Is this the best Tailstock Die Holder for the home shop machinist?

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Jonesey Makes

Jonesey Makes

Күн бұрын

In this video I make the Tailstock Die Holder from Hemingway Kits. It's got a very interesting clutch mechanism and in my humble opinion is the best available to the home shop machinist or model engineer interested in making their own shop made tools.
Buy the kit from Hemingway;
www.hemingwaykits.com/acatalog...
I talk about the idea of single point threading away from the chuck which I aspire to learn. @joepie221 has some great content on this, check out his video here;
• Threading on a manual ...
I demonstrate the use of a Noga reversible countersink tool, a tip I picked up from @Blondihacks , Quinn has some great content geared towards the home shop machinist so be sure to check her channel out.
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Timestamps
0:00 Introduction
0:22 Threading on the lathe
2:51 Hemingway Kit
3:09 Making the clutch cones
6:04 Making the large die holder
9:56 Single point threading
12:09 Making the small die holder
13:10 Internal threading
13:35 Cutting the taper
14:11 Machining the tool body
14:57 Machining offset holes with a Spin Indexer
16:11 Deburring internal holes
16:34 Making the actuator
19:17 Machinable MT3 arbour
19:42 How does the clutch work?
20:58 Dieholder accessory
21:34 Using the die holder
22:02 The best Tailstock Dieholder?
23:38 Conclusion

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@IdahoShawn
@IdahoShawn 3 күн бұрын
I love how on the Hemmingway Kits product page your video is referenced under "Extended Information" for this exact kit... Hemmingway Kits: "Let's make a cool Die Holder"... Jonesey: "Hold my Beer"...
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 2 күн бұрын
Haha! Indeed.
@rgetso
@rgetso Жыл бұрын
Your up-close video style is reminiscent of Clickspring and really helps us see exactly what you are doing. It's actually quite satisfying to watch.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, that’s a massive compliment. Click spring videos are toon notch.
@jonnyphenomenon
@jonnyphenomenon 15 күн бұрын
This is my tenth time watching this. Been referring back to this video with each step because the instructions this kit comes with are nothing but useless ramblings. Thank you Jonesey for making this video so clear and understandable.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 15 күн бұрын
That's great to hear. I'm glad it was of some help, thanks for watching.
@jonnyphenomenon
@jonnyphenomenon 14 күн бұрын
@@joneseymakes Some day you will have so many followers you won't be able to reply to every one of them. But until you do, I'm happy to know that anytime I need advice you will be there.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 14 күн бұрын
@@jonnyphenomenon Indeed! If you've got any questions about the builds email me on joneseymakes@gmail.com
@Preso58
@Preso58 Жыл бұрын
Nice job. I like to put a 60 degree point on the middle socket head set screw so it will drive into the split in button dies. It allows you to open the die slightly to cut an oversize thread and then retract the screw so the second pass will only remove a small amount of stock.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark, yes that is a great tip. The kit comes with some flat hex screws and some with a point for just that purpose I imagine. Didn't even occur to me to mention that in the video! Big fan of your channel by the way, I especially enjoyed the Titan .60 series. Keep up the good work!
@37yearsofanythingisenough39
@37yearsofanythingisenough39 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely the way to do it Mark if you want to avoid missing thread sections in steel. This is the way die heads work.👍
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk 9 ай бұрын
@@joneseymakes Tip? That's just standard threading practice. Why d'you think there's three screws in the holder, as standard? You've been buying crappy Chinese dies, then. Nice link, might have a go at this. Thanks. I also stopped looking at blondiehacks when she called posters "Trolls" for trying to educate her in not using her verniers as backmarkers.
@FlickFreaks
@FlickFreaks Жыл бұрын
14:23 I got goosebumps when you grabbed the shavings while the lathe was still running. I have a coworker who really fucked up his finger doing that. But of course that is one tiny part in an otherwise brilliant video. You earned a new sub & I can’t wait to go through your catalog of work.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
I know, I need to get some tongs for pulling shavings out :-) Thanks for subbing, glad to have you on board!
@wolf310ii
@wolf310ii Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes No, not tongs, you need a hook, dont know how its called in english, in german its "Spänehaken" it looks a little like a short rapier with a bend tip.
