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Bricky: "We've found that the police never make mistakes in their investigations when we review these cases for Detective Ridiculous." Also Bricky: M E T H H E A D J U S T I C E

Clearly Mothman ate them. Right after he ran out of Alcatras.

It is me, I am the disappearance, I have appeared.

As an Oklahoman, I can confirm there is almost nothing in this state.

They were such a messed up family that I am going to assume that the whatever lead to their death was in fact 1 of 12 other crazy things we will never know about

As grim as it sounds, if they only found partial skeletal remains, exsanguination or strangulation could have been used on the mother and daughter.

I'm at 11 minutes in, and Bricky is REALLY hung up on "living in a storage container" xD Update: 20:32 and we're back to container life!

My theory; The Jamison's made drugs, they went out to inspect the property planning on using it to set up a drug lab away from the risk of being discovered by neighbors. The shipping container house is commonly used by preppers as a cheap bunker, and are usually buried in dirt (so no windows for prying eyes) after being set up for off-the-grid living. They met their regular buyer there so they could figure out the best spot to do deals on the property too, maybe the dealer was financing the property purchase and/or drug lab set up. While there, they also did a deal, hence the money. After stashing the money in the truck they returned to continue inspecting the property. Their client decided to do some of the drugs, which the Jamisons participated in. Either intense paranoia set in for them from the drugs and/or it was just a bad batch of drugs, and it resulted in the deaths one way or another through some sort of drug induced psychosis.

In 2013 outside of a town in Ga not too far from where I grew up, construction workers doing a highway expansion found the mostly skeletal remains of someone who had been missing for about 8 years. The authorities determined that it was the remains of a man in his early-60's who had been missing, they had determined that he was shot in the back with a .308, a common round used in deer hunting. The man who was killed had no history prior to his disappearance of any history of Alzheimer's or similar illnesses, his remains were found face down and it looked like to the authorities that his remains had been stashed. The authorities ruled that it was a careless hunter who saw some movement and shot what they thought was a deer, and then found out "Oh no, I just killed a guy! I can't go to jail!", then hid the body. The remains were found a few miles from the missing person's house and only a couple of dozen yards from the edge of the highway. There had been a search of the area and no one found the body. Where I grew up, everyone knows at least one person who was killed or witnessed someone being killed by a careless hunter. The state and local authorities did an extensive search of the area for 4 months and the family and friends of the missing man carried on searches for 18 months after that. The area they found the missing(now manslaughtered, possibly murdered) individual's remains was a heavily forested area. At some point they left the truck, maybe they had a huge fight, some words were said in the heat of the moment, and the wife grabbed their daughter and left the truck, maybe she had a "Fuck this, I'm out!" moment, maybe she thought that her life and the life of her daughter was in danger, maybe she had been off her meds for a few days and wasn't in the right state of mind, and she went off into the woods with the daughter in tow, regardless, shortly afterwards the husband stormed to follow after them into the woods. Along came a hunter who failed to regard the number 3 rule of firearms safety: Be sure of your target and what's beyond it, saw some movement thinking it was a deer or a bighorn sheep or whatever was in season and shot. When the hunter came up where they thought was an animal they were hunting, it was a case of "Oh no, I just killed a man and there's 2 witnesses! I can't go to jail!", killed the wife and daughter, and stashed their remains. Think about all the missing person's cases that happens in rural areas where there is a lot of hunters, there is a good chance that at least some of them are killed because someone while out hunting was being irresponsible by not confirming their target and what's beyond it, shoots at some movement thinking it was an animal they were hunting, only to find out it was a person, then says "Oh no, I just killed someone! I can't go to jail!", then stashes the body where they know no one will find it.

I live in Oklahoma, not too far from Eufala. Meth is a big problem across the whole state, and to me, this reads as them trying to move out to the country to build a meth lab, and they got capped by somebody who didnt want the competition.

My parents used to talk about how my grandparents would get into fights and then not talk to eachother for months, using other people as the in between. I could see them possibly getting into a fight, loading the car for their trip and getting mad that the other had packed stuff they didnt want packed and them constantly pulling stuff in and out of the car

There are plenty of organs too shoot at that will kill you, and then decompose. And a 1000 volunteers isn't that much to search a big area like that. And depending on time of day and light conditions when they were in the area the bodies were found in the could easily have missed them.

