Agreed

Exactly.

I thought architect actually said that in the movie, but maybe not. I dont think anyone thought it was previous "ones" until this video lol

Same here

True

Thank you! I’d hoped that someone would know that! They don’t elude to him looking the same every time.

Occams Razor. Thank you

I agree, the architect can see all the potential reactions that Neo could have, but because of the free will element in the the matrix program, he has no way of knowing which one Neo will choose. An artful representation of the conflict between the will of the creator and the free will of humanity.

Yup.

Next time, why does Neo wear shoes? What is the meaning? And why does the architect wear shoes? He has no feet.

Actually it was just one 3 minute take they chopped up and copied to fill the space ~

Way to serious

Theres scenes of the making of for this scene, its really funny

There is a video of this filming haha.

Why does he same a number? "What? Three times Bullshit" "Four?" "Five?"

Thank god someone said it. I could be wrong but didnt this get discussed in some behind the scenes stuff that these screens represent Neos various emotions and possible responses. Basically showing that everything about Neo is calculated by the machines.

I imagine Zion like like mine craft. Only strictly conceptual and based for manipulation without total malice. I am basing this off a couple things; first went did the machines who were clearly mass producing human beings as batteries a.) Create humans with actual consciousness? It could serve no real purpose towards their own end goal, except if it was an unavoidable inevitability with humans. A fair amount if scientific study has proposed our consciousness as a byproduct of the vast amounts of energy involved with our brains functioning. So perhaps they couldn't control that. This all the other shenanigans. B.) Why even create bodies? Solipsism should and would have been a better option imo. A human psyche exposed to the final truth of their existence would most likely be maddening and if they even tried to tell anyone they probably would just have been ignored and presumed insane. Thus being easier to sort of factory reset once that occurred. I.e. they go crazy get shipped to an asylum and we're later deemed well again and reinserted into the main frame. Humanity would see it as a miracle of modern psychology and become more docile. & c.) Why create a way for them to even be removed from the matrix? This goes back to the solipsism bit. Sort of. If they were created generationally or whatever they could just be brains in vats; the waste disposal process alone would make more sense. Also what sense is there in loyalty providing the means of their escape?...... which leads me to the other part I wanna talk about ; the real world and Zion. I think no one actually escaped as the real world was just a different aspect of the larger matrix. A major point that always confused me was how Smith possessed a human body. I don't buy into the whole, he became a virus bs cause it would mean he totally overrode the already existing human conscious with basically a screwed up Norton program. It works in the matrix program if everyone was just like sentient AI; cause it would be like installing a new OS over a corrupted or ruined one on your laptop etc. It makes no sense though in regards to an actual functioning human body. Imo Regardless the real world and Zion were most likely distractions to satiate those who thought they escaped and would begin producing more energy to fuel the machines as they thought they were being more active and productive fighting an imaginary war. It's also possible the real world we saw was so horrible so as once seen by the red pilled it would terrify them into wanting to return to the matrix. It's worth mentioning but probably is really a nonpoint but why would the machines leave the world they now inhabited and ruled such trash? Maybe they just didn't care but were they really ever sentient if they did not have interest in aesthetics? The real world and Zion tbh feel more like a cruel joke. Anyway I've ranted long enough. Any thoughts?

That’s how I saw it...

@@jesusisgod2953 are you a Christian, a BHI or just a big fan of the bible? Im sincerely asking before I say anything else.

Flintlock Avery yeah, it wasn’t meant to be the other times it’s happened

That’s on the lines of what I think also. The architect is a program. It is trying to foresee all possible outcomes to its actions which it can control to variables it cannot.

So the same thing the narrator said?

Shane Esarik Yes. We are simply saying it is how we think / points that caused us to come to that conclusion. It was more constructive than saying. “I concur.” How about try being something other than obvious or obnoxious.

Paul Hightower in a sense.

Exactly; like running prediction calculations based on input and then tweaking the algorithm based on feedback. AI machine learning :)

I always thought the same thing.

Same. I think you got it on point.

i just thought that they were representations of the previous "one"..

Yeap that what I thought. Each outcome of each choice he makes.

✌️😉🐺🐇🙏🏻

Yep! Everything/One is recorded here.

Beautifully put sir.

