Kaldor Draigo And The World That Was - 40K Theories

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4 жыл бұрын

During the course of the End Times, a Wood Elf named Araloth would encounter a giant of a man clad in silver armour, within the realm of Nurgle. Could this mysterious knight be in actuality Kaldor Draigo of the Grey Knights Space Marine chapter?
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@Kameth
@Kameth 4 жыл бұрын
To those confused about the power discrepancy: The Primarchs were only created by the Emperor. Kaldor Draigo was created by Matt Ward.
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 жыл бұрын
*YOU LOOK LIKE A STAR FRUIT*
@fredericherz4946
@fredericherz4946 4 жыл бұрын
Hands don‘t exist in my reality
@annelisemeier283
@annelisemeier283 4 жыл бұрын
I HAVE COME TO VANQUISH ALL DEMONS AND LOW QUALITY RAZORS IN THIS REALM
@ErickGarcia-le8pt
@ErickGarcia-le8pt 4 жыл бұрын
THATS A GOOD LOOKING BEARD YOU HAVE THERE SIR I TO HAVE A BEARD
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 жыл бұрын
*HAVE YOU EVER EATEN A TANGERINE!?*
@FENIX6669
@FENIX6669 4 жыл бұрын
I like the picture him running up to the horde and screaming, I am Mr. Clean! Feel the might of my magic eraser!
@deusvult8251
@deusvult8251 2 жыл бұрын
Please don't
@MrTurbowhitey
@MrTurbowhitey 4 жыл бұрын
With how Drago ping-pongs around the Warp, it's highly plausible that he did pop into the classic Warhammer world a few times.
@vyren2030
@vyren2030 2 жыл бұрын
Nope they are not conntected and complete different settings - its like Draigo pops out in the DC Universe.
@stolyartoad8640
@stolyartoad8640 2 жыл бұрын
@@vyren2030 it is also possible for Kaldor.
@MrMolay44
@MrMolay44 2 жыл бұрын
It's not that clear cut. All through the history of WFB, references to 40k, appears from time to time, more in old stuff ( Amazon warriors from Lustria with Bolters 😍😍😍) but even in recent stuff like End of Time where Skavens manage, maybe, to contact Eldars by using an Old Ones's piece of machinery. In fact I love the idea of the Warp and the Chaos Gods being a threat for several universes ( OK, not that much of threat in Bloodbowl's universe :p), can't stop to think about Chaos Space Marines aligned with the best of Chaos God, Necoho, god of doubt and atheism :p
@thewerdna
@thewerdna Жыл бұрын
Actually they are connected, but only via the warp. Its apparently very difficult to, but possible to travel between the Warhammer Fantasy world and 40k via the warp.
@janjan5796
@janjan5796 Жыл бұрын
@@vyren2030 I mean warp-fuckery is basically a plot device for anything and everything + Kaldor Draigo is well.... Kaldor Draigo
@TerrorBlades
@TerrorBlades 4 жыл бұрын
So that's why Dragio wanted to help "The poor boy" in Cammoragh he thought they where related to his friends from the Warp!
@Restilia_ch
@Restilia_ch 4 жыл бұрын
ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT. WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS!!
@retroicdescent
@retroicdescent 4 жыл бұрын
Bruva I gladly lend you my hams!
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 жыл бұрын
@@yooanto9465 *I MUST GO MY PEOPLE NEED MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*
@D1SCORDANT3
@D1SCORDANT3 4 жыл бұрын
NO, SUN!
@Fire_of756
@Fire_of756 3 жыл бұрын
This entire comment section is high on narcotics.
@Kfire-ne6nz
@Kfire-ne6nz 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever eaten.....a tangerine?
@DefiantSpurr
@DefiantSpurr 4 жыл бұрын
Given that Kaldor is cursed to wander the warp for 10k years, its entirely possible that curse will not let him die until its run its course. I bet M'kar does not get invited to any demon parties any more.. 😉
@lordfrostdraken
@lordfrostdraken 2 жыл бұрын
They be like bruh...
@alquimistafriki
@alquimistafriki 4 жыл бұрын
"hands do not exist in my realty"
@Maxidemt
@Maxidemt 4 жыл бұрын
What an interesting theory, combining The Old World and 40K lore.
@Soulcatcher30
@Soulcatcher30 4 жыл бұрын
Hate it. Also, ''World that Was'' is cringe. Fucking GW and fucking age of smegma...
@Ericshadowblade
@Ericshadowblade 4 жыл бұрын
Way back in the day there was lots of little cross overs like for example chaos champions gaining a boon that was essentially a bolt gun
@johnpjones1775
@johnpjones1775 4 жыл бұрын
there was a time when sigmar was almost confirmed as one of the lost primarchs...
@raphael5225
@raphael5225 4 жыл бұрын
Ahhh, Kaldor Draigo, 40K’s very own Doom Guy.
