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DBD changing the same 10 perks again for the 20th time.

ngl man, I'm fed up with always seeing the same 5 perks getting rebalanced for the past 2 years. What a toothless balance team.

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This 'Meta Shakeup' isn't going to last very long if BHVR only ever changes the most used/problematic perks instead the whole roster of never used perks

I just wish they would do more than 8 perks every 10 months.

I'm honestly tired of them nerfing/buffing/reworking the most used perks. Would be better imo to just make the lesser used perks more viable so we have a broader meta. How long are they going to ignore these perks?

Someone in the add on department has a blight body pillow and you cannot tell me otherwise

I think instead of changing Chucky they should of made it so Survivors could still vault over pallets while Chucky scampers under them, allowing for both players to mind game each other

"All of these changes are really great, just as long as you also buff low-tier killers' basekit as well as the weaker perks tha-" "No lmao"

I like the idea of making some of the meta regression perks not so meta anymore but I don’t like that they didn’t buff any other regression perks at all. They were meta for a reason and that was because the other ones are garbage. A small buff to some of them would’ve been nice.

I feel like behavior just looks at usage and not why they are used. Pain res and pop are used because slow down is needed. Slowdown is needed because gens can take anywhere from 90s to 45s to complete. Bad killers don't stand a chance without them.

I swear with pop they realised 20% was too weak, so they then buffed it to 30% of overall gen progress, and now reverted it back to 20% a year later? Why not just 25 lol

I think the only thing that needs a shake up is the balance team. Either they need more help and resources or its time for them to go off to greener pastures or other positions because balancing the same group of perks constantly and ignoring the completely worhless ones once a year ain't cutting it. Also the map design team needs some fucking help because whoever did RPD needs Jesus

i have more of a problem with a 20 second background player than one with 200% speed. Run vigil with that and you get a chance on every single down, even when the guy being chased is the most free kill in existance.

So they nerfed the best gen regression perks and made a perk that gives a BNP on 7 gens at once by staying still for 60 seconds? What could go wrong.

i like these changes as a killer main because it gives me the exact motivation i needed to take a loooooong break from the game.

Avoiding chucky when he’s is scampering from a slice and dice is so easy to dodge as survivor, they should buff his turn rate after otherwise his main power would be useless.

the problem with Scampering during slice and dice is that survivors basically always have time to position themselves at an angle where its impossible to hit them because of the limiting turn rate.

Scott, I wouldn’t surprised if the sabo speeds on toolboxes refers to the stupid debuffs some toolboxes like Engineer’s had to saboing hooks. Pretty sure for at least one of them it’s a 75% reduction to saboing for seemingly no reason now; even if there was a justification prior to the big toolbox rework in 2019/2020 (I don’t exactly recall when it was)

I'm so glad the devs spent all this time to change a few #s in their code. They really do work so hard for this community

I still don't understand why there are so many really bad perks that have potential but are just left to rot by the devs.

I completely agree with Scott, before going for perks like Pop the devs should first look at how they could find that perfect sweet spot where it's not a scenario where they change something that's only miserable on the strongest killers because from those nerfs the weakest killers suffer the most because most weaker killers rely on those strong perks to be able to catch up with everything.

Welp, looks like this is another "Hour of the Witch" moment, as in "I'm gonna take a year-long break from the game". See you all for the 9th anniversary.

its also worth mentioning that the scamper cooldown begins upon starting a slice and dice anyway, assuming we can still scamper cancel windows and chain 1 billion slice and dices then the new cooldown will be basically non-existent - this is actually a pretty insane buff to his map control potentially

Buffing toolbox sabotage speed in the same patch where Background Player is gonna be able to be used more often is....an interesting choice

i think pop definitely needed to be brought in line with other perks even if it was a healthy perk, rewarding hooks. i think it would be interesting if regression perks had a mechanic like exhaustion so you can't stack a bunch of them, or give weaker ones an upside where they have a lesser cooldown to incentivize more mild regression perks. imagine if pain res gave you a status called maybe "expended" or something that prevents you from triggering another regression perk for 45 seconds, but if surge goes off it expends you for maybe 15 seconds? haven't thought it through very much but would be a cool idea

Quick question if anyone knows. Does the new ultimate weapon perk only make survivors scream within 32 meters of the locker you opened, or any locker? If just the one locker you opened then it just feels like a worse darkness revealed

If I use Buckle Up on someone and they Sprint Burst away, I wonder if they will move at 300% movement speed.

