Yes indeed - and getting to see enough stones in person will broaden your horizons aswell. Cheers

what other gems are untreated?

Thanks very much~

Comments are more than welcome~ fear not. I agree on the camera vs reality point - there are some things that just can't be captured effectively by technology at this point. In some ways thats frustrating, but also it means that there is something still out there in this world that you literally have to come in contact with personally in order to experience it. There is not remote enjoyment of real colour.

I agree my vivid yellowish orange diamond looks like fanta orange but it is seldomly photogenic and telegenic coz it looks so much better in person.

Thanks very much. I agree, and also believe it has a level of "value innovation" that has the capacity to serve us all in an organic way. Cheers

Thank you~

Congrats on the achievement~

​@@GemologyforSchmucksThank you. It's a pretty good feeling.

My pleasure~

Im glad~ hopefully it makes the conversation and decisions easier for everyone.

​@@GemologyforSchmucks for me it does. Always helps to see some numbers, even when missing some information (like beeing able to see the colour first hand)

Thank you~ I make a point of collecting the best i can find 🎉❤

Thank you ~ may you have a nice day aswell.

It's a great stone, and regardless of the weather. Even in the dead of winter, it screaaams.

@@GemologyforSchmucks ..and it's ready for Fall all year 😃

@@AStri-zg5xc Its like pumpkin spice, but on my hand XD

@@GemologyforSchmucks youre speaking my language! Im a big fan of Jack o lanterns/pumpkins and have a design in mind showcasing a spessertine or orange sapphire as the "pumpkin" and a small peridot or even maybe a nice tsavorite as the leaf/stem. 😁

Thats what happened to me too XD. I saw it once and it haunted me, so i had to go back and buy it.

Meeeee too.

Thanks for the suggestion. Rough stones run through quite a different pipe-line than cut stones, so showing overlapping qualities of rough and cut at this time seems out of reach.

Thanks for the suggestion.

I've heard this aswell - unfortunately these magnets are regulated by the authority here in Thailand, for whatever reason.

so a regular magnet won't work?

@@rainbowstar2775 it’s gotta be one of the strong rare earth magnets - they’re usually shiny and not the black ceramic looking ones

Thank you~ i'm quite partial to it myself.

Soon~ putting the final touches on that content here shortly.

Thank you ~ I keep growing it XD

Thanks~ the first step of mastering price points is making sure you can accurately identify the quality of the stones. Second step is seeing enough stones to know what is actually rare. Finally, shop as much as you can.

Doesn't it so!

@@GemologyforSchmucks Very pretty stone. It does stick to a strong magnet, also.

Thanks very much ~ I also enjoy amber, though spessartite has some strong advantages. Its much tougher, rarer and often a much purer orange rather than the autumn yellow-brown of amber.

Thanks very much~

Hopefully soon ~

Thank you ~ Hessonite is definitely real, yes. It tends not to be as orange as the best coloured spessartite. That said~ some mediocre spessartite can be indistinguishable by eye with hessonite. I have another video on the spectroscope, which makes investing and trading in spessartite smoother in my opinion. (link below) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q9Jjl6qX2LS7j3U.htmlsi=IG6kUcZPYy2Kc7E3

Thx

Colour is number one. Then we can look at clarity and decide if the stone is still beautiful. If it is, it doesn't matter if its not totally clean.

It is still worth alot.

Hi Gavin, selling and trading any object of value has a similar first step: cultivate your network. It's the same as if you wanted to buy and sell antique furniture, paintings, cars, horses, or anything else. What I suggest is that you find your suitable way to get in front of people that are interested in gemstones, find out what items they're interested in, and what price point they're able to deal with. It's just like if you take the Mona Lisa and try to sell it to people who have no interest in art or antiquity, or cannot afford it, there will be no deal. On the other side, if you take paintings that sell like hot cakes at craft-fairs, and try to sell them to the folks interested in Mona Lisa, Rembrandt and Picasso, there will likely be no deal. Both sell, but in different contexts with different people, with different budgets and priorities.