Theory: the parents were making and selling drugs. Living in the middle of the woods makes for easy hiding of production, the money could have come from sales, and the family-only view of the site would allow the parents to check how a drug lab could be set up without having to sneak around a real estate agent. Money might have been to make an immediate offer for the land if they decided it was suitable. For the deaths: possible execution, Bobby shot because it's personal and/or he fought back, wife and daughter get throat cut or strangled.

As for not being able to tell the causes of death, wild animals will take parts of bodies. They could be lined up right next to each other, but an arm got dragged off. Also, they could only confirm that the father had a hole in the back of the head. The other skulls could have been crushed or otherwise broken, making it impossible to determine if they had a hole. A .22 doesn't always leave the skull, even at close range. That could explain why they couldn't find an exit either.

The background details seem to suggest meth use and the daughter being killed and the picture taken make me think they were killed in drug gang action. Maybe they were scoping out the property to set up a lab and they were forced off the road by "competitors." There's no way the killers would've known about the money and even if the victims told them they might have thought it was a delaying tactic.

As someone who takes drugs, I can confirm that drugs are one hell of a drug

Was a great episode! Shame they never discovered what fully happened. Id love to get another dissapearence, but a recently solved one. You go through another dissapearence, go through the facts, theories, then go through the real story/facts

A grandparent saying "my child would never kill my granddaughter" isn't a reliable source, it happens so often in tragic cases of families being murdered by a parent that it comes completely out of left field for all the surviving family members.

I do know people that have made pretty nice storage container houses. They use it like the frame for your house then build around it

The lined up bodies implies completely another party and execution. The amount of money and behavior must mean something about drugs. Why would they even be moving out there? To start doing meth stuff? The bodies not found could mean they where kidnapped before brought back and killed. Regardless of not all the bodies having holes in the skulls i feel the position of the bodies heavily implies execution. but why would the bodies stay lined up after 4 years? That picture of Madison is haunting. That poor kid.

You guys should do the conspiracy of the "boys who fell asleep on the Train Tracks" that involves a lot of mysterious accidents

As a white woman I'm required to love true crime 🎉

Lesson of this podcast: "Oklahoma, like meth: not even once"

Whoohoo! I love detective ridiculous, please don't stop doing these

I speculate (purely from listening to the evidence listed below) that they weren't making drugs (meth), but potentially had the conversation to start selling. The trip to Red Oaks was the start of a front to meet a distributor, who either lived in or was going to "set up shop" with the Jamison family in Red Oaks, and the Jamison family would be the distributors. This may also be too specific of a speculation, however the take away is that they were looking to start selling. How I envision the story: the distributor, who either lived in the area, so supported by no other vehicles going through the area or planned ahead with going to the area a day or two before and after without interacting with the local populace, met the family and realized they were bad for business. This was due to mental instability in both partners (bipolarity in the wife and the instable mental state caused by pain pills). Due to them meeting face to face he had to get rid of them, hence the "executioner style" bodies found later in 2013. This theory would support why there was no evidence of forced removal. Furthermore, the question as to why would they'd bring their dog and daughter was either instructions by the distributor (who wanted to ensure all possible ties would be in one area) or the beginning of an actual move to the area to start this venture. As far as the search goes, the distributor held the bodies of the three after murdering them either out in the wilderness or in a controlled environment in which the distributor operated. The elements could clear most of the evidence if the murder was outside, which in my theory would only be the blood of the father, as the mother and child, as pointed out in another commenter's post, were strangled. If the distributor was from the local area, they would have likely pre-established relations that could steer the search party away from their property. Furthermore, once the initial search cleared the surrounding area of the car, which would have been day 1 of the search, the distributor would then bury the bodies close to the initial scene of the crime. My initial speculation is founded with the following thoughts: in a poor financial decision and in an area where crack is prevalent, it isn't a reach to consider the option of becoming a seller. There seems to be foul play in a remote area, so someone pre-established would make sense. Of course there are holes in this theory as there would have had to be some proof of contact or something the suggest this, however, I think if you discredit someone who has been in the game for awhile, you are doing yourself a disservice. Its easy to believe the intelligence level in rural Oklahoma is low, but then you are putting aside the potential outliers which lay in most societies. I think the possibility of someone who preplanned all of this is possible. The missing bag from the car? Evidence of contact between the family and this distributor. If there are other facts i missed that could disprove this please let me know!

