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She's abusing them, like Abby did to her.

And the abuse cycle continues....😢

As an abuse survivor, giving abusers pity, the benefit of the doubt, and devil's advocate can often enable them to evade accountability and maybe hurt again. They are often worse under the surface than they seem. That's why it's so frustrating to see people defend them, and why we shouldn't do it.

And this why abuse doesn’t “build character” like abusers will say. It breeds other abusers.

Your upbringing isn't your fault, but healing from it and deciding how you'll treat others is your responsibility.

putting a maxi pad on a child's bleeding belly button is fucking insane. the cycle continues and jojo needs to address that shit immediately. you don't force children to work like this. absolutely disgusting

You know what they say. The abused one can become the abuser (keyword CAN)

I get that it can be hard for a 14 year old to stand up to adults and advocate for herself as far as medical issues, but at the same time, *where was this girl's mother??* WHY wasn't *she* standing up and saying, "You're insane! My daughter's not performing only a few weeks after spinal surgery!" Yes, abusive behaviors are awful, but that's why standing up and advocating for yourself is SO important, and if they won't take that advocating seriously, you walk the f**k away!

I never understood how people watched Dance moms casually, and didn't immediately get a feeling of disgust at the obvious abuse. Now we see what allowing that kind of abuse does. The cycle goes on.

As a mother of 3 girls… there is no way in hell you’re treating my child that way. The ‘fame’ is not worth the trauma. People need to stand up and advocate for their children.

I wish people would stop putting their little girls through this kind of thing 😔

I haven't finished watching the video, but the girl with the spine issues, I don't understand where her mother was in all of this... How come she allowed her daughter to perform so early after surgery. It was kinda her fault as well. Siwa's behavior is disgusting nevertheless 🤮

Hope that kid realizes the woman sitting next to her is also a huge problem.

I've recently been getting into dance moms (i know - it's bad. turned on the tv one day and it was playing and now im kinda hooked) and this honestly makes a lot of sense. jojo has said things like "yeah abby was mean but it was only because she wanted me to be the best dancer i could be" when she was like 14. it's very clear to me that this way of growing up has been very normalized to her. that doesn't make what she's doing to these kids okay, she is legally now an adult and SHOULD know better, but i understand how she's kind of been groomed into thinking this is how kids are supposed to be raised. pretty horrific tbh. these poor kids.

WHY would someone AS A PARENT take their kid AFTER SURGERY???? That sounds like bad parenting more than bad management That sounds like popularity was more important than physician advice. .

Oh my gosh, that little girl calling her mom "Girl" 😆

Jojo siwa is one year younger then one of colleen main victims. Adam McIntyre and adam & jojo are in the same lgbt community and she called confirmed victims liars. Her age is not an excuse for anything. Never will be.

Thumbnail: Jojo Siwa is much worse than we thought! My Brain: well duh shes friends with Colleen.....😬😬😬😬😬😬

Leah was one of the oldest girls in the group and one of the girls who was a top runner for getting into the group. If this is how they treated one of the girls who JoJo and her mom seemingly liked imagine how the younger ones were handling things. Jojos mom was trying to make it just like dance mom’s in regard to the mothers interacting with each other as well. This is 100% JoJo and her mom thinking it worked for us then it’s okay.

One of the major problems is people 'in the industry' always used the excuse "oh that's just how it is, if you can't handle it you'll NEVER get anywhere" and use fear to make their performers feel like they HAVE to deal with abuse for the sake of their future. Basically every industry that "makes stars" uses this bs and it won't be stopped unless serious change is made.

By no means am I trying to explain away the way the families were treated. Just one little part made me feel odd. I grew up welfare-poor, church-donation-poor. My mother saw I had some singing talent when I 12, so she struck a deal with the local music school that she would perform odd jobs at the school to cover my lessons. But the big difference was that I wasn't *working* for my voice teacher and had to cover work-related expenses to keep studying. Barter can be a poor person's only option for anything above foood and shelter.

