I had a tideace hardtail (same deal cheap Chinese carbon) that I rode hard and really put it through the ringer. It did amazing, 0 issues, sold it to a friend BC and it’s still going strong. Has several races under its belt. I also have a toseek Chinese carbon seatpost, saddle, stem, and bars on my fixed gear with 3000 miles on them and no sign of fatigue. Guess I trust the stuff, but I’m also a reckless guy at times hahaha

Looks like Scott Spark frame

I bought a mtb hardtail chinese carbon frame about 7 years ago. $399.00...Threw on all my Shimano components on it. Ride it regular in the santa monica mnts. I weigh 180 lbs. No problems. Frame is solid. 🦅

My first full suspension MTB was a carbon 29er frame from a Chinese company called Ican that came with a 2yr warranty & that only cost me 375 bucks that was about 5yrs ago & it was a nice looking frame. I built it up with all thee bells & whistles because the cost of the frame was so low & rode the👹HELL👹out of it & it came with a 2yr warranty. The quality of the frame was top notch & very professional & during that time I had no issues with the frame itself. But🤔 After about two years of riding it hard I found out that the kickback on the rear put a lot of stress on the Sram Xdrive and the end result was a broken Xdrive. I'm now riding a MEGATOWER that fits my riding style a lot more & which is tough as nails & I still have that Ican frame. I'm about to blow the dust off it a rebuild it as a lite xc bike & ride it on days when I'm not in the mood of sending it or go'n big. If you're looking into getting a low-cost Chinese carbon frame the only thing I can say is do your homework before you buy👍🏾

Great topic to tackle. We have all wondered.

Sweet looking frame. Quality control in consistency of the carbon in the frame would be my major concern, although most carbon frames from big manufacturers are made in China anyway. Next would be parts and availability. Do the swingarm pivots have bearings or bushings and can you order replacements? Last, does it come with a sheet telling you the sizes of parts you need, such as what bottom bracket fits or the correct length shock?

Great work, Thanks gene for the video

I've ridden a Velobuild carbon fiber hardtail for the last two years. Have yet to have issues and I ride it fairly hard.

Good stuff, Gene! That does look like nice, and having someone you as a reference, potential buyers can have more peace of mind on spending money on their products.

I hope you build this. I'd love your opinion on it after riding it

Interesting to follow this. I have looked at this and the içan p9 enduro frame. The frame you have is alittle dated in geometry, so will be interested to see how it fits and rides. A detailed build video would be nice to see if you run into any issues. Looking forward to the nxt video.🤙

I think this is a good discussion and love the comments. I'm a elite XC racer from Vancouver BC and I ride three chinese carbon frames. Two are dual suspension and one cross bike. One is five years old and one three. All are still in excellent condition and take a beating on the famous north shore. Now I can tell you a different story about another purchase I made last year. It was a chinese trail bike frame 150mm rear travel. Had fun on it until it broke in two pieces and I was lucky to walk away. The company was on Aliexpress claiming there the biggest carbon frame builders. So yes you have to be very careful of the company you choose. Might be a good idea to avoid BXT almost killed me. Ican trifox are good my bikes I ride now are Ican and are super solid. Cheers! Seth

Looks like some pretty nice frame

Hello regular guy mountain biking, question regarding rear shock, can this frame accommodate a rear shock with a piggyback??

I think alot of people will just want to be able to say, my bike is carbon fiber. But the way I jump (actually I guess it's more about the landing) I would be curious how it would hold up. I have several budget forks from China that I have put through the ringer, and they are still going strong, so who knows.

I've started the build and enjoying the process! The frame seems pretty nice and I can't wait to get it on the trails! If you're interesting in learning more about Trifox, use the link below. Plus, save some cash using the code RGMTB when checking out! trifoxbike.com/?ref=ra5c3s4fyghk

We are just used to paying premium then it feels to good to be true once we get a hand of the product sold from direct manufacturer lol

What size frame did you get and what size would you recommend for someone who is 6 foot 2 inches tall. Thanks

i dont even trust expensive carbon,much less cheap carbon. Having said that,I watch a channel where a guy has bought chinese wheels and frames before and he seems to like them just fine.He rides road so different beast all together..Nice looking frame though Gene.Look forward to the updates.

looks great. whats needed is a robust test, does it withstand jumps etc or does it break apart ?

