MATT Fradd's thoughts on Bishop VIGANO, Schism and EXCOMMUNICATION ! (

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15 күн бұрын

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@user-ho9gg7iz8f
@user-ho9gg7iz8f 9 күн бұрын
Read the full text of Vigano’s statement in Lifesite News. DONT just pick out the statement he wears the accusation with a badge of honor. He explains himself more deeply, IN HIS OWN WORDS!
@vivacristorey4363
@vivacristorey4363 3 күн бұрын
He denies that Pope Francis is the pope. That is schismatic and by his own words. It is indefensible. For those who think schism is okay, well then no argument will work against it. But the Church teaches that it is a sin.
@meganne6937
@meganne6937 13 күн бұрын
4th Commandment "Honor your Mother and Father". The Holy Father is our Spiritual Father here on earth as given to us by Jesus Christ Himself.
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
He's an anti-Pope who is trying to recreate trhe Church into his own image. He's pushed Jesus Christ out of the way, they call him an Apostate for this.
@bbob70
@bbob70 3 күн бұрын
Yes, he is. So why isn't he acting that way? Sometimes, you need to criticize your own parents if they are doing something wrong.
@paulchacko4543
@paulchacko4543 Күн бұрын
But all other commandments are superseded by first commandment.
@meganne6937
@meganne6937 Күн бұрын
@@paulchacko4543 1 John 3 23-24 "And this is his commandment, that we should believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. And all who obey his commandments abide in him and he abides in them. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit that he has given us."
@paulchacko4543
@paulchacko4543 Күн бұрын
@@meganne6937 I am talking about Pacha-Mama worship. How can we justify that? Then what about 'same sex marriage blessing'? I know that you will give me a ready made answer -
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 13 күн бұрын
Can he be excommunicated and right on the issues at the same time?
@TheCatholicPiper
@TheCatholicPiper 13 күн бұрын
That would be an oxymoron. Schism is defined as The refusal of submission to the Roman Pontiff or of communion with the members of the church subject to him. By Vigano saying Pope Francis is not the pope and the seat is vacant he is not submitting to the Roman Pontiff.
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 13 күн бұрын
@@TheCatholicPiper I understand your point. What I asked is could Vigano be right on numerous issues AND in schism at the same time because he refuses to be submitted to what he sees as error. We are to be obedient, but does that mean we have to be unthinking, also?
@TheCatholicPiper
@TheCatholicPiper 13 күн бұрын
@@randycarson9812 please read Code of Canon law 751, 752, and 753. If he doesn’t submit to the Roman pontiff and lies about the seat being vacant, should it not also call into question the validity of his other accusations?
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Vigano is not correct. He denies Pope Francis is the pope. He hasn't been correct about anything when you fact check what he has claimed. Not only this, the McCarrick report came out and confirmed that it was Vigano who enabled the sex abuser McCarrick. The document is close to 400 pages and I believe is on the Vatican Website. Reason & Theology has a three hour video from a few days ago going through the parts about Vigano. 1. Vigano was incorrect about Pope Benedict XVI ordering McCarrick to not travel. It was a recommendation, not an order. 2. Vigano was at multiple events with McCarrick and there is video of him praising Vigano though he had reported McCarricks allegations to the Vatican. So he knew about them when he was praising McCarrick. 3. McCarrick at one point sent a message to Vigano asking to go into more of a retirement status as he was getting too old to travel. Vigano never responded. McCarrick was going to fundraising events for the church and wanted to be replaced. He was evidently a good fundraiser. Vigano had a chance to stop McCarrick from traveling and didn't do anything. This is one of Vigano's accusations against Pope Francis and we are starting to see how unethical Vigano is. These events where before Pope Francis was pope. 4. While Pope Benedict XVI was pope, a priest contacted Vigano and informed him that he was going public with his accusations because the Vatican was too slow responding to his complaints. Vigano contacted the Vatican and informed them of this. The Vatican ordered Vigano to investigate the claims to see if they were true or not. VIGANO NEVER CONTACTED THE PRIEST OR DO ANY INVESTIGATION. 5. This shows how corrupt Vigano is. His father died and Vigano kept his own brother's inheritance from him. His brother had to take Vigano to court. And his brother won $2,000,000. That is $2 million dollars Vigano was keeping from his brother. Who is the real wolf in sheep's clothing?
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 13 күн бұрын
@@TheCatholicPiper I'm not arguing that Vigano should not be excommunicated if he is in schism. What I'm asking is: can he be in schism and be right in his accusations at the same time? Luther made a HUGE error, but he had some valid complaints, also. The Church WAS in need of correction. See what I'm saying?
@tylermcafee1081
@tylermcafee1081 13 күн бұрын
You do a great job. Thank you, JD.
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
I don't agree, JD is in the image and likeness of the anti-Pope.
@Lenaghan17
@Lenaghan17 12 күн бұрын
Dear Joseph. Glory to God, and thank you for your efforts and dedication to Catholic apologetics, and tackling hard issues head on. It is very refreshing to see new, young, zealous, and faithful members of the Church use their gifts and talents to evangelise and promote rigorous orthodox teaching from reliable sources, expanding on those and sharing both their fruits and consequences. We live in disturbing times. The family, the self, the priesthood, the Magisterium, and the very nature of what is right and good, are all under attack, even within the Church herself. Let us cling to Christ, our Father, and the balm of the Spirit. Let us chew on His words in Mt 16, recognise that he chose and ordained even the worst sinners from among His most intimate group, and uses even disordered men to fulfil His Will. My prayers go with you!
@havindy
@havindy 13 күн бұрын
“We must fight for the church not against it.”
