Thanks for the kind words. It does take a lot of time and research to build these videos with new tech info. the viewership is niche and consists of old schoolers and people who appreciate this type of content, but that’s the channels aim too: instead of a viral jingo tug of war, Tripaccino rather wants to present auto literacy to those who accept it. Thanks 🙏 for noticing and commenting on that perspective. The new Gurkha will take time. Expect May Jun for 3D and Festival for 5D.

@@tripaccino i mean the audience in Haryana, Punjab and Delhi-NCR is very upset there was no actual tug of war in the bonus section !! What is this click bait stuff man ! 🤣🤣. Not one jeep toppled or got stuck in the snow in -27 degrees when the freezing point of diesel is -9.7 degrees. I was in goa last weekend and wanted to contact you but unfortunately was very short on time. Next time for sure and see your amazing Truck in person.

Hi. Very true u said. I checked with the only dealer in Mumbai who I am in touch. He said they have no official info from the company but yes, a new engine and 18 inch wheels will be there. Official details will be revealed on 30th April and new roll outs post 15th May.

@@kundansingh914 Goa ? Isn't he based in Andaman?

@@durgeshvengsarkar7077 He has moved to Goa due to his job.

All the best for your purchase !

Thanks for the generous compliments. Durgesh. Thanks for your support to the tripaccino community

Thanks: that’s too kind Manish !

Grateful 😇

Thanks Karthik ! This is such encouraging words. Made my day. Thanks a lot. Please try to overcome the inertia and learn driving. It’s a life skill and opens doors to many opportunities and hobbies. Wishing you the best ! Thanks for sharing 🤲🏻🤝

@tripaccino yes will enroll into driving classes at the earliest 🙂

@@karthiknags3423 all the best nag! see you on the road sometime!

Your appreciation and feedback keeps me going ! Thanks a lot brother for taking time and leaving a comment

The Gurkha has stopped the production of this model. The new model may hit the market next month. There is no point of this comparison at the moment.

@@ASWINALORA you’re right brother. Btw our channel was the FIRST to talk in detail about the new model back in 2022 kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9JjlsZqzLm0iXU.html We also predicted that production will throttle because of BS6.2 and what’s new in the upcoming model. So we are well aware of the refresh. 🤵‍♂️Here , we are trying to understand the mechanical fundamentals - those are timeless, no? 👨🏼‍🚀 Don’t worry we will do one with the G32 after the new one is launched also 🤓cheers

Thanks for the detailed comment. I myself sailed the Research Scholar boat few years ago during my doctorate days and I can understand your passion for technical content. Wishing you the best and please share the videos with other research scholars.

