I fell like Ageon put the song in the knife as a contingency plan incase there wasn’t a Targaryen left in Westeros I like to think Ageon was smart enough to know that a Targaryen always on the throne isn’t a guarantee

Lol just imagining Visenya cyberbullying Aegon over writing on paper is hilarious to me 😂 Seems like something she’d do. “Your guards are slow and stupid. Here, have a kingsguard you nerd.” “My kid might be passed out from the trial by combat but all your guys are dead, so there.” “C’mon Vhagar, let’s go torch some losers on our front lawn.”

By leaving so many plot threads unfinished for so long I’ve seen some of the best close reading and textual analysis come out of ASOIAF. Yourself included. George RR Martin is the best English teacher in history.

I believe the Starks were told what was happening as they're the Northern Kings and would have to be involved in the fight. This is why a Targaryen was supposed to lead the fight and the Starks should always hold Winterfell ("There must always be a Stark at Winterfell"). In the end, it was a Stark that used the Targaryen knife to end the threat.

It is very interesting idea if that the message of Valyrian is present on many of their items because it means you could have a whole load of hidden history for them which maybe found in the books coming.

On the one hand, I like the prophecy and all it entails across the Targaryen dynasty, but on the other I want to flip a table over because Arya killed the Night King. It feels like being trolled by D&D all over again because for now and possibly ever, theirs is the only way Game of Thrones ends. The books ending differently might soothe my need for a better ending, but it won't be the ending I and many other people *saw* unless/until they remake it. Glad George is working with HotD and that they're listening to him. We could've had that all along.

Interesting. So it's really probable that the knowledge of the prophecy is greatly lost with the Dance of Dragons, and more still after Baelon the Bookburner, but Aerys I (perhaps the guy more obsessed with books and knowledge of all aSoIaF) manages to rediscover it. And then it would be him that passes it to the other Targaryens. However, could it be that there would be important pieces still missing that Aerys never found? Perhaps that would be why he was so obsessed. After him, looks like all the Targs know of the prophecy, but not before. Could it be that if Aerys had all the pieces he would also choose to limit more who gets to know it? If so, it would be quite strange if Viserys said everything there is to it in the show.

Do you think Aemon told his daughter Rhaenys about prophecy? Since she was his heir (queen Alysenne called her "our queen to be"), and Aemon was told about prophecy from his father Jaehaerys... Could that be why she didn't protest much about Viserys succession? She doesn't want Targaryen civil war cause she knows that would be the end of Targaryens and subsequently the world. Would be funny if Daemon was the only one who didn't know XD

I've always wanted to see a series on Aegon's Conquest, but with the prominence they're now placing on his prophecy in the franchise it makes it even more intriguing for me. I didn't realize that 1899 was starting yet. I saw a promo for it months ago, so I'm glad you mentioned it in this video. Dark is one of my favorite TV shows of all time too.

Crusader Chris also mentioned that maybe Aenys told Alyssa when he was near death, who then told Jaehaerys. Jaehaerys would’ve been too young to understand if Aenys or Aegon the Uncrowned told him. This is of course assuming that Maegor didn’t know, and if he did, not sure he’d tell anyone.

Rhaena the icon!!! I do think it was her who passed down the knowledge, especially since she frequently reminds Jaehaerys she is the oldest and should have been the heir- might be a nod to Aenys telling her. Plus Dreamfyre is mommy to Dany's dragons and so many of the last generation of the dragons, and what do we need the dragons for? the prophecy! power to westerosi lesbians

Entirely from costume Great commentary on the rune blades and Elric!! Thanks David!