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
@@wolf310ii A chip hook
@Kompins
@Kompins Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes Narrow nose pliers are the perfect tool, used them for decades; nothing to get caught , just keep your hands away from the swarf!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
@@Kompins Thanks, good tip!
@klw141
@klw141 Жыл бұрын
Joe Pie has a great video on making precise tapers and cone dimensions.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’ll check it out
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian
@andrewdolinskiatcarpathian Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the clarity of your operations. Beautifully filmed and narrated. I feel less daunted to try such a project and will definitely try making this tail stock die holder myself. Fabulous sir, simply fabulous. 👏👏👍😀
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks very much Andrew, much appreciated!
@CreaseysWorkshop
@CreaseysWorkshop Жыл бұрын
Beautiful tool and a really great video. Well done!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much!
@peirossmallhomemachineshop5364
@peirossmallhomemachineshop5364 Жыл бұрын
Great project. Plenty good ideas. Thanks for sharing.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@joewhitney4097
@joewhitney4097 11 ай бұрын
Great build, great project. Thanks for sharing.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 11 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@nadam35
@nadam35 Жыл бұрын
thank you so much for posting this video, ive been looking at this kit, and now im sold
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@bentremayne8042
@bentremayne8042 Жыл бұрын
Great video, really well presented, I've never come across Hemingway kits before, I may well invest. Looking forward to checking out the rest of your content
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’d recommend Hemingway kits.
@older-wiser-better
@older-wiser-better Жыл бұрын
Great outcome !
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jrkorman
@jrkorman Жыл бұрын
Excellent build and looks to be a great tool design.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I can recommend the kit for sure.
@janvandemaas4148
@janvandemaas4148 Жыл бұрын
74 year old retired toolmaker here. I made a holder similar to this one about 57 years ago. It has a recess on both sides for two different size button dies. Anything bigger than 6 mm I would always screwcut. The holder is about 60 mm long with a 12 mm reamed hole in the middle and has a light knurl on the 38 mm OD. It does not have a handle or clutch for safety reasons. I have a 12 mm ejector pin with the head cut off which I clamp in the tailstock drill chuck and the holder will slide along that pin. It works basically the same but my hand is the clutch which is far safer and the whole unit is a breeze to make .
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
That’s very interesting, thanks for sharing.
@be007
@be007 10 ай бұрын
very nice made ! cheers ben.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Ben, much appreciated!
@niksechtniks
@niksechtniks Жыл бұрын
What a great project! need to make one myself Tnx for sharing
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@dmitryzlotnikov6587
@dmitryzlotnikov6587 21 күн бұрын
Excellent work !
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 21 күн бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@davewaites2414
@davewaites2414 Жыл бұрын
Came across your channel by accident but what a first video to watch. Very impressive. I am a total newby only 6 months into my journey and this is defo above my pay grade but hopefully I’ll get there one day. It’s a cracking idea and obviously make threading a lot easier. Keep up the good work mate, regards Dave.❤
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave, best of luck with your journey! The machinists hammer may be a good place to start
@jdsstegman
@jdsstegman 10 ай бұрын
My first video of yours. Great work. Love the references of other great KZfaq channels.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 10 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you! Glad to have you on board.
@joelucas7472
@joelucas7472 Жыл бұрын
Very nice! I like the design, and have just purchased the kit from Hemmings. Thank you, I enjoyed the video.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it, thanks for the comment
@philoso377
@philoso377 Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Thanks
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@briangrono7855
@briangrono7855 Жыл бұрын
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BEST JOBS I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@DavidR8
@DavidR8 11 ай бұрын
Very nice work.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 11 ай бұрын
Thanks David!
@flyzeyefab
@flyzeyefab 7 ай бұрын
Very cool project. I like your tolerance goals - very tight. Well done, sir! Well done!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 7 ай бұрын
Thanks. Much appreciated!
@iancraig1951
@iancraig1951 10 ай бұрын
Well done great project
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 10 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@larss337
@larss337 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a great design. A very good video 👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@movax20h
@movax20h Жыл бұрын
That clutch mechanism design is so simple and reliable. Nice.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nardaoeletronica
@nardaoeletronica Жыл бұрын
Excellent work.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@markkrick8602
@markkrick8602 Жыл бұрын
I have adopted Joe P's method. He explains it very well. I don't think he mentions the compound but I use the opposite 29.5 °~ since you're feeding towards the tailstock end
@mchiodox69
@mchiodox69 Жыл бұрын
Nicely done
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Militarycollector
@Militarycollector Жыл бұрын
I have to say you’ve done a beautiful job building that thing that’s for sure… A real pro..⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, much appreciated!
