sonic shaves his arms as a fashion statement of some kind.

@@darkhorse744 Jesus, this cursed thought shall never leave me thank you

@@Keanine he can shave the rest of his skin

He also shaves his stomach

That actually sounds fun, summer sonic has tan arms and winter sonic has blue arms

More importantly, the realistic proportions in the Sonic movie likely made it easier to translate the mo-cap into actual animation.

@@TripleJump Yeah but... has Sonic ever really looked good with MoCap? In the video SplashDash mentioned, the "Animation of Sonic Games" video, it went into detail about how awful the MoCap looked in basically all the games between SA2 and Unleashed. Sonic just doesn't look right when they use MoCap, it only works in the movie because it's already meant to look realistic.

@@TripleJump Then it really shouldn’t be said that motion capture is a bad choice in general

Blue arms still aren't that bad

@@kao7143 Why are you bringing this up? Nobody's saying that they are. We're just saying that from an animation standpoint, calling them easier to animate is false.

Hell, several Looney Tunes characters such as Taz had conjoined eyes way before Sonic became a thing.

It was probably inspiro on how the eyes moved, those eye shapes have been around forever in animation however modern sonic just didnt move his eyes like that anymore, So I think the cars eyes were purely inspo on how to get back to that sort of animated conjoined eye look, which I believe hes been drawn to have in the past? But not usually in games, It's quite a cool inspo haha it strangely makes sense

@@lordkaijux5262 Not in 3D

@@lordkaijux5262 I think the whole thing probably started with mickey mouse honestly. A lot of people think the black dots on classic mickey mouse are his eyes but they're actually his pupils. They fucked up his modern design a lot

@@foursidekm oh ew! I just went back to check, and now I can’t unsee that. it’s disturbing

same here

And hopefully they don’t gatekeep the pdf file.

I'm pissed of now

*McNosehair

@@randoncourter4923 It was originally just Nosehair, Boom introduced the “Mc”.

@@j.j3264 nah I'm pretty sure it's been McNosehair since Colors.

@@alicev1500 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oJd0mNGex7bHeKc.html Ignore the title.

@@j.j3264 Nope. In the very cutscene Nosehair was introduced, Sonic added the Mc in. "I'm totally calling him McNosehair!" or something like that.

Prime and Boom's animation have their own ways of looking great

for amy i guess they thought that a red shirt and pink arms would be too similar in color and just kept it the same, if amy was like sally i'm pretty sure they would had made her arms pink

Now that I think all characters have arms fully colored, only Sonic and Amy are exception... and maybe Vector and Rouge (to be fair though Vector arms are more green and Rouge has white fur only on head). But just like in video I don't mind. Sonic is still Sonic, tan arms or blue. :)

I think her arms being "shaved"(?) makes her look a more delicate and therefore more feminine, it's a very subtle detail, but it changes the things a lot when you notice it.

@@JoaoPedro-ki7ct no

@@devilmaycrysarockingdontcome why no?

Yeah, it's usually shoved up Crash's ass.

Yeah, it's the same reason Superman's design doesn't work as well without the red spandex, because there's nothing to break up the blue.

Yea, I agree it just makes the limbs stand out from the body

That’s what the bandages are for

nah the blue arms look way better

Like in the movie not even in boom sonic is acting cool without the tan arms like movie sonic and boom sonic are not that cool as morden and classic

DAS WHAT I'M SAYING

Facts the blue arms can live on now

How? The fact that he went to jail for incest Repe makes him look even worse

The Blue Armed Menace has won!

lmfao chris chan has done so much damage to the sonic community that no one will ever take sonic fans seriously

1 down, the rest of us to go

Sonic and Amy are a species of hedgehog that don’t have fur on their torsos or arms

Hedgehog manscaping

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@@Eman02kG yes, a lot of people doesnt know there are different species of hedgehogs

Initially he thought it reduced drag, but after several sessions in Tails' wind tunnels, he realised it made very little difference.

@@beardedbear9901 I always assumed Tan in Sonic was skin & Blue was Skin/Quills

@@beardedbear9901 that’s honestly an interesting idea

@KIAN he is has?

He shaves his stomach but doesn’t shave his arms in winter to keep warm sense we never see him in a house during the games

The game models have this weird plasticky look that makes their fur shiny. (Maybe because of the lighting?) That's probably why Sonic looks worse.