@dekaw9138
@dekaw9138 4 жыл бұрын
No, he’s 40k’s deadpool
@darrianweathington1923
@darrianweathington1923 3 жыл бұрын
(K)ald(o)r Drai(go)= Goko(Goku) kaldor Draigo is 40k Goku confirmed
@edmundthespiffing2920
@edmundthespiffing2920 3 жыл бұрын
@@darrianweathington1923 genius!
@dc-101
@dc-101 2 жыл бұрын
@@darrianweathington1923 GAAAAAT EOF INFINIT
@victorkaranja1420
@victorkaranja1420 Жыл бұрын
He's 40ks own isekai protagonist
@bubger
@bubger 4 жыл бұрын
I really hope its Kaldor, because these fantasy/40k crossover theories are really cool.
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment
@Big_E_Soul_Fragment 4 жыл бұрын
I HAVE COME TO PURGE DAEMONS AND LOW QUALITY RAZORS IN THIS REALM
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
NO YOU HAVEN"T YOU PILE OF POPSICLE SHAVINGS
@pacman10182
@pacman10182 4 жыл бұрын
"and I'm all out of razors"
@lorddevilfish5868
@lorddevilfish5868 3 жыл бұрын
Tau lover: Kaldor Drago I knew you would come!
@aawallace98
@aawallace98 4 жыл бұрын
A WIZARD NEVER REVEALS HIS SECRETS
@involuntaryanalysis
@involuntaryanalysis 3 жыл бұрын
Ordo Draigo present, we will provide the HAMS!
@craken1566
@craken1566 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever eaten, a TANGERINE?
@1973Washu
@1973Washu 2 жыл бұрын
HOW DO YOU KNOW MY WELL KEPT SECRET? HAVE YOU MADE A VISIT IN MY EAR? HAVE YOU?
@dc-101
@dc-101 2 жыл бұрын
@@craken1566 WOULD YOU LIKE TO TRY ONE!
@moodyowlproductions4287
@moodyowlproductions4287 Жыл бұрын
Kaldor Draigo"I WILL AVERAGE YOU JANUSSSSSSSSSS"!!!!!
@templarhelmet3844
@templarhelmet3844 4 жыл бұрын
I was going to make a TTS reference, but it seems everybody got to it before me.
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 жыл бұрын
*G L O R I O U S T E R M I N A T O R D A D D I E S*
@involuntaryanalysis
@involuntaryanalysis 3 жыл бұрын
HAMS Provided. My work is done here.
@NovaDragon97
@NovaDragon97 4 жыл бұрын
May my comment feed the Algorithm and calm the tides of the Warp.
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
IT HASN'T YOU PENNY LICKER
@kevski_021
@kevski_021 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldortangerine WHY, DO YOU HAVE A BEARD?
@Patcherson
@Patcherson 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldortangerine penny licker now that's a new one
@HiroTheWanderer
@HiroTheWanderer 4 жыл бұрын
I think he was high on Narcotics
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
Zenlarrus Hiro YOU THINK OR SUSPECT?
@JerichoYeet
@JerichoYeet 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldortangerine! Where are the *H A M S*
@Deridus
@Deridus 4 жыл бұрын
But did the Ordo provide the hams!?
@PepRock01
@PepRock01 4 жыл бұрын
My planet needs meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@zedakh
@zedakh 4 жыл бұрын
HAVE YOU EVER EATEN... A TANGERINE?
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
WOULD YOU LIKE TO?
@ragingmoderate6791
@ragingmoderate6791 4 жыл бұрын
It's a secret.
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 4 жыл бұрын
That is one solid quote. You. Drago is my favourite tts character to quote.
@TheLodgePainting
@TheLodgePainting 4 жыл бұрын
Once or twice
@KhaosAdmiral
@KhaosAdmiral 4 жыл бұрын
ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS
@xenonsean7050
@xenonsean7050 4 жыл бұрын
In the 8th edition Chaos Daemons codex, theres a specific entry in the Slaneesh portion of the book that describes this knight we're talking about. He's described as a "wandering knight of the Adeptus Astartes whose resolve was as strong as slivered adamantium." If this isn't Draigo, idk who else it could be.
@jaqdraco
@jaqdraco 4 жыл бұрын
Does anyone else remember back in the 90's when the Lizardmen and Bretonnians came along. I seem to remember quite distinctly that it talked about the Old Ones and how they retreated from the rest of the galaxy (suggesting 40k), setup the warhammer world in the galactic north and sealed themselves away from everyone else with their own little world to play with, but it went wrong when their webway gate collapsed killing most of them off leaving the world isolated to its own devices. Basically translating as Warhammer exists in 40k just kept away from everything else by the old ones. I'm sure it's been retconned by now, but could easily be brought back in with the shattering of the old world occuring due to the fall of Cadia and the warp tear. Stormcast are effectively legion of the damned. Imagine one phasing in with a Bolter "No brother, Emps wants us incognito, this place requires knife work... And less flames"
@DrunkenRoadkill
@DrunkenRoadkill 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t really fit stormcast can usually remember fragments of their past lives and it’s deffo fantasy world humans used to make them that and they can’t phase in and out like legion of damned .... though I’d still be down for a bunch of them ending up being flung into the 40k universe in a translation accident or a space marine battlebarge misplacing in the mortal realms
@jaqdraco
@jaqdraco 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrunkenRoadkill oh I've no doubt the stormcast bit was just a massive plothole :) I've not followed AoS so all I know about them is that they are ghost warriors. That was just an afterthought when I was thinking about how the lore used to be
@jaqdraco
@jaqdraco 4 жыл бұрын
@cybiko6 Fine, but remember I'm one of the only people to have actually spoken to Emps in 10,000 years... he thinks all your worship is hilarious... *Whispers* but necessary *scampers back into the webway with his glowing finger*
@MR.LMR1996
@MR.LMR1996 4 жыл бұрын
I WILL AVENGE YOU, JANUS!!!