@user-tv6vv5rb8v
@user-tv6vv5rb8v 8 күн бұрын
The Catechism also teaches that the Church will one day come to a crossroad where it will have to choose between the Truth and apostasy: 675 Before Christ's second coming the Church must pass through a final trial that will shake the faith of many believers. The persecution that accompanies her pilgrimage on earth will unveil the "mystery of iniquity" in the form of a religious deception offering men an apparent solution to their problems at the price of apostasy from the truth. The late Pope John Paul II has identified the present as that time. We are in "the final confrontation between the church and the antichurch". Jorge Bergoglio has already indicated what's next in this war, he wants to take down the teachings of the first Vatican Council on the papacy in order to unite with the Lutherans, Orthodox and Anglicans. The Anglican church is completely run by the British parliament and bishops even sit in the House of Lords, the Lutheran church in Germany is completely at the mercy of the German government through taxes provided. Bergoglio has betrayed the church in China to the CCP. The Russian Orthodox is completely controlled by the state. Once you bring all these groups together in a "synodal church" with a reduced papacy you have a religion controlled entirely by secular governments. This is the poisoned apple that Bergoglio is offering to the church, it is absolutely our duty to resist him with every means available.
@Kristopher-Christbearer
@Kristopher-Christbearer 13 күн бұрын
Thankfully Matt Fradd checks himself now. He still throws seeds of division like catholics are infighting. No, all sensible and good catholics, completely stand with Pope Francis and everything he teaches cause we submit our will and intellect to the Holy Father and the Magesterium. He is completely clear to us.
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 12 күн бұрын
The problem also with people who rally against the pope is they fall for the leaks and people leaking things against him for the propaganda of destroying him, 2nd they find him co fusing bec they like bite sized logos and take his statements out of context. Thing is the pope is not a politician and they want a savvy politician to be their pope. 3rd his accusers are all people from 1st world cou tries living posh lives so they do not understand and condemn the pope's social teaching (which stand by Church teaching) for the poor and marginalized. Everything is woke to these rich people and have made charity and love woke too so refuse it when the pope is open to it. Pope francis is not woke, he is just not a rich American republican
@anaclararodas4833
@anaclararodas4833 11 күн бұрын
Mmh, no we don't have to submit and accept everything the Pope teaches. If a Pope said that women could be priests or same sex marriage was possible we wouldn't-we shouldn't accept it. That being said, the Pope is the Pope, even if he's a bad one. And accusing Matt Fradd of sowing anything, that's just wrong, and my friend, you're being blind. Only look into this comment section or any other video touching this topic or TLM. There IS catholic infighting. You can't argue that those who disagree with you aren't real Catholics. That being said, we must obey the Pope where it's due and even if he is wrong, but there is a limit as well (that being going against the dogmas), and so far Pope Francis hasn't crossed it. Let's pray for unity and repentance on EVERYONE'S part, we are all sinners. Godbless.
@Nathan-vv8zz
@Nathan-vv8zz Күн бұрын
@@Kristopher-Christbearer yeah I’ll assume Francis is pope. But he doesn’t have authority to ban the Latin Mass. if he releases that document I’ll be finding a private Latin Mass to go to. And priests don’t need permission to say the TLM
@Kristopher-Christbearer
@Kristopher-Christbearer Күн бұрын
@Nathan-vv8zz he does tho lol. You choose bells and whistles larpers over God's church. That's weak and inferior. No energy. Repent. You sound like a 1500 larper that was upset when the church banned the greek rites and implented the latin mass.
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 13 күн бұрын
The New Martin Luther
@askal31
@askal31 12 күн бұрын
Are you referring to the anti-pope who has been displaying Luther in the Vatican?
@RogerCanda
@RogerCanda 12 күн бұрын
@@askal31explain more
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 12 күн бұрын
When you see Mass as a sacrifice of Jesus Christ weather you do it in Latin or English what is the difference?? You still put him on the cross
@hervedavidh4117
@hervedavidh4117 12 күн бұрын
Lefebvre before him.
@edithhewson7208
@edithhewson7208 12 күн бұрын
@@hervedavidh4117 ?????
@jineshfrancis
@jineshfrancis 13 күн бұрын
The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter’s successor, “is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful . For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as *Vicar of Christ* , and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church (pope is *plenipotentiary* means "fullness of power"), a power which he can always exercise unhindered". "pope cannot be a heretic" is the centuries old teaching of the catholic church. Vigano forgotten the oath he took in his ordination... The oath of obedience... This is the reason for Vigano's excommunication.
@askal31
@askal31 12 күн бұрын
A pope can be a heretic. There anti-popes in the Catholic Church. The bishops are in the the position to admonish and resist a heretical pope. Remember St. Paul admonishing St. Peter.
@gegaoli
@gegaoli 12 күн бұрын
“If a future Pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him.” Pope Pius IX
@coolcatbaron
@coolcatbaron 12 күн бұрын
People would be better off reading the Catechism and actually understanding theb position of their own church, instead of blaming Vatican 2.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Martin Luther taught that we should embrace excommunication and Vigano had this in his manifesto. I believe it was item 24.
@voyager7
@voyager7 13 күн бұрын
Context is a thing.
@johnbrion4565
@johnbrion4565 13 күн бұрын
Thanks for explaining this situation
@justinsellers6317
@justinsellers6317 12 күн бұрын
What message does it send when priest who have done much worse go unpunished? It says that tradition is the only sin punished by the Vatican. The dogma of the Papacy is the weakness of the Roman Church.
@gach87
@gach87 13 күн бұрын
Our Lord told us that the spirit will guide the church to truth. I can't understand why all the fuss about "traditions" that doesn't have anything to do with dogmas. The gates of hell will not prevail against it. 2000 years and counting.
@velkyn1
@velkyn1 13 күн бұрын
2000+ years of absolute failure for your cult's lies.