Okay, but where were the parents. Why were they not stepping in to protect their children? The allegations are terrible and theres not defending it but theres additional culpability here. And something about the medical situation isn't adding up for me. Id be interested to see an actual pleading in a lawsuit

I'm autistic and have ADHD, neither of which were diagnosed until well into my adulthood. I was verbally, emotionally and physically abused regularly for so much, my mom bragging on numerous occasions how she would treat me in public when I misbehaved, and had only continued the emotional and verbal abuse up until I went no contact. What happened to me was unconscionable and has forever scarred me in a way that I will be fighting my entire life. It was not okay, it should not be repeated, and I do my best to ensure I don't repeat those abuses on my children. 'I went through it and I turned out great' isn't an okay excuse. It's a bad one and she really should know better how it feels to be subjected to that.

Dear god...I cannot imagine doing that after a spinal surgery. I had a spinal tap performed and it took a week before I could be vertical for more than a few hours in a row without a massive headache.

Jojo is 100% at fault and she needs to be punish, but just like the mothers of dance moms, why are they allowing their children to be abused to the point they are working after surgery? Like I get it you need money but that is your child! You're suppose to protect them, say no , document it and sue them ! don't put up with it for years. The cycle will just continue! And as they talk about it they say it so light heartily. This is serious! This just shows how normalize abuse is.

JoJo siwa being treated badly (not saying the word so my comment doesn’t get flagged- not deminishing her experience) is no longer able to be an excuse for how she treats people around her and especially this group. She’s a social media influencer as well as everything else, being that she originated from dance moms means that she would’ve slipped into dance moms tiktok many times and much of it points out how horrible they treated the children. If she thinks it’s okay to treat children like this, her morals are insanely corrupt moreso then just someone with trauma that they haven’t dealt with. She sees treating people badly- especially children- as okay. Her ex’s have come forward claiming that she treated them poorly as well. I really hope all this new information finally brings her down and maybe she’ll get the help she needs. But that being said your trauma isn’t an excuse to be a bad person.

Few clarifications required - They were on America's Got Talent, not American Idol - 4 didn't leave. 2 were fired, Kiya and Leigha. 2 left, Bella and Kinley.

I have spina bifita and have had some tethered cord surgeries for it ! Oh MY goodness. You’re fairly bedridden the first 2 days depending on how young ( bounce back ) you are. You start walking around the second or third day. You CAN NOT FALL OR YOU CAN DAMAGE YOUR SPINE AND NERVES. Exercise is not recommended unless you’ve fully healed unless you’re being watched by a doctor or physical therapist. Keep in mind this is my personal experience as someone who has had 3 surgeries. But damaging the spinal cord before healing WILL CAUSE PERMANENT DAMAGE. I did PT exercise 3 months after my last surgery and earned permanent bilateral cluneal nerve damage.