@@parlinmains not really, his arms simply disappear if the angle of the camera isn't correct

Because Link's redesigns were still made by Nintendo of Japan, while most of Sonic's redesigns were made by Americans, like Boom Sonic, and Movie Sonic. In other words, people are mad that they're apparently "Americanizing" Sonic

@@xenogen372 Sonic’s redesign in Sonic Adventure was done by Japanese devs

There was no Twitter back then, just random fan forums that nintendo would never see, also execpt for a few games the Link you play as isn't the same guy and takes place centuries later in a different timeline.

There are a ton of different Links from a lot of different universes. This has been confirmed on multiple occasions like smash bros and the official timeline. This means that the audience always expects a different continuity, so small changes aren't that big a deal. In fact, it's a good thing for them to stand out from one another so casual followers like me can keep track of events. Sonic is a slightly different case because the games are directly connected to one another (unless stated otherwise), while every show or comic ends up being a different continuity. This means the audience expects no big changes to be made to Sonic's person outside of clothing articles, and even that is a stretch because people thought sonic looked kinda stupid with all the athletic tape and the bandana in Sonic Boom. That's my theory anyways

@@Mechablizz I think he should have pants

Same

@FuckOuttaHere Heck, I don't even pay attention to his arm color

Same

There's absolutely no problem over complaining about the details of something you're passionate about HOWEVER the problem starts when you overreact about such a small thing.

They awesome fan games.

Idk of you know this but I think the person who complained about green eyes was a troll, I think a youtuber did a video on it showing a clip where he admitted it was fake.

Same

​@@vinicius100470 yeah, like when a certain someone vandalized private property and maced a gamestop employee

Same

Realy?

I once saw him stealing rings in a wedding party

Wing Fortress Zone has been one example about it if you ever paid attention to text on ship's walls. Eggman has kinda always been thing regardless of region.

@@totempoleman7810 Also, The UK comics had alot if Egg Puns & Jokes despite calling him Robotnik

I like the compromise they came up with where his name is Ivo Robotnik but everyone calls him Eggman.

@KIAN Was it tho? Can you prove it? Did Dillin Thomas tell you?

@KIAN was he also joking about his Diaper fetish? Assuming this isn't just Damage Control

I would agree

Im just glad someone else likes sonic boom. 😂

@@miss_chelles1338 I’m pretty sure everybody liked the tv show. The game on the other hand…

YES

I disagree. I think the modern proportions are already a great middle ground between an expressive character and a mascot. I am, however, fine with Boom and Movie having their own versions of the character. Gives a little something for everyone.

I thought I was the only one

You enjoyed Rise of Lyric? I won't deny that the 2 3DS games were good, and the show is a certified hood classic, but you enjoyed Rise of Lyric???

@@krugerofcause9048 I never play ed any of the games but watched it and well it objectively boring game design honestly I like it because of the jack & daxter and ratchet & clank influence

@@batfang25animations39 Rise of Lyric is also just as buggy as Sonic 06. The rest of the Boom franchise might be good, but there's a reason Rise of Lyric tainted the Boom reputation as badly as it did.

@@krugerofcause9048 eh from the gameplay I watch it didn't look that buggy buggy yeah but not by much I think they patched it out a around its release so that might explain it

I agree! Though let's not forget that Sonic has been the internet's personal punching bag for so damn long that it honestly feels like Sega have just given up and gone "What's the point of putting any passion or effort into this series if people are just going to badmouth it regardless of it's quality? If everyone is just going to make idiotic memes to show how stupid Sonic is, then we might as well do that too! If you can't beat 'em, join 'em!" At least, that's how it feels to me!

@360 Overdrive While I don't think Sega necessarily should sell the Sonic series, but they definitely need to get a competent team who understands the series, it's history and lore, it's characters and it's overall tone. Yet at the same time, this fan base is so divided that even that wouldn't keep everyone happy! At the end of the day though Sonic games, regardless of their quality, still sell! And even the bad games are being bought by KZfaqrs just so they can make videos mocking the series with the same overused, unfunny jokes we've heard a million times before ("HUH HUH, SONIC SUCKS! MEMBER WHEN HE KISSED A HUMAN? WERE THEY PROMOTING BEASTIALITY? THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO LIKE SONIC OBVIOUSLY JERK OFF TO CRINGEY SONIC PICTURES ON DEVIANT ART!") And yet Sega just don't care, because they're still making money! It sounds crazy, but there's a part of me that thinks this is why the games just aren't improving!