The Knifey-Spooney reference just makes me feel old because my first thought was “Will the kids even get the reference” 😂

Yes! Every time someone mentioned about the difficulty of this knowledge being passed down because of Maegor, I've been like: RHAENA! RHAENA! RHAENA! During the weeks of the season's runtime I've thought about this way: Aegon, Aenys, Rhaena, Jaehaerys, Viserys and Rhaenyra. But that's a simple explanation. I never really thought about the possibility of more than one per generation learning about this, but of course they would! It's the end of the world of men we're talking about here! Thank you for these two videos! They have given a greater input in my thoughts about this! And btw, I think I sort of predicted that you would do videos about this very topic, since I could not hold myself from commenting about this stuff after watching the video about Daemon's song! (I guess I'm a bit of a dreamer myself! XD) If I've known beforehand I would have waited, but oh well... Done is done, I guess. But to summarize, it mostly was about the dreamers and their dragons outside of the prophecy thing! I think both Balerion and Dreamfyre prefer to bound with dragon dreamers, and that they share a special bound, that maybe the older of them two is the younger ones father or grandfather by blood lineage, and that it later leads to Daenerys's dragons, especially Drogon! And that he's the Balerion come again as well as Dany could be Daenys the Dreamer come again, since I think Daenys was the first rider to Balerion! Like Daenys, Daenerys is east when she should go west! Also, their names sound almost the same! Another thing I like to add, is the thought about Jaehaerys and Alysannes first kids and how they play sort of a part of ASOIAF! Their three first children were named Aegon, Daenerys and Aemon! Aegon died, and before Daenerys passed away as well she was the heir, although Jaehaerys rather liked the thought about Aemon being the heir which Alysanne didn't agree on since the girl was older. He did say however that she would be queen with her brother as king, and that they would rule together. But that was not to be. However, what if Jaehaerys saw a glimpse of the future, or maybe it was something Rhaena shared with him that made him think that an Aemon and Daenerys would rule together and uniting the realm once the drak times to come? And maybe an Aegon too will be in the mix? I'm one of those who thinks Jon Snow's real name is Aemon, and Aegon could be Young Griff, and Daenerys is well: Daenerys! This makes me think that Aegon/fAegon will die before the battle against the second coming of the long night! And that Daenerys could die in the battle, and if not, she would maybe die of something she gets sick off after the fact and later dies, leaving Jon/Aemon to become king in the end? Maybe he marries a Baratheon? Or will the connection of a Baratheon meeting a Targaryen be in form of Shireen's sacrifice somehow having to do with Jon's resurrection? I don't really know, but that's my thoughts at least right now! I'm quite well read when it comes to Fire and Blood and the main series, but not as much of what happens between, so it was really nice to watch the first video you did! Maybe I should revisit those chapters in AWOIAF and the Dunk and Egg stories, and maybe I can put together my own idea of what happened with Aegon the Conqueror's dream, among with other things! Love your content very much! There are so many things that align with my thoughts! Thank you! You're my favorite ASOIAF KZfaqr!

If you didn't know, the Valyrian for 'song of ice and fire' is, roughly, "vāedar esh suvion sesīr perzys"

Yeah, I always thought Tohren bent the knee a little too quickly. I think Aegon definitely told him about the prophecy-and maybe Tohren had his own too!

Good morning! Jaehaerys would have told him once he became the heir? That’s what I think.

I started watching Dark recently and could not be more happy that you recommended it! Very excited for 1899

The idea of a lost civilisation that only wrote on weapons, and by reading the inscriptions on the scattered blades to get its history is honestly an awesome idea.

I've been looking forward to 1899. Dark was a big obsession for me too.

It would be so much fun to sit down and talk to Viserys about Valyrian lore

Little off topic but may I just say your art choices are always lovely, my man. **chef's kiss**

I wonder why Viserys didn't tell Daemon about the prophecy though. Sure thematically it makes sense because it shows how Viserys didn't consider Daemon his true heir. But it seems like a illogical move, what if Viserys died suddenly before telling Rhaenyra, then that very important knowledge would be lost (at least for a time), and he must have been acutely aware of heirs/Kings suddenly dying because of recent family history. It would make sense that everyone in the royal family knew. Is there then something about Maegor knowing and thus feeling justified to make sure there was a "strong" Targaryen on the throne, that could have led to the secrecy?

Appreciate the shout-out to Australia's true national sport.