Hi, child of a "star mom" here - and let me tell you: this kind of thing ruins your self worth and self esteem. My mom would pull me to these stupid things for singing ALL the time. If I didn't get picked, or I was turned away, I got punished and lambasted for the rest of the day. Then, the practicing would start all over again....and I hated it. With a passion. I still don't like to sing in front of people because of her. I will shut up the instant anyone walks in, even if they're looking to give a compliment. Forget that. I don't ever want to hear another person's opinion on my voice /ever/ again - good or bad. They put you up there like meat, judge you openly, and then kick you on your way. It's brutal. It's demeaning. It's all for the parents - and not for you, the child. Any money I ever did make my mom ate right up. Yesterday, I took my kid to a dinosaur event at the city convention center...and they had one of those Star Quests things there for dancers. My daughter said it looked like so much fun - until we saw young girls crying in the hallway. I had to explain to her why all these pretty girls dressed up so wonderfully were crying - and she was really sad about it. Do not do these things to your kids. If they say they want to go - okay, support them - but let them know they are literally a sheep going for the slaughter. If you aren't rich or famous, then you're doing something right in your life. Only those who are cut-throat and unkind make it big 99% of the time. That rare 1% of kind, venerable wealthy people are too few to matter - and they definitely don't attend these nasty cattle-corral like kind of meat-picking sessions where everyone is used except the talent agency. Seriously. It's a waste of a day. With the internet now, you're way better off just making a video of you dancing. The comments there would be far less harsh. Trust me. I have a life-long weight problem because I cannot tell you how many times I was turned away for being "too fat". It upset my mom so much she put me on a diet at 8 years old. 8. Dieting. Imagine all your friends getting cake at a party, but you can't have a slice because we have auditions coming up! :D ....It. Sucks. DO NOT DO THIS TO YOUR KIDS, PLEASE! See? No excuse, Jo-jo. I was raised in a horrible environment, and I don't even get close to that kind of behavior. My daughter is raised that all girls are pretty, everyone has a talent, and our self-worth comes from within.

I'm from Minnesota, I live about 20 minutes from the mall of America. If they were here in winter, the cold here really is no joke. It can be painfully cold for people without asthma or any breathing issues but for people who have medical complications it can be unbearable. I went to school with kids who were forced to stay inside for recess because the cold would set off their symptoms. I have an autoimmune issue that makes me more sensitive to the cold so I feel like I understand at least to some degree how she would have felt and my heart goes out to her!

What a shame that shes continuing the cycle rather than breaking from it

This seems to be a textbook case of someone who was treated badly repeating the abuse because that's all they know. There's no way Jojo had a carefree childhood.

I want to contact Starstable Entertainment and point them to this video. Jojo had a small sponsored bit in that game and her merch is still available. Wonder how they would feel about having an abuser's merch in their game.

I had spinal cord surgery and wasn’t allowed to run, jump or swim for over a month. I wasn’t allowed to walk for a week. I can’t believe she was full on DANCING!

The name Colon Broom conjures up some truly horrific imagery 😂

I think more and more will come out about Jojo. She was raised to believe that you do anything to get ahead, to get your fame, to succeed. And to smile through it all.

Colon Broom reminds me of an SNL commercial with Phil Hartman for a cereal called "Colon Blow." "You would have to eat 100 bowls of their cereal to get the same amount of fiber as 1 bowl of Colon Blow!"

If Siwa's team says that "these allegations are 100% provably false," then he should prove it.

Notice the timings of these allegations and her new "era", I think JoJo thinks that we will somehow forget all of this

It makes sense that Jojo would have to pass the torch. Her fans are still very young so evolving her brand to suit her age would be a risky business move but also, I'd imagine that as she outgrows her very colorful, sparkly, marketable image, it wouldn't make sense to continue being the face of it. It's just a shame that at this point, it seems she is actively choosing to pass on her trauma, as well.

There seems to be an attitude in arts and entertainment of "paying your dues" which translates to "accepting being treated like literal garbage for years until you either make it or burn out." As opposed to holding the door open for the next generation, I think a lot of ppl will slam it in their face until they've "proved themselves"

I get it… all the other girl in the reunion was crying, but she was saying how she just thought Abby was always right, so she sees Abby in a certain way that she wants her dancers to see her like… I feel so bad for Jo Jo just because of how bad she’s been manipulated through her life but it’s still messed up what she done to thoughs kids the cycle pretty round and circle has no end 😢😢

Jo Jo and Jess aside, what mother has a child that is bleeding out their bellybutton and you jus let that continue

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It always interested me that Jojo and Abby still have a good relationship when no one else stayed in contact due to the abuse. Birds of a feather flock together, I guess.

You put the whole situation at the feet of the Siwa's, and they absolutely deserve the lion's share of blame, but to not call out the girl's mother seems for what I would call, at my most generous, a series of horrible judgements concerning her daughter's health and well-being seems disingenuous to me.