@henryhaile1653
@henryhaile1653 3 жыл бұрын
Good
@michaelkimberling7307
@michaelkimberling7307 4 жыл бұрын
I must go. My planet needs meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
@abimanyuputra5185
@abimanyuputra5185 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect he's high on narcotics.
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
The deeper concern would be if the Warp entities of exclusive to The World That Was found their way into 40k, especially Nagash.
@ackbarreserve
@ackbarreserve 4 жыл бұрын
One better: Settra's soul traveled through the warp, reached the Silent King, fused with him and now Nagash faces a necron invasion. Is It dumb? Yes. Would It Be Cool? Also yes.
@codymadison2714
@codymadison2714 4 жыл бұрын
@@ackbarreserve If I was made of money/effort, an undead + Necron kitbash could be pretty cool, with a Necron Nagash as the leader.
@TimeCircleBlue
@TimeCircleBlue 3 жыл бұрын
Ackbar Reserve Sp00ky^2
@Patrick-nw4xq
@Patrick-nw4xq 4 жыл бұрын
"HANDS DO NOT EXIST IN MY REALITY !"
@Bzerka333
@Bzerka333 4 жыл бұрын
New theory: Kaldor draigo found his way to the world that was, eventually died and in turn was rebuilt as a stormcast.
@Slenkamure
@Slenkamure 4 жыл бұрын
that is some meta shit and as such much too deep a plot twist for GW to make canon
@tarmok3756
@tarmok3756 4 жыл бұрын
OR the entire end times was and always will be an massive pile of shit and should not be touched or even thought off in any existing universe
@estanislauqueta4767
@estanislauqueta4767 4 жыл бұрын
@@tarmok3756 or that
@glenmcgillivray4707
@glenmcgillivray4707 4 жыл бұрын
When the solution to move the plot forward is 'tear up everything and make the situation absolutely nonsense' it makes most folks ask 'why did you think THAT was a good way to move forward' No seriously why.
@DrunkenRoadkill
@DrunkenRoadkill 4 жыл бұрын
@@tarmok3756 nah I actually prefer sigmar
@Maliz_Ultraviolet_Lantern
@Maliz_Ultraviolet_Lantern 4 жыл бұрын
Isn’t Isha or whatever her name is in 40k still a prisoner of Nurgle and therefore could not have been rescued? I guess she could have but time in the warp makes it appear to not have happened yet...bleh
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 4 жыл бұрын
This is also one of the reasons that it's easier to treat 40 and fantasy/aos as their own thing, because major events in one doesn't affect the other.
@bvdemier1
@bvdemier1 4 жыл бұрын
Isha being prisoner of Nurgle is something that hasnt been mentioned by GWS in a while. It was mentioned in fourth edition Chaos demons codex from 2008. Since then GWS has been moot about Isha. Eight edition Harliquins codex did mention the eldar trying to free her and Yvraine used a Rose of Isha to enter Nurgle's garden in the audio "Hand of Darkness"
@KitKatHexe
@KitKatHexe 4 жыл бұрын
@@gratuitouslurking8610 or... You know... 40k takes place before fantasy, which would be supported by the fact that the birth of slaanesh is an event that happens on 40K's timeline but Slaanesh's existence is just an objective truth kaldor draigo being involved can also be supported by the fact that time works differently (and sometimes not at all) in the warp
@garymcgregor5951
@garymcgregor5951 4 жыл бұрын
Magos Numenius Magos Numenius wouldn't you say your 2d paragraph nullifies your first? The way time works in the RoC means fantasy/aos could indeed be before 40k.
@prestonjones1653
@prestonjones1653 10 ай бұрын
​@magosnumenius8069 I had heard that Warhammer Fantasy was essentially a weapons testing facility for the Old Ones, a pocket dimension to see what their various soldiers could do to eachother or the demons, and they left the ones that wouldn't work very well in said pocket dimension (skaven, ogres, etc).
@dentheman1797
@dentheman1797 4 жыл бұрын
I love cross-overs between the worlds. I’m forever hoping you do a theory video on the Skaven “far-squeeker” and the mention it has in 40k.