@Phoenixmagnus
@Phoenixmagnus 13 күн бұрын
​@velkyn1 The bible was given through that cult of lies, So you using a book canonized by an erroneous church according to you then the bible has errors. 👌
@randycarson9812
@randycarson9812 13 күн бұрын
@@Phoenixmagnus The response will be that the ROMAN Catholic Church took over the true Church. And even put true Christians to death. blah, blah, blah.
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 13 күн бұрын
The Church require us to believe in Christ in Scripture and Tradition.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 13 күн бұрын
​@@Phoenixmagnus don't hold your breath for an answer😂
@KateMcnamee-uz7wu
@KateMcnamee-uz7wu 13 күн бұрын
JD Catholic gave a great example with the teacher when we stand before God at judgment" that's not fair I wasn't nearly as disrespectful to my parents as my brother was I have to go to purgatory too!"
@anaclararodas4833
@anaclararodas4833 11 күн бұрын
Fully agreed!
@anaclararodas4833
@anaclararodas4833 11 күн бұрын
Fully agreed!
@Tara-zq3il
@Tara-zq3il 13 күн бұрын
you can write to the Vatican but the Curia won't necessarily pass it on
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
I would like to write to the Curia and call on them to study what Archbishop Vigano has said in depth. Instead of excommunicating with an invalid trial.
@lindseyclark8725
@lindseyclark8725 2 күн бұрын
A balanced summary, thankyou
@johnfisher247
@johnfisher247 12 күн бұрын
As we know St Paul opposed St Peter to his face for his hypocrisy. Vigano is an Archbishop and has a duty to speak in accordance with his office and to call out abuses in the Church. Vigano has spoken immoderately and extremely. Yet the glaring failures, promotion of men whose moral and dissent fron dogma like Hollerich, Tobin, Sancheta, pro abortion members of the JPII institute of life, Tucho and removal of men like Sarah, Burke, Mueller, Pachamana, the promotion of ambiguity, homosexuality which feeds into decadence and clergy sexual corruption and the lavender mafia, the lifting of Rupnick's excommunication for sexual depravity and sacrilege on and on has all been the cause of Vigano's hostility. This pontificate has been a terrible one of a pooe who does not grasp his role and fosters corruption while claiming he doesn't. When opposition arises he doesn't listen but bullies and uses his claimed power to coerce. Vigano is a sign Pope Francis and the Modernists have crosses numerous lines. Joseph Ratzinger. In The Spirit of the Liturgy (2000), Ratzinger writes: "After the Second Vatican Council, the impression arose that the pope really could do anything in liturgical matters, especially if he were acting on the mandate of an ecumenical council. Eventually, the idea of the givenness of the liturgy, the fact that one cannot do with it what one will, faded from the public consciousness of the West. In fact, the First Vatican Council had in no way defined the pope as an absolute monarch. On the contrary, it presented him as the guarantor of obedience to the revealed Word. The pope’s authority is bound to the Tradition of faith, and that also applies to the liturgy. It is not “manufactured” by the authorities. Even the pope can only be a humble servant of its lawful development and abiding integrity and identity.... The authority of the pope is not unlimited; it is at the service of Sacred Tradition." Benedict XVI takes up the same theme in 2005, in his first papal homily at St. John Lateran: "The power that Christ conferred upon Peter and his Successors is, in an absolute sense, a mandate to serve. The power of teaching in the Church involves a commitment to the service of obedience to the Faith. The pope is not an absolute monarch whose thoughts and desires are law. On the contrary: the pope’s ministry is a guarantee of obedience to Christ and to his Word. He must not proclaim his own ideas, but rather constantly bind himself and the Church to obedience to God’s Word, in the face of every attempt to adapt it or water it down, and every form of opportunism. … The pope knows that in his important decisions, he is bound to the great community of faith of all times, to the binding interpretations that have developed throughout the Church’s pilgrimage. Thus, his power is not being above the Word of God, but at the service of it. It is incumbent upon him to ensure that this Word continues to be present in its greatness and to resound in its purity, so that it is not torn to pieces by continuous changes in usage." Pope Francis is a Pope who violates the above. He doesn't guard and pass on what numerous other popes has taught but distorts. While declaring popes illegitimate is beyond Catholics authority. Pope Francis has a great deal to answer for. I pray God may deliver us!
@allanrmos6488
@allanrmos6488 3 күн бұрын
but st. paul did not touch the key of peter..
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 6 сағат бұрын
A lot of people are overlooking the abuse of the keys of Peter. Unlike what Benedict taught, they are now being used to silence a whistleblower and to serve as an alibi for scandal.
@averyvery18
@averyvery18 11 күн бұрын
Pray pray pray. Pray for our Church and all the clergies. May God's will be done🙏
@italiantraditionalcatholic2390
@italiantraditionalcatholic2390 3 күн бұрын
The Concillar Church IS NOT the church
@johnflorio3576
@johnflorio3576 13 күн бұрын
I drank the Viganò punch at first. Yes, he made many great points. But, in the end, his denial of Francis as Pope is excommunicable.
@gardnert1
@gardnert1 13 күн бұрын
Denying the Pope is legitimate is NOT an excommunicable offence. His reasoning is that Pope Francis is a heretic, and so he would have no choice but to reject communion with him. We are not required to believe whatever the Pope says, and if he says something that rejects established dogma, then he is indeed a heretic. Heresy an schism are two different things. To call Vigano a schismatic is simply wrong based on what the term means. Vigano isn't calling for a different dogma to be followed, which is what schism would be. Nor is the Pope a schismatic when he say previously established dogma is wrong (that's heresy). Vigano could be argued to be many things, but schismatic is not one.
@daninspiration4064
@daninspiration4064 12 күн бұрын
@@gardnert1 sorry you are wrong on this just admit it
@eabm1984
@eabm1984 12 күн бұрын
Yeah, Vigano was always in the wrong.