@stevethompson8504
@stevethompson8504 4 ай бұрын
Really nice job.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 4 ай бұрын
Thanks Steve
@djhscorp
@djhscorp Жыл бұрын
Nice video, well presented.👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@eddietowers5595
@eddietowers5595 Жыл бұрын
I just binged watched your channel, this whole day, as my first act of my vacation (holiday) and enjoyed each video. They were remeniscent of my metals shop teacher and shop class and assigned projects. I found your channel via [happy] accident and was hooked because they're mostly Hemingway kits, which I had just purchased their retracting tool holder couple weeks back then then I find your channel. How serendipitous! I wanna thank you for sharing your videos with us, great channel, great content and awe some narrating.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! Glad to hear you’re enjoying the channel. Plenty more Hemingway kits coming in future videos! Good luck with the retracting tool holder, that’s one I’m considering too, so let me know how you get on!
@dirtybarry7002
@dirtybarry7002 Жыл бұрын
I made a fairly similar diestock a few years ago (on my channel) with a cone clutch, but I think this is a better design. Mine requires adjustment of clutch preload for each different die size.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’ll be sure to check your video out.
@cdrive5757
@cdrive5757 Жыл бұрын
Welcome and best of luck with your KZfaq channel. The your work on the Die Holder was meticulous. So much so it deserves its own Lacewood (Silky Oak), dovetail case. 😉Wakodahatchee Chris
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Chris. Maybe a case would be a good project!
@Rustinox
@Rustinox Жыл бұрын
That's indeed a very clever design.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Yep, I wish I could take credit for the design, but a guy called J.C. Payne designed it.
@scmaker8506
@scmaker8506 Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I'm now your newest subscriber! Great content, please keep it up!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Great to have you on board.
@kentuckytrapper780
@kentuckytrapper780 Жыл бұрын
Excellent job, 👍👍👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@emran9233
@emran9233 Жыл бұрын
Wow what an idea boss
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@MrSneakyGunz
@MrSneakyGunz Жыл бұрын
Quite beautiful.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Many thanks!
@robertoswalt319
@robertoswalt319 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting this video. I have seen these advertised but was concerned about how complicated the clutch would be to manufacture. Now I know what to ask Santa for this Christmas.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@steved8038
@steved8038 Жыл бұрын
congrats a very nice tool well made Thank you
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rodbutler9864
@rodbutler9864 Жыл бұрын
Outstanding!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Rod!
@stephenperry5849
@stephenperry5849 Жыл бұрын
Just started the Hemingway knurling tool. I wanted to do the taper attachment I saw you make but need to make a couple more tools first! This looks great too.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
I’ve got the knurling tool kit too, but I need to build some more tools before I start that! Namely a rotary table to machine the rounded arm features.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
How are you getting on with the Knurling tool?
@stephenperry5849
@stephenperry5849 Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes literally just started. Have just sized the side panels and setting up to drill the various holes. I've not done anything like this before. Pretty much the first tool I have ever made. Only hade the lathe and mill for about 6 months. Quite daunting!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Well best of luck with it!
@stephenperry5849
@stephenperry5849 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@manuelcv9475
@manuelcv9475 Жыл бұрын
Perfect job.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@manuelcv9475
@manuelcv9475 Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes It is really the best outillage that I have seen in KZfaq videos. Work 22 years in a multinational adjusting machinery and outillage and this is easy, efficient and very useful.
@juliovera3826
@juliovera3826 Жыл бұрын
Que buen video y muy bien explicado, se le agradese por enseñar esto.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@oregoncouger
@oregoncouger 10 ай бұрын
Going to make one of these tomorrow out of my drop rack.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 10 ай бұрын
Good man
@hamish7759
@hamish7759 Жыл бұрын
For working out the 14 thou dimension on the end of the cone you could use a ball bearing to contact the taper, and measure the distance between that and the face of the part, and with a cad sketch I think you could work it out, thanks for the great video :)
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the advice, sounds like a good plan!