@Kunori
@Kunori 4 жыл бұрын
The Knight could also have just been some kind of warp entity himself. There are "good demons" born from reflections of noble emotions and deeds, they're just comparatively rare.
@Aristaios
@Aristaios 4 жыл бұрын
Legion of the Damned
@ashfield4313
@ashfield4313 4 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting. The description of a knight in silver was also echoed not long ago with some character standing before Slaanesh, which in of itself connects the two worlds with a character. Is it Draigo? Perhaps.
@masterblasterT47
@masterblasterT47 4 жыл бұрын
That story ends with the silver knight bending knee to she who thirsts if i remember correctly. So in my personal head cannon that particular knight was just a human with over the average amount of willpower and self control.
@ashfield4313
@ashfield4313 4 жыл бұрын
@@masterblasterT47 I personally doubt that Draigo is the one kneeling to Slaanesh. It would destroy one of the two foundational elements of the Grey Knights and would be terrible writing and just fanservice to Chaos.
@CrimsonTemplar2
@CrimsonTemplar2 4 жыл бұрын
I find the prospect of a Grey Knight showing up to aid Elves of the Old World to be delightful.
@MrIronWar
@MrIronWar 4 жыл бұрын
I was gonna joke that its Pelinal but from the elder scroll series but remembering his hate bones for elves. Nah. Draigo going on wrap dust trips into other canons. Yea I believe since its the warp and yea it has the power to make one canon or out canon just by looking at it.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
So this means, Kalgor could've also seen the universe of Dark Future?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine Draigo driving in an undersized muscle car?
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories hell yes. Also I imagine him trying to fit into the car.
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories and who knows? Maybe Kaldor also met certain badass with a noisy sword who also fought against cultists of certain inmaterial ballsacks...
@basedchicana1776
@basedchicana1776 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories I can imagine Lutherniel drawing that, actually Hope you're doing well btw
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370
@juliovictormanuelschaeffer8370 4 жыл бұрын
@@basedchicana1776 that would be so rad.
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD
@MDMDMDMDMDMDMDMDMD 4 жыл бұрын
I like these remasters
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
I LIKE YOUR FACE
@sexualyeti7023
@sexualyeti7023 4 жыл бұрын
Well, if Grombrindal says so then it must be true!
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Don't argue with a Dwarf.
@sexualyeti7023
@sexualyeti7023 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Even when they are wrong. Because they will declare a grudge, to right the wrong, right?
@ceee338
@ceee338 4 жыл бұрын
would love a few fantasy theories now and then, your format makes excellent content from even the smallest questions.
@erosharcos8398
@erosharcos8398 4 жыл бұрын
I’ve always loved your academic approach to these theories (citations and quotes, etc) and I would love to see this done for Age of Sigmar as well. Have you ever considered doing more AoS theories?
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
I have, but my knowledge for AoS is still very limited at this point.
@erosharcos8398
@erosharcos8398 4 жыл бұрын
40K Theories this is why you’re my favorite channel ❤️ we can always trust that you’ll provide substantive and informed content.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 4 жыл бұрын
“Wudhelvs”, eh? Never heard of that Aeldari faction. Are they from some kind of Craftworld? Also, this “Stormcast Eternals” chapter sounds suspiciously like a second phase of Primaris “upgrades” incorporating Necron tech-heresy.... Cawl’s definitely gone too far this time..
@Silverhawk100
@Silverhawk100 4 жыл бұрын
They're Exodites.
@Zakvadr1995
@Zakvadr1995 4 жыл бұрын
I’m calling the inquisition. They need to know about this.
@Tonatsi
@Tonatsi 3 жыл бұрын
Call a call to cawl Cawling cawl
@jordanjensen2514
@jordanjensen2514 4 жыл бұрын
I'm currently playing Warhammer 2 when this came up.
@Deridus
@Deridus 4 жыл бұрын
Purge the Knife Ears! For the Heldenhammer!
@ronanchristiana.belleza9270
@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 4 жыл бұрын
@@Deridus As long as you Purge the Dark Knife Ears i'm Fine with it
@richardnixon2445
@richardnixon2445 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else got that feeling of deja vú
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the original version of this video had a few pretty major errors which have been corrected in this version (along with other general improvements)
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
DEJA WHO?!?!?!?! DEJA BLUE? FU ? MAN CHU????????!!!!!!!!!!!!?!?!?!!?!?!?!AAHAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEUUUUUUAAAAAAAHAAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@williamburnett3660
@williamburnett3660 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories quick question, do you think the modern Sly marboo is some sort of warp entity created out of the legends and rumors of the original sly marboo ( sorry if I didn't get the name right)?
@AlyssMa7rin
@AlyssMa7rin 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Lahv!
@60sSam
@60sSam 4 жыл бұрын
The only person with more plot armor than Kaldor Draigo is Mkoll from the Gaunt's Ghosts books.