Great interpretation! 🎉

It's always harder to debug code than it is to write it. If you are coding at your absolute best and make a mistake, it's almost impossible for you to see it, otherwise you wouldn't have made it.

Like a virtual hydra, @Adriel Werlich.

True complex masterpiece

I've seen a few references to this but can you explain how Trinity kissing him brought him back to life as part of the machine or matrix

@@cantcatchzoom19 Because Neo was never human. He was a program from the start. Hence why when he died in the real world he went to the subway station because he chose not to return to the source. Its hinted throughout the movie that programs can feel love, emotions etc. Agent smith becomes a human when he absorbes a dude (forgot his name). Neo was the algomation of the anomaly not the true anomaly itself. The anomoly is the 1% of people refusing the program. The oracle is a program wich made smith and Neo, to be the form of controle over the 1%. Because they all follow Neo and believe in him. He is not allowed to know this truth. He is a sort of hybrid. Hence why no other human can dodge bullets like the agents can. Its not enough to simply dismiss reality. Otherwise more people would have had ability's like Neo. Ofcourse this is ignoring the extended lore wich by my knowledge is not cannon. As per the video game mmo etc. Machines learning and adapting is its core so the journey of Neo is still the same regardless. Anyway this is a *theory* but it has significant evidence in the Subway scene and him entering the matrix unplugged via death experience. Otherwise there is no explanation as to why Neo can access this. Aside from the all worlds are fake theory.

Actually the anomaly is Smith, who became part human due being in contact with Neo. Neo is integral anomaly, Smith is the anomaly. Do notice that smith and neo can traverse between worlds. They are actually one and the same, but split up anomaly, because if the architect did not split the anomaly into pieces, the matrix would collapse, thus creating a sort of janus by creating Neo and Smith to keep the matrix intact. Both of them visit Oracle aswell, manipulated by oracle. The Smith was gaining its sovereignty in the last matrix, so machines killed trinity in order to use Neo to kill Smith. Unstoppable force met immovable object, thus both were obliterated by their own opposing codes from the anomaly. That code was what restarted the matrix (because creating another matrix from scratch would be too high-cost). Neo was a tool, smith was becoming more and more human to the end, his last sentence was infantilism, a person who just understood what he had done for the first time. Besides, the anomaly was hinted when morpheus told that there were a firstborn (human) in matrix who could mold matrix to his will, this was the anomaly that architect was trying to get rid of and he succeeded by the help of the oracle. Architect tried to kill the anomaly 6 times, and generalization did not help him. 5 other times killed the other part of the anomaly(pre-smith), rendering other useless (merovingian etc). Personalization oth the both sides from the divinated anomaly did eliminate both, thus code was injected successfully and the architect appears as smugly as he could and congratulates Oracle (his own invention) for breaking the anomaly. Do note that Smith knows Architect and Oracle personally, this compicates the computation even further since they cannot attack anomaly head on, thus they have to create an elaboratred hoax and fake alliance in order to make Smith surrender itself to the source. I'm really exited what the 4 matrix will hold, since matrix 3 it actually did solve the anomaly.

it's how he purged his emotions for the actual Neo character. He put so much emotion into that one scene that he's still stoic in John Wick.

Ghost Flames canon 😂😂😂

But he cant act.

Ummm, what? Every actor has to act every emotion in every scene that they do, this was nothing special.

@@alfredsukeloff7183 it’s a bit more difficult to do than you’d imagine. To read someone else’s words, and make them sound like your own, and on top of that make the viewers believe that they’re your own. It’s not an easy task. And honestly, I want even a Keanu Reeves fan until I watched this film. It’s actually what made me wait to the last second to go see it in a theatre. The. I saw how much progress he’d made since “Point Break”, and started to pay closer attention to his work.

It’s been canceled

I think the architect speaks like that because he is a computer program and therefore speaks very robotically after scanning the entire english language to use the most efficient words

@@alexandertaves2730 Not anymore, it's coming December 21, 2021.

