Lapua Rimfire Performance Center 2023 - Lot Testing for Best Accuracy

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8 ай бұрын

Timestamp topics:
Meet Mesa's Expert Specialists intro - 01:47
How the target system works / preparation - 03:00
Discussing twist rates - 06:29
Why some lots are better than others - 08:15
What's the difference between Lapua 22lr Brands? - 09:13
Barrel tuners, when can they help - 10:10
Testing a 10/22 - 11:16
Picking the best lot - 12:05
Going over results - 12:53
Expert Specialists conclusion - 18:20
Closing, Why the Lapua Test Center is important - 19:16
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@Womfat 7 ай бұрын

So much great info in this video. Really interesting hearing the technician discuss twist rates around 7min. Thanks for taking us behind.m the scenes, really wish lot testing was more accessible here in Canada.

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

Ill do a follow up with the ammo I got and further explain some factors talked about in this video with a down range demonstration. Lot testing is very important and is also as important for rifle builders being able to manufacture a rifle setup that has a wide performance band. Just as you mentioned, some folk do not have the ability to send in their rifles for lot testing

@Womfat 7 ай бұрын

@@EagleEyeShooting Great point about the performance band. The barrel you cut for me is quite forgiving, it might not shoot benchrest groups, but it's not a picky barrel and shoots any match grade ammo well enough to use at a match.

@markthibault8579 7 ай бұрын

@@Womfat Perhaps the config can be known as the "Canadian chamber". ;-)

@SpringGunner13 2 ай бұрын

Very very cool. Thank you!

@FullLeadTaco 7 ай бұрын

Even though I'm not a big fan of 22LR, I can appreciate the work you put into this video and the information you gathered and shared. Hope your business is killin' it!

@22rimfireultra67 7 ай бұрын

Excellent presentation. Tied up the 'loose ends' of understanding lot testing. Thanks Kenny for the time and effort to make this video! Thanks Ryan and Jeff for time, patience and explanation during your work day!

@John-uo1qf 7 ай бұрын

I'm on my second case of Center X after sending my barreled action to Mesa. The knowledge that I'm using the best ammo for my gun is as important for the mental game as is the actual accuracy improvement. Love NRL22

@briansupermag3918 7 ай бұрын

Well that was fantastic Kenny. Great speaking with you last night on the phone about my build. 😊 Yup, I can't wait. Can't wait to get that MDT ELITE chassis with that full bull 24" barrel. But very excited about trying out that ELITE CHASSIS. Feel free on doing a 22 build video on her😂😂. That would be amazing. 😂😂. Thx Kenny for all your hard work. I'll be kicking the 22 guys butts around here in friendly comps...😂. Build video build video😂❤❤

@jaywright2276 7 ай бұрын

man when i first saw you you were in a eric cortina video getting rip onn now your a gunsmith jedi

@John-uo1qf 7 ай бұрын

Curious what the best results the test center has seen?

@jerryjackson5939 14 күн бұрын

Ryan tested my Anschutz and found a lot of Center-X that shoots really great in it!

@MrJayBlackwind 7 ай бұрын

I was in Schönebeck Lapua/SK plant on 13th March and did my lot test there. We had 4 different lots of Lapua LR already. It’s the same software used in Germany. Picked up 12k of Lapua LR and SK Match which were also running great in my B14r. It’s a cool facility and very nice people, also had a discussion about my ECTuner

@CyclopsJoeVideos 7 ай бұрын

Outstanding Video Kenny

@BROTUNED 7 ай бұрын

Very informative video glad to see this. Thanks again for another great video!

@bryanduchane2371 7 ай бұрын

Great video!!!

@gregturner7670 7 ай бұрын

That’s pretty cool like to see more content from you stay safe

@jerrylindner5431 7 ай бұрын

Another great video. Your editor does a great job.

@unclejohn1053 7 ай бұрын

impressive stuff. thanks kenny.

@chaddfry5345 6 ай бұрын

Excellent video!

@Michael_45_AARP 7 ай бұрын

Another great video Kenny. I plan on sending mine out there one day. It’s hammering Lapua Long Range right now.

@unclejim2330 7 ай бұрын

The Dyno of 22.

@Michigan4Conservative 7 ай бұрын

Great information. Thank you. 👍

@InSightFreedom 7 ай бұрын

Fascinating.

@dontamad8600 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the info..

