yes, a more comfortable and more equipped version of a polestar 4

@Bjørn Nyland Did u know that Zeekr get new update. Now is reduce some irritating sounds which u notice in your first test. I'd like you to test it again, this time at the 1000 km challenge 😊

Haha, no it won't.

Why? That's the truth.

@@IstvanDarabos And that's precisely why it'll upset them.

People get upset at the drop of a hat nowadays. Chill and have a laugh instead 🎉🎊

all lexus users know they want toyota reliability with luxury so they wont get upset with your statement

In Germany basically no changes. Still 69ct and 49ct with 5,99€ monthly. But a new option starts at 39ct for 11,99€ monthly. (Either way, since their chargers are spaced so far apart ENBW still is the better option (even Tesla Superchargers are more common than ionity, but still not as common as ENBW).

It is written: EnBW. Ionity has many well located Autobahn locations, and once you travel also outside of Germany, you get nothing for your 17,99€ EnBW subscription.

The punishment system is simply limiting the battery to 3.8 fast charging sessions in 24hrs .. this is up from 2 fast charging session/24hrs before the summer 2023 update

Still 79.9p in the UK at service stations.

"Solid results for the RZ! " Incorrect. In reality it was quite mediocre. It was beaten by 73 other cars while it only beat 55 other cars. "And you know the RZ will still be supported many many years down the road unlike many other EV brands." That's a weird claim. "Haters gonna hate, but their is no denying Lexus/Toyota quality and reliability." Is that why so many customers returned their subpar BZ4X cars due to poor winter range? Or why Toyota issued a recall on the model because of the risk of losing the wheels while driving? It's kind of interesting how one of the largest automakers in the world is at the bottom when it comes to EV transition. Add to that their stupid claims about EVs and it's not hard to understand why so many people view Toyota as the clown of the industry.

@@yourcrazybear The overall on this car is descent charge speed, pretty low consumption rate and EXCELLENT driving qualities with ride and build. That's SOLID. You are taking one metric and throwing this car in the garbage can. Future support is IMPORTANT - not a weird comment at all. Knowing your car company has a long history of survival, strong dealer network for any repairs necessary with an appropriate parts bin to replace parts without taking months, software updates, recalls, etc. is MEANINGFUL. Those are the other boxes many car company can't check ie. Tesla's takes months to repair, Fisker out of business, Rivian (hmm maybe they will survive?), Hyundai/Kia denying battery claims resulting in a totalled car, VW horrible software needing to hard reset the ID4. Pick your poison, there is NO perfect car company.

​@@ParzivalHB "@yourcrazybear The overall on this car is descent charge speed, pretty low consumption rate and EXCELLENT driving qualities with ride and build. That's SOLID." If it had great charging speed and consumption the results would not have been mediocre in this test. It's not solid. It's mediocre. " You are taking one metric and throwing this car in the garbage can." I was commenting on the topic for this video, as were you. If you want to take a swing at the mediocre range you are welcome to do that as well. "Future support is IMPORTANT - not a weird comment at all. Knowing your car company has a long history of survival, strong dealer network for any repairs necessary with an appropriate parts bin to replace parts without taking months, software updates, recalls, etc. is MEANINGFUL. " On the contrary. It's a weird comment if you try and claim that the clown of the industry would be the safest bet for long term support. The simple fact is that if Toyota doesn't get their shit together soon they will meet the same fate as Nokia and Kodak. It's a risky move to buy a Toyota today. "Those are the other boxes many car company can't check ie." Nonsense. Tesla is the leader in the industry. They would be the last company to fall. Legacy automakers on the other are fighting for their survival. "Tesla's takes months to repair, " You better hide from people with experience telling another story. "Fisker out of business, " So will Toyota unless they change their path. "Rivian (hmm maybe they will survive?)," They are putting in a greater effort than Toyota to say the least. "Hyundai/Kia denying battery claims resulting in a totalled car," There are countless happy owners of Hyndai and Kia. "VW horrible software needing to hard reset the ID4." Horrible software? Much like the rest of the legacy automakers then, including Toyota. "Pick your poison, there is NO perfect car company." Which is kind of irrelevant since I never claimed that. It also doesn't change the fact that this car did get mediocre results in the test.