@terrymoorecnc2500
@terrymoorecnc2500 Жыл бұрын
You'll need a big ball to work it out and face the issue of how to gage from the OD of the ball to the face. Better to machine a plug gage and just extend the cone by plus or minus .005 based on the calculated ID of 1.722" Start with a 1.727 OD, cut the 30 degree from that point back a quarter inch and use it as a gage or just machine the male cones first. If you do make the plug there would be a .0085" range from the plug face that would have you in the tolerance band. The only caveat is that the compound needs to be set accurately on 30 degrees for the math to come out.
@MrCubflyer
@MrCubflyer 4 ай бұрын
That reminds me of how a Volvo outdrive works they are by far the best in my opinion for safety and they work flawless if adjusted properly. Thanks for the vid Im going to get the plans and build one of those.I dont have a milling machine at this time but I can probably carefully make the square cuts with a saw.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 4 ай бұрын
You should be fine on this project without a milling machine.
@MrHuntnfish
@MrHuntnfish Жыл бұрын
Hi Jonesey, Thank you for taking the time to show us this Die Holder, I have now watched this video twice and seen bits that I missed the first time, Question: Is it possible to use a tap, and use the cone system both intermediate and bottoming to prevent tap breakage. Regards Beagles.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Hi Beagles. I don’t see why not. Obviously you’d need a means to hold the taps so the holder would need to be redesigned, but I think that would work
@daveallan8103
@daveallan8103 Жыл бұрын
I watch you videos that a good tool to have thanks from Dave Allan in Australia
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Cheers Dave!
@markkrick8602
@markkrick8602 Жыл бұрын
Good video, your subscribers will rise quickly!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Hope so! Thanks!
@WeCanDoThatBetter
@WeCanDoThatBetter Жыл бұрын
Super clean and nice work! I just subscribed to your channel. This is a really clever tool design too, I really like it. Thanks for sharing, you did some excellent photography job here as well.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Good to have you along for the ride.
@dermotkelly2971
@dermotkelly2971 Жыл бұрын
What a nice tool to make. I am waiting on the finance to build a shed out here in Thailand and get back in my trade.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks. Good luck with the shed!
@jasonhull5712
@jasonhull5712 5 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking for something like this where someone has modified the original design. I’ve been considering scaling it up a bit for the larger size dies I have. The issue with the smaller size dies is it’s not really too bad to line up and hold under power (at the lowest rpm’s of course) but when it comes to the larger sizes I get a little nervous about holding on to them. This seems like a good base design to scale from. Not to mention great for the intended purpose. Great video my friend. 👍🏻 enjoyed the watch. Becoming quite the fan of your content. 🍻
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 5 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you're enjoying it. It's a good tool, I use mine a lot.
@abowie1965
@abowie1965 10 ай бұрын
I made one of these on the weekend. I cut the 4 main parts out of one piece of 2" stock and so was able to cut all 4 tapers in a row without having to move the compound. When using it you need to be REALLY careful as if it locks you can get your hand jammed very easily. I elected not to fit the ball on the end of the handle to make it a bit easier to let go in a hurry. Get the saddle as far away from it as you can so you don't get tangled. It works really well, but I use it with my foot right on the foot brake ready to stop the lathe. Overall an excellent addition to the workshop!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 10 ай бұрын
Glad to hear you've made one and are pleased with it. Mine is the same, you have to be ready for when that clutch engages
@MrJackandEmily
@MrJackandEmily Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty impressed that you managed 1.0000000" .. just wow.
@carllie4848
@carllie4848 Жыл бұрын
Hello from Norway. Just discover your channel. Very good. Very good the way your filming and talking. Carl Erik
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Carl, much appreciated!
@parnuzutech
@parnuzutech Жыл бұрын
Very nice 👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thank you 👍
@StuartsShed
@StuartsShed Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I’m enjoying getting caught up on your channel having just discovered it. Has anyone answered your question on how to establish the lip thickness? This die holder is definitely one I want to make - although since I started upside down /reverse threading, it’s not as essential.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it! I did have at least one response yes, it's in the comments for the video.
@shawnmrfixitlee6478
@shawnmrfixitlee6478 Жыл бұрын
just subbed to your channel .. really enjoy my shop time as well
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Glad to have you on board!