@GemologyforSchmucks there doesn't seem to be a market for gems in my neck of the woods so I gotta keep looking. Thanks for the "gem" you dropped me 😁

@@gavinalderman4428 Definitely keep looking. It may be that gems in your neck of the woods are your "blue ocean" and you just have to figure out your way into it. Cheers and best of luck.

@GemologyforSchmucks been at it for over a year, and STILL absolutely fired up everytime i see anything gem-related. Maybe gems are supposed to be my thing😏

Great question, and yes it is totally possible, though highly unlikely. Many dealers that get ahold of facet-grade rough have it faceted because they believe that will give them the highest value. I don't think that is objectively true, but the practical truth is that some people associate facets with higher quality material. Thats like the general belief that if a gemstone is in silver jewelry, it must be cheap. In my mind that is illogical. To come full circle - if I came accross high quality rough, i'd likely have it cabbed first while thinking long and hard about what final faceting pattern I may want. At the end of the day, the rarity and quality of the material and the objective beauty are what drive the price.

@@GemologyforSchmucks thanks for that info...I like your comment about silver settings...I got a really nice unheated red ruby that i paid considerable amount of money for and when i decide to get it set into a ring, it will be in silver ! I went to a jeweler and he actually told me he will only set it in Gold/platinum...I guess i will have to find someone else when the time comes...

​@@superfluity-of-naughtiness777 part of the challenge of getting skilled goldsmiths to work with silver is the price point. Many feel that they don't get appropriately compensated for their skill level if they work in silver.

wooohooo~!

Specimens value is in whether or not they have well formed crystal faces and if they're attached to appealing mother rock. If it doesn't check those two boxes... you can get them faceted.

@@GemologyforSchmucks I’m sending you a couple of photos .. and maybe even a couple more I don’t want to bombard you with it but these are some perfect large and small specimens in a myriad of delicious clarity and colors maybe even color changing ? I have a specimen on the hill that is over 100 lbs with crystals all the way around

An excellent question - from the gemologist point of view, the "too clear for untreated emerald" comment is ignorant. It is commonly true, but it is not objectively true. In Afghan (Panjshir) and some Russian emeralds, you can find extroardinarily clean and large emeralds with nice colour. Some look closer to tourmaline, and others are obviously and inarguably emerald, but anyhow. One major basic influence is the geological conditions that emeralds occur in, compared to aquamarine, so there is a lot of wild science to dig into on the reactions and chemistry involved there. More specifically to your stone, in this era, an aquamarine that has a strong green component often can be removed with light heating, and this is undetectable. That colour is unstable. The blue is stable. With "green beryl", the green colour is caused by the chemistry of the stone, and is stable. More intensely coloured green beryl is often designated as emerald. So... yes, it a complex topic, and i'll look for an opportunity to put together a video to clear it up and help folks understand the value points and key issues in the value conversation.

So to really make sure it is an emerald, I have to heat it lightly to prove that the green is stable? Because ultimately the difference between aquamarine and emerald is the trace element. Aquamarine have iron while emerald have vanadium or chromium. To give you more clues, this gem origin is Madagascar and the gem trader only stated that it is "green beryl" and untreated so I kinda doubt the gem.

​@@lc4n333 I do not recommend heating the stone yourself. The wrong temperatures and times can irreparably harm or alter your stone. I would not worry too much about treatment on the colour you've described. With the highly unstable colours, its usually a peculiar and intense blue-grey colour, and it fades quite quickly (days) in the presence of sunlight (a pretty safe test is to put it on your windowsill, as long as you're not worried about possible theft XD ).

congrats~!

As they say: if you offer it, someone will buy. The universal question becomes "who". That is your quest - fair faring.

Excellent question ~ for first interactions, I usually go for paypal for its simplicity. Otherwise, for larger purchases and or clients with an established relationship, I prefer to go through Transferwise, as they don't eat 5%, and accommodate many different currencies with an excellent exchange rate. If you'd like to discuss this further, you're welcome to email me at thegemshepherd@gmail.com Thanks for the question~

If you don't see the value, you're welcome not to buy.