@marcuslow1386
@marcuslow1386 11 күн бұрын
He did more than deny Pope Francis.He was playing 2 face on the Maccarick case.
@gardnert1
@gardnert1 11 күн бұрын
@@marcuslow1386 My point is that denying the Pope is legitimate is not an excommunicable offense. People have done that forever. It's not schismatic or blasphemous, it's just an opinion. In his case, he says it because of the way Pope Francis was selected was erroneous. He also says that Francis is a heretic for denying previously established dogma. There are veins of truth in his opinion there. But he's not in trouble because of that.
@italiantraditionalcatholic2390
@italiantraditionalcatholic2390 3 күн бұрын
Throughout the ages within Tradition (true church) all the Holy popes reiterated the main premise against every heresy, "Teach nothing new" and "No (new) Innovations. "
@Church888
@Church888 13 күн бұрын
Will Taylor Marshall swoop in and save him?
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
I hope so!!!
@user-qg8cj4zh5r
@user-qg8cj4zh5r 13 күн бұрын
I am no bishop so I can not speak on a bishops stance, that judgement is between him and God and God has the ultimate say. What I do know for sure, is that there are dark powers at hand IN the Vatican and the Good and evil are both fighting for power ,essentially, over the Holy See. I wish I researched this earlier and more to make a complete decision on how I feel about Francis. What no one can doubt or neglect, is that Pope Benedict ordained A LOT of new good Cardinals from humbler, poorer nations to combat the evil,political, power hungry people at the highest levels…..he knew he was on the way out whether he liked it or not but he made sure the Church had a chance to persevere
@ionidhunedoara1491
@ionidhunedoara1491 Күн бұрын
I wonder what Master Jan Hus would have replied to the priest's statement about schism being bad while undergoing martyrdom. For every murderous inquisition there has always been a Hussite.
@charlottelauzon3147
@charlottelauzon3147 12 күн бұрын
When I hear the claim of “what about the others…” it appears so adolescent and your analogy is spot on! Thank you!
@66605
@66605 Күн бұрын
One wonders why Francis would excommunicate anyone? In his 2/2/2022 papal audience he claimed "no one can exclude themselves from the Church" and that even apostates belong to the communion of saints. What does an excommunication from Francis mean?
@RealPJ
@RealPJ 13 күн бұрын
All must submit to Rome
@louisvega-oe2sc
@louisvega-oe2sc 13 күн бұрын
Why submit to Rome, when one should be submitting to Christ?.....
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 13 күн бұрын
All must submit to Christ. Including Rome.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
@@louisvega-oe2sc Because to be Catholic we are to submit to the pope. This is Canon Law 751. Submitting to Christ is done by submitting to the pope per Luke 10:16. The pope cannot lead souls to hell or teach heresy or the gates of hell have prevailed against the church per Matthew 16:18-19. Vigano is being excommunicted because he turned sedevacantist, he denied Pope Francis was the pope. One cannot submit to a pope they do not believe is the pope. What you are saying, submitting to Christ, is Protestantism. This allows you to define what submitting to Christ means and thus you would be making yourself pope.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
@@timothyjackson4653 Pope Francis submits to Christ. The church applies Luke 10:16 to the pope, "He who hears you hears me." This is Catholic traditional teaching and is seen in the Sixth and Eight Ecumenical Councils, Trent, Vatican I and Vatican II. This is the very basis for the pope being able to be infallible. If he can teach heresy, he cannot ever teach infallibly and is no different than a Protestant minister.
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 13 күн бұрын
@@paulmualdeave5063 The rules on their own do not constitute an alibi.
@anaclararodas4833
@anaclararodas4833 11 күн бұрын
Great video! Shout stronger for the one on the back!
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 13 күн бұрын
Little bit of schadenfreude for Matt Fradd too.
@jabelltulsa
@jabelltulsa 13 күн бұрын
Agreed, and thanks for the new word.
@ml48218
@ml48218 10 күн бұрын
What happened to all the accompaniment Mercy and synodalty
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
We must demand the Vatican answer the questions and standing of Archbishop Vigano. JD do you know whats happening. When will you listen to what Vigano says?
@daninspiration4064
@daninspiration4064 12 күн бұрын
vigano speaks in a prideful manner very similar to fr Altman. If they are ex communicated I would not disagree with the decision.
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
Do you obey all that Bergoglio says?????
@bbob70
@bbob70 3 күн бұрын
Bergoglio condones James Martin. Do you agree with that?
@Nathan-vv8zz
@Nathan-vv8zz 7 күн бұрын
Idc about the vigano issue. But Francis is a way bigger issue for all Catholics. For God’s sake the man is abusing his power and trying to abrogate the old Mass, which of course he doesn’t have the authority to do. No priest needs permission to say the old Mass! Is Francis even Catholic??
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
Francis is not Catholic, he excommunicated himself before 2005.
@BCATO
@BCATO 13 күн бұрын
Papa Francis W
@paulrino2531
@paulrino2531 10 күн бұрын
Let us continue to pray for Pope Francis, the successor of St. Peter. May God give him good health and long life to lead the church.
@J-PLeigh8409
@J-PLeigh8409 13 күн бұрын
So unfortunate....Saint Paul warns of Dissension several times & Christ our Lord prays in John 17 that we are to be one as the Lord Himself, the Son of God is One w/ the Father. Those who condemn or don't accept the Pope, they are Dissenting Protestants & not Catholic
@andrewrolwes6034
@andrewrolwes6034 12 күн бұрын
Perhaps you missed the passage in Galatians where St. Paul discusses his dispute with St. Peter and says that he was to be blamed, Galatians 2:11? Does criticizing the Pope and questioning the consistently horrendous decisions he makes now make you a Protestant?