@bkoholliston
@bkoholliston Жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I am enjoying it! For you 0.014" dimension, the usual way to measure that is a ball dimension--you set up an indicator set zero on the front edge of the part with the cone bore and then put an appropriately sized ball in the cone and measure the height of that beyone that edge. Then a little trig will show that the edge diameter of the cone is E = 2*sqrt( (B-H)*H ) where B is the ball diameter and H is the height of the top of the ball out the cone. You would then take the diameter of the part minus the E sharp edge cone diameter and divide that by 2 to get the edge size. You would need a pretty big ball for this as it must be a good bit larger than the cone opening so it just touches on the edge of the cone. This measurement is how you can measure a countersink diameter so you can look that up for pictures etc. Nice video and nice project!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Great, thanks for the advice. I'll do some more research on that ball technique!
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
I guess you can use a smaller ball (have to be just big enough to contact the taper, not the bottom of the hole inside) and use a depth micrometer to check the distance between the front face and the top of the ball?
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects Жыл бұрын
Too pricey once you add shipping to Australia. It'd be nice if Hemmingway kits can sell the plans separately, it'd be better for folks like me that can buy stock locally and lower carbon footprint :)
@CS-Sir_Twit
@CS-Sir_Twit Жыл бұрын
Bump from another Aussie
@kieranpaulger3485
@kieranpaulger3485 Жыл бұрын
I have heard rumour that if you email them, you may just be able to purchase the plans only...not sure if this is correct however.
@HM-Projects
@HM-Projects Жыл бұрын
@@kieranpaulger3485 I might give that a go, cheers.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Definitely email them. Kirk that runs the place is a nice bloke, I’m sure he’d send some plans for a reduced cost if you asked him.
@HairyNumbNuts
@HairyNumbNuts Жыл бұрын
Couldn't agree more. 35 pounds for the kit plus 60 pounds shipping. I've asked before for plans only and had a no. I'll add that I eventually bought a bunch of kits that spread the overall shipping so that it was more reasonable on a per-kit basis, but it was still awfully expensive.
@geoffgreenhalgh3553
@geoffgreenhalgh3553 Жыл бұрын
Great tool.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Cheers
@ferb7452
@ferb7452 Жыл бұрын
I love it It’s now on The lis
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@gautesivertsen
@gautesivertsen Жыл бұрын
Very nice, great work and video!👏👏 I do really not want to "pick" on You, but would like to ad some comments😊 For keeping things in line, it would be easier to turn inside diameter/ream and make the cone without turning the part between the operations (female thread part). Also the alignment of threaded parts "depend" on a shoulder to line up to. So the final assemble should be locking the screew to the shoulder. (The shoulder that was hit when threading.) Keep the videos coming!!🤩
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Good advice, thanks for the tips!
@johnspathonis1078
@johnspathonis1078 Жыл бұрын
Very nice job. Luckily I have a pulse button on my lathe so by selecting 45 rpm I pulse/powerfeed until close to the shoulder. I manually turn the last few turns. Also for single point turning and longitudinal power feeding I have mounted a movable microswitch to the lathe bed. Once activated it operates an electric air solenoid valve. This then activates a 16mm air cylinder(s) to disengage either the screw half nut or power feed lever. Which cylinder is activated is selectable. I use a regulated/lubricated air source so the stopping distances are extremely consistent. There are a few other features not mentioned. If you are interested I can send details.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Hi John, that sounds like a very innovative solution. I’d be interested to hear more. Perhaps email me? Joneseymakes@gmail.com
@Cenedd
@Cenedd Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes There's also the dog clutch option: www.cgtk.co.uk/metalwork/minilathe/dogclutch I plan to go the electronic leadscrew route but I procrastinate too much and end up with a pile of half-build parts instead :D
@BeardedBen
@BeardedBen Жыл бұрын
Great Video, Hemingway Kits is my new favourite website and i fully intend to waste every paycheque i get on it
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Haha good for you!
@lste
@lste Жыл бұрын
Just came across this video. Where have you been hiding? Great to have a real Brit making workhop vids. You're the only one as far as I know. Just a thought but couldn't this tool be simply adapted for power tapping on the mill? Many thanks and keep up the great work.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Alan! The channel is pretty new, but lots more content planned. I’m sure you could adapt it for the mill yes.