😍😍

I'm really curious how this works out.

This is basically a copy of the Scott Spark.

Can u change the hardtrail bike frame into full suspension frame? So the frame just switch

U still have Trifox would you sell it ? i just broke my Bulls frame .......sad day

Looking to build an xs carbon f/s bike for my 10 year old who is only 57lbs she want to race x/c races

Over 3k for my Aurum HSP frame! Yea not cheap thats for sure!

clearly a scott spark

The geometry seems to be pretty XC. 68.5 head tube for example. I like this myself, but for those want slackness, this ain’t it. Looks fantastic though.

I trust it more now because this company is sending out there frames for review

What is the built kit going to be?

I ordered a carbon seatpost for 35 bucks, lets hope it doesn't break...

With the exception of a handful of carbon frame manufacturers all carbon frame are made “overseas”. Trek, Specialized, Salsa, Scott etc let’s be real. The difference we bu6 from a dealer we know and can get warranty.

There are about 4 or 5 guys on youtube that bought this frame but not one of them has a video of them riding it or posted a review of how it rides...weird!

This video isn't very useful without the build! Finding the right shock, hardware and knowing if it rides alright would be useful.

Have a shredder try it out at bike park then you will know

When I was a young kid in the mid to late 60’s every one would say “made in Japan” - “has to be low quality”. Well, China was that way a decade ago. Folks, just about every CF frame built is coming from China. That is where the experience and expertise is today - period. Who is leading in modern geometry and design - and who owns the most progressive molds- that’s a bit of a different story. But don’t be fooled , the Chinese make the world’s best CF frames because they make all of them! Finally I once saw a broken Santa Cruz frame, oh and a broken Trek frame, oh and a bunch of taco’d expensive wheels. So what!! That happens to every manufacturer’s products everyday. So don’t tell me you saw a busted Chinese cf frame once.

my favorite review of this frame is the guy with a broken leg and swing arm all in the same 2' step down....It is the swing arm that worries me on downhill tech.

By the time your done building it the cost come out pretty high.

Their dropper seat post isn't a dropper seat post.

Send it to Hambini to get the frame X-Ray’d. It will definitely reveal the truth.... it’s crap.

Be cool if it could get x-rayed

wonder how the flex stays will hold up over time, and yeah it does look like a scott spark. Personally I wouldn't buy a chinese frame, will support my own country as much as humanly possible, but thats my opinion

why wont you jump with it?

Hell no!

would I buy this? no. I will stick with aluminium for several reasons, but also I want modern geometry, sizing, which many brands don't offer, but they are slowly catching up, I see specialized has definitely started to get closer with their enduro bikes. I love my Nicolai/Geometron G1. but only the shock cost amore than the frame here, but it's quality, strong aluminium 7020 T6, the frame has features that only few others have. is it overkill for most trails, yes for sure, but I think it makes sense for me and for what I ride, like being able to replace the threads in bash guide mount, the brake mount. the cable routing is external, and done well, I am not a fan of internal routing, on my bike you can swap the rear brake in 4 minutes, at least that's what Paul Aston did on his. but that's not something I would do, but great for testing brakes I guess. I am not a fan of carbon not being possible to recycled, I have a Carbon handlebar on my bike, but that was only by chance, it was just what I could get at the time, fast, but it held up well, but I rarely hit my handlebars and if I do it's the bar end plug. But there are so many decent bikes now, and even at lower price there will be more bikes I am sure, and I am sure there will be less mistakes and more nice features, and better geometry. so far the cheapest hardtail frame I found is Ragley mmmbop, head angle is slack at 63 deg, but the chainstay stays the same, and no size big enough for me, like with most brands, I need the largest or a larger frame tan they have to offer. but I hope this changes, it probably will.

See, this video is moot without it built and tested. As it is, you made a video about another cheap carbon frame...everyone goes out the other end none the wiser than they came in.

Abused Loagai slaves can't make quality