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The Enterprise E is such a beautiful ship - pity we haven't seen more of her!

It’s one thing for the Borg to ignore Starfleet officers on their own cube in “Best of Both Worlds,” but here they’re the visiting team and are in the process of assimilating the _Enterprise._ They should be much more aggressive in this situation.

I was 5 when this movie came out. My parents wouldn't let me watch something like Jurassic Park because they thought it was too scary for a young child, but Papa Bear took me to see this opening night. I had nightmares for weeks after. Totally worth it! One of my favorite memories with my Dad from growing up.

Perhaps it's not that the Borg don't see them as a threat, but instead, the Borg recognize that they are such a significant threat that two drones wouldn't be enough to overwhelm them. So the Borg were thinking "do nothing; they'll ignore us if they don't think we're a threat."

These are AWESOME! I love watching movies be dissected and to see it happen with star trek is even better. Keep it up man!!

As to the Borg breathing noises, well, he was regenerating and that was snoring.

INCREDIBLE Catch!!! Looks ALMOST like it belonged there!!!

One detail I love about the scene with them heading to the hatch is how Data is easily one-handing the weapon whilst all the other crew members have to use both hands and even Picard seems to be struggling even with it 'at-ease' under his arm. Details for Data's android strength.

In Voyager, in the episode "Caretaker", when introducing Captain Janeway to Tom Paris, the credits say Federation Penal Colony, New Zealand 🇳🇿 😀, so maybe it was cloaked or their sensors just didn't see it for whatever reason

Tiny little note to add to one of your points. You do want to take engineering from as many points as possible, unless these points are directly across from each other. You don’t want to be firing at drones with your crew members directly behind them, and vice versa. IF you can help it. I’m told firefights are chaotic, and often less then ideal.

Some of you may remember Picard using a Thompson submachine gun which worked. Apparently, the lead bullets don't emit a frequency. Like every other movie or television show, once the threat is eliminated, the "effective" weapon is thrown/dropped on the floor.

One problem I have with the small teams is your idea about using the Jefferie's tubes. Those are very small and enclosed spaces making retreating harder so if the Borg detect anyone in them they can be captured fairly quickly and without an easy escape. The Borg can then use their assimilated knowledge to locate and take out the other teams if they have not reached their objectives. Two larger groups from the other decks could work however.

My guess for Picard not ducking into engineering was perhaps he saw the Borg activating in the background and he would’ve been alone in there.

The Borg invasion of the Enterprise is taught at the Academy. a cautionary tale.

The zoom reminds me of watching widescreen movies on an old tube tv

I'll say this I know Starfleet wouldn't like it but Melee weapons work they should have used the replicators to make pikes and other long reaching weapons I remember when I played STO as a klingon that was that tactic when you did omega task force missions just wipe out the bat'leth it's a good day to die

Regarding the door that lifted, rather than spliting open like the others. I always just assumed that it was more of an emergency bulkhead, used in a crisis to contain fire and damage. Very similar doors are used on ships to prevent the spread of fire or flooding in an emergency, and are only activated in an emergency, leaving the passageway normally open.

ALL THESE YEARS I thought it was the Borg saying lower your weapons lol That bothered me so much but now that I know it's Picard it's finally fixed haha

When I saw this movie for the first time I was terrified by it.

Should have replicated a Thompson submachine gun for each team. Would have cleared out all the Borg in ones sweep

The officer thrown to the floor isn't ignored, he's probably assimilated by the drone approaching from behind. Remember they have a collective consciousness. It would be like one of us using our hands to throw an opponent to the floor before ignoring with your hand and moving on to your feet to finish them off. Nasty.

Data doesnt break the manual release, it just fails to open the door. Normally the handle completes a circuit, that if broken causes the door to unlock & open. At this point however, the doors emergency override mechanics have already been bypassed by the borg & no longer function.

I find it strange that when Picard is escaping. in the tube at the end of this video. That the borg slow down and attempt to cut the tube hatch open. Instead of just either opening it with the handle or tearing it open. We know they have the strength to do either.

A lot of folks are about to be angry at you but more the fact that you're right and they didn't realize it. Tune in for next episode, how Khan Noonien Singh fits into this 😃

9:10 The Borg are entirely altered, no? Perhaps breathing was altered internally. What we hear as breathing sounds and talking is, after all, caused by everything WITHIN the lips, not without. Having mechanical upgrades internally would alter sound effects even if the outward appearance doesn't sync up. Basically; Darth Vader could have made the same noise with implants as he does with a mask.

The assimilated crewmen scene gave me plenty of nightmares when I was a kid. Star Trek made a scarier scene than most modern horror movies these days.

Data. The Borg felt save because they probably now have anti-Data measures in place. They are the Borg. They adapt.