I myself have spina bifida. It wasn't found til I was 22yrs old, that surgery made me lose 82% of my spinal fluid. Brain was quite literally laying on my skull! You don't know head pain til your tender brain has no cushion....it took a month to gain that back and a FULL YEAR for recovery. The fact they had a CHILD doing ANYTHING only WEEKS after surgery could have paralyzed her!!!! That's not even an exaggeration, they could've put her in a damn WHEELCHAIR!!!!

You're such a decent human. I'm glad that you're as popular as you are. These small voices need people like you.

Always be careful with psyllium husk, less is often better.

I don't know what surgery she had but I have had spinal surgery (scoliosis) and I got out of the hospital as quick as I was allowed to and I cannot imagine dancing on that I was scared to walk down stairs alone wtf

I really loved Jojo. But when the first girl was out of the Xomgpop group and they never talked about her. Like she was never there. I saw her true colors. I stopt liking her and the group. I'm happy others left the group to

Narcissists backing up their fellow narcissists

i Do believe this is an outcome of her own upbringing, but that doesnt excuse it, shes about my age and should KNOW that people see that behaviour as wrong and if for no other reason THAT should keep her from perpetuating this cycle.

For engagement: I really liked the impromptu word of the day segment lol. I know the feeling of seeing a word and just having to look it up immediately

I can only have so much sympathy for the moms of these kids, because they're partially complicit in the abuse Jojo and her mom put their daughters through. It's very frustrating to see Jojo going down the same path as Abby.

Damn the wearing sweaters and cranking up the heat unlocked a memory. When I was dancing there was a trick dancers used in the hopes of losing weight, they'd sweat off pounds while not actively dancing. The studio I went to never encouraged this, but dancers would wear heavy sweaters/scarves/legwarmers even in the summer heat. I remember going to a winter competition/workshop in the 90s, one of the studios that came all the dancers were covered and huddled next to heaters. The studios where I live educated dancers around 2003 to stop the sweating off pounds trick, after several dancers ended up in the hospital due to dehydration. Why is JoJo shoving these girls in a heated room with sweaters on and quickly dehydrating them by having them dance for hours?

you mean a friend of what's her face Ukulele apology person is a horrible person? color me shocked. shocked!

I got sad when that little girl didn’t even want to say the censored version of the swear word. That just goes to show the fact they should have been treated like children and not slaves. Hell, don’t even work adults this hard.

Wait.... A kid was "forced" to work? I'm kinda confused why wouldn't the parents just pull their kids out of the group? Are they contracted or something?

Her mother, Jess, is living her life through JoJo, as were all the mother's from Dance Mom's. What Goes Around, Comes Around. Just look at how Jess acted on Dance Mom's, her actions on the show were not far from how she must be in real life.

My son has spina bifida. I would never have allowed him to be in that situation. While what jojo and her mom did is horrible, that mother didnt protect her child. The bleeding through her bellybutton was probably from her mace getting hurt. As a mother, especially of a disabled child, you have to advocate for them!

As soon as i saw the notification, i hurried and clicked on it. Happy Sunday everyone