@J-PLeigh8409
@J-PLeigh8409 12 күн бұрын
@@andrewrolwes6034 say what? Do you not understand Catholic doctrine & Dogma? If the Pope says something that is not ex cathedra, speaking infallibly, you can disagree, such as in an interview. Maybe read my comment over
@user-tv6vv5rb8v
@user-tv6vv5rb8v 8 күн бұрын
A couple of doctors of canon law have told us that this man is not a pope. What is your level of study in that field to be able to competently judge us and them or are you just stampeding with the herd? It's true that that play often works out well enough but there were plenty of cases in church history where it didn't. A person who thoughtfully considers historical events of the last few decades should be able to see that some sketchy things have happened with Vatileaks, with the pedophilia and seminarian abuse scandals, cocaine orgies hosted by cardinals who are still actively serving Bergoglio. Bergoglio being best friends with an alleged child trafficker whose main witness was murdered two weeks before she could testify. There are clearly criminal elements at play and it is not likely they followed all the rules in their lust for power.
@benjaminebrinkley7233
@benjaminebrinkley7233 10 күн бұрын
The Only thing that Vigano has done is tell the truth its Francis and the other bishops with few exceptions that are causing confusion and Disunity. Vigano has done nothing wrong .
@lenk8374
@lenk8374 13 күн бұрын
You are one of the best new Catholic channels on KZfaq. Appreciate you
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
I believe JD is the worst. Spewing out what St. Pius X condemned, the heresy of Modernism.
@exercisethemind
@exercisethemind 3 күн бұрын
"Devil" from the Greek diabolos can be translated as "to divide" or "to throw against". In contrast, Christ called us to UNITY, "that they may all be one, as you, Father, are in me and I in you, that they also may be in us, that the world may believe that you sent me." Catholics must stay strong in our love of God and obedience to the Magesterium. Reject the arrogance and schism of self-appointed authorities who sow division in the Church!
@vivacristorey4363
@vivacristorey4363 3 күн бұрын
When people say that schism and defiance is justified because of "complex times", run the other way. Schism is a sin. Such justification cannot be used for any sin. If a monk takes a vow of poverty, he cannot hoard gold because of the complexities of our times. Breaking his vow is considered a sacrilege in addition to greed. Likewise, the vow of obedience needs to be seen in the same light. Breaking it is a sacrilege. We cannot be asked to sin because we must be obedient to God first. But all these people breaking their vows have not been asked by their leaders to sin. They have fallen into a deception of self-righteousness and pride. God help them and us all.
@lo5182
@lo5182 3 күн бұрын
I stand with the Vicar of Christ! Long Live Christ the KIng! Down with Schismatics!
@apocryphanow
@apocryphanow 12 күн бұрын
What would a bishop expect to accomplish by going up against a pope? The bishop knows he doesn't have the same authority. So what is it supposed to lead to?
@JohnS-jj9by
@JohnS-jj9by 11 күн бұрын
There have been many bishops who have asked privately for Pope Francis for clarity on many issues with no success. Very sad.
@malardjm
@malardjm 11 күн бұрын
One question this video doesn't address is WHO is creating division? Because surely it matters, whether it is Archbishop Vigano or Pope Francis who has created division by making contradictory statements.
@aldomosti3695
@aldomosti3695 Күн бұрын
Archbishop Vigano has been excommunicated from THE BERGOLIAN CHURCH! No problem! He is still OUR Archbishop Vigano in the TRUE CATHOLIC CHURCH. WE IN AMERICA LOVE OUR ARCHBISHOP VIGANO!
@videonmode8649
@videonmode8649 13 күн бұрын
Unfortunately my dad was caught up in Vigano's anti-globalist spiel and all his opinions that went against the covid narrative. That also included unsavory comments about Pope Francis to which my dad started to agree with.
@truthnotlies
@truthnotlies 11 күн бұрын
Oh so your dad was smart during the paaaaaanDeMiC then? Lol
@videonmode8649
@videonmode8649 10 күн бұрын
@@truthnotlies Excuse you?
@Mutasis_Mutandis
@Mutasis_Mutandis 6 күн бұрын
Team Dad!
@Nilunam
@Nilunam Күн бұрын
The sensible catholic should stand firm with the legitimate successor of Saint Peter on whom Jesus built His Church rather than following a Martin Luther II.
@godfreydebouillon8807
@godfreydebouillon8807 13 күн бұрын
As a non Catholic, I sort of disagree to an extent. I think there's an important concept of Equal Justice under the law, and if you're applying punishment to some, and not to others, for whatever reason (often it's political), then you lose a lot of legitimacy in the court of the public. Unless there's some obvious reason like "there's so many people committing this offense, we can only feasibly deal with a small percentage". Technically, it seems to me that the Bishop is clearly in the wrong, however, if they aren't excommunicating people for the same or similar offenses,then any curious and rational person will wonder why. Well... why?
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 13 күн бұрын
Law, or canon law?
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Courts cannot hold trial on everyone at once and Vigano is a huge voice to radical traditionalists in their own schismatic beliefs.
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
Vigano has started an illicit seminary, sent priests into the territory of other bishops, was reordained by sedevacantists... Yeah Vigano is a huge problem
@pkmr5284
@pkmr5284 13 күн бұрын
Who believes we are in The End Times? What will happen in The End Times? One-World Religion? Does it look like The Holy Catholic Church is flailing? Should we be "concerned"? Is ABP Vigano "concerned" about this? Why?
@Kristopher-Christbearer
@Kristopher-Christbearer 12 күн бұрын
There's always been disciples of satan like vigano in church history
@bellottibellotti9185
@bellottibellotti9185 8 күн бұрын
Francis is undermining francis is
@edukaeshn
@edukaeshn 9 күн бұрын
They are misusing the term Magisterium.
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 13 күн бұрын
Is this a matter of accountability or bigotry? The magisterial authority of the Holy See is not intended to provide impunity in scandal.