You keep lining 'em up, Sir- we'll keep slamming them down :) Thanks and SKÅL !

as always, love your content

Amazing video as always ❤️🐉👑

Thanks for all your content. Always a good day when we get more LML. ❤️

Love to see it whenever one of your vids pops up

Hey, David. Great video as always. As I was reading fire and blood I was sure that Aegon I told Stark about his dream. Makes total sense and I am sure you will explore everything in your next video. In another note, is there any chance you can make a video explaining how to read Elric books and where to start?

Omg! I have to work but just came across this new video of LML!

Solid detective work. Great video DL.

As always, nice David.

“This is a Valyrian band, but THIS is a Valyrian STEEL band” 😂😂😂

Good one

Wouldn't it be funny if Aegon the conq got dementia and demanded all of his valyrian possessions be inscribed with these runes. Then his sister wife's have to heat up all the blades and keep him on task. Then he keeps losing the important blades so he demands every normal blade to be melted into the iron throne but it has to be explained as this symbol of power instead of a solution for his dementia. Dementia is not funny at all but I think the scenario is quite comical.

Bruh, that Simpsons in Australia reference hahaha. Live here so such a funny reference. Can confirm they sound like that and its most favourite game

Asking the questions we all have been thinking about, way to go LML! :D

There should be a series on Aegons conquest!!

Don't ever apologize for valaryan band jokes, please. I giggled a bit.

Rhaena = Reyna (my last name) 8:41 Who will snag Dark Sister from Blood Raven's cave?

With this fantastic content, my only wish now is to watch a series about Aegon's Conquest (maybe HOTD will become an anthology later?). Watching it and getting the full story watching Balerion, Vhagar, Meraxes and the original trio... I may rest in peace.🐲

Does the three-eyed crow "Bloodraven" know about this prophecy? It would be interesting if Dark Sister has these glyphs as well. I know there is Cats Paw already but that is too far away from Bran right now.

Great stuff as usual Mr Lightbringer! You mentioned in one of your HotD dragon videos about possibly doing a video on Rhaena Targaryen. Any chance that could happen in the near future?

Top of the Morning!

Crown looks damn good on Rhaena

This may have been your best intro ever😂

nice

I quote knifey spoony all the time. Amazing!

I wish I could afford to pay your rent and food expenses so u can upload videos more often. As a single nerd mom I live for these. Regards from the Mexico borderlands.

I do believe it through dreams and stories because Targaryen is always read books

LOL coming out strong with the jokes LML thanks for making my morning

I've heard that Jaehaerys and Alysanne were staying in Dragonstone with Visenya herself when Maegor was king. So maybe Visenya told them about the prophecy, since she clearly knew. I just wish Viserys had told Rhaenyra (us) that he'd heard it from Jaehaerys himself, as that is the most likely scenario, but it'd have been easy and very cool to have him mention where he heard it from.

Slight tangent on the weapons (and ...horns) with glyphs/runes on them, there's 2 others in the story I think fly under the radar but are worth keeping an eye on. The red bronze ceremonial dagger Mirri Maz Duur uses. It's not the ceremonial design of it I think people miss. It's that it shows up again in Volantis in the Merchant's House on the table of gifts for the widow, right before Penny attacks Tyrion. The 2nd weapon is Ilyn Payne's 3rd sword which is covered in oddly magic related details. Not only is the blade covered in runes but It's pommel is a dragonglass skull with rubies for eyes. I'm not sure I trust that...silent murderer whose described as looking like the medieval representation of the grim reaper, huh that could be noteworthy also 🤔

hell yea that shirt is fire 🔥

Ooh I just started watching 1899 I was syked when I saw that the creators of Dark made it!

Gods, I can't believe "Bart vs. Australia" is almost 30 years old 🔪🥄

Great video. Re: 1899 - Which Thursday?

New content?! Alright, Alright, Alright!!