Theory - they were killed far away, someone else drove their truck to the place without knowing about the cash, and the witness intentionally misled the police.

Yo AdRic crew! Oklahoma is beautiful, but did you know we're home to one of the first McDonalds built over an interstate in Vinita,OK 🍔🍟

I love how Shy's avatar in the art is just like "No Fs given" and keeps drinking

This feels like a season of Fargo

I need to see Bricky's reaction to The Body on the Reservoir.

Loved this episode. For a half minute swore the music near the end is from eve online.

'Ghosts on the roof.' Ah, Draugr, then.

32000 dollars isn't an addiction meth buy, it's a retail meth buy, either up front or past debt, and you would absolutely use cash for that. And you bring your kid and dog to make it less likely that the other guy won't kill you, especially if the relationship is already on shaky ground. You'd put your child in that danger because you're a meth dealer, and likely a user, and are already not thinking straight. The seller is unfortunately the type of person who will clip a kid because he was planning on doing it anyway and your brought them. So far this sounds like a deal gone bad.

As a LeVayist Satanist....The book outright denies the existence of such things as ghosts. Hilariously.

Very interesting video as always!!

These guys probably got in trouble with local drug rings and tried to dip

37:55 oh DK, it’s sweet how sheltered you are

Love the strong format until the end where it just breaks down and the episode ends with DK screaming

Am i the only one who got mildly annoyed with how DK kept referring to them as the "Madison family"

Hey Brickey, writing from my fiancé's account here, we both really enjoy listening to Detective Ridiculous. I did want to address your laughing response to the pastor saying the Jamisons were "'engaged' in spiritual warfare." The quote, its context and timing of seems important because yes, it would be absolutely absurd and if I pastor said some people--specifically the Jamisons-- were "engaged" in spiritual warfare AFTER knowing (if the pastor knew) that the Jamisons had a satanic bible is both absurd and should be grounds for that pastor being fired/stepping down from office as irresponsible and lack of leadership. Of course, there are multiple layers to this. I spent 15 years in Native Christian ministry. Only 5 % if that of Native Nations know Jesus personally. So, it saddens my heart that the wife might have been responding to evil in the traditions and/or attitude she had been taught to respond to spiritual entities or to people (like the people doing drugs) in the area. Whenever I hear of encounters like this with the supernatural, it saddens me that the Jamisons lacked people knowledgeable in both the spiritual and talented in how to communicate with them to help counsel them. One of my big questions is whether or not the pastor they looked to--whether he encouraged them to leave the storage container home in the woods. You can't force adults, but you can at least make compelling logical presentation as to why such a move would be good for all of them. Particularly with a young child's safety, even if it were a "missionary" type of situation or perceived or human agenda (be it on the Jamisons part of the pastor or church folks) to unwisely place a family in the midst of people dealing in drugs and violence. There are still many unknowns about this situation that I have questions about as a Christian that leave me wondering. One thing I do know though is there are forces of good and of evil and not always on the physical/tangible realm within our scope of "understanding". Spiritual warfare DOES exist and evil and the holy do manifest at times in the physical realm. Spiritual warfare is not something to scoff or laugh at, despite cases such as the Jamisons that leave people who hear stuff or situations like this thinking Christians at large are full of crap, unwise, undiscerning, crazy etc. If you ever want to talk about that topic, or have questions, I cannot promise I know everything (because I don't) but I know a decent bit about spiritual warfare so if you have questions, I would be happy to answer as best I can and have other believers who may also listen to you also weigh in, so it's not just one person saying something. Have a great day.

Last comment. In regards to the gone girl reference, book was written in 2012, Gillian Flynn is from the Ozarks area (MO, OK, AR), and her works are inspired by true events. So its 100% possible this inspired the book.

