STOP Relying On The Ingredient List! Skincare Mistakes And Misinformation ✖ James Welsh

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It’s time we review the way we judge skincare products. The way we decide if we are going to buy them, the way we decide how they will effect our skin, the way we review skincare.
We need to stop judging our skincare by simple reading the ingredient lists.
As we’ve become more and more obsessed with our skincare routines, our products and what is in them, we all like to think we know how to read our ingredient lists right? We can judge a product pretty well by the ingredients we read?
Well….unfortunately its not that simple….at all.
Whilst it is of course important to check the ingredient list for diagnosed allergies you may have to certain ingredients, the majority of us should not and can not judge a product purely from reading the ingredient list.
Judging products by pulling single ingredients from the inky list, leads to fear mongering, especially when you look those ingredients up online or on inordinate list checkers.
This is because these websites don’t take into consideration a number of super important factors
1) The dose of the ingredient
2) How the ingredient plays with other ingredients in the formulation
3) And factors like, where is the ingredient from.
Let me know what you think in the comments below!
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@LiahYoo 3 жыл бұрын

OMG did we just create a whole skincare coalition deciding to drop this topic this week!!

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Haha i can’t remember the last time this happened 😅💜

@LeBeautiful 3 жыл бұрын

OMG BOTH QUEENS ON THE TOPIC ON A SAME VID I JUS-

@80stimeagain 3 жыл бұрын

You guys are on the same psychic wavelength today it seems. :)

@janiceonlyb2st 3 жыл бұрын

I literally just watched your video Liah! Thanks to you and James, I'll try to be more open-minded with products that I purchase from now on :)

@sreejitadutta7432 3 жыл бұрын

Using the food analogy, Epicurious has this series called "4 levels of : Amateur to Food Scientist" where 3 levels of cooks prepare the same food item and the food scientist analyzes each preparation. It will be so interesting to have a similar concept for Skincare where different people in the skincare world ( Influencers, Esthetician, Derm, Formulator/Scientist ) can come together and discuss a particular product or a product category (like Vitamin C serums).

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Okay so as with all videos, people are not watching or listening entirely or just commenting based on the title (which is of course fine as I never expect people to watch the whole video! Especially if it’s over 10 mins long!). And of course there are exceptions. There always will be. So TL:DW: 1) of course look for allergies in the INCI list. If a few products have irritated your skin or broke you out, then of course read the list and see if there are any similarities 2) I’m not discouraging people from educating themselves. Quite the opposite I hope. We’ve learnt how to read the ingredient list and now we need to learn how much that can really tell us about what the product can do for our individual Skin. And the answer to that is, the INCI list can’t tell us this, positives or negatives (again unless you have a known allergy). What I’m trying to do is encourage people to educate themselves in the other factors of product formulation and to look further than INCI decoding websites to make and informed decision. 3) unfortunately, wasting your money on products that don’t work for you is going to be part of the process. But reading the ingredient list alone, as a consumer, isn’t going to tell us wether the product will work for us and be worth our time and money. It sucks, but trial and error is part of finding out what works for your skin and what doesn’t 4) this isn’t supposed to discourage people from using skincare or trying skincare! It’s supposed to encourage people to stop being scared of their skincare. And instead of trying to fully understand it like a scientist, be comfortable in the fact that we don’t have to know everything there is to know!

@LPno.9 3 жыл бұрын

I watched your video more than once. Because people don't fully agree with you does not mean we're ignorant or impatient. I have also watched other videos on this topic where the information was simply presented better and with confidence in the ability of consumers to understand the process they were describing and continue to participate in it. Perhaps you should calmly accept the critiques of your work or clarify any confusion caused by your video rather than attempting to insult your subscribers.

@trivanaburris2854 3 жыл бұрын

Pin. Please

@Cathrynn216 3 жыл бұрын

@@LPno.9 wat. But his comment is calmly clarifying confusion tho LOL I don't see how this was at all an attempt to insult. Because he said some people didn't watch or listen entirely? That's not an insult to subscribers, lots of people comment just based on titles or before finishing videos all the time

@LPno.9 3 жыл бұрын

@@Cathrynn216 I wrote a detailed criticism of this video to which James replied before posting this reply. At least one other person posted a similar criticism in that thread. That the one we're responding to was posted after he'd already responded to me does lead me to believe that this one was posted at least in part to go in on people who take issue with some aspects of this video. Even if you think that he did a good job clarifying his video, the strange assumption that the main reason anyone could take issue with it is that they can't understand or refuse to properly take in the information would have been better left out.

@cutie511 3 жыл бұрын

Huh? I'm so sorry that you had to explain this.

@mariestelcorrelo3273 3 жыл бұрын

This is so important. After watching so many Hyram videos, I started to fear Witch hazel and Denatured Alcohol in my aloe vera gel, when those two did okay with my skin for so long. I started to fear them and avoided them so much only to have them when I had Purito Unscented Toner and The Beet the Sun. So actually the key is you can only tell unless you try them.

@Kathi88 3 жыл бұрын

With all honesty - a lot of the times I feel literally overwhelmed with ingredient lists🙈

@callwyse 3 жыл бұрын

I do, too .