@neillickfold
@neillickfold Жыл бұрын
When doing an inner taper, you can set on the diameter with a marker pen and making a scratch on the inner edge. Set your zero or diameter at this point, then keep changing the diameter until you get to the number. If it is real important, make a gauge that is basically a male turned cone. You measure the distance on the Z value to the shoulder. Using rollers and knowing the taper, you can either calculate the diameter of the cone to shoulder intersection or draw it with a cad program and then you can know that dimension. You can then calc backwards to the gap needed to get your size. Sometimes to get an accurate size on a taper, instead of changing the cross slide value, it becomes easier to change the carriage position or the Z value to get the final size. A great genuine video.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks Neil, some great advice there.
@justin_704
@justin_704 Жыл бұрын
Only comment on it is about the concentricity of your die holder. I wasn't sure about it being on a slight tilt, but right at the end you can see a distinct wobble of about at least 1 mm. Great job though. Loved the video.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’ll re check the video
@neillickfold
@neillickfold Жыл бұрын
For threading, I have a VFD on my Myford S7, and use a microswitch , that then turns off the forward direction on the VFD control and activates the programmed brake. Then you have as time as needed to withdraw the tool , and only the reverse direction will work to take the carriage back. For cutting with a centre support, I have a second microswitch , that stops the carriage before it can hit the tailstock or the centre support. The right hand microswitch will turn off the reverse direction on the control, and only the forward direction will be available for activation. It gives plenty of time to add lube and set the next cutting depth. I like to use the partial form threading inserts for the common threads like 1mm pitch for example. I then keep cutting until the diameter is 0.05mm smaller than the nominal diameter. So for 22X1 I would cut the outer diameter to 21.95mm after the thread is finished. I would make the blank at +0.1 so 22.1mm for example.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Wow, that sounds like an awesome setup on the Myford. Are you using some kind of microcontroller or are the switches wired directly into the VFD?
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn Жыл бұрын
👍 you can disengage the half nuts when threading to stop the Z axis quickly. Just reengage them at the same number when you reverse the spindle. The threading dial is moving so slowly that it's easy to keep track of the position. Little trick of the trade 🙂
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Cheers, I need to master that one
@James-fs4rn
@James-fs4rn Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes You're gonna love. It's easy.
@EddieTheGrouch
@EddieTheGrouch Жыл бұрын
You High and Mighty folks with your fancy pants half-nuts! It's obvious that the designer of this clever tool also has a Chinese copy of a 1940's Russian lathe and intends to make the world a better place for us.
@Moehre040
@Moehre040 Жыл бұрын
im honestly curious, why you use the handle/torsion bar to force the dieholder into the part. I have been taught in my apprenticeship (didnt do any lathework since then) to just rest it on the compound, which then does the holding for you. That always worked well for me, whether im doing it under power or not (though ofc under power i stopped short and did the last bit by hand to not crash the thing, as you explained in your initial explanation).
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the question. I've tried that technique with the import die holder a couple of times but still have trouble getting the thread started, might be a technique failure on my part. You couldn't do that with the Hemingway Kits design as you need to put force on the torsion bar to engage the clutch mechanism, if I rested it on the compound or cross slide it would just sit there free spinning.
@johncoops6897
@johncoops6897 Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes - the technical failure was that you deliberately used the wrong side of the die.
@BadDecisionsJeep
@BadDecisionsJeep 3 ай бұрын
I like the design though I would like to add a slip sleeve so it can extend into the part without having to turn the tail stock. Might be interesting to mesh both designs.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 3 ай бұрын
It moves freely on an abour to extend it into the work, is that what you mean?
@1crazypj
@1crazypj Жыл бұрын
You can get a lot of non standard size taps and dies and they are not too expensive. (die holder for 26x1mm & 27x1mm was a bit pricey but less than $75) I doubt it would be worth buying for a 'one off' though Japanese motorcycles often use 22x1mm, 24x1mm plus other non DIN/ ISO / SAE metric fittings. (although thread form is to 1965 ISO specifications, I forget exact spec number) Due to this fact, I have quite a lot of oddball taps and dies
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info, that’s great to know.
@rickpalechuk4411
@rickpalechuk4411 Жыл бұрын
Nice! Just subbed Cheers
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Glad to have you along for the ride. Cheers!
@howardosborne8647
@howardosborne8647 Жыл бұрын
Is a retracting threading tool holder on the cards for future video? Hemingway also sell a kit for a swing up threading tool holder.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Could be… I’ve seen that swing up tool holder, looks interesting. I’ll consider it, thanks for the suggestion.