Bricky saying there's nothing in Oklahoma because it only has 4 million people is funny to me as a Vermonter. A state with 645,000 people. Oklahoma has 6 times the population of my state.

keep bein awesome

I love the intro for Detective

Bricky should review Killing Floor 1 if he hasn't yet.

The 2.7 initial search failure makes my mind immediately jump to a classic 411, and the other "strange" circumstances kinda point to it. But the bodies do scream execution, and while a gun is common, its not the only way, being strangled or having your neck sliced open both wouldnt show up on a skeleton if done right.

44:11 Shy, that a 38-. [Incoherent, high pitched speech] Wait, they make those? [More incoherent, high pitched speech] Gun nut statement retracted.

Hope y’all do a video on The Land Between The Lakes story, disturbing stuff there. Also the other guy who worked with Ryan is Shane, The Non Believer! XD

It's so weird that their are people now where early 2000s and 2010s is a mystical time that's old now. Ik weird cases happen every year but like man. The world changes when you're older and the 2000s is now weird true crime mysteries

There have been growing reports of Cartels operating in the woods of the US threatening people and potentially being linked to several disappearances, it could be a situation like that

I'm only 10 minutes in and is it weird that I'm like "yeah I know right where Eufaula and Red Oak are"? (Also Red Oak is about 20 times the size of where I live so it's not THAT small lol)

Watching this episode directly after Bricky’s Killing Floor video is a treat

As someone born and raised in Oklahoma, yeah most of that tracks. Like all of it sounds plausible 😆

Another suggestions for a good episode would be the missing 411 case of charles mccullar. Weird earth in an odd spot.

The one thing i wanna way is, that droning background noise is way too loud :(

What about any exit wound and/or bullet in the skull cavity?

They found the dog on my birthday I can die now knowing a puppers was saved on my 10th birthday thanks DK

Another theory: They had $35k in CASH. I doubt they were just junkies, they were possibly dealers, and scoping a new site for making. Why else would you want a single cargo crate on such a large property? Ventilation would be perfect. But then, they may have stepped onto someone else's turf and capped to end a conflict of intrest

My bad if this is rude or something, I would love to see a colab of detective ridiculous and chilluminati, I think the vibes would either be at cross purposes or fully in synch. Or I'm just a fan boy who wants all his favorite KZfaqrs to know each other and make content together

I'm late but my question is in regards to the fathers "hole in the head." If he did get shot, were there two holes in the skull or just one, cause if they're just one did a spooky ghost give them a labotomy?

Hell yeah brother

Dallas-Fort Worth has a population of 6.8 Million.

Bricky be like “oh, that’s such a small population size.” My brother in Christ, you live in the populated state in the Inited States. Anything will seem small population wise to you.

Please check out the boys on the tracks case it’s insane.

Did the dog recover and find a new home?

Not sure if y’all take suggestions but an episode on the Murder of Artemus Ogletree in room 1046 would be neat.

he never loop back to what was in the trailer

Is that a drinking horn in the background there?

Anyone know if the patreon goal was reached for the Skaven Episode yet?

As an avid Buzzfeed Unsolved/Watcher watcher I can confirm Bricky is Shane and DK is Ryan.

25:31 drugs…. It’s definitely drugs….

I think the theory that they went to look at the plot of land, came across some illegal activity and were killed by the people committing the illegal activity is the most plausible.

Bobby had no exit would for the suspected bullet nor was one found in the skull...

Okay im 33 minutes in, im surprised how accurate my predictions were. As soon as i heard the brief rundown of the scenario: family dropped everything, moved to a remote place to live in shipping container, went to check it out, vanished with all their stuff and $34 thousand in the car. My first thought was "okay, they were running from someone because their life was in danger. The money was likely owed to or stolen from a criminal organization and were coming to collect. Set criminal organization or gang found out where they were running to, got the drop on them and killed them. When certain organization want you dead, most of the time there is no body, you just "go missing" I recognized a lot of the signs, ive seen this too many times in my personal life. Now knowing he had beef with his father who was gang related, it just confirming my suspicions

Aw yeah! Another Warhammer vid- what's going on?

So personally the only one bullet hole might have the same explanation as the body's distance from the road. They were shot at, killed, and dragged away from the road to hide the evidence. A lot of holes still remain but I feel this covers up most of them. The dad just caught one of the bullets being shot at them on the back of his skull.