Thanks 🙏

As soon as possible

Thanks doc. 🤠Your breed of the technically curious are my main target audience. Glad you liked it. ! 🫡 ‘Low performing big bore diesels are fun in their own way’ .In their ‘own’ way. Yes. Lend me your ears for a detailed tech breakdown . I know you’ll enjoy it 🤓. First let us clear out the air ⚙️tripaccino’s 2.2 recommendation is not coming from a jingoistic paper tiger camp which simply mongers more digits to claim pointless supremacy against rivals. (Baap Kaun hai brigade) I am totally with you on that one doc. , and it’s annoying how people who have never driven either - are quick to diss the Gurkha just declaring it’s ‘underpowered’. But our contentment with the 2.6 is short lived. Read on: 😃 As we discuss in the video, the Force staple FM2.6CR is ageing and long in tooth, but it works. Low end grunters like 616 are enjoyable in certain applications when one’s not in a hurry. Best for people movers and commercial haulers. The OM616 is sufficient for ‘most’ things, ambling up hill roads in a relaxed and comfortable manner, like you use it for, is one of them. But there are a host of other ‘normal’ applications where the present mech suite finds itself wanting. I have driven the Xtreme on road and off-road and there’s a reason I miss its suite. ( in terms of brutal power burst I miss the BS3 even more but that’s going too far back . That bs3 could burst out of a standstill and take inclines like nothing else can) The 2.2 mHawk of the Thar and the FM2.2CR (OM 611) of the Gurkha are not the same in behaviour. At this point I’m tempted to make another video building up the engine curves of the 611 compared to present duet. The lower end of the 611 is as torquey as the 616. It additionally climbs to 1600 revs to give a healthy mid range and a robust top (for diesel standards). It holds its torque flats wider and is smooth surge of power in mid range where most normal driving happens on trails and flats and sands. If we follow the drive train animation in the video , today’s Gurkha is limited in torque absorption right out of the engine at the Gearbox level itself. The G28 has a cut off on the torque it can handle. The G32 expands this band significantly. The suite of the Xtreme put out a mouth watering FDR thanks to better ratios at each stage including lower gears in transfer case and even diff on axles, which made the truck so versatile over a wide range of applications on and Offroad. Forget the competitions and off-road events ( which btw should be one of the strong use cases for a purpose built offroader, but niche) Even in normal trails and forests I have tried to keep up with the Xtreme and there are many places , where momentum is key to cross certain obstacles , the Xtreme will chug through, while the Bs6 has to go technical . Normal hill driving is ok, but if you’re taking steep slippery inclines on a fully loaded camping 🏕️rig, you will have to carry speeds at higher gears. We are no more in the comfort zone of 1st+4x4Low in these scenarios and I have missed the 611 and it’s drivetrain sorely here. The larger turbo reduces power gap between gear changes and makes dollops of torque available just when you need it. The small turbo will punch lower but at these higher revs is simply choking the train. The cushion that healthier FDR offers is also good for upsized tires which once you try in the Bs6 you will realise that torque at wheels gets shaved off and if you go a bit optimistically high on tire dia, suddenly you’re not smiling up those slopes anymore. So the 2.6 is good enough for many, but if you want to build out the best of version of itself then you need what the Xtreme had up its sleeve. And no - Thar cannot do that.😺 Hope I engaged you 😊

Yes, correct. Ratings would change Because of 1. New engine tune 2.New gear box (Xtreme gearbox as I have suggested in this video has been accepted by Force for the new Gurkha) So it will give good low end grunt and good cruise in high gears. The turbo still is the weak link imho and juices out as much as it can but the weight needs to be respected still. Bigger tires will also change gearing ratio and torque at wheel 🛞 as explained in the video. Need to just replace the values from the new owners manual

Thanks , sadly people who see the value in well researched content, like yourself are in the minority 🤠 let’s build this together 🤝🤟🏻

I was afraid length might get dragging, but couldn’t convey in depth if I chop down to shorten. So glad you didn’t find it drag !

Thanks for finding value in this. Please share it with your friends!

Hi ...can you reply to my query pls

My pleasure! Spread the word about the channel please

So nice of you

Tug of war !!! Baap Kaun hai ?

Thank you! Cheers!

Thanks. Please share in your WhatsApp groups to benefit other 4!wd folks

Glad it helped. Do watch my other Gurkha specials !

@@tripaccino have seen all the videos, have been watching them before my Gurkha came in Jan. I too am a member of the pan India BS6 Gurkha group :)

Ah! Thanks then 👍🙏😺

So nice of you

As an honest advise, There are better cars for that purpose

Thank you 🙂

Yes, I am.

Check out our community updates for more interesting auto content and info!

Thanks do share it with all your friends !

Sure will put up something soon 🔜

As predicted by our channel in 2022 😊

Thanks for the kind words. Im actually working on a full blown suspension upgrade for the Gurkha. So when I do the debrief on that , Ill contrast how it compares to stock Thar and modified Thar suspension and Jimny.

Thanks again! I was waiting for your comment Tarun. How come you were missing in my first batch of viewers I was wondering 💭 hope all is well with the family and health now 🙏

Yea I miss the Xtreme too. FM had to discontinue because of very less demand for a hard core solid axle based off-road specific truck. I wish they had brought it back. 😊would have picked it up without a blink. Updating the 2.2 140would have been expensive additionally as the 2.6 is staple across the board, cost which they would have avoided. Let’s see the new tune in Bs6.2

Thanks for following me on both plat forms .Keeps-me charged to produce more quality content

@@tripaccino something struck me and I can't wrap my mind around it. Please, accept my apologies in advance, because this would likely sound dumb... The Gurkha is ~390 kgs heavier (figures from Autocar India) than the Thar and that leads to the advantage in a hypothetical tug of war scenario as you explain. But how does the torque:weight not influence the outcome, provided all other factors remain same? I mean both cars need to first be able to move itself from standstill before overcoming the opposing force, and the Gurkha is at a disadvantage there (paradoxically because of it's greater weight), no? Not sure if I'm making any sense...