@sekaf4125 7 ай бұрын

I had a custom Vudoo made. I don’t do any type of comp shooting. I just wanted a great gun. It shoots great with Sk standard. After having close to 2000 rounds through it ifinallygot3 boxes of Lapua. Long range. My first 10 shot group 1 hole, round ,have the size of dime. Mind blown. My gun loves Lapua long range I need Togo to this place

@pmccutchoen5840 7 ай бұрын

Fantastic video 🎉🎉❤❤

@IY6C 7 ай бұрын

Great video

@asanta5390 7 ай бұрын

Great info. Wish we had a lapua test centre in Australia. Cheers

@miketokar9010 6 ай бұрын

Great video, lots of good information

@XRING 7 ай бұрын

Good video Kenny. I need you to give me a call.

@dppss 3 ай бұрын

Great video! We need a test center in Canada!

@JT-py9lv 7 ай бұрын

Been there, done that, got the t-shirt.

@jimmccaffery410 7 ай бұрын

Wish you had footage of the Benchrest rifle. Last time I was there, they removed the action and placed it in the vice. Testing the entire chassis with the mounted action is how everyone will shoot. It’s more representative of the real world. Showing target impacts was a lot easier to deal with than the pages of histograms I received.

@user-ln8zq3ux3r 7 ай бұрын

hey like all info u give. I have question. I have a cva cascade 308 sb . An wondering if what tuner break u would recommend. Tks

@MatthiasWelsh 7 ай бұрын

Would you be willing to make your groups available or run them through the BlackBurn Defense Group Comparison tool? I'm really curious to see if the 20 shots is enough to hit statistically significant. With the variables being so minor it feels like there's a good chance this is just feels good.

@michaelbutler4961 7 ай бұрын

Good information, Thank you for taking the time and for sharing. When they are lot testing are there different lots within the same ammo? For example, CenterX lot 101 lot 102, etc or are they talking more like CenterX vs Midas Plus? Some other brands have several lot #'s within the same Round example Eley Tenex. Interesting that he is saying you may benefit from a tuner if you have vertical grouping.

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

You can test from the Lapua Rimfire selection line of Center-X, Midas+, and X-ACT. Sometimes lots are synchronous in numbers, but as discussed, it's what is available at current distributors' inventory

@michaelblackburn7432 6 ай бұрын

Question: have you ever chambered a barrel in the opposite direction so it’s a reverse taper barrel? Reason being, we want weight out front to balance a rifle, add more weight out front, take away weight from the receiver end. Obviously a heavier mtu like barrel would make sense. Just curious, thanks.

@benb1355 7 ай бұрын

Great video and the best explanation of the test center process. I was surprised how slow the speed was with one of your rifles - 950fps, guessing that was the 24" barrel. Would be amazing if you were able to do this same video again with the same rifles at the Eley test center. The comparison would be great.

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

Definitely would consider if time permits trying Eley Test center. The speed your seeing is at 50m and 100m. Velocities are 1060-1090 at the muzzle

@benb1355 7 ай бұрын

@@EagleEyeShooting thats more like the speed I'd be expecting, I'm getting around 1090 out of a 25" 14 twist barrel

@ShowemRight 7 ай бұрын

When I started cleaning my rifles barrel more often then I use to, I get way better accuracy, Rim, Centerfire, and even Pellets. My last white patch must be as white as the first patch I put through it.

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

I let a bore cam tell me how clean a barrel is or not

@John-uo1qf 7 ай бұрын

For rimfire I just soak the carbon ring out of the chamber and leave the barrel seasoned

@ShowemRight 7 ай бұрын

@@EagleEyeShooting Indeed it will, sight on target is the best remedy for that matter. I wanna see if I can get a way better Rim Fire Group, by lightly polishing up the bullet and perhaps 1/4" of the casing from the edge of the bullet on downwards, because my pellet groups are tight when I apply this technique to them.

@realtruth4259 7 ай бұрын

GR8 VIDEO 🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 HOW MUCH TO DO THIS PROCEDURE

@coal_tactical 6 ай бұрын

7 months booked in advanced right now lol

@cadecorneliusen3047 7 ай бұрын

Been there years ago. Looks like some changes have been made

@shanevmax34 3 ай бұрын

Recently thought about joining the NRL-22 community, but the rabbit hole is WAY too deep in the rimfire neighborhood. I have $6,000 tied up into a 6.5 Creedmoor setup....I'll be damned if I spend another $6K to shoot 22lr.

@epodepodepod 7 ай бұрын

Was the Dmax C-C or E-E? Thanks for the video Kenny! Looking forward to seeing the new testing for myself in a few months.