I just rewatched the whole series and THIS particular mother and daughter duo. The MOTHER is the one that said I want to give my daughter every opportunity no matter what because it doesn’t happen often. She also stated that she does NOT want her daughter’s diagnosis to hinder her in anyway or have jojo and her mother to look at her any differently than another child in any circumstance. As far as payment… her mother paid for their air bnb. As far as getting paid for promotion or pictures, food, travel, places to stay… it is 100% the parent’s responsibility. I not only had children that were in 2 industries (oldest in print ads & commercials)2nd was a toy model on boxes). They both were in very high level competitive gymnastics (oldest a level 10 and 2nd a level 9) both children were also in theatre. I 100% was responsible for all these things out of MY pocket. I’m also an elite level gymnastics coach… sorry… it’s our JOB to correct kids, teach them the ability to lose disappointingly with Grace and win humbled with fire to achieve more. Dance kids workout and practice at a lower amount of hours and physical strength. High level gymnasts practice 40 plus Hours a week on top of strength core/isolated conditioning, endurance and weights along with numbers in routines on 4 events. These parents knew what they were getting into. It’s not uncommon for talented kids with parents that can’t afford the monthly price of 600.00 minimum a month to work for the gym as cleaners, front desk clerks, personal assistant, meet coordinator etc to help take some of the cost off the price and expenses. Additionally combine the price of leotards, grips that need replacement every 3/4 weeks at 80.00 ea and travel to meets that have an entry fee for each competition at $120-$250 all over the states and countries just to compete. Not including coaches fees to just show up for your kid. Then the families hotels, rented car, food expenses or extra practices at another gym location during travel is the PARENTS responsibility. These parents know what they are getting into- it’s just because it was on TV it’s easier to make Jojo and her mom the bad guy. Look up where she danced before and inquire about prices, competition and hours along with travel fees … I will assure you… it’s not pennies. It’s the MOTHERS job to parent and care about her daughters health if in fact it was that dyer, it was HER responsibility to pull her and not put the blame on the teacher or Jojo (a child) to know better than the mother and keep the kid safe!

Fame is not worth destroying your child or allowing someone else to do so. If the attention of the masses is so important to these parents, they should do all the work to become famous rather than force or convince their child to fulfill their dream in their place.

4:47 okay, I'm apparently older going on my teens, because the name "Colon Broom" has me dying. 😂

Never been this early to a video before

She’s not even old enough to drink. I think we can assume her much older and more experienced mother and management team have a lot of the responsibility here

Off topic: I hope you’re doing well and taking care of yourself🙌🤍! Thank you for all the content recently, and I hope you get some time to yourself soon.

Jojo was raised this way. She probably also sees it as it working out for her. However that doesn't make it right. I have sympathy for both but she should still be held accountable.

Kinda sounds like she's doing exactly what her parents and tlc taught her to do

They're monsters, but you can't question their commitment to Sparkle Motion. I would be directing some criticism at the producers of that show as well and naming them. They REALLY should know better, as the way they are pitting children against each other and manipulating them is straight up psychological and emotional abuse.

"nooo my geodes"😆

hey Vangelina - time change just happened in the US so they are an hour closer to us for a couple of weeks! Only a 4 hour difference so your stream will be at 10 and 7 not 9 and 6

What did you expect from a Colleen Ballinger defender?

but can we talk about Leighas mom?? the whole time this kid is talking about Horrific ab+se--and laughing it off as a badge of honour--the kid's mom is literally beaming ear to ear. disgusting, and just like Jess knew jt w Jojo, this woman knows it w Leigha. shameful.

I’m sorry but why are the parents ALLOWING this treatment?! The Siwas are responsible for being bullies but the children should’ve been protected by their parents! I don’t care if the kids wanted to be pop stars, their parents should have put their foot down n removed them from this abusive situation. They literally were allowing the abusive cycle to continue

Wow. Bleeding through her belly button is an image I never needed to imagine and I had no idea it was even possible. Horrifying.

OMGPOP did several colabs with Colleen Ballinger as Miranda

It’s funny, I’ve been subscribed to Miss Vangelina for a while, but KZfaq stopped putting her in my feed… UNTIL SHE HAD TO ADDRESS THE DRAMA! Thanks, Ethel, for putting Vangelina back in my feed!😊

17:05 Hol up…. ✋🏽 Did she just call her mother, “girl”? Throw the whole child away. 😂 80’s babies could never.