@mrwri
@mrwri 4 жыл бұрын
So is it ever confirmed that Fantasy and 40k co-exist, even through the warp? Because Draigo seems pretty evident of that.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I point out several sources confirming that in this video. :)
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
ILL TELL YOU THAT YOU ICON IS EVIDENCE ENOUGH To SAY NO TO THAT
@mrwri
@mrwri 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories Cool cheers!
@legionaireb
@legionaireb 4 жыл бұрын
There have been numerous points throughout GW lore that indicate a connection, the strongest of which Remliez mentions in this video (there are also a handful of cases in Fantasy where people perceiving multiple realities see Eldar).
@FelixArgyleAUS
@FelixArgyleAUS 4 жыл бұрын
I have been to the realm of Chaos. Well, it wasn't very much a realm of chaos as an Aldi. It was like an elderly orgy of angry Karens and disgruntled Kyles. I was just there for some brioche pre-cut hotdog buns and a bottle of O'Donnells Irish Country Cream Liqueur but I ended up swinging my mighty shopping trolley and cleaving 13 pensioners across the store and into the frozen goods cooler bins.
@garymcgregor5951
@garymcgregor5951 4 жыл бұрын
Felix Argyle I HAVE been to the RoC. In it's own tongue, it is called "Walmart"!
@kulrigalestout
@kulrigalestout 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's a giant of a man clad in lustrous silver armor wielding a magical sword and firing blue lightning from his hands... but what of his Storm Bolter? Ammo may be hard to come by in the Warp, but he can use it with no restriction in gameplay so you know he has some available for special occasions. And you'd think that he'd have some saved up for an occasion as special as assaulting Nurgle's Mansion! It's not like even a race as reclusive as the Wood Elves doesn't know what a gun is either, because they hate the Dwarves and frequently fight against Skaven and the Empire. I dunno, as awesome as it would be for Draigo to add another meme to his collection, that one little omission is what makes me doubt it was Draigo. Instead, I bet it was foreshadowing to the Sigmarines.
@honkeykong4049
@honkeykong4049 4 жыл бұрын
Okay, but that begs the question then of if the Eternals are "beyond Daemons' ability to kill" - because I'm very much certain they aren't. I'm not talking about dying and being reforged either, I'm saying simply not being killed in the first place. To me, that takes a typical Sigmarine off the list of who it could be.
@henryhaile1653
@henryhaile1653 3 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure Draigo doesn't have one, going the way of Grey Knight Paladins (like purifiers but better at swordfighting, and they did a bunch of work to basically just be bodyguards for grandmasters and shock troops to the Grey Knights who are shock troops to space marines who are shock troops) who forsake ranged weapons altogether (for some fucking reason) and just go sword and shield. All the art I've seen of Draigo is just his sword and shield. I'd also assume that he'd run out pretty quick fighting daemons almost constantly for thousands of years. In the books I read, ones that featured Alaric, and Garran Crowe, they both seemed to be running low on ammo constantly throughout their respective books, having to take ammo from their fallen comrades when they could, and to make what ammunition they had count. In Crowe's case, they were fighting Slaaneshi forces and the Masque of Slaanesh taking over a world just as the cicadrix maladictum (whatever who cares) opened, and in Alaric's case, fighting a whole forge world that had been corrupted in the warp for 1000 years, though they did have some tech guard and a grandmagos with them (also aided by some tech guard who rebelled against the dark mechanicus) but still. Draigo probably wouldn't have the ammo after all his time fighting, and given his psychic potential, probably didn't need it.
@Confucios1118
@Confucios1118 4 жыл бұрын
I like to theorize Leman Russ is actually in the warp on a quest to rescue the goddess. I know this is too nice to fit into the 40k universe, but I like to think Leman’s pause was him hearing a message her, and knowing the mission to rescue her was suicidal, even for him. Plus I think it would’ve been cool to see the Space Wolf Primarch interacting civilly with the beautiful goddess, even if not romantically, just him trying to be nice. Assuming he just doesn’t go xenophobia on her, and just kill her outright.
@DefiantSpurr
@DefiantSpurr 4 жыл бұрын
I always liked the idea that Russ was sent into the warp to get one of the "lost" primarchs. Who better to being back one of the two, than the primarch likely responsible for putting him there.
@mattkennedy9308
@mattkennedy9308 4 жыл бұрын
@@DefiantSpurr I reckon he went to go sort out the other Primarchs rather than a Lost Primarch. Seriously there's like 4 other Loyalists in there. You've definitely got Jaghatai and Corvus, Vulkan is a strong maybe and there's probably Dorn in there as well if he isn't dead. Only Loyalists in real-space are dead, napping Lion and Rawbutt Girlyman.
@shotguncleric
@shotguncleric 4 жыл бұрын
dunno about goddesses but he definitely had an in with that cannoness at the gate
@Snakedude4life
@Snakedude4life 4 жыл бұрын
Are the chaos gods in the old world and the chaos gods in 40K basically the same or are they somewhat separate beings? And if they are different beings; which one is “stronger”? Also: HORNED RAT 🎩 🐍 no step on SNEK! 🇺🇸🇭🇰
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
They are basically the same. This is stated outright in the June 2018 edition of White Dwarf (Which is shown in this video. Make sure to pause the video so you can read the full answer they give ;) )
@Snakedude4life
@Snakedude4life 4 жыл бұрын
40K Theories ah, I see.