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

Hey Victor! The D-Max on the left is overall group combined of 10 shots or 20 total. As stated it sometimes is skewed if the down range sensors did not pick up a shot. Semi autos also tend to walk a little due to small recoio

@epodepodepod 7 ай бұрын

@@EagleEyeShooting was it measuring center to center or edge to edge?

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

@epodepodepod This setup was center to center but can request edge to egde as well as in metric measurements

@RimfireXL 7 ай бұрын

Hey Kenny what is the best chamber size for vudoo 360 to be the least fussy with ammo. What chamber did you cut for womfat's vudoo that you built for him?

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

My chambers are custom designed for my specifications. I based them on others but tweaked lead angles and fitment.

@RimfireXL 7 ай бұрын

@EagleEyeShooting thanks for the info Kenny, appreciate your time.

@KeithJamesDesigns 7 ай бұрын

What do you do with 2K of a lot that isn't working out?

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

Snipershide buy/sell/trade

@brucepierce4971 4 ай бұрын

What is the cost to do these test.

@seanwoodburn2616 7 ай бұрын

Just wow... Pistol too?

@EagleEyeShooting 7 ай бұрын

Yes! They have a Pistol rest for testing also

@seanwoodburn2616 7 ай бұрын

@EagleEyeShooting Thanks for doing such an amazing job of bringing this opportunity to light. SO much time and money to save here. Cheers!

@thelittledetailscr7231 7 ай бұрын

Sorry about the 22 ARC

@thelittledetailscr7231 7 ай бұрын

@@SDMacMan They stole the idea from him.

@6creeder688 7 ай бұрын

Dang you and Rick been sleep for months 😂

@dirtatv 4 ай бұрын

I don’t know why people are always talking about having to retune for different weather and altitude. NO !!!!! You use the tuner to make the ammo shot better at one condition and STAY with it YOU don’t change lot # based on those factors too Right?!?!? Because if that’s the case, why am I lot testing in Arizona when I’m shooting in Buffalo New York

@EagleEyeShooting 4 ай бұрын

Apparently, you do not know how a tuner works... many of my benchrest competitors will state tuning to DA (density altitude)

@dirtatv 4 ай бұрын

@@EagleEyeShooting Ok so please explain it to US ( me ) What’s the difference between tuning for DA and any other condition, or shooting your lot tested ammo Like I said before, No shorter take multiple lots of ammo to a match and pick the best one for that Day nor people take the reloading press and powder scale to load and test ammo for that day Is the same concept you Don’t keep changing your tuner settings every day for every match USE THE TUNER ON YOUR AMMO YOU HAD TESTED and leave it Why they need of returning constantly

@EagleEyeShooting 4 ай бұрын

Firstly, I don't recommend tuners for my 22lr builds. I use heavy contour barrels to minimize cross velocity of a barrel. 2nd, only certain lots are tunable. As stated in this video, vertical stringing lots can be tuned. Those that travel to higher altitude areas and compete at 100m BR will tune their vertical deviation. I still see this with the vast temp swings we have in AZ as ammo velocity will vary +-40 fps. Even with lot tested ammo

@kevinbrandewie5740 7 ай бұрын

Great video except for the fact that it highlights one of the things that bugs the crap out of me when it comes to these ammo companies. All the ammo is made off the same machines with the same components and yet they can arbitrarily throw adjectives on a box and sell at wildly different price ranges because of some lot testing that they won't tell you about and make no guarantees that your gun will like any particular adjective laced box. Rant over lol.

@dieseldan5189 5 ай бұрын

I recommend that research be performed regarding chambers for Ely and RWS rimfire ammo, or better yet, 2nd tier target ammo like Federal Gold medal and Remington/CCI target. It is impossible to find Lapua rimfire ammo unless you are connected somehow ie a gunsmith, sponsored shooter etc. And when you do find it, the price markup is really high. I will not buy a rifle that is built and tuned for Lapua ammo. Period!

@EagleEyeShooting 5 ай бұрын

As I read your comment, I quickly googled what's available at this time. Creedmoor sports has Lapua LR instock as well as elevated guns ports. Goodshooting also has CX and LR in stock... I have no issue getting Lapua ammo and shoot a case a month for my rifle builds. We are not sponsored and buy the ammo as you would. Secondly, A good rifle builder would know how to build a rifle that's not picky on ammo and can shoot any match ammo really well. It may favor a certain brand but still can find others that perform just aswell. Look up cyclops Joe on youtube and see who built his Rim-X