@aceroadholder2185
@aceroadholder2185 Жыл бұрын
There is a trick you can use to cut a metric thread to a shoulder. It works especially well for lathes that don't have a spindle brake. Engage the thread dial and pick a number on it for your first pass on the work. When the number comes up on the thread dial engage the half-nut. As the threading tool reaches the end of the thread being cut open the half nut and hit the stop switch on the lathe and let it coast to a stop. You will note that the thread dial hasn't moved a whole lot past your number. Back the threading tool out. Reverse the lathe spindle and when the thread dial backs up to your number, re-engage the half-nut and back the carriage up to your starting point. Set the threading tool for the next pass then rinse and repeat>
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Great tip. Much appreciated.
@Steviegtr52
@Steviegtr52 Жыл бұрын
Eyup Jonesey, nice video. I have subbed to your channel. I made the sensitive knurling tool by Hemingways. Its a multi part video on my channel. I enjoyed making it. I as you do make lots of tooling for the lathe & mill. Regards. Steve.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Cheers Steve. I’ve watched your knurling tool videos, nice work. I’ll be building one myself soon, got the kit in the workshop already. Any advice on that build?
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
Nice video, I was wondering how this clutch works, and now it's clear. I was thinking building this kit, but since I only have metric dies, which come in a bunch of different sizes, I was wondering if it would work. Your video kinda answers that. One question: some dies (M3 to M4) are 20x5 mm and others (M4.5 to M6) are 20x7 mm. The diameter is the same but if the die is fully inserted, the grub screw indentations are at different heights. Does your 20 mm recess holder work equally well for both 20x5 and 20x7 mm dies?
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Hi Gene, I've not tried with both 20x7 and 20x7, but I think the best approach would just to make an additional die holder insert. That'll work fine but you'll need a bit of extra stock obviously.
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes Right, since these inserts are really easy to swap, it's not a problem to make extras as needed. Thanks Nicholas.
@paulmorrey733
@paulmorrey733 Жыл бұрын
Thanks
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@claygormish4884
@claygormish4884 Жыл бұрын
Threading away from the head stock is easy, just follow with Joe Pies' video. Inverted threading tool of course.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Cheers. I’ll give it a try
@dermotkelly2289
@dermotkelly2289 8 ай бұрын
Fine job mate. Do you get separate drawings with the kit or are the drawings just on one sheet of paper? Thank you.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 8 ай бұрын
Thanks. The drawings are very good actually, on three separate A3 sheets from memory.
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
@RobertBrown-lf8yq Жыл бұрын
Great video ….. great tool too. The name ‘J.C.Payne’ rings a bell? Isn’t he the guy that invented / sold the Quickstep Milling accessory for lathe toolpost mounting? I understand that design was taken over by Hemingway. I bought one of the original Quickstep units years ago. Still brand new, unused in its box somewhere. I’ll dig it out and check to see if my recollection is correct. Regards Robert Brown, Sydney, Australia.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, would be interesting to know! Cheers
@RobertBrown-lf8yq
@RobertBrown-lf8yq Жыл бұрын
Yep 👍 Same guy that invented /sold the Quickstep Mill . Great vid. I’m going to see if I can import one of those Hemingway kits. 😢😢 though…. the Aussie ‘pesos’ is worth about 20P 🤣🤣🤣 Regards Robert
@dariushmilani6760
@dariushmilani6760 Жыл бұрын
rgeat project and presentation. It would be nice to add some rust prevention by blackening the parts.👍👍
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks, yes agree on the rust prevention
@ronmurphy9819
@ronmurphy9819 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I thought it was so good I just tried to order one and found out the e-mail didn’t work and what I found was 10 years old. Do you have anything that can help? Thanks Ron
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, there is a link to the Hemingway website in the video description, you should be able to order online from there.
@lolcec81
@lolcec81 11 ай бұрын
Прекрасная работа!!!!
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 11 ай бұрын
Большое спасибо!
@mdonne45
@mdonne45 Жыл бұрын
Do you do anything to stop the chuck from unthreading from the spindle nose when the lathe is run in reverse?
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
No, I’m running a D-4 camlock chuck so that’s not an issue.