@Fourtytwo4242
@Fourtytwo4242 4 жыл бұрын
depends on who you ask, my opinion they are two different beings but both share the same type of form. Korn is war, Nurgle is sickness, Tzeentch is knowledge, slaanesh is lust. Who is stronger goes to 40k by a lot they are beings power by belief after all, having billions of people worshiping you daily gives you a big boost. In fantasy they have maybe at most 40 million followers top. You can see the power difference from how many deamons they can spawn, fantasy you got maybe at most 20,000 deamons 40k likewise can up to a few million deamons.
@LouisKing995
@LouisKing995 4 жыл бұрын
42 42 Well, you don’t know how many other races in other worlds also worship the fantasy chaos gods. Just as how humans aren’t the only worshipers of chaos in the 40k universe, nor have they always been.
@gratuitouslurking8610
@gratuitouslurking8610 4 жыл бұрын
The realm of chaos itself is heavily implied to be the same, but GW has gone out of it's way to try and keep fantasy and 40k away from each other in more recent times. Lesso in the past, however: Not only was the ancient Realm of Chaos books designed to allow crossplay to various levels (especially as this was the era of Rogue Trader, where things were far looser) and there was events where fantasy factions would find relic weapons far beyond their tech level that essentially were 40k relics. Again, though, that was far, far before the series growing more serious, and in particular the End Times itself.
@whynot6262
@whynot6262 4 жыл бұрын
as i was listening i felt like id heard this script before. good to see a remastered version of a good story
@Matt-md5yt
@Matt-md5yt 4 жыл бұрын
Glad you covered this one again.
@vincelycaner4259
@vincelycaner4259 4 жыл бұрын
Him just on an epic quest to find More WARP DUST !!!
@tommartin3888
@tommartin3888 4 жыл бұрын
I have a crazy theory. It's the tin Man. After Dorothy and Toto went into the maze of Tzeench. The tin Man got lost and ended up in the garden or Nurgle.
@Relocklabs
@Relocklabs 4 жыл бұрын
I love seeing you get more and more frustrated that no one reads the description.. the schemes and twists of chaos at work no doubt!
@kaldordraigo3566
@kaldordraigo3566 3 жыл бұрын
Finally some good quality content in that lost sector...
@hughgedney3393
@hughgedney3393 3 жыл бұрын
A very extremely awesome video as always 40k Theories.
@tommartin3888
@tommartin3888 4 жыл бұрын
"You see deamons. I'm not trapped in this garden with you! You're trapped in here with me!" - Silver clad knight.
@Epifairos
@Epifairos 4 жыл бұрын
In realms of chaos, the flow of time itself is convoluted; with heroes centuries old phasing in and out. It's clearly Solaire of Astora who joined in for some jolly cooperation and praising the Sun-Emperor of Mankind! :D
@leozafirov8209
@leozafirov8209 3 жыл бұрын
My sun.... Is setting
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
Remleiz, I've been thinking about this for a bit now, I'm wondering if you think the 4 Chaos Gods could destroy any entity like Drach'nyen?
@imperialfist2304
@imperialfist2304 4 жыл бұрын
ORDO DRAIGO, WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS-Kaldor Draigo before joining the Elves on their mission
@magnusthered1610
@magnusthered1610 4 жыл бұрын
HAVE YOU SEE MY SWORD ANYWHERE ?
@ronanchristiana.belleza9270
@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 4 жыл бұрын
Blood Raven: We Claim This Sword as our Property
@ToniHyvarinen86
@ToniHyvarinen86 4 жыл бұрын
"Where in the old world is Kaldor Draigo?"
@Deridus
@Deridus 4 жыл бұрын
Be QUIET, Dominique!
@JohnSmith-kp7hh
@JohnSmith-kp7hh 4 жыл бұрын
'The world that was' AKA The world with all the fluff and lore and grimdark aspects people wanted out of the fantasy setting.
@seal7144
@seal7144 4 жыл бұрын
Oh cool. I though I just got a recommendation of the old vid, this is nice.
@TheAndrain
@TheAndrain 4 жыл бұрын
So our boy, went to Nurgle's Villa and made a stink to practice for he'd go after his main mansion and wait until Cegorach chose some Eldar to bust out Isha?
@BackupSix76066
@BackupSix76066 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, i was just thinking of Kaldor
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
WHY THANK YOU GOOD LADY
@BackupSix76066
@BackupSix76066 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldortangerine KALDOR WHAT ORDO DO YOU REPRESENT?
@Kaldortangerine
@Kaldortangerine 4 жыл бұрын
Backup67601 66 ORDO DRAIGO PRESENT, WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAM!
@BackupSix76066
@BackupSix76066 4 жыл бұрын
@@Kaldortangerine THANK YOU KALDOR, THE HAM WILL PROVE VERY USEFUL ON OUR CRUSADE!