@360 Overdrive I honestly don't think the "America Vs Japan" thing is necessarily a problem. At least not a big one! The majority of the Sonic fan base have been whining about the most trivial things practically ever since Sonic 2. I remember people who hated Tails in that game almost with a passion; so if there are people who can't even handle Sonic having ONE friend, then is it any wonder why Sega have been prioritizing the demands of the "Sonic's Stupid Friends" crowd? THAT seems to be the only reason that they've all been sidelined and Sonic has been the only playable character with a bunch of gimmicks tacked on! Even the Werehog felt like a cheap alternative to playing as Sonic's friends! It's the same with this "Two Worlds" thing. There's absolutely nothing in the games that suggests that there's a world of humans and a separate world of anthropomorphic animals. However, because so many people are confused about this and are constantly asking weird questions like "Why are there humans? Humans weren't in the old games", completely forgetting, ignoring, or even straight up denying that Eggman IS a human and has been there since day one! And yet Sega, who seem to be getting confused by this themselves are saying things like "oh yeah, those old games are set on a totally different world to the newer ones" as a desperate attempt to try and appease these fans. As a result though all this has done is mess with their continuity and make everything more convoluted and confusing than it needs to be! It's the same with the "Modern Sonic Vs Classic Sonic" fiasco! When Sonic 4 was announced every Sonic whiner was going " NOOO, I DON'T WANT THAT STINKY GREEN EYED IMPOSTER! WHERE'S THE REAL SONIC?" People were even saying "Sonic's old design and his new design should be two separate characters!" And in the very next game, they bring back the old design as a younger version of Sonic, then all the fan brats were treating that like it was the second coming of Christ, even causing people to start whining "now all they have to do is get rid of Modern Sonic and the games will finally be good again!" Then after Mania's success, is it honestly any wonder why Sega retconned Classic into a separate character from an alternate dimension? He was shoehorned into Forces because Sega were honestly convinced that no one would buy a game starring Modern Sonic! None of these decisions have been made because they benefit the series, they were just made because Sega thinks this is what the majority of the fan base wants; but all it's doing is making things worse! Now I know that Sega are technically to blame for making these bonkers decisions, but I honestly don't think that they would've even considered them if they weren't being egged on by overly nit picky fan brats who can barely comprehend that Sonic has green eyes, friends, allies and rivals to help him on his adventures, and can actually speak!

@360 Overdrive I guess I've never really thought about Sega of Japan. If Sonic isn't as popular in Japan as it is in the US and UK, then I honestly don't think that Japanese Sonic fans are the ones going "Get rid of Sonic's stupid friends, no more humans, more Classic Sonic PRAISE BE HIS NAME!" And it certainly isn't Sega of Japan that are making these fan appeasing mandates.

@@bowmaj8666 heh you said imposter

The video shown is a joke video making fun of people who were like this

Wait what? How?

This is the most beautiful comment of all time. It has brought me to tears and changed my life for the better.

sonic

Great comment, I do think he looks better with blue arms though

Epic comment. I prefer the tan ones more.

I think it'll look weird if his scarf stays unnaturally attached to his shoulders during the more action-y moments.

I definitely agree with you, Sonic's design could've looked way better if they put the scarf on the shoulders, as long as they can make the scarf move and flap around too so it doesn't look like Sonic got glue on his shoulders before he put the scarf on.

Yeah but then again does it matter?

@@Guywithachair If we judged everything by how much it mattered then what's the point of even being on the internet?

@@felixdaniels37 Yeah fair enough

I know right, I thought it was just Fine and Normal when they update a Design like Sonic but now that most People think about it it seems they just don’t like the Majority of Sonics Arms being Blue, I mean I was fine with it at first but now it just seems Questionable with Chris Chan gone now….

It's called design and it's the most nuanced and autistic part of art, let us have our fun.

@@ThatBugBehindYou nerd

@@vegetaYT1 Honestly when I saw the Boom's design for the first time I almost didn't noticed the color change in the arms, and I didn't even noticed it in the movie which I've watched a few times While Chris Chan gone ape shit about this

Honestly I think Boom Sonic with tan arms looks strange and that he looks better with blue arms

Colour variety

Because she wore a dress that obscured her shoulders, so it's easier to animate here while at the same time keep her arms the original color.

Amy wears clothes while sonic doesnt, making the disconnected elbows problem non existant for amy

Much like the sphinx, she thought they looked cute so she had to shave them.

cause she wears clothes maybe? so there's not a big problem to animate her unlike sonic

@@Brain_With_Glasses I understand that, but they're both hedgehogs, so it just seemed weird to me especially since shadow has black arms.

Honestly the Sonic Boom cartoon is terrible introduction to the franchise as whole because it gives the wrong idea of how the characters personalities are like but if you like it that’s great for you

@@iceman92211 But I later watched character analysis videos and I know the characters much better.

@@obamius4521 well it’s still kinda of embarrassing knowing the characters personalities from random KZfaq videos than an actual official product

@Kian What’s the original video???