Ngl the Hunters finding the car and then the bodies sounds sus, maybe they accidently shot bobby thinking he was an animal and then they strangled or did some other thing to the Wife and child to not leave witnesses, the bodies are wayyy too perfectly placed for any of the two parents or animals to be responsible, also the lack of the gun would mean that someone must have taken it, also, if they were left to elements they wouldnt stay in line, a bear or Wolf would move around the Bones, they 100% burried the bodies and then 4 years later either the elements uncovered them or they dug them back up for some reason

Not knowing the cause of death really hampered this case being solved as that could have provided alot of insight. I think its reasonably clear as well judging from some of her behaviours, the mothers Bipolar wasn't being managed very well, and perhaps she wasn't on the right mix of meds. Stick potential drugs into the story and you have a person who might have been dangerously unstable. The unfortunate truth is that she may very well have hurt her own daughter if she was having a very bad episode exasperated by other drugs.

I'm REALLY confident about my theory. The mother killed the father with the .22 and killed herself and her daughter with the meds. Nothing crazy just a very sad story that unfortunately happens quite often. You go all the episode taking the grandma's words like holy gospel, but despite all my respect for that grieving lady I just can't do the same. She says her mentally unstable daughter would never have killed her granddaughter because she loved her too much, but that means nothing to me, especially if her psychiatric condition could have been exacerbated by drugs. She is emotionally involved in the story, of course she doesn't want to think her darling daughter would do such a thing. People do kill people they love though, a lot more than they kill strangers actually. The methlab theories sound crazy to me, it could have been ghosts or aliens though.

Bricky, DK, Ryan, and Shane at a haunted house…. Please….

Wait, wait, wait, hold the phone. Warhammer real life?! That's a hat right there. "Warhammer RL?" Thats a many question, yo!

if it really was drugs..i mean that shit does crazy things to your chemistry...also sadge for the kid...not a chance to livea life really..to live love and loss...but i do enjoy these videos. wish i could hear outta my left ear but oh well...maybe i'll go crazy and u can end up making a vid like this on a crazy canuck.

THE DOG LIVED!

I Gave like automatically, didn’t regret it.

Cant wait for a titan sub episode

So in the show moonshines if I remember right during a drop they traded cars so the guy dropping the moonshine took the otherguys car full of money

It is possible to hate your spouse more than you love your child.

She shot him in the back of the head. He fell face first. Then she poisoned the little girl and herself and lay down next to him. Animals eating the flesh accidentally turned her and daudgter's body face down. Gun got carried away. If it was covered in blood, jackal might have take it to lick the blood.

Another episode that has background music... sorry, i wont finish this one

27:42 ….CANT FIND THE ELLICIT DRUGS IF THERE ARENT ANY LEFT!!!

Husband got shot and the other two’s throats got slit ? Therefore it would be not able to tell how they died after decomp ?

*Empty* pill bottles. Drug induced delerium, wandering looking for the lot, husband goes down, knocks his head. Wife and kid stay with him, die of side effects and exposure... Maybe.

I have a theory as to them being dead their bodies were found around November the leaves have fallen off. So that's why the hunters found them. They disappeared in October the leaves have fallen already or are starting too. 1000 of people went to search, along with dogs and a whole bunch of stuff, for them but could not find them even though they were 2 miles away from the truck. It should not be too hard to find people if most of the leaves of the forest are gone. So my theory they were kidnapped and killed off the site and the killers brought them back and dumped them to make it look like they died in the forest.

the father only had one hole in his head, right? typically bullets make 2 an entry and exit. 22 caliber however, usually have such a low velocity that they dont leave the body. so it is entirely possible that the mother's gun was used. on the father. granted that wouldnt explain how the mother and child died afterwards though....

Gps Coordinates? In 1930's? 😮 (Oh I got the deckade wrong, my bad.)

Michigan Dogman story when

Maybe the his dad , since he landed in a nursing home. Ordered some people to threaten his sons family. And after they were killed he made his piece with himself and died.

Did they ever try starting the truck? What if it broke down or something and they were just stuck and went out into the woods to find help or ran across some methheads/cultusts?

Cartel got em