@PandorasFolly
@PandorasFolly 4 жыл бұрын
@@BackupSix76066 send them into the super warp
@jamjar1726
@jamjar1726 2 жыл бұрын
some people think that fantasy is cut of from the galaxy via warp-storm, some people think 40k is inside a bottle in a wizards tower, i think both, because it explains nearly every retcon.
@00784865
@00784865 4 жыл бұрын
Well the universes are connected because the Skaven found what can be described as a phone of the Old Ones and used it to prankcall some Craftworld Eldar.
@tranminh-hm2nk
@tranminh-hm2nk 4 жыл бұрын
When the Imperium needs Khaldor the most, he still roams the Warp, banging Slaneeshi daemonettes and getting high on warp dust
@phreakazoith2237
@phreakazoith2237 4 жыл бұрын
what's gonna happen if Kaldor sniffs 40k warp dust and Fantasy warp stone mixed together?
@GhostBear3067
@GhostBear3067 3 жыл бұрын
I thought he already had. I mean, have you seen his current behavior? High on narcotics indeed.
@rakelodakel
@rakelodakel 4 жыл бұрын
I really like the idea that the universes are connected through the warp. But how does that translate for characters like Be'lakor? Is he the same in both worlds, or are there at least two versions of him?
@0utL0ud
@0utL0ud 4 жыл бұрын
It’s back
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
_Eric Bischoff theme plays_
@8jgonz
@8jgonz 4 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I can only "see" the now hard to find Flashgutz rendition of Kaldor Draigo.
@rocketpod1
@rocketpod1 4 жыл бұрын
You got a link to it?
@8jgonz
@8jgonz 4 жыл бұрын
@@rocketpod1 I did a search on flashgitz kaldor...it keeps getting shut down. The latest version is with a user called tockentocken...
@rocketpod1
@rocketpod1 4 жыл бұрын
e-chuck thanks
@colinbielat8558
@colinbielat8558 3 жыл бұрын
If you are looking for the flashgitz video, go to new grounds, it still has all their old warhammer videos
@matan8074
@matan8074 4 жыл бұрын
Is this a reupload of an older video as I seem to recall watching this before.
@40KTheories
@40KTheories 4 жыл бұрын
As stated previously, this is a remaster correcting a number of glaring errors that were in the previous version, as well as general overall improvements (as stated in the video description)
@matan8074
@matan8074 4 жыл бұрын
@@40KTheories ok
@dlastkatipunero2185
@dlastkatipunero2185 4 жыл бұрын
I love the idea and hope it's true... Why wasn't his strange massive shield or wrist storm bolter mentioned?
@bladestorm337
@bladestorm337 4 жыл бұрын
HI INNERNET!!!!!
@felixfalona6792
@felixfalona6792 4 жыл бұрын
hi
@deboshadow
@deboshadow 4 жыл бұрын
It's the Warp Dust Fiend. The Warhammer world is in 40k near the galactic southern core of I remember correctly. You can see the planet named in one of the old pre 3rd edition books
@MyTomServo
@MyTomServo 4 жыл бұрын
Is it possible he's related to Solkan or something?
@JJumper8888
@JJumper8888 4 жыл бұрын
The Chaosgods: "Oh bloody hell now this bloody Grey knight pisses us into the pint in both fcking timelines"
@rhuiah
@rhuiah 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone else finding the lack of "the knight was obviously Alpharius" comments to be a bit suspicious?
@macetoface
@macetoface 4 жыл бұрын
Couldn’t be Kaldor that Areloth encountered. How could Kaldor communicate to him that his greatest of enemies are the Gods of Chaos? Maybe psychic suggestion? Or Areloth understands high/low Gothic.
@henryhaile1653
@henryhaile1653 3 жыл бұрын
Probably he used a combination of psychic communication and suggestion to translate the words/ideas as he spoke, essentially making a translator.
@cthulhupthagn5771
@cthulhupthagn5771 4 жыл бұрын
I think if you ask Ward, it is Kaldor. I think if you ask anyone else, its a timelost Stormcast who is perhaps at best Kaldor if he was a Sigmar character (so, no more than an easter egg ). GW has made it abundantly clear that there is no connection between the two settings. They have also (via the Gotrek audio books) made it clear the Old World still survives and it can be reached via AoS.
@dylan__dog
@dylan__dog 4 жыл бұрын
The old world survives?
@markrajca6783
@markrajca6783 4 жыл бұрын
Big Sig could have forced time shifts if he hand the power. Also, could have been a proto cast of an eternal. Could have been doing this for some time before mortals knew of it.
@mrgreybrownin5039
@mrgreybrownin5039 4 жыл бұрын
AoS be blessed.