last summer I checked the infrastructure around Athens and I thought it lacked somewhat(and pricier than I expected) ,but then again,max highway speed is 90-100 so it's ok .

lol you like pain good luck keep convincing yourself it’s fun

Must be in nice to visit multiple countries with different food and cultures on your road trip. I did a 4,900 km road trip from Melbourne to Sunshine Coast, north of Brisbane and return in Australia and it was the same people, food and culture - not even close to leaving the country 😂

@@justinseau It is really nice yes. We get to see so much. We prefer the smaller places and towns, always experiencing that people are people where ever we go. Genuine hospitality, amazing food, staggering architecture, views aso. All whilst staying off the "beaten track". Our plan this year is Norway-Denmark by ferry. Germany, Austria, Slovenia, Croatia, Serbia, Bulgaria, Turkey and finally our second home in Chios, Greece for 4-5 months. Can't wait to go. 😄

There was no rapidgate.

A 1000 km challenge is probably not that far off from that, as the test should asimptotically approach the number that your idea for testing would net. And you could actually derive that data from within the test, by removing the time and distance traveled from the first leg up to a point where the soc is the same as it will be reached on the last charge of the test.

@@Moody_Blues_ it would be comparable, but just as in the 1000km challenge, the soc to which the car gets charged would differ. This test would essentially present the cars average travel speed with charging on an infinetely long trip. The 1000km challenge otoh is arguably more relevant irl, as you generally start a road trip with a full battery and end with it somewhat empty. The presented test would essentially eliminate the advantage of a big battery for road trips in terms of range purely, and present the travel speeds after the first leg more accurately. If you are not sure on why that could be usefull, check out out of spec roadtrip comparison between lucid air and taycan, which clearly demonstrates that while lucid initially is faster due to its longer range, the taycan starts to gain on it after a few charges.

@@Moody_Blues_ Anyway, it would still be interesting 🙂

Yeah. 10 years of additional development so I kind of expect it to be better :D

Nothing because you need to sleep.

@@bjornnyland so if you travel onee day 1300km and second day next 1000km then throtling will not happen? On Lexus webpage there is mentioned DC Fast Charging is limited to two cycles of charging (Low → 80%) per day throughout the year. Two fatcharges per day is terryfying. But through a year would mean 730 fastcharges a year. Do the non fastcharging days accumulate so we can fastcharge more often after that ?

"Zeeker share same factory with volvo I would consider it" Why?

Zeekr is made by a different team of people than Volvo. Volvo and Polestar share a lot.

Never mind the crappy battery tech. You aren't concerned about the wheels falling off?

@@tristan351 No 😉

Probably because they bought some shitty cells and built that into the car so when you fast charge a lot, the cells individual SoC% will drift away from each other (because of different coulombic and Wh based efficiencies) and the BMS can't balance them fast enough so the BMS need time to rebalance the pack to avoid sharp SoC drops at low charge levels. Can't imagine any other reason.

Must be the advanced Toyota battery technology

all electric car have "punishment" point. U sound like a toyota hater which is not surprising from deranged EVangelists

bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

Apparently. 😅

No way to reset. Just wait.

@@bjornnyland I bet that there is a way. It might be as easy as changing time and date in car, maybe you need also somehow disable GPS (to prevent car from knowing time) and/or remove 12v connection (and BIOS battery if this car have something like that).

Very cold

Tehn you should get an ICE car. EVs are limited.

@@windsolarupnorth7084 "Tehn you should get an ICE car. EVs are limited." Limited in what way?

@@windsolarupnorth7084 I understand that you have to drive differently and you have to understand battery charging, but this Lexus sounds to complicated if you want to get decent range and charging speed. It just seems that Tesla, probably most other brands, is basically just plug in and go.