@meleardil "The stupid "battery" thing" - That is a very weak plot point affecting entire franchise, to explain away the obvious choice, given the fact they are in a state of total war, for the machines of exterminating the human species (can't do that, if you need them to survive yourself). Yes, it's true the human body produces some electricity and some (more) heat, but these are merely BYPRODUCTS of its true function - which is to stay alive. Our bodies can generate somewhat impressive amounts of energy, but also consume almost equally impressive amounts of it as well, in order to grow, develop, repair and defend themselves. It is simply NOT possible to capture these byproducts and use them to carry out useful work. Besides, there are much more efficient means of energy production the advanced machines in the Matrix Universe could employ with significantly less hassle - e.g. nuclear and geothermal power immediately come to mind. Also, the "scorched sky" is basically just very thick smog in the upper atmosphere, preventing the sunlight from reaching the planet's surface; however, above that, one can see the there's NOTHING wrong with the sun itself, as it still continues to shine. Large solar panel satellites could be deployed in geostationary orbits over the day-side of the planet to collect as much energy from the sun as needed and have it transmitted to special receiver facilities on the surface, as concentrated maser pulses. Just an example...

I imagine Zion like like mine craft. Only strictly conceptual and based for manipulation without total malice. I am basing this off a couple things; first went did the machines who were clearly mass producing human beings as batteries a.) Create humans with actual consciousness? It could serve no real purpose towards their own end goal, except if it was an unavoidable inevitability with humans. A fair amount if scientific study has proposed our consciousness as a byproduct of the vast amounts of energy involved with our brains functioning. So perhaps they couldn't control that. This all the other shenanigans. B.) Why even create bodies? Solipsism should and would have been a better option imo. A human psyche exposed to the final truth of their existence would most likely be maddening and if they even tried to tell anyone they probably would just have been ignored and presumed insane. Thus being easier to sort of factory reset once that occurred. I.e. they go crazy get shipped to an asylum and we're later deemed well again and reinserted into the main frame. Humanity would see it as a miracle of modern psychology and become more docile. & c.) Why create a way for them to even be removed from the matrix? This goes back to the solipsism bit. Sort of. If they were created generationally or whatever they could just be brains in vats; the waste disposal process alone would make more sense. Also what sense is there in loyalty providing the means of their escape?...... which leads me to the other part I wanna talk about ; the real world and Zion. I think no one actually escaped as the real world was just a different aspect of the larger matrix. A major point that always confused me was how Smith possessed a human body. I don't buy into the whole, he became a virus bs cause it would mean he totally overrode the already existing human conscious with basically a screwed up Norton program. It works in the matrix program if everyone was just like sentient AI; cause it would be like installing a new OS over a corrupted or ruined one on your laptop etc. It makes no sense though in regards to an actual functioning human body. Imo Regardless the real world and Zion were most likely distractions to satiate those who thought they escaped and would begin producing more energy to fuel the machines as they thought they were being more active and productive fighting an imaginary war. It's also possible the real world we saw was so horrible so as once seen by the red pilled it would terrify them into wanting to return to the matrix. It's worth mentioning but probably is really a nonpoint but why would the machines leave the world they now inhabited and ruled such trash? Maybe they just didn't care but were they really ever sentient if they did not have interest in aesthetics? The real world and Zion tbh feel more like a cruel joke. Anyway I've ranted long enough. Any thoughts?

@@kevinfontan6404 - No.

@@tberry79 well since you said so.