@@midlife-middling Thanks for the question. I expected this clarification and hoped to clear it in comments because it would clutter if I had explained in video and make it too boring. Outline: None of the factor I mentioned , can work independently so for ease of understanding I had simply de linked them in order of priority. And please do note the disclaimer I have deliberately put in :- The engine power torque and how it is put down on ground is important. Case 1: If the weight difference is large. 1. Take the heavy rock example. Why does the rock have to move itself? With a small engine if it even manages to move itself a bit, the Thar is going to find it further more difficult as opposite force is now weight, friction and small engine thrust of the rock. 400 kgs is kerb weight difference. It is 20% of the vehicle weight! not small difference. Also it Doesn't include accessories and mods which will weigh up the vehicle heavily. Let's assume next case and simplify. 2. If the weight difference is comparable, then the traction on wheels will play a part and weight distribution will come into play. Gurkha will be rear heavy, and also aid its traction. 3.If you're looking for physics - then opposing force is friction * Opponent weight. The inertial force is Self Mass x acceleration.This acceleration would depend on the engine definitely. But if your self mass is less then your product is less and hence force is less. So you’re making lesser force to propel against opponent in that sense. For ease of understanding we are splitting these two physics seperately for ease of understanding - in nature all are happenign parralllely.! Hope i have not confused you more. Simply one line: If two gurkha's one fitted with mHawk and one fitted with FM2.6CR, then engine and power delivery would come into play. And the mHawk would win! Until then, weight on the driven wheels rules :D

@@tripaccino Thank you immensely for taking the time and effort to reply. My mind's at rest now, I do understand it so much better! You're the physics teacher, so many of us never had 🙂

Thanks and please do feel free to ask anything . I’m glad you asked this . I was hoping someone would . Because I wanted to explain this particular aspect. It’s like looking at the same scene through two windows - One is Newton’s second law and other is third law. Both cannot be used together to understand same scene. Scene is happening but you can look through only one window 🪟at a time: Fun fact: gurkha weight distribution is Front 1270 kg Rear 1240 kg

Thanks . You’re far too kind

I wish they could too. But the market dictates makers. The actual demand for a purely offroad based setup like the Xtreme (Solid Front Axles and factory body lift etc) is very miniscule for them to take the effort to homologate it for BS6. The 'less extreme' explorer with good offroad kit which would satisfy wider audience was instead made into BS6. The engine in Explorer 2.6 was also staple across the board including the vans so one time effort. The 2.2 was unique to the Xtreme and the Force One before it.

@@tripaccino true.. Thank you so much

Thanks share with friends !

@@tripaccino Already did ;)

Thanks for watching!

Thx 🙏

Thanks

Hang in there. Keep checking for symptoms. Let the vehicle tell you what’s wrong . Once you cross the hump, the platform is a delight to build upon

Thanks a lot for these encouraging comments!

The gurkha is very good if you’re hands on and expect no creature comforts. It’s an overkill for mild roading and just daily driving. Would advise to ReConsider your priorities based on your needs 👌all the best

@@tripaccino Thank You for your time and helping me with my doubt!! Will really reconsider and give it a thhought!!

The present configuration has limitations of remap. The components can only absorb so much torque as per rating, 1. Turbo is tiny presently - very small compared to older Gurkha - so starved of kick . 2. G28 has torque limitation. With power up torque will also boost which G28 cannot absorb 3. The ECU of this gurkha cannot be read right now. Presently no protocols exist for proper remap of this version ECU. (Delphi)So once those are l released it would be better to attempt proper re maps. The present Diesel Tronic option is only a single channel fuel regulator and Wolf has benched the ECU. Personally wouldn’t go for either . Will wait for protocols to be available for proper remap.

Test drive. Thar. Gurkha. Jimny. Get the Gurkha if youre convinced after that. Tripaccino will always be there to help you upgrade. Check out my Mods video for an idea of what all can be done! Cheers

Great 👍 thanks nanba🙏 Tamil la video pannanum Na sollunga pannalam🤝

@@tripaccino brother English is more better. For me. I don't know how many people will see if it is in Tamil. But I would say better do it in both Tamil and English.