@JaY-nn6ss 3 жыл бұрын

I usually just read through some ingredients. PEG, perfume and active ingredients. If active ingredients are barely on the bottom, then I would skip it. if PEG and perfume is on first or second line, I would probably skip it. Just because I know there are so many products that are not formulated in that way. Also I check how long the whole list is. I generally prefer shorter list. I'm not interested in an apple juice that has 100 ingredients lol tho I usually accept about 5-6 lines of ingredient list on the package.

@JaY-nn6ss 3 жыл бұрын

Then there are everybody's personal black list. In my case, I never use oil or balm product. Whatever I use, I just get breakout. Some skin just hate fermented ingredients, while my skin absolutely loves it.

@dkalbryte6774 3 жыл бұрын

It does get overwhelming & confusing

@misss7777 3 жыл бұрын

@@JaY-nn6ss Mine hates Niacinamide, perfume, essential oils and some of the chemical sunscreen filters... so basically a lot of products😅

@brittany9233 3 жыл бұрын

I immediately thought of Hyram because hes so ingredients-based but I think videos like this are valuable to help people calm any anxiety they may have because they're relying too much on the listed ingredients and panicking if they see something they understand, or believe to be, bad or even dangerous. There is room for nuance here. Yes, check the ingredients for things that you might be sensitive to, or even allergic, but dont read the whole book for one sentence. Formulation, quality, and SOURCING, something not talked near enough about, are incredibly important and we shouldn't be passing up potential skin saviors or lovely routine experiences because of one or two errant ingredients that you've heard to be potentially problematic. I dont care how perfect an ingredient list seems to be, if my experience with it isn't enjoyable or effective I'm not interested, and vice versa. Nuance people! Nuance! Theres room here, a whole Olympic pool-sized space of nuance for consideration and evaluation outside of a black and white ingredient list. Hyram and James are both right here - care about what is going on your skin but dont work overtime and worry yourself into avoiding anything and everything outside of the most basic ingredient makeup.

@boxcars10 3 жыл бұрын

Hyram and James have really helped me find a good balance regarding how I approach skincare. We also have to remember that Hyram approaches ingredients the way he does because it's his own *personal* skincare philosophy, which includes holding brands to a very high standard, acting ethically, and demanding minimal irritatants. But he does also try the products and talk about his thoughts on how they worked. But James is really helpful too because he gives a different perspective and reminds us that a product or two with certain ingredients isn't necessarily bad.

@brittany9233 3 жыл бұрын

@@boxcars10 Absolutely, well said. Considering the person talking about and reviewing a product and their own personal views and experiences is important as well. I can already see the comments railing against James or scolding Hyram because people just dont want, or dont care, to consider that both are coming from their own places and are actually in agreement overall, though they might vary in a few ways and reached their conclusions through different paths.

@bakugotodoroki69 3 жыл бұрын

I loved the way you two are sharing opinions with respect ❤️ the hate comments were making me a little sad as I love them both but this comment made me happy

@rebawolf 3 жыл бұрын

Ingredients are important though, especially for pregnant and breastfeeding women, and others who might have bad reactions. As a pregnant woman myself, I have to avoid salicylic acids and rentinals because they are not safe for the baby

@brittany9233 3 жыл бұрын

@@rebawolf No one is saying they aren't important and I said in my post, and James also said in the beginning of the video, that of course you should look for things you are sensitive to, have allergies, etc. James is saying in general, not to base your entire judgement of a product solely on what you see on the list because there's a lot more to it than that.

@kylaabeleda9053 3 жыл бұрын

when watching videos like these, remember that the message is: BOTH are important. just because ingredient lists don't tell the whole story, doesn't mean you need to ditch them. take these videos as a reminder that skincare is really complex and a lot of work and brainpower goes into it. look at ingredient lists to check if there's something that irritates YOUR skin. anyone can develop a bad reaction to any product (either bc of ingredients OR formulation) so it's impossible to dodge all irritants look at ingredient lists to check if a product contains an ingredient you want to incorporate into your skincare; or to double-check the marketing that goes into it check if you want to check but let's not pretend like we know everything about a product based on it's ingredients

@danielastuckrath3548 3 жыл бұрын

The overall response is to read the ingredient list but to make an educated decision. I agree totally to that, because I'm not gonna be trying all the products skin care industry has to offer, I'm not as rich to be able to try as much products I'd like to. I'm not in that position economically and I don't have the time.

@QueenOddity 3 жыл бұрын

I feel like he should of said this explicitly in the video yeah.

@elenabarbieri1286 3 жыл бұрын

Seriously, thank you and all the other skincare youtubers that decided to treat this topic for this. I'm still very new to this world and I tend to be really overly paranoid over ingredient lists and triple checking everything before buying it. I want to be attentive, yes, but not in a way that might impede me from trying some great products

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

It’s something we’ve all done! It used to be a huge deal for me and yeah, super confusing and intimidating

@elenabarbieri1286 3 жыл бұрын

Also fun fact, my dad is a chemistry teacher and tells me all the time not to freak out in front of some ingredients (es. denat alcohol lol), I'll definitely listen to him more

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

haha LAWAYS LISTEN TO YOUR PARENTS 😂

@sophia6812 3 жыл бұрын

"I doNT cARe hOw iT FeElS" ok... put some leaves on your face then lol

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

LOOOOOL!