I remember when I saw this movie a lot of people said it was just like watching another episode and didn't really feel like a movie at all.

The door that opens by sliding up. Is not a starfleet style door. Even the hatches in the tubes open horizontally ie pocket doors. This door makes no sense except it allows the sceen to happen that way.

While we're picking things apart, it's reveal, not revill. JK. Love the vid!

I wonder when the events of this film takes place in DS9's 5th season. Probably between *The Ascent* and *Rapture*

11:08 I found the way Data gets abducted as extremely odd. I know the Borg need him and he's relevant to the rest of the story but with his super-fast android-thinking noggin _why did Data not put up a fight when they were pulling him through?_ *At least put his arms up to brace against the door.* They could have added a few more seconds of the Borg pulling Data's arms off the door _and then_ get pulled through. Instead Data was like _I guess this is my life now_ and accepted his fate.

Star Trek writers and particularly science fiction movie or tv show writers in general are decidedly not West Point graduates. Not a lot of thought out strategy in most space battles. Generally it's head on attack and hope for the best.

So I'm a casual Star Trek fan at best, but why didn't Worf bring his massive sword? Doesn't he kill a Borg later with a smaller weapon?

Look with weapons that you can use in hand to combat with the Borg I guess starfleet didn’t want to ran the risk of the Borg getting to close to me that makes sense

6:01 I was under the impression that Lilly snuck away from the group without Crusher's awareness. Crusher couldn't have done anything about that.

So we just gonna ignore how long the legs are when the drop down?

I wonder if the Darth Vader breathing sound could have been something to do with ILM (Owned by George Lucas).

Clearly, it’s borg asthma

Star Trek, The series which is supposed to be sci fi but where technlogy seems to be pretty stagnant. Teactics don't change either and Star Fleet when they learn something are very quick to forget about it again.

Yeah 2 large groups meeting up in same place isnt a good tactic.. but this era of humans forgot centuries of warfare tactics we got to remember and they forgot that's only good if their playin the hit them from opposite directions and they mowing the enemy down game slowly crushing the Borg forces between them... so much for Picard's reenactments of ancient Human history sims... have them as an ancient warship Captain. About the different weapons with different groups.. that's not quite a writer error. Military ships which is what Enterprise is even in current trek verse here woulda had an armory with various weapon types too. Like real weapons problem is they got Vader sound effects but no lightsaber like weapons to take down enemies like Borg in close quarters.. man what Picard an his crew wouldnt have given here for a Force user specialized in saber combat here.. woulda just butchered the Borg there.

Whatever happened to finding a a medical solution to prevent assimilation guess after Scorpion it became not that important even though they were firmly still in Borg space need a uss WTF

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VOLLEY'S..I've been saying this for years.. Y don't they all fire at once,when they adapt to the guns firing pattern. Change frequency again, then everone choose a new Target and fire... say you have 10 crew members with u and on the same frequency.. u could knock 80 Borg out in 8 volleys of 10 people..after every volley change the frequency(just make sure everyone is on the same frequency )and fire again all at once.. and I say 8 shots bc the crew only got off 8 rounds off before the guns were useless.. I say make the best of the 8 shots. Just think if there are more people with u u could essentially wipe the Borg out in a few volleys,, I could be wrong I'm not much in the trek world.if your still reading this I hope I didn't ramble on and I made a little sense.. but when I first watch this movie back in the day I've always said it but I've never heard anyone say anything like it.. so thats my 2 cents.. injoy your day and thanks for reading........

Oh, so this is just a nerd rage video. Got it.

This is proving impossible to watch. I keep getting adverts every couple of minutes...

There are times i too envy data

Look at the phaser rifles everyone is carrying as they walk down the corridors. They have mostly silver square barrels. Now look as they all meet up outside Engineering, they now have rifles with all black rounded barrels. I think the square ones only show up here, whereas the rounded ones go on to DS9 and Voyager. Don’t know why they made two versions that were so similar (as well as a third EVA rifle) as they obviously couldn’t tell them apart when they were filming!

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Surprised no one has said anything about the drone with the tiny hand on the normal sized arm...what could that possibly be used for?

I always thought that the reason the manual release broke was because the borg disabled it by locking it in place, so when data pulled it tore off.

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I never understood why they didn’t just replicate projectile weapons.

Explosive shotgun slugs. Adapt to that!!

This and another scene in voyager has odd scenes where uninfected with borg probes people just follow the borg without resisting. Did that starfleet guy really think resistance was futile?

Why dont they use projectile weapons like bullets when fighting the borg? They obviously can repel energy weapons.

I'll throw this out there: Where does consensus put the "I-Mod" from "Star Trek: Voyager - Elite Force"? The gun designed specifically to fight the Borg, with an "infinite modulation" circuit to change the beams frequency modulation, thus preventing the Borg from ever adapting?