@jineshfrancis
@jineshfrancis 13 күн бұрын
The Pope, Bishop of Rome and Peter’s successor, “is the perpetual and visible source and foundation of the unity both of the bishops and of the whole company of the faithful . For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as *Vicar of Christ* , and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church (pope is *plenipotentiary* means "fullness of power"), a power which he can always exercise unhindered". "pope cannot be a heretic" is the centuries old teaching of the catholic church. Vigano forgotten the oath he took in his ordination... The oath of obedience... This is the reason for Vigano's excommunication
@timothyjackson4653
@timothyjackson4653 13 күн бұрын
⁠@@jineshfrancisall of that does not constitute an alibi for Pope Francis forgetting his vows
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 12 күн бұрын
​@@timothyjackson4653what does a prot like you care anyway?
@bbob70
@bbob70 3 күн бұрын
This Pope condemns Vigano and everybody who stands for tradition but then turns around and praises James Martin, can you make sense of that?
@hervedavidh4117
@hervedavidh4117 12 күн бұрын
Schism is worse than heresy.
@andrewangelopacheco9960
@andrewangelopacheco9960 3 күн бұрын
To think the anti-Pope is a heretic, schismatic, and Apostate. And we are called by some to obey him, if I did that I would be damned to hell.
@adrianrehak8585
@adrianrehak8585 8 күн бұрын
I apparently have missed Vigano's denial of Francis being the Pope. If he has, I disagree with him on that. However, I disagree with JD and Fradd being okay with the double standards by Pope Francis where his buddies can promote evil but if you oppose his heretical statements you are penalized. Why are James Martin and Rupnik encouraged to promote and/or commit sin against the 6th Commandment and that is fine with Pope Francis? By supporting such sin, isn't such support itself sinful? One example of what looks like heresy by Pope Francis is when he said God wanted many religions. How can that be true when Jesus prayed for unity in His Church? Not a heresy, but how can Pope Francis claim Biden and Pelosy are "good Catholics" when they promote murder by abortion and IVF? Prayers for all the above!
@gegaoli
@gegaoli 9 күн бұрын
Is Francis a heretic?
@MaxxKevin-fv4nu
@MaxxKevin-fv4nu 3 күн бұрын
He can start his own church as a pastor outside the catholic; we don't care. You cannot be in Catholic and not recognize the leader Pope Francis.
@wmonger
@wmonger 13 күн бұрын
Sadly, Pope Francis ingores the teachings of the "Catholic" religion while trying to stay politically correct. Choose Hot or Cold, but don't be luke warm. I have to stand with Vigano.
@Kristopher-Christbearer
@Kristopher-Christbearer 12 күн бұрын
Heresy. Bye. Better repent asap
@drc1989
@drc1989 12 күн бұрын
Sadly, your comment is so untrue. I stand with the Catholic Church. Vigano always has the option to repent and will always be welcomed back, as well as his followers.
@eabm1984
@eabm1984 12 күн бұрын
You are not Catholic.
@eabm1984
@eabm1984 12 күн бұрын
Vigano ignored his duties and was friends with McCarrick, then tries to shift blame to the Pope. Also, misinformed and lied about the Pope
@janetkrulock1971
@janetkrulock1971 11 күн бұрын
The pope is woke
@JPGoertz
@JPGoertz 11 күн бұрын
Nobody pretends everything is fine. Just like we should not pretend all is bad. The Church is the Body of Christ, which bears the sins of the world. And the worst thing we can do is to judge each other, but we need to call each other to the Gospel. Vigano has said many important things. But openly accusing the Pope as basically being satan or the like. Even as a conservative Catholic I have not sympathy for that.
@andrefouche9682
@andrefouche9682 13 күн бұрын
In fifty years nobody will know who Vigano was but the Pope will be famous all over the world.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Yes, Pope Francis may well one day be a saint. There are already possible miracles.
@davidmyhra4931
@davidmyhra4931 13 күн бұрын
Pope Francis will be declared an anti-pope not a saint
@A-ARonYeager
@A-ARonYeager 13 күн бұрын
​@@davidmyhra4931how
@LifeHappens-xu8pg
@LifeHappens-xu8pg 13 күн бұрын
Or infamous all over the world, as for Archbishop Vigano, he may be a saint in the making. Only God knows.
@andrefouche9682
@andrefouche9682 12 күн бұрын
@@LifeHappens-xu8pg Never heard of a schismatic saint.
@carminelombardi9575
@carminelombardi9575 3 күн бұрын
Sad to see your making a false claim that this decision came from the Majestiarium of the church, rather it came from the Dicastery for the Doctrine of the Faith, this is a huge difference. The Majestiarium is the Bishops In communion with the Pope, the bishops collectively hold teaching authority. This includes bishops in their dioceses and as part of ecumenical councils. I need to call out non theologians make false statements.
@ssezlm
@ssezlm 13 күн бұрын
St. Athanasius was also excommunicated. Now a saint.
@fre7717
@fre7717 13 күн бұрын
i don't see any evidence of this. he was critical of the emperor and was exiled. when the emperor died, he returned and then was again exiled by the emperor's son. pope Julius wrote on his behalf, but couldn't convince the emperor.
@brotherandrew3393
@brotherandrew3393 13 күн бұрын
Not true. St. Athanasius was NOT excommunicated.
@Phoenixmagnus
@Phoenixmagnus 13 күн бұрын
Incorrect he was deposed and sent into exile by the Arians but not excommunicated
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Vigano will never be a saint. Read the McCarrick report. He enabled McCarrick for years before Pope Francis was pope and then blamed Pope Francis for everything he did. He also tried to steal $2,000,000 inheritance from his brother after this father died and had to be sued to get the money.
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
Why do you bear false witness?