THANKS.! Please share with your friends

And thank you for your ultimate videos content and efforts..

5 door might come by festive season 23 only

Yes it does help to proactively engage before attempting obstacle. In thar it’s reactive engagement after stuck

First 3 door will come soon Then 4 door.

Ah! Rogerab. Im aware of these and have run them in their early days on a sedan. These are also band aid patch work temporary solution. They add a polyurethane or foam buffer and increase ride height by extending spring length. I would suggest please watch my strut top hat spacer review video to understand pros and cons of such temporary mods to suspension. This plays with the coil just like top hats play with struts. I have spoken about spring buffeers as well in that IIRC. If you want a suspension upgrade I would suggest a full swap with Dr Nano or some kit like that which will be the full term soulution. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/raqJotmIy9SxYYE.html

@tripaccino Got your point. Let me watch that video and get back, if any questions at all. Thank you so much for finding time to reply to my query. Cheers 🍻

Anytime brother: my pleasure

@tripaccino I just finished the video you suggested. I had infact seen the video earlier but couldn't correlate then which I was able to do this time. So no Rogerabs for now. I will consider getting the struts changed in future without increasing the height of course. I'm never keen on increasing the height of the SUV or changing the tyre profile drastically because it just damages the essentials in the underside of the vehicle and reduces the off-road performance in some cases. Thanks a ton!!!

Thanks for watching that. It was one of my most knowledge sharing videos , but surprisingly didn’t find as many takers as I expected. 😈Maybe a bit long and draggy for today’s short attention span. 🤔

True that

Made in 2022 itself 👌kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9JjlsZqzLm0iXU.html First channel to bring the updates to you 🙏

Thanks for your viewership. Please take KZfaqrs reviews and opinion of their vehicle with a pinch of salt. It’s very subjective and anecdotal. Not correct to generalise the whole product line based on one ☝️ review. And be advised that ‘views’ and ‘subs’ skyrocket for any negative connotation or bash video whereas truths fetch you fewer eyeballs. So approach motivation of tubers (including myself ) from that perspective. listen to my narration clearly in this video and I do repeatedly state that there are definite QC issues and the owner cannot expect fill it shut it forget it experience. It demands a lot of involvement. There are teething issues and components randomly busting which the company is fixing and rectifying in subsequent batches but it’s not a matured evolved product as I brought out. Get ready to get your hands dirty . Service Center sin your city if it’s good it’s great , if it’s not it’s a miss. There is no consistency in quality of work and knowledge in service Center a across country, all of them are largely positive attitude and want to help though. Plastic quality is bad (compared to what? You may want to ask him ) Fact is that frankly The interior trim and plastics are at par with Trax because it’s same dash and parts - it’s commercial , industrial and nothing fancy. It’s easy to live with and wipe and fix. It will last. It’s not the soft touch dashboards that people are looking for because this is not that kind of a car. These are all superficial. There are better cars who would excel in this department. It’s got a lot of jugaad fixes and rough edges which do bother . But if you want a robust platform to build on. This Chassis is CNC and super stiff. Three part CNC - front axle , transfer case and rear axle bearing part chassis. Bullet proof welded with overlap . Probably strongest among Passenger cars I’ve seen. The insulation is top notch .The build quality of the chassis is extremely good and a blank canvas for us to build on. Mileage - 2.5 ton 2.6 litre diesel running a low end torquey 5 speed with non existent top end. I would be surprised if it returned good mileage. Should you ? - You should consider a gurkha only if you know what you’re getting into and have the Will to work with its few shortcomings . If you can do that you can build out a product slowly over the years that can outgun much more expensive cars: it’s a blank canvas . Can you paint?

@@tripaccino is shut it and forget too much to ask for? As a modern product atleast it should be a hassle free experience right? phase 2 gurkhas are yet to come so let's wait and see the improvements and also it's going to more expensive than the phase 1 models.

Please don’t get me wrong. I’m not defending the gurkha. I am merely stating that it’s not shut it forget it. Whether it’s worth the effort is the individuals choice . There are options out there for all of us. We need to choose our battles accordingly. Don’t get me started on phase 2 Gurkhas 😹my advise would be to wait for teething issues with the new inclusions iron out before picking one hot out of the even.