@@kevinfontan6404 I definitely agree on the aspect of Zion being another layer of the Matrix, but there's problems with your human usage analsys. Let's start by assuming the humans as batteries concept was legitimate. Humans would need their consciousness because roughly 1/3 of sugar intake goes to the brain. The brain produces a lot of heat and is effectively the source of a notable proportion of the power humans would provide. I'm not sure if I'm understanding you correctly on the solipsism aspect, but I assume you mean one of 2 things. I'm not sure which one, but it's a heady topic so no shade thrown for having trouble clearly articulating it. A) Each person should effectively have their own instance of the Matrix. They would effectively be the only real mind in their own world. This would take insanely more processing, possibly in the scope of a Matrioshka brain level of processing, thereby defeating the purpose of using humans as a power source. Even advanced individual psychiatric reprogramming of massive portions of the population would be too processing heavy (energy intensive) to be justifiable. B) That the existence of humans in the Matrix need not be based around human body avatars within. The trouble with this connects to the necessity for, and simultaneously the failings of, human consciousness. No matter how technologically advanced we've become, our brain is still that of a primitive hunter gatherer. We are instinctively hardwired to certain activities and trying to tie those to any other shape, or even the absence of form, could likely result in insanity. That insanity might be able to countered with advanced training by the AI of the Matrix, but the trial and error to accomplish that would likely result in countless wasted humans and would not be as efficient of a use of resources from the perspective of the AI. I also have a hard time thinking the AI would use a cloning program as much as they would artificially grow infants from combining their in-Matrix parents DNA to ensure the subconscious aspects of child identification didn't cause disruptive effects to the stability of the Matrix. The Matrix needs to pander to that primitive hunter gatherer brain, and even subconscious suspicion that their child is not their own might clash with the stability of the Matrix. When talking about the notion of the "real world" being another level of the Matrix, I tend to refer to the layers as green layer and gold layer, in reference to the color of the code. The green layer is orderly and gratifies most people's need for a structured and predictable life. The gold layer is the more sophisticated level that's used to round up the trouble makers and deviants. The thousands of individuals that can't accept the orderly nature of the green layer, for their sake the gold layer looks like garbage. It's not to scare people back in, but to entice those that need to believe that reality is chaotic and need to see a world that matches their psychological expectations. The gold layer is likely more process intensive than the green layer, but the thousand that reside there are not a trivial amount of power. It's even plausible that their abstractness might make them more valuable to power production per individual than those in the green layer when accounting for adrenaline and such. It's also likely that the gold layer is designed as a place for the sentient AIs to reside, using less power living in a sophisticated simulation that appeals to their nature than to actually have thousands of robotic bodies in the real world outside of all layers of the Matrix. It doesn't really hurt anything for the AI's to share their layer with humans, as long as the power output of the people of Zion is net positive. That also means that clearing out Zion is like an economic crash in regards to their power economy. Oops, I did really long one.

love what you just said, and the ending part of your statement makes a lot of sense too bc if that were the case, anyone that chose the path that you mentioned would inherently be "the One" in their own reality

Exactly the Architect literally speaks on the fact that they are simulated responses by stating that his very job is to run the calculations of the Matrix and that he gets everything perfectly correct excepts for a slip or two (anomalies), something along those lines. Not sure how he missed it.

The Architect says there were 8 before Neo (or was it 6)? But why are are dozen and dozens of Neos in the TVs?

​@@Americansikkunt If you challenge your friend to pick a number out from 1-100, he would pick a number. If you challenged him again and again, and he did it 6 more times, you could start to see a pattern. Before you challenge him a 7th time, you could look at all the choices he's made so far, and see if you could predict his next response. You could see his favorite numbers, or maybe his least favorite numbers... Maybe his birthday? His mother's birthday? You could try all these different numbers and see a bunch of different "simulations" of numbers he Might pick.... While you only asked him to Actually pick a number 6 times so far... if you're Really good at guessing, and Really good at simulating, you could... Could.... guess the number he is going to pick the 7th time. This is what the architect did... He saw how the First Neo acted, and made predictions about the second.. he Saw how the Second neo acted, and he had more patterns and more predictable behavior... So when the Third Neo came around, he was better equipped to handle it, and could run more simulations... once he got down to the 6th Neo, he could basically predict all the possible responses Neo could make, and then boil it down to just one option, the option Neo chooses. Effectively, the Architect can predict the future.

@@chriskeck3689 Yeah! I mean.. maybe in little ways-- I doubt I could understand the code of the matrix enough to stop bullets, but I'd understand it enough to just like.. use my mind powers to pull things closer to me. I'd probably be able to change the traffic lights when I wanted to, or stop my popcorn from burning... little things.

Nice weather isn't it neo

Maybe we'll find out in M4

"Hey, you made it! Didn't think that was gonna work...damn her. Ok, this is going to be weird but you gotta go back in. Let me explain...."

@ the choice between humanity and trinity was only for the 6th version of the matrix

"Thank you Neo. But your princess is in another castle."

Lol what if that wakes you up super duper? XD

*WOKETH TO THE CORE*

Purple pill. You wake up to the system but choose to obey.

I’m down to try it. Sounds fun!