@bellottibellotti9185
@bellottibellotti9185 8 күн бұрын
You are mixing everything up
@TheFirstManticore
@TheFirstManticore 13 күн бұрын
As a sensible Catholic, I plan to continue practicing my faith as usual at the present time. I do consider Pope Francis to be a wicked pope, but not the first wicked pope. The first in nearly 600 years. I have not been in the position of having to disobey the pope. I even obeyed the diosecan bishop when he said we could not enter the church building without an injection of a product of abortion. I stayed outside. I didn't want anybody to think I had taken that injection. So I can, perhaps, relate to Vigano's position. He may have more information about the legitimacy of Pope Francis than I do. At least he thinks he does. I might do the same in his position. I don't know.
@springinfialta106
@springinfialta106 13 күн бұрын
Most of the earlier "evil" popes were bad when it came to personal morals but were okay when it came to reaffirming the true Magisterium of the Church. Francis is evil the other way around.
@springinfialta106
@springinfialta106 13 күн бұрын
How many years before we're all supposed to believe that married lesbian priestesses are allowed by the Magisterium?
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
Stop the delusion
@BruceW-b3d
@BruceW-b3d 11 күн бұрын
You are an excellent Catholic podcaster and I always appreciate you content and introspection!
@thebigeazye3000
@thebigeazye3000 8 күн бұрын
I stand with Archbishop Carlo Maria Vigano. The church has been captured by the AC.
@MrKurmann
@MrKurmann 13 күн бұрын
There is 1 Pope at any 1 time. Vigano should know where he belongs, but perhaps he may be trying to break up the Church.
@springinfialta106
@springinfialta106 13 күн бұрын
At one time there were there popes. At some times there were no popes.
@Maryismymom2
@Maryismymom2 11 күн бұрын
Taylor Marshall needs to be the next one who is ex communicated.
@gegaoli
@gegaoli 13 күн бұрын
“If a future Pope teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow him.” Pope Pius IX
@nathanbustamante1525
@nathanbustamante1525 13 күн бұрын
This quote is not authentic. It's fake. Unless you can produce the source?
@gegaoli
@gegaoli 13 күн бұрын
@@nathanbustamante1525 The source is the Pope (Letter to Bishop Brizen). Is the quote somehow controversial?
@nenabunena
@nenabunena 12 күн бұрын
​@@gegaolihe does not teach anything contrary to the Faith, your heart is just too full of malice and evil that you project yourself unto him and take everything he says out of context to fit your agenda. Your problem is the pope is not a rich wasp American republican
@nathanbustamante1525
@nathanbustamante1525 12 күн бұрын
@@gegaoli Yes it is controversial because you're using a fake quote to justify dissent from the magisterium. Can't even find a reference to bishop brizen other than to say he doesn't exist.
@gegaoli
@gegaoli 12 күн бұрын
@@nathanbustamante1525 Do you have a brain? It’s obvious you disagree with the statement. And I provided the source so continue to follow the father of lies all you want. My quote “If anyone teaches anything contrary to the Catholic Faith, do not follow them.”
@user-tz8el7tk7z
@user-tz8el7tk7z 11 күн бұрын
Taylor Marshall is doing the church a disservice with his YT channel
@junacebedo888
@junacebedo888 12 күн бұрын
"Get behind me, Vigano" Matthew 16 verse 23
@davidmyhra4931
@davidmyhra4931 13 күн бұрын
Francis loves schismatics. He allows them to say mass in his cathedral and has a statue of Martin Luther
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
Why do you bear false witness? Why do you follow that slanderer Taylor Marshall? The statue of Luther is from 2016, and a gift from the Lutherans that visited the Vatican. To say "Pope Francis has a statue of Martial Luther" is one of the most bad faith arguments one could say. Please repent, and believe the Gospel.
@Kristopher-Christbearer
@Kristopher-Christbearer 12 күн бұрын
You need to repent for ur lies
@truthnotlies
@truthnotlies 11 күн бұрын
​@@rouxmain934 the Lutheran's brought a statue of Luther for the Vatican? 😂 Talk about not reading the room right....
@petertherock7340
@petertherock7340 12 күн бұрын
The question is, Is Pope Francis a legitimate pope? Is his Magisterium legitimate? To be excommunicated on invalid authority is not a true excommunication. 😊😊😊
@rouxmain934
@rouxmain934 12 күн бұрын
That's absolutely delusional. Francis is a true Pope, and whoever says otherwise cannot be trusted.
@petertherock7340
@petertherock7340 12 күн бұрын
@@rouxmain934 Says who? So was Pope John XII…. 🤔. Personally, I don’t trust homosexuals wearing Roman collars and vestments…. 👍
@petertherock7340
@petertherock7340 12 күн бұрын
@@rouxmain934 “The Dictator Pope” by Marcantonio Colonna 👍
@michaelblair5566
@michaelblair5566 13 күн бұрын
I've replaced my prayer for Francis with a prayer for Archbishop Vigano.
@Fiddleslip
@Fiddleslip 13 күн бұрын
Vigano certainly needs prayers more than Pope Francis does, what with the schism, sedevacantism, and how he failed to investigate credible accusations against McCarrick when he was Nuncio to the US.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Why didn't you pray for both? There is a severe problem if you believe Vigano is in the right. Please go on the Vatican Website and read the McCarrick Report. You might find it interesting. It talks a lot of what Vigano did and didn't do. It's very interesting in light of his accusations against Pope Francis. I'll give you a clue, Vigano was the one who enabled McCarrick before Pope Francis was pope. If you support what Vigano has done you need to refrain from taking the Eucharist because you would not be in full communion with the church. And if you believe as Vigano does, you have even more serious problems to sort out because that moves away from not being in full communion to schism. Actual Catholics do not defend what Vigano has said.