Ruined Chucky, ofc people who don't understand how to play against Chucky's directionalty are excited about this.

Buckle up will not be used anymore. They just needed to add a line in the perk description that makes it not useable with FTP, and then hopefully have the ability to code that nuance into the game.

BHVR: (Long, whistling fart that ends as a shart) "There's your update."

Behavior! Let us see teammates perks in Solo que!

Nerfing the only 2 regression perks left. Meanwhile the regression perks that got nerfed due to 3 gen meta (something that can't physically exist anymore) still have yet to be reverted. Just actually moronic. Also 10:55 , that's not how pop works. If a gen is at 80% it isn't going to go down to 50%. The perk goes based off CURRENT progress on the gen. It's why pop is literally only useful on gens that are almost done because 30% of barely anything... would regress barely anything.

Buckle up can be used with ftp and that one Gabriel perk to still get endurance tho for the one healing. But now it’s 3 perks instead of two

first time i get recommended your video in at least a year man, i always have to search your channel to check your stuff sadge

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every chucky after this patch: Addons: -Hard Hat-breaks pallets after scamper -Running shoes-increases movement speed after scamper 2% Perks: -Enduring-Hubris-slowdown/info-slowdown/info

Im curious how many matches are going to be slug cuty with the sabo buff. Theres already a lot of sabo squads wirh boil over and thst offering to seperate hooks.

Why did they drop these ahead of the anniversary stream? For the upcoming ptb or?

It sucks that they are nerfing the best gen regression perks without buffing anything else

R.I.P killers, if you find out your que times are longer don't be surprised why, devs are making a joke out of their own game.

You know, I just thought about maybe having perk values. Kinda like VHS I think had. Where you can take really strong perks as a strong killer, but then you can’t take four of them. Maybe trapper has 16 points, while blight and nurse has 10. Most slow down perks could be 4 while less effective ones could be 3, or maybe you could use a lower tier of the perk to decrease its cost. That would probably be hard to implement, and in general I don’t know if players liked it in VHS.

I never had a problem with borgo's red lighting but after seeing the updated image I can see how bad the red was.

I am dying for a discussion as to why nerfing the most used perks, which is consequently gen regression perks for my TED talk, is the correct answer drom BHVR’s point of view…if gen regression perks are being used so much, arguably some of the most boring perks only used so the game doesn’t end instantly from gen rushing, then maybe address gen speeds or toolbox speeds rather than changing the symptoms of gen speed?? it feels so odd that they see increased gen regression perks across the board and they think “oh its prevalent and widely used so a nerf is in order” what problem does that solve? the perks are used for a reason but they didn’t even address the reason these perks are used! instead they buffed sabo speed like alex’s doesn’t give a guaranteed trade anyways…like i can understand why they would remove endurance from buckle up, you get it from off hook, styptic agent, off the record, etc…but gen regression options are these popular perks and kicking the gen, which base kicking has gotten a significant buff dedinitely but its not a comparison in terms of perk strength. would love to hear from anyone else on whether im crazy or missing something or some other point of view because this way of changing things based off of popular use does not make any sense to me…

14:00 no more buckle up here comes we're gonna live for forever, mettel of man, for the people and made for this which is far more fair than free invincibility

I feel like if instead of nerfing pop they could go for making other slowdown perks be able to replace it more consistantly while also making them not compatible with with the 2 main slowdown perks

You can still get the protection for the buckle up/for the people combo, you just need to use made for this with it.