This isn't a gender study, there are only two choices, and they are exclusive. Either you leave the matrix, or you remain, one cannot do both

Same here. I thought it was Neo trying to make up his mind and when they all come into sync he is coming to some kind of conclusion/decision

That could explain why Cypher wanted to return, its because the reality of Zion was just another illusion inside the matrix, because he didnt want to live in a nightmare version of the simulation. And could also explain why the machine didnt kill/dispose Neo at the beginning. But that could have been also caused by the pill.

The first one wouldn't have had the same alternate Neos on the monitors, but they would have been there. The first ones could have just been showing the present to him.

@@DeathBYDesign666 That's what I meant, just monitors but no other neo's in the monitors.

I've got to say, that is very insightful/logical thinking. I would be mad at myself for not thinking that one up first, but odds are, I wasn't going to pull off what you just did. What you're saying makes a lot of sense, bc mathematically at some point the amount of thoughts and possibilities would change. Yet, they never do. So for it to be previous versions of Neo would be unbelievably convenient. It would be more likely that it is a thinking process, which in reality is a probability monitor. In other words, nice work! Thanks for helping me think outside/inside the box!!!

@@DukeGaGa Yeah but that's not what you said, you said no monitors would be there at all. We know some are also showing the present so he would have still been on them the first time, except no alternate reactions and it is possible they showed that one too. You would have to pay extra close attention to notice if they did, but it might be there. It's worth looking out for upon future viewings though.

@@DeathBYDesign666 why can't you read beyond the lines? If you know what I mean and still point out the obvious laziness of my typing that's just petty.

not all, some have other versions. is explicit in dialogue

Good keep up

Neo tapped Schroedinger's Cat?✌️

😂😂😂

You made the secret 3rd choice... the purple pill. You are now stuck between believing what you want, and not believing anything. Welcome to the head trip. Where you go from here is a choice I leave up to you.

@@LavaGodSerraph may be thts how Neo gets stuck between hardware and software world

That would make your shit purple ~

But The Bro in The room is The Truest one that baffles the architect.

Great point! This NEO is The ONE. The real One, the others were clones of him with certain spirits inhabiting which I won't type here since they delete true facts a lot. But that is why the clones were focused on Zion because they were not real, only programs. The real One is the other half of Trinity, this is all based on actual real live people, no joke. Good comment!😉

And that is why the Architect mentioned that his emotions were designed, making a reference to Merovingian and his cake-present to a lady to program her emotions.

All other screen is showing one thing "denial". What ever way he is saying it it means the same. It is not different reactions, the only different reaction is the one he has in the present meeting.

Agreed. This channel unfortunately is overthinking everything way to much.

To be fair I think a lot of people seemed to have trouble understanding the subtle philosophical concepts in this film, which is why it got underwhelming reviews. That's not to say they're not capable of understanding - I mean I have rewatched this film like 20 times, each time discovering another layer of the depth of this film I never noticed before. Most people won't rewatch a film if they don't understand it or come to a conclusion it's bad, and you have to watch this movie a couple of times before it starts to sink in how cleverly written this film is.

T'airn'KA I’m with you!

That was my initial thought. All the different possible responses all being played out at the same time.

@@matthewbrooks7458 so basically everything's a PROGRAM with all possibilities set. And basically the machines know and are ready for ALL possibilities.

Wait... I thought that multiverse(s) and dimension(s) are 2 separate an completely independent theories of ideals... Nonetheless, I can see where your going with the statement an most definitely agree with ya ! 🙃

Djinn Umoya Good question. The answer is that the theories are not necessarily in opposition to each other. For example, some theoretical physicists believe that the force of gravity is weak in our reality because much of it is escaping into another dimension. Some also believe that weakly interacting particles characterized as dark matter may have a different force and function in dimensions that we cannot perceive. Those dimensions could be part of a wholly different “reality”, and those weak interactions represent one bubble of the multiverse interacting with our bubble.

no only that is both

Naw Parallel Universes....

In the end they don't really need it, it merely would have made it easier for them. You can't be certain they would keep their word either, not after they erased your memories. Even with all that considered, it wouldn't really be you anymore anyway. As a bargaining chip it's not really worth very much in that sense, as it's essentially a form of suicide.

The machines will just off your ass lol they don't care or need to keep their word you'll be used and discarded as trash in the end.

Tekashi 69! Is that you? 😂

seems pretty stupid, living in a fake world is pointless, like playing a video game you can't lose with all the cheat codes enabled.