@gustavo_oviedo 3 жыл бұрын

I don't want to start something here. But, that's why I listen to Hyram with a bit more of a grain of salt. Again, I enjoy his content and reactions and I don't want to be shady here, but he is too ingredient oriented, and not experience or results-oriented. Skincare companies don't want to poison you, so just identifying an ingredient cannot be the whole story. You'd need to be a real expert in formulation to really tell the efficacy of a product just by reading the ingredients list.

@sunscreenhoarder6558 3 жыл бұрын

I've been saying this for a long time. Hyram has no education or training in this whatsoever. Even a cosmetic chemist would probably struggle to gauge exactly how well a product would perform on the skin from an ingredients list alone, let alone somebody who mostly seems to get their info from reddit. It's such a toxic mentality I think.

@kellysblackcat 3 жыл бұрын

I totally agree. And what's with him coming out with a video saying he wasn't an expert but now titles his videos with specialist? A bit misleading if you don't know who he really is.

@laurafuentes66 3 жыл бұрын

@@kellysblackcat It absolutely annoys me that he calls himself a specialist

@siwonsarmpithair1920 3 жыл бұрын

👍👍👍

@sh3zzz 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely something I've been guilty of in the past! Honestly I think brands like The Ordinary have unintentionally made people feel like experts when they aren't (as well as ingredients sites like CosDNA/INCIdecoder etc!)

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Omg I would check CosDNA for everything! Like in shops, checking before I got the product!

@CarolineHirons01 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the mention good Sir. And yes: Formula is Queen! ♥️😘

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Always a pleasure ☺️💜💜🙏🏼

@katerinarose880 3 жыл бұрын

Caroline is Queen!🙋‍♀️

@65NART 3 жыл бұрын

You’ve always said that Mrs H (dear Caroline). With you and James I never feel as though I’m being lectured to. You both give the facts and leave the decision whether to try and buy up to us. No pressure to buy and that is what I want. The drama, the product bashing etc I could do without.

@amandalawrence3182 3 жыл бұрын

“I don’t care how it feels on my skin” “Yes, you fucking do” 💁🏻‍♀️ I love James 💕

@unbiasly 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly I know formulation and sourcing matters a lot, but I'm also convinced the really high-end, luxury skincare lines are just average ingredients with fancy additives to make it feel nice lol

@Nicole-dk1cn 3 жыл бұрын

High-end brands are relying heavily on name branding and the assumption that more money means better products. If one good thing came out of the obsession with ingredients and formulation it's that these brands are being debunked and exposed for robbing their customers.

@Quartza_ 3 жыл бұрын

I’ve been using Chanel Hydra Beauty Lotion very moist. I must say that nothing compares to this lotion-serum since it’s so hydrating and soothing for my skin.

@JaY-nn6ss 3 жыл бұрын

@@Quartza_ Also they definitely have perfume in it, and I love it! Never used their product long enough, but whenever I put some on, my skin simply loves them.

@Quartza_ 3 жыл бұрын

@@JaY-nn6ss so far the perfume doesn’t bother me and my skin is okay with that plus it lasts so long

@matheusn.3568 3 жыл бұрын

That’s why I love James’s content, this is a channel that respects science and doesn’t spread false information in a toxic way.

@sunscreenhoarder6558 3 жыл бұрын

💯This and labmuffin's channel are honestly the only spaces in the community that don't stress me right out at this point. There's so many people just blindly following certain large influencers, not cross referencing, etc. It's kinda terrifying tbh and I'm really glad somebody with a large platform has decided to call this out.

@katerinarose880 3 жыл бұрын

Hyram: I can't believe we're fighting like this.

@aidamartina1887 3 жыл бұрын

I'm dying 😂

@Nicole-dk1cn 3 жыл бұрын

To be fair, a lot of Hyram's stuff is coming from a place of caring about people with sensitive skin.

@sunscreenhoarder6558 3 жыл бұрын

It's about time he was challenged on this, to be honest. He's a nice guy who apparently means well but he's had such a toxic influence on the skincare community.

@beetwospirit69420 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunscreenhoarder6558 true that, he jumps to conclusions based on ingredients.

@steph0711 3 жыл бұрын

@@sunscreenhoarder6558 That's so nasty to say. Hyram focuses on ingredients because he's very into the scientific aspects of skincare. He tells us what studies have shown, mixed with his own personal opinion/experience and preferences and he advises on which ingredients you could look for or avoid. He doesn't command you have to do that or read the entire ingredient list. Thanks to Hyram, so many people have been able to find a good skincare routine, myself included. I don't read the whole ingredient list, but I do have to watch out for some ingredients in products. James isn't trying to fight Hyram on this either. He actually said in his most recent video he actually likes how Hyram shares his knowledge and experience. James is just trying to tell us that you shouldn't get paranoid about ingredients

@fancy_lette 3 жыл бұрын

As an esthie I am so glad you made this!!!!!! It is amazing that consumers are more interested and enthusiastic about skin care and ingredients! I love collaborating with clients who are engaged. Only they know their experience and a positive experience, whether that be results or sensorial or sensorial+ results. The experience of using a product is an incredibly important function that drives people to use the product. If I like they wayit feels or smells, there is extra motivation to use the product. The product can only work if you put it on your face. Sometimes half-educated customers try to “quiz” us. There are so many factors that consumers don’t know i.e. the safe/therapeutic range of ingredient% can vary drastically due to the pH of a product... or many people like to exfoliate with enzymes and acids and are horrified by physical exfoliants... it really depends on skin type and product. Some skins can’t take acid so an appropriate physical exfoliant works better... With severe allergies to various grasses and pollens, I am more likely to have a reaction to plant based products. It is safer for me to use “lab” chemicals... water is a chemical.... I can go on.