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I feel like BHVR's on the right track, there are two steps they need to do: 1) Nerf perks and addons on both sides 2) Buff basekit on both sides They've got the first step down, now they just need to learn there's a second step lmao

my crackpot pop goes the weasel nerf idea: it starts at 30%, but the damage decays based off of the hooked survivors wiggle progress when they are hooked. so for example, if you die directly under a hook and get hooked immediately, the killers next kick will do 30% damage to the gen, but if your wiggle progress is almost full when you are hooked, maybe the gen damage will be closer to something like 10%. gives some minor counterplay for the survivors against pop and makes it slightly more interactive, giving rise to scenarios where a killer running pain res pop picks up a survivor and sees a hook close by and a pain res hook much further, and they’ve gotta decide what they wanna go for. idk i think it sounds neat lol

I've used Invocation: Weaving Spiders exactly once. I ran to the basement at the start of the match, started the invocation right away, decided to commit to it, and in the last 30 seconds the killer hooked somebody and then downed both of the other players, and I came out of the basement broken where she was waiting for me and I went down about 30 seconds after I finished the invocation. So yeah, I didn't use it again. Good buff tho

I guess I'll have to quit Chucky too because yet again the devs can't take into account that some people don't play on PC and can't flick-tech.

Bubba with chili and engravings will be extremely strong in a 1v1 now. It will guarantee that they'll have to drop almost every pallet early or risk going for a stun. Bubba enthusiasts rise up!

thanks for keeping us updated Scoot

I wish they would make more perk mechanics into base mechanics, kind of like what they did with borrowed time for survivors. Maybe some generic Boon ability survivors could do if they don't have any boon perks equipped/hex ability killers could start with if they dont have any hex perks equipped, and the other boon/hex perks augment this base mechanic with their unique effects. I mostly just want more interactive gameplay options without necessitating using specific perks for it.

Gen-regression-from-hooks is nerfed while Sabo/Background is buffed. This incentivizes slugging. To balance Sabo buffs, I would have left Pain Res and Grimbrace alone, put Pop at 20% current, buff Ruin to 150%. You’re still rewarded for attempting to hook despite new Sabo difficulties.

As a Chucky enjoyer who never scampered once, he will still be a strong killer with his dash alone

do you think each killer should have an amount of “tokens” based on their strength and perks should be weighted so slowdowns require more tokens then chase or aura perks to counteract the gap between top tier killers and the bottom tier. it would mean a blight or nurse cannot run more than 2 slowdowns but trappers and freddys still can run 3 or 4. also vice versa for survivors. different weight on perks depending on which type of perk it is

hearing "Borgo good" come from Scott sounds cursed

Bubba buff? I think you mean… BASEMENT BUFF!

Still no fucking myers buff

im wondering when pop will be changed into a scourge hook, feels like thatll be the next thing they try to do

Probable to solve the misserable situation of ten pops in the same gen would be making it so the first time you kick a gen: loses 30%, second time 20%, third or more 10% extra gen progress.

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These are nice changes, but shame we can't have some buffs to lower perks to make variety even more of a thing. I remember an earlier road map had scheduled changes to Distressing and This Is Not Happening. What happened to those? What about some of the other lower perks? It'll be great to see them get some love or even full remakes!

Thanks Scott! See you on the next big patch!

sounds like one might need to predrop vs LF now

Ever since Scott made that fake patch note video I always need to check the comments first to see whether it's real or not lmao

Why yes BHVR, I willa absolutely forget about the last mid chapter. Thank you for these great changes.

pop as a scourge hook instead but at 30%? would it be better?

One perk being in 40% of loadouts is insane though holy

I think the Buckle Up change is far more preferable to a simple change that made FTP + Buckle Up not work. This combination of perks was bad, but I think right now FTP + Buckle Up can be used as a good way to help your teammates that are being tunneled. They sprint away while you are very vulnerable to being hit. On top of that, it removes one of the 3 "endurance when picking up" perks. The more perks that do smth different the better imo.

Very sad about the buckle up change, I'm almost exclusively solo que and the FTP-BU combo was a lot of fun to use, because it was great resource against tunneling and slugging, and it was fun to get it off successfully. Now I guess I'll need to find a new fun solo que build :(

I am honestly hyped for chucky and bubba.. bubba was on suicide watch after his add on need, billys buffs, and the face camp mechanic. This will be pretty nice not NEEDing chili

I wonder how much lower we can make M1 killrates go.