The way Jojo spoke to contestants of SYTYCD season 17 never sat well with me... These allegations don't surprise me at all.

i love your videos!!! you have a great approach to many different topics. The Siwas are disgusting people for what they did to that girl who had just had spinal surgery!!!

sadly jojo doing this doesn't surprise me. I wish she would have known better and learned that what happened to her wasn't good. The people she's been associated with since she was young are not all great people and she shouldn't ever treat others the way she was treated. it's sad to see how the ab*sed became the ab*ser in this case

I'm pissed at EVERY ADULT, indulging the mother! You're your child's first and should be BEST advocate. You can't want fame for your child so much that you allow them to work after surgery. She would have to sit down hurt feelings and all. Also, I understand wanting to give Jojo grace, but she's now the abuser.

hey Vangelina I know it might be a bit outside your part of youtube but could you talk about the Alex Kister situation??

I remember when I was about 13, I had already broken my tailbone twice in dance and falling down the stairs. But I broke it again in cheerleading when the build came down and I landed on the back’s nose and broke it. I then went to dance practice and it was close to the Nutcracker. I expressed to my dance teacher that my tailbone was broken and it excruciatingly painful to do splits. She pretty much said she didn’t care and to push through the pain. She then made me go do a split in the doorway for a majority of class while everybody else was working on the routine. I guess she thought if I did that long enough the pain would go away. But let me tell you. As a 30 woman, I have such pelvic and spine pain. My left hip can’t sit for too long and my sciatica can get really bad too on the left side. My tailbone is crooked and I did go to a PT one time that attempted to straighten it but it would’ve taken months of continuing that and it hurt like hell and she had to put a finger up my butt and that wasn’t pleasant. So I said screw it. I’m stuck this way. But what you said about them not respecting that girl’s spinal surgery… it reminded me of that story.

Congratulations 🎊 on 100k. I havent been here in a minute so i didnt know

Meanwhile on the vtuber side of the world, abusive practices are being revealed almost daily between Nijisanji and their performers. Everyone gotta slave for the content machine

from the beginning. LOTS of focus by the Siwas on tiktok, viral videos, and merch deals and also being very VERY flashy about the house the girls lived in and the perks and gifts the girls got for being part of the group. I had to laugh when someone from the show said no gifts. And then to make them pay for food and other stuff? wow. I was watching them fake taking care of them on social media in real time while they were making the moms pay for stuff. wild. I could write more lol And I’m only halfway thru your video. F Jessalyn!!

Some people stop the cycle... and some people just contuine the cycle.... Sad to see that in this case.. stopping the cycle is hard yes but JoJo at this point knows what she is doing and is enjoying it.

She's been a hot mess all her life. She's a grown up now and she needs to own her actions!! Her anti bullying earlier campaign was total BS,,

The last seconds of a cat on the shelf made me feel seen, lol. My chaos gremlin does that stuff a the time.

I swear at this point, we have heard to many stories about children being abused and exploited in the entertainment industry. So, if this industry is unwilling to take measures to make sure that any child in the industry is being protected appropriately; maybe there needs to be laws that no minor is allowed to work in the industry. I'm sure a lot of you may think this is extreme, and a punishment to the children. But something drastic has to be done and if the industry is worried about losing child stars if minors can't work in the industry, then they better move their asses and fix this. Childhood is a crucial age for development. trauma in childhood doesn't end in childhood it's life long. This whole belief that "oh they're a kid they won't remember this." is such a lie, and dangerous. And Jojo has gone from a victim of industry to perpetrator. Hold her accountable, and maybe she will realize she has healing to do and amends to make.

You can't use your childhood as an excuse to abuse people, especially children. I had a weird, dysfunctional upbringing with two narcissistic parents, but I know I can't run around abusing people.

Vah-siffer-isly.. there ya go Darlin. I'm new to your channel. You're honest and i love your slight accent. Are you Irish?😊

I've never been this early before. Good evening from Oklahoma!

Her story is so bizarre.

I thought she was literally perfect! She never dressed in skimpy clothes or cusses, is a virgin etc etc

I don’t feel bad for jojo. I feel bad for what kid jojo had to go through.