Most automakers currently lose money for each BEV they sell (except for Tesla and BYD). Whether GM, Ford, Hyundai, or most Chinese and European companies, everyone is losing money in their EV business, which is why many are pulling back from EVs and shifting towards hybrids. Toyota would also become less profitable if this model became popular. Toyota's main EV product will be introduced around 2027/2028 with their Solid-State Batteries. It's why you don't seem them marketing their EVs. The less they sell, the better for Toyota.

@@yo2trader539 are you a Toyota mouthpiece? Legend has it once a consumer has had a bad delt hand, they're gone forever.

@@yo2trader539 do you mean the solid state batteries they announced like 3 times in the past and then moved the date 5 years each time they missed their target?

They release these terrible cars so customers trade in for a hybrid.

bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

Toyota is certainly on the trajectory to bankruptcy.

Doing 10000km without stopping is stupid.

😂😂😂

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It's kind of pathetic to go back that far for this tired "joke."

It's a mediocre car.

Mom, can we have I-PACE? No, we have I-PACE at home. I-PACE at home:

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@benedictuswinner3995 I was just joking ...but that's what these points sound like 🤷‍♂️

at least they are not like hyundai which hides recalls or byd which spend enormous amount of time silencing critics

@@miraphycs7377 Toyota fighting against EV adoption for the entire industry by pushing against clean air regulations that would help our environment and the air we breathe just to benefit themselves is arguably worse than what you listed. And then having a giant BS marketing campaign about being “beyond zero” even though they aren’t even remotely close to being zero nevertheless “beyond zero” is borderline greenwashing. Also don’t forget Toyota has done similar things to what you’ve listed those other companies as doing, don’t forget they had an unintentional acceleration scandal that took over 80 people’s lives and they had the audacity to blame it on solely user error and badly installed floor mats when they had an accelerator pedal with a design flaw they knew about but was trying to hide from the public and government. They tried so hard to make the public believe it was the users fault and not their fault even though it was, in most cases, Toyotas fault. Thats scummy.

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bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

Nah. Not everyone needs a 80% charge in 15 or less minutes mr impatient 😂

Buying junk is when you have to see service on a not known unregular basis. For your newish car. This is not that. ;) Just a clarification of junk vs. quality. If you need longer range, or miss features pick another car. The factual quality? Unmatched.

@@atledavidsen4837 Factual quality will be determinded in the 2034 degradation tests when high mileage bZ4X, Solterra and RZ 450e cars start appearing. Until then we can't judge the quality.

@@szalaigabor1714 Factual quality is so much more than the battery. But you knew that. Besides, with the german Toyota Relax-program (that probably will find it's way to other countries too) in my case I would have to wait untill 2037. German warranty (with well stated terms) when servicing Toyota/Lexus at Toyota/Lexus dealerships anywhere in Europe is 15 (!) yrs./250.000 km. incl. battery. So tell me, why isn't other manufacturers that confident in their product? And what will this mean for deappriciation down the road? High mileage cars will surface long before btw. Plenty of bZ4X taxies here in Norway.

bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

@@atledavidsen4837 "Buying junk is when you have to see service on a not known unregular basis. For your newish car. This is not that. ;) Just a clarification of junk vs. quality." Incorrect. Junk is a relative term and we are talking about EVs now. "If you need longer range, or miss features pick another car. T"! If you want a great car you should definitively pick another car. "The factual quality? Unmatched." Nonsense.

bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

It's quite funny how good they are at failing.

bro clearly states that this is fine. Your deranged toyota hate is causing you to not see reality. U live in a la-la land

Toyota is thriving. Their EV strategy might be.. lacking, but it seems like they were right after all.

But still selling 11.2 Million cars 2023 🤣

Toyota making record sales/profits while sleeping. Imagine what they do when they're awake.

It's almost as if they're deliberately bad at it, or they do no benchmarking and actually believe it's a good product. I'm 120% sure that the RZ,the Bz4x and the UX ev will be very reliable and durable cars,but they are not good in the key area..being good ev . I should know,I have a polestar and a bz4x ..the polestar is lightyears ahead. Now if the Toyota's had 800v like the Koreans,but with Toyota reliability,and a proper route planning software with pre conditioning,and Tesla efficiency.. youd have the non plus ultra

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