@AsbestosMuffins
@AsbestosMuffins 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not saying it is Kaldor Drego, but I'm also not saying he wouldn't or couldn't do this either
@trevor3194
@trevor3194 4 жыл бұрын
Wait there’s a multiverse.... my brain is broken because Warhammer is complicated
@DrunkenRoadkill
@DrunkenRoadkill 4 жыл бұрын
Always down for more sigmar theorys
@13579zod
@13579zod 4 жыл бұрын
It’s not a bad theory, but I think the stormcast eternal Gardus of the Hallowed Knights is a better fit. He was drawn into the garden of Nurgle during the realmgate wars, where he wandered the garden battling demons and setting fires wherever he went. Hallowed Knights armour is predominantly silver, and they are sworn enemies of the chaos gods. Any stormcast is beyond Chaos’s ability to slay because when they “die” their soul returns to Sigmar to be reforged. Also when Gardus returns to the mortal realms, a fellow Hallowed Knight remarks how his armour appears to be punctured by a spear. Baring in mind that time doesn’t flow linearly in the chaos realms, it is possible a stormcast could encounter a group of adventurous from the world that was.
@fl00fydragon
@fl00fydragon 4 жыл бұрын
"Thank you for rescuing me, in exchange, I shall accompany you, for I see that you require hams."
@yintheblessed
@yintheblessed 4 жыл бұрын
LET ME GATHER MY CHAKRA SO I CAN ACCURATELY PERFORM THIS NINJA MOVE
@13931411119
@13931411119 4 жыл бұрын
Ground marines before ground marines ?
@Audiotrocious
@Audiotrocious 4 жыл бұрын
I have a beard made of tiny men. I LIKE JUMPING!
@suddenlythatenderman5800
@suddenlythatenderman5800 4 жыл бұрын
ORDER DRAIGO HERE WE WILL PROVIDE THE HAMS
@GreyJuggernaut
@GreyJuggernaut 4 жыл бұрын
Just an opinion, but I do prefer the idea of Kaldor Draigo being the knight they found. Not because I'm a sucker for crossovers (I am though) nor due to my less than enthusiastic feelings towards Age of Sigmar. My preference comes from the simple idea that the world of Warhammer Fantasy holding the answers to the conundrums of 40K, such as the creation of a new god-like being similar to the emperor without the mass suicide of psykers thing. As well as, that it's essentially a world filled to the brim with the potential of the Warp that acts that require immense resources and artifacts of protection to achieve in 40K are a matter that a single person with a silly looking staff can achieve in Fantasy.
@johnpjones1775
@johnpjones1775 4 жыл бұрын
ya know, i hope they bring back a link between fantasy/AOS and 40k, it could bring back the possibility that sigmar is one of the lost primarch.
@jackotheclanner
@jackotheclanner 4 жыл бұрын
there are suns in the warp?
@Grayfox251
@Grayfox251 4 жыл бұрын
HE IS ONE!!
@SunBearerofEl
@SunBearerofEl 4 жыл бұрын
Curious if there is such story that connects Orks to Orrucks.
@APOLLYON-IV
@APOLLYON-IV 3 жыл бұрын
Kaldor Draigo. The biggest mindfuck in existence
@michaelhowell2326
@michaelhowell2326 4 жыл бұрын
DAMN YOU, MATT WARD!
@Deridus
@Deridus 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@christopherg2347
@christopherg2347 4 жыл бұрын
It used to be, that Warhammer Fantasy and Warhammer 40k were a shared universe. That the Fantasy world existed somewhere in the 40k Universe. While that idea was scrapped, they seem to have reintroduced it via the Multiverse theory.
@ithemba
@ithemba Жыл бұрын
it never actually was clearly established or stated - but heavily implied throughout the 3rd edition 40k / 6th edition fantasy. I think it also was remarked on in the old fluff bible that was never intendet for public release but for establishing the common baseline of lore for all the different writers in the setting, then leaked in the early 00s.
@derfzgrld
@derfzgrld 4 жыл бұрын
Nice theory but the two universes are completely separate. While they share some (chaos) characters, a lot of their background material differs. Such as the birth of slaanesh and (I think) also the background of Skarbrand. Edit: Of course there is always the opportunity that an author doesnt notice that and creates a reference or so.
@Haamre
@Haamre 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine what would happen, if Cato Sicarius would be given the order to "support" that expedition into Nurgle's garden... :P
@leozafirov8209
@leozafirov8209 3 жыл бұрын
You mean the wonderfully, amazing and prestigious Cato Sicarius and future leader of the blueberries
@Taistelukalkkuna
@Taistelukalkkuna 4 жыл бұрын
"Warfare is not exact science....."
@Le-cp9tr
@Le-cp9tr 4 жыл бұрын
Otto Von Remliech from Warhammer Fantasy Theories?
@felixfalona6792
@felixfalona6792 4 жыл бұрын
ha, ha.
@BStenlund
@BStenlund 4 жыл бұрын
He must have a good Ward save to survive in the the cursed garden of Nurgle..
@Malphazar
@Malphazar 4 жыл бұрын
"IM A PIRATE!"
@ErickGarcia-le8pt
@ErickGarcia-le8pt 4 жыл бұрын
¡NO SUN!
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