1:45 Ha, only noticed now after seeing this shot over and over that there’s totally a light with an orange gel right in frame.

That guy who escaped into the Jeffries tube before Picard probably got a stern talking to when this was all over. Yeah, I get the idea of running for your life but maybe you should notice when the captain of all people isn't behind you anymore.

The one part I didn’t like was the upbeat tone with Picard/Data’s team, to more intense when it swaps to a view of Worfs team...It made it feel to me that Picard/Data were on a “leisurely stroll” while Worf was prepped for combat...ideally to me it would have just kept it at the “combat music” once it swapped to it rather than going back and forth...

Forgive me if this is a stupid question I am just a casual fan of Trek. Why don't they start using melee weapons like swords and clubs?

I would love to know exactly how the borg adapt to a weapons "frequency". Once they adapt to the frequency you just change to a new one in a random pattern. They clearly can't adapt to all frequencies at the same time (otherwise your weapon would be useless before you fired it) So they should only be able to adapt to the frequency that was last used on them (maybe the last few if they have several layers of shields) Basically it should be impossible for the borg to render a weapon completely useless and it shouldn't take more than a shot to start hurting them again. Then again it's pretty clear that the writers don't actually know what frequency means.....

I'm not a film maker but "Dutch angle" sounds like some weird sex position used in 80's porn.

The security officer climbing the ladder I always interpreted as someone trying to flee, it's going to hell and he wants out (or the start of the crew falling back). The nearest borg pulls him out the way so he can give chase and ignores the guy he threw to the ground to save time so he can focus on other officers already up the ladder, some other drone will deal with him 10 seconds later.

The failed attack of deck 16 is just perfect to me it really show the true horror and power the Borg has and how once a Borg incursion starts it spreads like a plague and becomes very difficult to deal with

While I agree on coming in from multiple points I’d disagree on using the Jeffries tubes due to the close quarters and lack of movement.

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No more lore reloaded theme music?

Okay why dont they use squads of three with each member having a phaser running on a different Modulation so the Borg cant adapt to all of them?

Picard envies Data sometimes? Don't worry... Kurtzman got ya covered

How do Borg get to those higher alcoves? They ask their buddy in the lower alcove to give em a boost on their shoulders... imagine that visual!

6:26 Seriously is no one going to comment about Picards penis phaser rifle? It's a wonder he didn't smile and wink at the camera.

For 11 year old me in 1996, this counterattack sequence was pure nightmare fuel and I loved it. The ominous music and the setup in general as the two teams approached engineering is awesome and the crushing the Enterprise crew suffer really solidified the Borg as a literal unstoppable force.

11:21 - it's already been established in the show that blast doors drop from above. We've seen this at times when the warp core was close to breaching. Why this blast door would be down is unknown, but they do have them.

My favorite Star Trek movie! I love it...Darth Vader breathing lol. I always found that to be very odd. I'm guessing the reason why Picard decided not to have more than two team converging on the Borg is because 1. There wasn't a lot crew men aboard the Enterprise-E (crew was suppose to have 700+ crew men onboard), 2. Many do not have combat experience, 3. More than half of the crew is on Earth repairing the damage done by the Borg Sphere, or 4. They are fallback strike force in case they fail and it would be up to them to either save the ship or destroy it so Borg won't assimilate the Earth and the Alpha & Beta Quadrant. Or 5. The writers were rushing to release the film.

I always thought with the scene at 10:30 the second drone in the background was moving to assimilate the man who got thrown to the ground. EDIT: Ok I'm not the only one who noticed. Huzzah for nerd observations!

In regards to the Starfleet guy going up the ladder: Remember that the Borg are a collective. There was another Borg drone right where the officer was thrown to and then the camera follows the first Borg up, so we don't see what that other drone did. In all due likelyhood the two drones acted in concert, with the one in front throwing the Human to the one in the back, so it could go up the ladder as quickly as possible - for whatever reason it wanted to go up - while the one in the back would do the assimilation.

Anyone thought to replicate slug throwers? Get some AR-15's, a couple of P320's? Some Smith and Wesson's? They seem to be effective against the borg.

When that officer gets tossed off the ladder I always assumed that borg was leaving him for the drones you see in the background. Maybe that drone was tooled up for a task that makes him more optimized to be doing something else while other borg could assimilate that crewmen just as well.

I consider groups packed tight the "phalanx fallacy" that even though weapons and technology should tactics people in movies still use rather classical tactics.