I'm willing to bet it gets passed on from Rhaenyra to Alicent to Aegon III, at least in the show. Rhaenyra knows it, asks Alicent why she crowned Aegon II when King's Landing is taken, the truth of Viserys' last words come out, Aegon III becomes King, and Alicent is held prisoner until her death. Or being lost until Bloodraven finds out about it. Hey, what if Aegon IV knew about it, and told Daemon, which led to the Blackfyre Rebellions?

Of course, the one ring also had fire activated runes.

I wish we could get the first men Prequel, then it leads up to Aegon conquest

"This is a valyrian steel band" I was expecting some music after that comment :)

I wouldn’t be surprised if there was magic sign were Involved with writing these Scriptures on swords and scrolls 😊

Yay!

I wonder if the secret ever got passed down to Light Skinned Larry Targaryen or Rick James Targaryen

QUEEN Rhaenys, thank you

The top 5 reasons are top 😄

Baelor the BUZZKILL

Do you think they could retcon the night king death and keep prophecy still in place when john snow show comes around ? Its little bit weird I found that house of dragon is showing the prophecy and now that dunk and egg is been aired which directly involves the prophecy as well.

Visenya seemed like the type to make fun of her little brother for writing stuff down. She seems like she would call Aegon a dork, a nerd, a geek, a poindexter among other hurtful names. Aegon’s other wife would have never said any of those mean hurtful things but Maegors mom? She’s a different type of person.

So what i would like to know is why they out that on the knife but when we see it in GOT you don't see that shit. I know they wanted to be different but I'd like to know if it got wore off over the years? Or is the catspaw in GOT is a replica

Damnit I just woke up I’m 3 hours late

Maegor the Wise did NOT start any wars. He defended his ungrateful family from being slaughtered by religious zealots.

@lml A circuit recently connected in my brain. In the book Addam & Alyn are highly implied to be Corlys’, but we also know that Valaryons are not, & never were dragon riders. Do you have an answer for this, other than the obvious & trite. It feels like there’s something there

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Always glad to hear the word >chode< in a sentence :D and sure I won't be one - but if we still talk Show (which I abandoned at s5 but still know what happened) - Arya being The One remains nonsensical smh

What animal is the horn from? Dragon maybe?

The only problem with the whole "prophecy" thing is, that, the last 4 seasons of GoT are still considered to be cannon. I think that silently, the current show runners, are trying to reference the (soon to be released?) book and NOT the show. At least I that is my hope...

Makes sense that a people renown for incinerating anything and anyone in their way with dragon fire would record information that they say as important on something fire-proof... There were probably Valyrian steel calendars with partner's birthdays and anniversaries on it before the Doom.

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"All paper in Valyria was made of Valyrian steel" 😂... imagine finding an ancient Valyrian artifact covered in runes, and you spend time trying to figure out what it says, only to find it's just someone's discarded shopping list!

Knifey-Spooney!

Rune meteors!!!

Yo, late ass comment, but I bet the targaryens rediscovered the legend when one of them had the dagger reworked or repaired and the blade was heated

In the warhammer fantasy universe, the dwarfs judge humans as idiotic because they entrust their knowledge to parchment and paper. Things that decay, rather then "proper" "respectable" materials for knowledge storage like stone or metal. So maybe banging it on a blade wasn't so stupid after all.

😮 See you at 1899!

Damon doesnt seem to know about the profecy. Isn't that odd?

There was something written on Ice! Something important! But we'll never know.

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Stargaryen or Tarstark?

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No balerion don't eat that paper Damn visenya making fun of nerds

That's alot of assumptions to make especially when we all heard the king tell his daughter that the 'Prophecy' is passed from _heir to heir_ *AND* we now know he didn't tell Daemon.

Considering no targaryen peacefully held the realm, a dream of a the entirety of westeros gathered as one following one leader againts a true would be a promising vision if you ask me.

I don't get why they'd keep it a secret. It's not like prophecies are unknown in the world. It seems more like everyone except the Faith of the Seven, Drowned God, and Old Gods have them.

Also, he didn't trust the bards to sing the prophecy because all bards are spoony. Everyone knows that.

Rhaena was Jahaerys sister, not aunt.

lmao. "Chode".

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