I will review only when I have driven it and Gained some experience with it. Thanks for the suggestion will surely do after I get my hands on it 🙏

Displacement is the volume of engine. Pull power is torque. We have shown how gurkha hits peak torque earlier. We have explained advantage of both in gurkha combined with tractor like gear ratios which all manifest as the great low end puller it is. Your observations are correct as we have noted in this narration - ‘the gurkha will slowly climb to 100 and stay there all day like a freight train thanks to its large displacement 2.6’

@@tripaccino Thanks. I forgot to thanks you for creating a lovely informative vlog, which was unbiased and completely stats on paper kind of thing.

Nice catch: I’ll vote for an OG bolero anyday 🙏

Sorry brother. could you please explain. Didn’t get you. Auto box where ?

@@tripaccino instead of a manual gear box!

@@brunoterlingen2203 that part I got. Which truck are you talking about. Thar has an automatic box already as option. You suggest Gurkha to also have a TC?

Power zyada aayega. Aur bhi kuch upgrades hai. Meri 2023 wali gurkha ki video Dekhiye. Usme Bata ya Maine.

Tq sir

Check my video I posted last December on that kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9JjlsZqzLm0iXU.html all upgrades included 🤝

Thanks nanba

Bro nanum gurkha vangalamnu iruka but upcoming bs6.2 vangalama illa ippo already irukura model vangalama unga help vendum nandri sago❤

@@rc5147 ippo 6.0 model stock illa sago, production stop aidichu . Enna updates Varumnu oru video Namma channel la irukku. Adha paarunga. Launch pudhu 6.2 May June aidum. Pudhu features settle aaga few months time kudakkanum. So first batch vaanga vendam. Three months ku apparum issues Elam solve pannadhukku apparum vaanguna better pa.

Romba romba nandri sago❤😊😊😊😊😊😊

Sago ungaloda mobile pesa mudiyuma pls thappa eduthuka vendam mudiyalanalum paravala sago naa youtube chatlaiya ungaloda connectla irupa eppovome romba nandri sago🙏

Bigger turbo would help

No sales as desired because there is no desire. The company is content with selling the numbers it does. There’s no big push for volume. It’s a margin game for Force.

its a combination of the above. My family were Force Motors (then Tempo) dealers for over 20+ years. and the company had very good technically sound products like the Tempo Trax, Traveler, Matador. But jus didnt support dealers in marketing them, no one knew who the manufacturer was. The only time they tried marketing was when they rebranded as Force and launched the Force One which as an old SUV they rebadged for india. If memory serves me right they used Amitabh for that campaign but it bombed due to low brand awareness, mediocre product and no follow up campaigns. Even now if you see their digital platforms they use tacky stock photos and mock up the vehicles on them or use only content shot by users. Which is of poor quality versus the slick ads a Mahindra makes.

@@tripaccino why Force Motors is not diving in hard in the market as the product they have " A capable vehicle like GURKHA" ?.....because there's no other brand's vehicle that soothes the naked eye as Gurkha does....So the question is the Force motors satisfied 🤔🤔

@@gauravthakur9634 force motors is India’s largest van maker: its profits don’t come from the niche Gurkha : the main source of revenue is their engine and drivetrain axle production for Daimler Benz and BMW which is a thriving vertical. Gurkha is the margin product for them. So they don’t go for cut throat pricing or offers or tv ads or banner ads z What sells , sells. And who buys buys. They are in a state of rare contentment with regard to their only passenger car offering. Trere is huge potential to blow up the gurkha into a solid international offering but Force is not ready for that kind of commitment to the Gurkha. Watch my Indian Grenadier video for the sentiment. 🤔

@@tripaccino beardar I already watched it(granedier)but Gurkha is our own niche defender...that's where it hurts...par mere bhai ji apne toh apne hote hai..😅😅...parayo se kya lagao rakhna ....no matter how good they are...😄

Spread the word brother !

No . Only this channel

Ohh sorry. That channel s voice over is exactly like yours.

Yup I heard it after you said 😊

Thanks 🙏

Please share with thar friends