@denatoniumbenzoate8614 3 жыл бұрын

My skin honestly doesn't care about or react to fragrance, I'm glad that it turns out I'm not secretly harming my face somehow. I was avoiding it because I was told to tbh

@krluna13 3 жыл бұрын

Same. I've watched many videos saying avoid fragrance, but my skin has never negatively reacted to it. However, while fragrance does not physically harm my skin in anyway, I have a very oily face and I notice moisturizers and serums with fragrance end up smelling really bad with my oil over time and with some immediately. I've stopped buying fragrance products cause of this (except in a wash off cleanser. Since it washes off, I don't get the scent issue). Long story short - I totally agree that even if someone makes a recommendation that doesn't mean its true to most people. Just got to learn about your skin and do what it best for it.

@estee6318 3 жыл бұрын

In my 20s my skin didn’t care or react either. Once I hit 30 my skin changed and became sensitive and now I avoid it at all costs. Fragrance is sensitizing, so you probably won’t react to it in the beginning but over time you could..

@thatchixsister 3 жыл бұрын

Same! While my skin doesn't react to fragrances, I am extremely sensitive to scents in general so I like to avoid them. I tend to get migraines easily when exposed to certain scents (looking at you rose!!) I have to avoid the perfume section in department stores like Macy's or I'm trapped in bed for 2 days with a migraine. I guess my nose was protecting my skin anyway it could 🥴🥴

@kemsari9969 3 жыл бұрын

I LOVE fragrance in skincare because it maximizes my using expierence. When i could choose the same product with or without fragrance, i would go WITH fragrance every single time. It just is a kinda of "spa feeling" i get when i use skincare with nice smells

@misss7777 3 жыл бұрын

With either synthetic fragrance or essential oils it can happen that your skin suddenly get sensitized by it at some point ( like with every other ingredient) - but this is something you will definitely feel on your skin - and maybe it will never happen - so it is not the big bad poison that will definitely kill you. On the other hand we should still be more careful with essential oils, since citrus oils (especially bergamot) contain chemicals (yes natural productd also consist of chrmicals) that make skin more prone to sun damage. Generally speaking fragrance in skincare does nothing but making the experience of using a product more or less pleasant. I for my part only use fragrance free products since I found out that my skin doesn't like it. Sometimes I feel excluded by some brands, but generally speaking I don't think no one should use fragranced products and we will all die from it🤣

@nnn9122 3 жыл бұрын

"...organic fed crystal chickens in the garden." 😂😂😂

@brianlandry3069 3 жыл бұрын

This is why James is my favorite skincare youtuber!

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you 💜🙏🏼

@user-ox2vg7so9x 3 жыл бұрын

Agreeeee... Nuance man

@dawson3885 3 жыл бұрын

I personally feel that knowing the percentage of active ingredients is important, especially if you’re trying to treat something specific. Sometimes companies will just throwing an ingredient in simply because it’s trendy at a useless percentage just for marketing to draw the consumer in. We need to know what percentage is in the therapeutic range so that we’re not wasting our money on just pretty bottles. As for The quality of an ingredient, well that something as a consumer That’s a whole lot harder for us to know.

@MrIttybittypiggy123 3 жыл бұрын

That's true. Thing is in addition to the % active other things matter like penetration enhancer (peptides have penetration issues), or the solvent/effective pH (some actives are sparingly water soluble/oil soluble only so when I see a cocktail of actives like tranexamic, Kojic and niacinamide etc in one serum you start to wonder if it's even effective)

@kellyc3897 3 жыл бұрын

Definitely a timely topic. At the end of the day, ingredients can act as a guide or a caution (for known sensitivities or allergies) but a lot of the time, it comes down to the formulation and you won't know until you're trying the product and judging other aspects of how it works on your skin and the benefits you're getting.

@Jessica-bg8le 3 жыл бұрын

Exactly. I was just thinking , how are we supposed to Kno the lows and highs of concentrations and or how do we know how it's formulated? We would just need to try it out then

@LeBeautiful 3 жыл бұрын

Liah and James discussing the same topic...amazing 🙏✨

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Haha and Susan earlier this week!

@AR-md1zq 3 жыл бұрын

I like reading the ingredients list and it has actually been beneficial for my skincare. When I break out after using a product, for example, it has helped me make an educated guess as to why I maybe broke out and avoiding those ingredients in other skincare has saved me time, money and saved my skin no matter how much an online specialist or skin enthusiast raved about it. I still love watching youtube videos and reading blogs because it informs me of products I may be interested in. I also like to know percentages of active ingredients as I read the scientific literature behind the active ingredients: more intensive than the average consumer. . So, you are correct in pointing out that if percentages are provided, the significance should be explained to the consumer because not everyone is going to do a deep dive into the literature.

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Yeassss exactly. There are reasons you’d want to check the ingredients list thoroughly. Reactions etc! It’s a great way to find out what’s been irritating your skin ☺️

@bee65 3 жыл бұрын

Yes! I just noticed that Liah posted about this too! AND yesterday both Hyram and Casandra posted about Bubble. Dang. This is lucky to I can hear multiple opinions and different thoughts.