I am soo unbelievably stoked about the borgo change. very nice of them to continue to consider the concerns of colorblind players without just falling back on the current colorblind mode. very very nice.

Honestly I think Pop should decrease in power in relation to how many survivors are remaining. All 4 survivors = 30%, 3 survivors = 20%, 2 survivors = 10%, and it deactivates when one survivor remains. Overall though I think this patch is excellent and I’m a big fan of a lot of the changes.

if theyre going to make the scamper only activate during a slice & dice, then bring back the flick

I wish that they also returned the 180 flicks with Chucky, but they probably won’t.

I can’t believe they nerfed pop and pain res but buffed weaving spiders, and sabos. I guess endgame builds or pentimento will be run.

I think one of the biggest issues with Pop and Pain Res are just how frequently they are run. Just about every match, killers are running one or both of those perks. Slow-down being part of the balance of the game is understandable, but the usage for those two perks is just off the charts. There is a debate to be had about whether they should have done this or buffed the other regression perks, but I think its difficult either way. If you buff the weaker regression perks, then you just end up with killers running even more of them and if you just nerf the stronger ones then you end up with the weaker killers suffering disproportionately. Feels like there are more foundational changes that need to happen.

i actually raised my fists in the air when i saw the borgo screenshot. i no longer have to worry about loading into a map that causes me real physical pain.

I was there when Scott forgot the t

I feel like I’m one of the only ones happy with the pop change but they could have just made it 20% flat regression

Spicy take grim embrace is healthy for the game.

Very good points during the Pop portion, and sadly I see only one realistic solution to the top-tier-killer problem: Per-killer Perk balancing. BHVR has proven time and again they are unable to properly balance killers (see: Twins "rework") to the point that the only way for there to realistically be a healthy compromise between the top-tiers and the other 90% is for those better killers to have restrictions/debuffs placed on their perks. Things like "Blight and Nurse are only allowed to bring one slowdown perk." I hate how inelegant and confusing it would be, but I cannot see a world where the game is in a healthy enough state for anything else to work.

I kinda wish gens had a minimum progress threshold that went up with the regression block mechanic (maybe even remove the block mechanic in favor of this idea). Like for every regression event the gen can't go down past an escalating 2/4/6/8% etc. That would reduce the horrible double/triple punishment that happens in solo queue when someone keeps going down and your gen keeps getting hit by perks because no one else is doing any gens. Like you'll probably still lose if the team is going down so easily but at least a gen or two can be done.

I feel like it would be fun to have a system where perks are worth points, and killers have a select amount of points to spend on perks for a build. like pop is worth 3 points and a killer only has 10 points to use to equip perks

Bubba mains rise ⛓️‍💥🪚✊✊

Very important thing with bubba collision. Will be easier to dodge with the hit detection being smaller. So hopefully it’s not too bad.

Something they should really consider with Background Player - you should lose the sprint after a successful blind. It actually lasts long enough to double as a getaway car if you're close enough, which is really egregious.

The nerf to slowdown perks is absolutely ridiculous. This game is balanced around slowdown, and gens already pop so quickly. It's so demoralizing to see

This is by far one of the worst updates to all these perks

i like this good update tbh , always good to see bubba get some love hes becoming very rare hopefully this brings more out

For chucky they should make scamper just last longer when ypu do it so survivor has more time to run away or make when scamper as chucky you lose your power

Damn BHVR, at this point just make the pain res add generator progress. Why make a perk if it just will never work as you want it?

So they decided to lower kill rates on higher level by 20%, got it

I feel like they could remove “perk tiers” by making tier levels for each killers ( 1 star, 2 star, 3 star) and the tier one killers get the current level 3 perks, then level 2 get the current two and the top tier killers like nurse, blight etc. get the lowest current level of perk. Thoughts on this

For so long I've been wanting bubba to get chilli and 2% speed baskit, they actually did it.