@joannekrause5240
@joannekrause5240 13 күн бұрын
Please pray for this pope. He needs every prayer to be a good pope.🙏🙏🙏
@Fiddleslip
@Fiddleslip 13 күн бұрын
"Despite Cardinal Ouellet’s instruction that Nuncio Viganò “reply to [Priest 3], requesting that he clarify his accusations against the aforementioned ecclesiastics in order to determine their truth or lack thereof,” Viganò never contacted Priest 3. In an interview, Priest 3 stated, “I never received a reply and I was waiting for one.” Priest 3 explained: I was always waiting and thinking that [Viganò] was going to contact me. But he never contacted me. I had written the letter so I knew that I had provided him the information. But he never contacted me back. I felt that he should have responded to me because I explained that I had been mistreated." "In addition, notwithstanding Priest 3’s offer to provide Nuncio Viganò with “my evaluation from the Advent Program, my legal filings and any other documentation I have to support the information I have provided in this letter,” Viganò did not request any documents in Priest 3’s possession, including the legal filings from the New Jersey court case, nor did he obtain these filings from the court, the Diocese of Metuchen or the Archdiocese of Newark. As a result, the civil complaint - which detailed the three s*xual incidents with McCarrick - was not received by the Nunciature or the Holy See until late 2018, when it was requested by Nunciature personnel from the Archdiocese of Newark. Viganò also did not request or receive the “certification” signed by Priest 3 under penalty of law in March 2012, which likewise described the three s*xual encounters with McCarrick.1188 Priest 3’s certification is the first known signed statement by a victim accusing McCarrick of s*xual misconduct, but because Viganò did not request any documentation offered to him by Priest 3, Holy See officials never saw the certification during this period and, indeed, not until well after McCarrick’s dismissal from the clerical state." Excerpts from pages 385 &386 of the 2020 McCarrick report. Considering how hard he dropped the ball, Vigano certainly does need your prayers.
@Fiddleslip
@Fiddleslip 13 күн бұрын
"Despite Cardinal Ouellet’s instruction that Nuncio Viganò “reply to [Priest 3], requesting that he clarify his accusations against the aforementioned ecclesiastics in order to determine their truth or lack thereof,” Viganò never contacted Priest 3. In an interview, Priest 3 stated, “I never received a reply and I was waiting for one.” Priest 3 explained: I was always waiting and thinking that [Viganò] was going to contact me. But he never contacted me. I had written the letter so I knew that I had provided him the information. But he never contacted me back. I felt that he should have responded to me because I explained that I had been mistreated." "In addition, notwithstanding Priest 3’s offer to provide Nuncio Viganò with “my evaluation from the Advent Program, my legal filings and any other documentation I have to support the information I have provided in this letter,” Viganò did not request any documents in Priest 3’s possession, including the legal filings from the New Jersey court case, nor did he obtain these filings from the court, the Diocese of Metuchen or the Archdiocese of Newark. As a result, the civil complaint - which detailed the three s*xual incidents with McCarrick - was not received by the Nunciature or the Holy See until late 2018, when it was requested by Nunciature personnel from the Archdiocese of Newark. Viganò also did not request or receive the “certification” signed by Priest 3 under penalty of law in March 2012, which likewise described the three s*xual encounters with McCarrick.1188 Priest 3’s certification is the first known signed statement by a victim accusing McCarrick of s*xual misconduct, but because Viganò did not request any documentation offered to him by Priest 3, Holy See officials never saw the certification during this period and, indeed, not until well after McCarrick’s dismissal from the clerical state." Excerpts from pages 385 &386 of the 2020 McCarrick report. Vigano certainly does need your prayers.
@velkyn1
@velkyn1 13 күн бұрын
Great to see the cult splintering yet again. It's always fun when not one of these failures can show that their version is any better than the rest.
@Ajas0810
@Ajas0810 13 күн бұрын
Yea a bishop disagreeing with magisterium is a little different than 40000 different denominations all claiming to have the truth.
@Phoenixmagnus
@Phoenixmagnus 13 күн бұрын
Says the gut who's church can't even evangelize a whole block using our Bible.
@johnkolinofsky5574
@johnkolinofsky5574 13 күн бұрын
@@Ajas081046,000 and counting.
@paulmualdeave5063
@paulmualdeave5063 13 күн бұрын
Catholicism never claimed that everyone was a saint. You don't even sound Christian. You do not hate Catholicism. You only hate what you think Catholicism is. It's the illogical thought process called eisegisis. You create definitions of our beliefs for us and then judge us a cult based on your creation. The bible calls this bearing false witness and slander.
@terrysaunders1269
@terrysaunders1269 13 күн бұрын
Sad to see someone who claims to be Christian harbor hatred and express joy at the sufferings of others. Maybe you just reacted without thinking. I hope that is the case. For your sake.
@Justas399
@Justas399 13 күн бұрын
Like the cults, the roman catholic fears the internet because rome cannot keep its sins out of the public eye.
@allenh.7373
@allenh.7373 13 күн бұрын
Wow, owned. Close the internet folks, its over.
@Phoenixmagnus
@Phoenixmagnus 13 күн бұрын
Oh no what shall we do, to which of the many supposed true churches that do not know who Jesus is, go to.
@allenh.7373
@allenh.7373 13 күн бұрын
@@Phoenixmagnus Don't worry, I'm sure well find the sinless one that this guy belongs to.
@Justas399
@Justas399 13 күн бұрын
@@Phoenixmagnus we can eliminate the rcc from your list that does not know Christ.
@wolfthequarrelsome504
@wolfthequarrelsome504 13 күн бұрын
Ah yes, Google "church scandals" and in a deluge of delight almost all of the headers will declare "the Catholic church" or the"Roman Catholic Church" to be the sole culprit. It takes some patience to tolerate people who use Google to inform their views.
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