@shamelleism 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I noticed that too. They most have some kind of skincare spidey sense

@isha4889 3 жыл бұрын

I’m convinced they’re in a groupchat lmao

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

haha! i think we all just go by comments to be honest! And as we all try to lern more, we have much more to discuss :)

@nailat.k 3 жыл бұрын

Honestly The skincare community is so chill.Beauty and skincare are pretty close things but the beauty community is literally so much toxicity and drama while the skincare community is just chilling.

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

haha yeah we all get along! I think it's because with skincare, it's very personal and there are so many different yet valid philosophies so we all have respect for each others views :)

@nailat.k 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh I agree! None of the youtube drama here♡

@carmenisnichwichtig1374 3 жыл бұрын

For me,to complicated 🤦🏻‍♀️ i use different serums in the morning and different once at night. I never read the ingredients in any of my creams or serums. Why? My skin tells me very quick if it is good for me or not👍thats how i went by forever and i am almost 60 years young. My skin never fell oft so i guess i am doing something right. And yes,i have wrinkles and i take them with pride. Who wants to look like a Teenager forever?? Thank you very much for all the Videos you put up for us❣ Greetings from Germany 🇧🇪 Carmen 🐧

@aarontheabc 3 жыл бұрын

Skincare requires a lot of trial and error, there are some people that enjoys luxury skincare and it works on their skin, whereas the affordable brands don't. And vice versa. We need to stop demonising products based off single ingredients. Cosmetic formulators aren't out to hurt the general public! ❤️👌

@raaga1005 3 жыл бұрын

I love how James and Robert explain stuff. It's a great combination of sassy, informative and funny ❤️😂

@luisah6663 3 жыл бұрын

But reading ingredient lists make me excited for a product 😭

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Hah I still read it!! But I don’t let it be the deciding factor ☺️

@jeniferjoseph9200 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same!

@angwymeow100 3 жыл бұрын

it does??!!? lol u wild i could never hahaha

@luisah6663 3 жыл бұрын

@@angwymeow100 I'm a skin care junkie :)

@wearenotyourkind632 3 жыл бұрын

Me when it comes to hair products

@jessicagreene3888 3 жыл бұрын

Hi James! I love your videos and I especially love this video. I’m a chemist and I’ve taken a lot of toxicology classes so I love trying to figure out the science of skincare but I also have no background in cosmetic formulations so obviously I don’t actually know how ingredients interact with each other. I just wanted to say I think I’ve heard you say this before and credit the idea of the dose makes the poison to toxicologists on Instagram. I love that you spread this concept to your viewers because it is actually the backbone of toxicology and was a principle taught and coined by Paracelsus. It is the basis of literally every toxicology class I’ve ever take so just wanted to make it clear that it is very common in toxicology and not just to some toxicologists on Instagram though I am very appreciative of their work and your work to inform the public about this. Thank you for this video and for everything you do! You help me stay calm during the pandemic and you are helping me to unlearn judging products solely in the ingredient list. Seriously, thank you for everything you do and keep being you!

@MadameDesu 3 жыл бұрын

Another good example of this is something like Castile soap. People will see a list of oils and sodium hydroxide and conclude that it’s a bad product, not understanding how the sodium hydroxide changes the oils into soap!

@whysoda 3 жыл бұрын

I think ingredient lists are a fantastic guide but shouldn't be the "be all end all" in terms of buying a product. For example, I'm someone with incredibly reactive/sensitive skin, so doing some light research (keyword, light!) to make sure products don't contain specific ingredients really helps in the long-run. TLDR, balance between research and sensory/formulation experience is key!!

@Cara-39 3 жыл бұрын

I have the same skin type so I read ingredient lists to see if a product contains fragrant essential oils like citrus, floral or eucalyptus, all of which have caused terrible reactions for me and to see where in the list a specific active may be but that's it. New products will always be trial and error for people with our skin types but knowing what causes problems can hopefully cut down on that.

@Zimmerchild 3 жыл бұрын

Turns out this video isn't meant for me (allergies and sensitivity) just wanted to leave a comment for engagement, gave you a like too, have a great day. 💜💜💜

@stinajones9847 3 жыл бұрын

The cake analogy is amazing & makes so much sense! 🖤

@dayramartinez1906 3 жыл бұрын

james: identify your problems and interests and act accordingly to the resources and informations you have, keeping in mind flexibility is often necessary and people's experiences are unique some people in the comments: bUT I HAVE ISSIUES SO YOU CHOSE DEATH FOR ME????????111111 >:(

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

LOL! 😂😂💜🙏🏼

@trishfowler3149 3 жыл бұрын

This makes me feel better! I was overwhelmed that I needed to learn every ingredient. I don’t want my skincare to give me anxiety because I don’t know every ingredient. This video is starting a good conversation about looking at the ingredient list as a holistic view. Thank you! Hope all is well!

@wm1389 3 жыл бұрын

Lush organix has a sentence like "unlike other products, this serum does not contain any chemicals ..."

@lovedoggo5202 3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao does it exist?

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Lol!! So...nothing?!

@lilituprincess 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh it's just AIIR xD

@dorotejanavickaite4086 3 жыл бұрын

It's a vacuum

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

LOOOOL! Just a dark empty void!