I have to disagree small groups might have inititiated combat to soon and then they would be adapted before reaching engineering

Fun Fact: The blinking lights on all the Borg were programmed with morse code patterns spelling out the names of the various cast and crew as well as funny one liners. Data’s emotions: that’s a huge C plot to this movie and I love how they introduce it by “turning it off” and in effect making Data invulnerable to the Borg only later for the Queen to “properly stimulate him”. As a side note this whole thing could’ve been solved with Data anf thr following plan: 1. Picard orders Worf to give Data his Klingon neck chopper (seriously was Worf walking around with that thing on the defiant the whole time?!). 2. Picard then tells Data to both deactivate his emotion chip and look up Michael Myers before sending him to engineering alone after having replicated a mask. 3. Meanwhile, The Doctor, still active in sickbay has the computer create a holographic tommy gun with infinite ammo and turn off the safeties. 4. Picard then turns on all the holodeck sand opens them up to lure Borg drones into Worfs exercise program… Level 3 Sit back and let The synthetic take care of the cybernetic

jacobs ladder will be assimilated by the borg

7:31 New headcanon! Every visual quirk can now be explained by scared or stressed out crew fidgeting with holographic projectors and transporters :D

i absolutely love your movie breakdowns, you provide some interesting insights. Have you thought about making the one from Wrath of Khan?

_Enterprise_ absolutely should have had a whole set of protocols in place to deal with encounters with the Borg, first because Starfleet has been preparing for years to engage the Borg, but also because Sovereigns are one of the classes that Starfleet Engineering Corps designed and built specifically to combat the Borg and similar threats. So why _don't_ they have sensors, both internal and external because Borg can do EVA walks as easily as anyone with an environmental suit, to detect any and all Borg presence on, near, and aboard the ship? Why don't they have heavy bulkheads that they can use to seal off whole decks and sections of decks? Why don't they have protocols to slow or stop assimilation of crew and the ship's systems? Why not a localized EMP to shut off the Borgs' cybernetics, and maybe their nanites? And those are just the passive things that could be done from anywhere on the ship. To combat the Borg aboard the ship, and I'm sorry, but I disagree with scuttling an entire ship, especially a Sovereign, just because there's some Borg aboard it. Something small and old like a Miranda or Oberth, go nuts. I'd even be the one to detonate the charges. But _Enterprise_ is presumably the crew's only way back to their time, and I doubt they want to stay in the 21st century if they can help it. Or maybe they'd get picked up by Temporal Investigations (and by the way, where _are_ they?) I do agree that Picard should deploy several smaller teams of no more than 3, especially considering the general lack of space for manoeuvring in the corridors. Any more people in a team and you just start getting in each other's way. _STO_ has 5-man teams, however the space available for Kirk rolls and such is also much larger. Uncannily so. I also agree each team should come in from a different path so that if one assault fails, another might be able to push forward, or cause a distraction to take some of the pressure off. Equipment for anti-Borg combat is also something Starfleet should prepare: nanite-proof or nanite-resistant armour could be a good start, and yet we see in this movie that crew can be assimilated even while where an environmental suit. As outdated as they are, projectile weapons are also more effective against the Borg than energy weapons, seeing as how they ignore shields, and cannot be adapted to. The only issue might be how thick Borg armour is, but Starfleet could prepare AP rounds too. Then there are melee weapons that could also be effective, especially as they cannot run out of ammo: Bat'leths, Virpa, swords, throwing knives, even daggers for ultra close-range encounters. All security personnel, all crew in essential areas, and yes, the bridge crew, should be so equipped. Again, since _STO_ allows you to have two weapons equipped so you can switch at the push of a button, I keep one ranged weapon and one melee weapon. But say you don't have a Tommy gun or shotgun on-hand, nor a replicator to make one, together with the rounds for it. In _STO_ you can replicate and equip a frequency remodulator, which you can use whenever the Borg adapt to your energy weapon. True, it takes 4 seconds and you move slowly during this time, but it keeps you in the fight, and effective. Here, we see Picard is forced to order a retreat, and he lost some of his team in what was ultimately a wasted assault.

One wonders why Federation Starships designed to fight the Borg haven't trained and equipped their crews with melee weapons which would be very useful in situations in which the borg board ships.

I gotta say, from a nerd standpoint the Expanse is far superior to anything of the Roddenberry universe.

Just replicate a bunch of M-14's, high stopping power, high rate of fire, childishly simple to operate and maintain. And bullets kill Borg.

surprised you did not point out that Crusher did not manage to leave Deck 16 (as I assume by Worfs order), while the rest (mostly) came from the bridge, got some weapons, had a tactical briefing AND moved to Deck 16... so the question comes up: did they just hide because of the locking of 16 they could not leave via the Jefferies-tubes, why did they not try to use a turbolift shaft or use the entry points where security personell should be watching out that no Borg gets out

Compare Picard's act of leadership to the horrific Tribble Short Trek captain. It speaks volumes how different these eras are. To be fair though, Saru makes a creat commanding officer.

What's the difference between hand phasers and phaser rifles? Are the rifles just more powerful?