@OB1canblowme
@OB1canblowme Жыл бұрын
The best design I've used is the VBK. Pricey but for the price you get a simple and well executed mechanism that just fucking works first time every time.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Don’t suppose you have a link so I can check it out?
@OB1canblowme
@OB1canblowme Жыл бұрын
They're made in Sweden and apparently only marketed here. But chech them out with google translate and you'll probably understand how they work
@RVJimD
@RVJimD Жыл бұрын
Nice video and looks like a great tool. I didn’t understand how the clutch disengagement works? I’ll watch that part again but it doesn’t seem to click in my mind. Thanks.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
It's friction based, so when you release the actuator arm (that forces the male and female cones into contact) then the mechanism is able to slip and then free spins. Does that make sense?
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes The question I have is what makes the clutch disengage when the die hits the shoulder? Or is it up to the operator releasing the handle? What if you keep pushing on the handle while running up to the shoulder, will it crash as badly as with a clutch-less dieholder? Or will the cones start slipping regardless? I am just wondering how "foolproof" this tool is.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
@@GenePavlovsky The trick it to hold it fairly lightly as it approaches the shoulder then the clutch will slip as it hits.
@GenePavlovsky
@GenePavlovsky Жыл бұрын
@@joneseymakes that's what I figured ) thanks for confirming it.
@Michael-ze6oz
@Michael-ze6oz 6 ай бұрын
HI'i, you used Loctite to keep the die holder in position so it won't lock the clutch cones. Is this not dangerous? If the Loctite fails while the lathe is turning, the clutch cones will lock and the handle will spin around. It's safer to remove some material of one of the clutch cones imo. Some free movement of the clutch cones is allowed in this design. The handle will drive them outwards.. You have made impressive tool, nice job. Looking forward to see more projects.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 6 ай бұрын
Hi Michael, if the loctite failed the two end pieces would unscrew therefore releasing the clutch cones and freeing the handle. Thanks for watching!
@Christiannetzer
@Christiannetzer Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video! The plan worked with inch and metric thread? Best wishes from german
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Yes it was fine. I prefer to use metric threads where possible.
@satchelsieniewicz5824
@satchelsieniewicz5824 Жыл бұрын
goddam those mic dimensions are such a flex
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Haha yeah
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie Жыл бұрын
To measure the tapered bore, you need some gage balls. You drop them into the taper and measure from the end to the top of the ball. With those two numbers and the ball diameters, you can work out the taper angle and the ideal diameter of the bore mouth.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Brilliant, thanks for the tip. I’ll be sure to try that.
@markrainford1219
@markrainford1219 Жыл бұрын
Crikey. Just googled 'Gag balls', wished I hadn't!
@PaulSteMarie
@PaulSteMarie Жыл бұрын
@@markrainford1219 *_gage_* balls.
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 11 ай бұрын
I wouldn't want to rely on lock tight to keep the clutches from locking up ad would probably add a shim to physically limit the cones from getting too close. I could see cutting a heavy thread that would push through the thread lock and lock the clutch tight so that when you are expecting to disengage it doesn't and hopefully just breaks the handle off when it hits the carriage and doesn't take your hand with it. Other than that it looks to be limited to smaller sizes since the through hole is only 5/8 or 16mm so I would want to see it have a larger bore to allow a wider range of thread dies to be used but it looks like a fine design other than those small points.
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. I use locktight 648 and it's held up so far but I see your point. I've used this to cut threads up to 14mm in brass, anything bigger than that I think you'd have a job to hold on to it. Definitely a tool for the smaller threads.
@chrisfairbrother9197
@chrisfairbrother9197 Жыл бұрын
Not hitting the shoulder with the screw cutting tool is just practice over many years. Or, cut in reverse as you said 😊
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Indeed! :-)
@chrisfairbrother9197
@chrisfairbrother9197 Жыл бұрын
Just remembered; we had a Colchester chipmaster with ainjest high speed attachment fitted. You had a positive stop on the bed, and could screw cut as fast as you like with no danger of hitting the shoulder. Link…. millhillsupplies.co.uk/tools/ainjest-high-speed-threading-attachment/
@Itsdirtnaptime
@Itsdirtnaptime Жыл бұрын
Just curious. When you flipped the die holder around, why did you indicate the raw stock portion of the part?
@joneseymakes
@joneseymakes Жыл бұрын
Because I wanted to keep things concentric with the features I’d just machined on the other side.
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