@myfanwydavies 3 жыл бұрын

i loved your first video awhile back about this, and was so excited when liah made hers. i honestly stopped watching a lot of skincare youtube for awhile bc i was really done with this overreliance on ingredients with basically no consideration for formulation. i know what ingredients i’m allergic or sensitive to and avoid but that’s it! thank you james

@skinbyresearch9350 3 жыл бұрын

This is such a wholesome perspective! Thank you for speaking to this topic and framing it in such a relatable way. Skincare and chemicals are so complex and there are a lot of nuances. It’s fantastic that people want to be more educated and informed consumers, but we also need to be critical of the information we take in and understand the limitations to our own knowledge too.

@kierenpaola 3 жыл бұрын

Oh. My. Gosh. This is an EYE-OPENER. Thank you so much!! 😭❤️

@monamalek11 3 жыл бұрын

I hate reading some "woke" customers post reviews on sephora and Nordstrom. They read the ingredient list snd give it a bad review saying qUeStIoNaBlE InGrEdIeNt LiSt for ingredients like parabens, Alcohol, etc.

@AnnaMaria-hf4pe 3 жыл бұрын

Your videos bring me so much joy and calmness, improve my skin and the way I take care of it. Don't know what more I could ask for ;). Thank you for putting out the lovely content

@ximar0ckstrx 3 жыл бұрын

I read the ingredients list. But its not to bash products. I want to see the concentration of certain ingredients. Especially if an item is marketed as having a specific ingredient.

@dianarose337 3 жыл бұрын

Whenever I want to try out a new product, you’re always one of the youtubers I go to first to see if you have reviewed the product already 💜💜

@Baileybooandecho 3 жыл бұрын

So many fine points made here. My biggest takeaway is that we can't always see the full picture and should listen to our skin. Great video!👍🏻

@ladysoliman1147 3 жыл бұрын

“And even death...” that gave me a good chuckle. This is so true about skincare and really anything.

@SamAjono 3 жыл бұрын

This also applies to hair care too! People are so afraid of ingredients such as silicones

@DermAngelo 3 жыл бұрын

Great content as always! I always say, you can't make an educated call or review about a product unless you actually use it. The ingredient list only tells you so much. For consumers, user experience will tell you much more than just a list of ingredients.

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!! I’ll be directing everyone to this comment when they say ‘dermatologists will say otherwise!’ 😂

@Ggiulia98 3 жыл бұрын

3:38 captions say "I'm just gonna go in with a bit more *tuna* "

@raaid22 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you doing your part to combat the fear mongering.

@ajamesu 3 жыл бұрын

Love this!! Thank you for using your wide reach to actually educate your audience to think critically

@m.c.7741 3 жыл бұрын

The cancel culture perpetuated by Hyram and his followers is for sure annoying. It's always bothered me that Hyram never even tries half of the products he reviews/cancels. It's so dismissive! Thanks for this!

@malinm558 3 жыл бұрын

Have you seen dr Vanita Rattan? She's even worse lol

@21cellie 3 жыл бұрын

Interesting, compared to others, I thought Hyram usually tries the products before making a judgement call (I also am not a fan of when people review skincare lines w/o trying it!)

@m.c.7741 3 жыл бұрын

@Nikasaturn exactly! I love watching Hyram too but I wish he would find a drugstore brand other than Cerave to support. Isn't he all about cruelty free too? I was sad to learn that Cerave isn't cruelty free and for some reason I thought all the brands he promotes are cruelty free

@shinstantramen5169 3 жыл бұрын

This was definitely the reason I stopped following Hyram. I really appreciate what he's done for educating people on skincare and trying to get people to care more but when I realized that sometimes he'd give his opinions on things that he's never tried solely because of the ingredients, it kinda turned me off. I'm still happy for his growth and what he uses his platform for though.

@yesyesnono6969 3 жыл бұрын

Denatured alcohol is so demonized in the skincare community, like seriously almost every skincare line I got from a doctor, there's always a product with denatured alcohol, it can be seriously great for oily skin if it's formulated correctly!

@flowersnflourph 3 жыл бұрын

As always, I love how you educate us and still keep your sense of humor. That part about stalking the chemists and manufacturers was gold 😆. I also absolutely love Liah's content and started following her years back when I first started taking my skincare seriously. Thank you for this awesome video. I love how much effort and research you put into every single one. ❤

@Amanda-rp8fn 3 жыл бұрын

I always kinda 'save' your videos and then have a relaxing night and watch a bunch of these and do selfcare and nice activities ✨ thank you for these videos!

@wendyribadeneira8798 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks James, watching your video and Liah Yoo ‘s was great, enjoyable and of course, helpful for its clarity and honesty.

@abbiewood2064 3 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that skincare KZfaq trusts it’s audience to know that other creators will have a different opinion, and that’s okay, and the best way to be informed is to learn from all the different points of view! 🥰

@unbiasly 3 жыл бұрын

Loved the food analogy! In the same way its like carbon - could be graphite, coal, diamonds..

@allison_may 3 жыл бұрын

I’m so thankful people like you and the other fabulous experts share this info! I definitely fell victim to allowing fear mongering to affect my shopping. For awhile, I refused to buy any sunscreens with denatured alcohol. I found that while I do have a few I like, my all time fav right now is the OG Anessa sunscreen with denatured alcohol. It feels like velvet on my skin, absorbs super fast and works well as a makeup primer.

@trivanaburris2854 3 жыл бұрын

I love this video. It makes people become more aware. Pay attention to your skin. It will tell you if something is wrong. Feel free to read the ingredient list and be knowledgeable. Just know if you want to know something works for you overall you are going to want to try it.

@nicholettessi 3 жыл бұрын

already binge-watching, but this video makes me want to binge-watching more of your contents. anyways, THANK YOU SO MUCH. feels like that wise friend telling me to not go overboard with anything

@Mishii17ify 3 жыл бұрын

You are the description of NON TOXIC skincare lover and ILOVEIT 🤍 Your positivity gives life to every skincare junkie

@leanda1971 3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou so much James 🤍💯

@phyliciawagner1628 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!! I use Urban Skin RX, I always circle back to it even when I take a break and try other products. My skin loves it.

@bunnyluuuvvv 3 жыл бұрын

Its such a relief to see this topic more popular now!! It just makes me think of all the good products i threw away when I first discovered cosdna 😭

@kaylichilds5204 3 жыл бұрын

This actually educated me beyond belief... thank you ☺️

@WendyW7508 3 жыл бұрын

I love your educating us all. I appreciate it and hope we all learn a thing or two. No fear mongering! Yea!

@meri328 3 жыл бұрын

Such a great video. If youre not interested in the science and chemistry behind skincare, you absolutely dont have to overwhelm yourself and stress about ingredient lists.

@correnag 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent video - thank you!

@mysgreeneyes 3 жыл бұрын

You are so wise :-) Love the practical approach, straight forward and positive.

@pakguongtepaks4540 3 жыл бұрын

It's so informative and useful for skincare obsessor

@kellypolek9177 3 жыл бұрын

Omg *James* thank you thank you thank you I have been recently going thru my many products and culling things keft c and right based on single ingredients and was getting so overwhelmed and confused because some of things I thought I should toss felt so good on my skin and never seemed to cause issues and decided to take a break so I could refocus-and here you are on my timeline- a gift straight from above, bless you and thank you!

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Aw I’m glad you enjoyed it! But I’m James 😝💜

@kellypolek9177 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh yeah holy crap I am just now realizing yall are twins I am so sorry I feel like a huge dummy. I just noticed the name and had to a double take (no pun intended) and realize wth was going on my apologies I will not make the mistake again!!

@kellypolek9177 3 жыл бұрын

Oh man I am not sure how long I've been watching you both and not realizing what I was actually seeing. Please don't be upset I really did not mean to be so ignorant I just don't pay enough attention sometimes but I will do better from now on. I'm gonna go wash this egg off my face and I'll see yall later.

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

I’m not upset at all!! We are identical twins so we are very used to this! We have a joint channel called the welsh twins if you are interested 😝

@kellypolek9177 3 жыл бұрын

Oh jeez and now that I'm looking you guys have covered this topic like ALOT. I'm now wondering who is getting me dressed in the mornings cos I apparently pay so little attention it must not be me...

@izzy6129 3 жыл бұрын

I love this video and it's comparisons to the food industry 😂 As someone who's worked as in Food Manufacture and Product Development I can tell you the same thing happens there too!

@stina9659 3 жыл бұрын

I think the most important things to remember is, no manufacturers will kill us on purpose, they want us to be happy and continue to buy their products

@ashg2895 3 жыл бұрын

I have a medical reason in which requires me to read the Ingredient list on a lot of things 😅. I do think it's important to be educated on what your putting into your body. When reading the Ingredients I pay more attention to beneficial ingredients that I know my skin loves, or ones I know my skin doesn't like. For example.. Argan oil does nothing for me at all.

@sabreenasyaharudin 3 жыл бұрын

It's great to see that everyone is advocating about the importance of not following the ingredient list! 🤍

@Tanvi_Soni 3 жыл бұрын

Yeah was watching Liah's video and got your notification.. Great.. Awesome content to come up with👍🏼..

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Haha hers was so much more in depth! I finished writing this video and then say her post on Instagram and was like....sh*t hers will be so much more informed 😂

@Tanvi_Soni 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh hey that's soo nice of you to say good things about Liah.. yeah it was informative.. But I found your content equally informative and useful.. infact you are the one who's always informed us about how fragrance and alcohol isn't always bad for the skin.. A Big Thumbs Up 👍🏼

@KattMurr 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for talking about denatured alcohol! I purchased a face cream recently and the 4th ingredient is organic SDA 38B which is denatured alcohol. I too thought it was "bad" for skin. Thank you for explaining that it isn't horrible!! And I also learned recently a hen is an adult female chicken. I thought they were different critters too...lol....,😁

@ashd7659 3 жыл бұрын

The only reason I read an ingredient list is to check if ingredients I DO want are on there. I never really concern myself with the other things. Ex. If I want ascorbic acid, I just make sure it's on there and I'm good! I trust that cosmetic chemists & formulators have created a quality product and I always read reviews too.

@vivivante8125 3 жыл бұрын

After watching my skin intently I sifted out certain things that do work for me. After that I might try to spot things that haven't worked in the past. But your so right, you can hardly tell by just the list ever! That's why product reviews are so vital. Also A LOT comes down to personal preference, like formulations and then does that product work in the formulation that I like 🙏

@daisy1587 3 жыл бұрын

‘Viscosity controllers’... I’m now considering this video as my chemistry revision video😂

@Lintrovert 3 жыл бұрын

I popped on to my subscription box and screamed when I saw new videos from both you and Liah on the SAME TOPIC, YASSSS I almost died, but not yet. If Hyram also did a video I probably would have died, 3 Royal skincare gurus I just can’t 😂

@prboi1985 3 жыл бұрын

Yo he popped tf off at 6:22 You can tell he been had some frustrations hunny! Lolol 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

@anisahk.9897 3 жыл бұрын

I cackled at the salt analogy lol. I do love this topic tho, I have been finding myself always doing research on ingredient websites before I buy/use any product on my face and hair. So you made a really good point that we must take into consideration multiple things not just the ingredient list itself.

@miraclerivera3585 3 жыл бұрын

I like the way you explained this, it really put things into perspective for me ✨😊 Thank you King

@theecologist10 3 жыл бұрын

Yas this is such an important and underrated topic, formulation is key. I learnt this with sunscreens, it's not the percentage of filters used that gives the Spf and UVA value, but they way the filters work in the formula

@iliutzaaa4328 3 жыл бұрын

Love this!!!

@claireallison1056 3 жыл бұрын

Gotta love those organic fed crystal chickens in the garden! Lol, super interesting topic though and loved the video!

@sandiemcdermott1286 3 жыл бұрын

I get frustrated with the all natural or organic ingredients. That does not make it good for your skin. It also does not prevent allergies. Many people are severely allergic to all natural ingredients.

@FaithDamarieMusic 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, love from Kenya ❤

@sophia6812 3 жыл бұрын

I think the only ingredients I avoid are artificial dyes because they irritate my skin, and if a product advertises having a specific product when it actually doesn't.

@LernTheConjurer 3 жыл бұрын

Not only am I grateful for this information but the fact that I spy Sailor Moon things in the background make my DAY! 😍💖

@frenchiexpink 3 жыл бұрын

I recommend "Beauty Brains" podcast, they often explain some of the science behind ingredients or products as they are cosmetic chemists with years of experience formulating products.

@abirose4875 3 жыл бұрын

This! Over the past couple of months I started ruling products out because of the ingredients list when actually I didn’t need to. I’ve stopped doing it now and it is so much easier! I don’t want to have to spend forever trying to find the “right” cleanser etc

@TimelordessTardis 3 жыл бұрын

So right! As an example, not all forms of alcohol are bad. People see this ingredient and back off of the product completely!!💜🤗💜

@Lxzunknown 3 жыл бұрын

For skin of colour all forms are x

@dorotejanavickaite4086 3 жыл бұрын

@@Lxzunknown if you learned that from Dr. V I would suggest you taking her knowledge with a grain of salt. She had said a lot of misinformation

@Lxzunknown 3 жыл бұрын

@@dorotejanavickaite4086 nope personal experience one product gave me burns on my cheeks and my gp said it was from the alcohol in the product x

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

they really aren't. Its a shame that POC have been scared into using so many different ingredients recently for no reason what so ever

@marteena81195 3 жыл бұрын

'Curly girl method' girls should watch this.

@marsy6359 3 жыл бұрын

Yes!! I had to stop doing it. Going silicone free was a bad idea. I have used sulfated shampoos that are far better than some sulfate free ones. I thought it would fix my hair! It ended up so gritty. There was also so little cgm information on protein, so my hair ended up overloaded and dry. Not to mention the demonization of things like alcohol! Ive seen it work so well for people but i think it goes about it the wrong way.

@lilpackerfreak 3 жыл бұрын

omg i dont even have curly hair but i try to follow curly girl approved ingredients, cuz i thought it would make my hair healthier....so far no difference lmaooo!

@kylaabeleda9053 3 жыл бұрын

I agree with the points you made, but after reading through the comments and how people react (overreact maybe), I do think that a better title would be "stop hyperfocusing on ingredient lists" I feel like that's more in line with the message you're saying. Much love!

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Haha it is!! But I also like to draw people in so I am share what I’ve learnt. It’s also good to see who actually watches before commenting 😏

@kylaabeleda9053 3 жыл бұрын

@@JamesWelsh I respect this 😂

@naomihicks8914 3 жыл бұрын

this was so helpful!!! i received a sample of Laneige's water bank moisture cream and was hesitant to use it due to it having fragrance but oh my gosh it is so nice on the skin and the scent is quite lovely

@trueworshippersonofgod836 3 жыл бұрын

Omg I've been searching the net for good skincare products and scanning through the list of ingredients before I saw this new upload video of yours and Stopped HAHAHA

@JamesWelsh 3 жыл бұрын

Ahhhh haha 😂😂😂

@lotte_theil 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for putting this out! I always used to get scared of ingedient lists, especially because a lot of people told me that you should at all times avoid alcohols and silicones. And boy, those things have many different names 😅

@sunnyday_lemonbars 3 жыл бұрын

And, not all alcohol is bad. There are hydrating and moisturizing alcohols

@Cara-39 3 жыл бұрын

There's a lot of misinformation about both. Silicones don't clog pores because they're too large of a molecule to penetrate the skin. They also wash off with cleanser. Alcohol comes in multiple forms, hydrating and drying but formulation and dosage matters. A lot of people have demonized certain sunscreens because drying alcohol is found high up on the ingredients list but it's there so the sunscreen doesn't remain a thick, wet paste on the skin. Too many people hear of a bad experience someone had with an ingredient and automatically label it bad, when that's not the case.