Mikasa Ackerman Is A TERRIBLE Character | Attack on Titan Analysis

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Monkfruit

Monkfruit

Жыл бұрын

Mikasa Ackerman is one of the coolest, strongest fighters in shonen, but her character leaves much to be desired. In this video I break down her character and explain why for me, it falls kind of flat. Hope you enjoy this Mikasa analysis!

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@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
lmk what yall think in the comments. very happy to discuss if y'all (politely) disagree :) idt i'm going to be responding to comments that are rude however
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
Well... that is exactly why 138-139 chapters sucks balls, but im not sure you are a manga reader so dont want to spoil mutch
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
@@user-fp3in2kf3b i am indeed a manga reader! however I will ask that you refrain from posting spoilers in the comments as I don't want any anime onlys to read and be spoiled :) i def share your dislike for 138-139 though haha. I can't wait for the anime to get there so I can make a video about it
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit Well, without spoilers - i think plot in 138-139 come out nowhere and it literaly kill Mikasa whole character arc(evolve from Eren "slave" to new free person)
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
@@user-fp3in2kf3b agree that her shift in motivations wasn't fleshed out well enough or clear enough before those chapters. i do see what they were going for but it could have been executed so much better imo
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit The toss in trash whole plotlines for the sake of 138-139 chapters endind . For example - what difference it make this whole "Mikasa is Hizure Princess" revile? What impact does it have on overall plotline? Answer is - nothing. This was chechov load gun that never shoot
@theforgottenbook7775
@theforgottenbook7775 Жыл бұрын
The moment I hated mikasa was when she told levi "You should have done a better job protecting eren" 5 members of the levi squad died so that eren can run away from the female titan that was such a disrespect to their sacrifice
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl Жыл бұрын
Before that I found her slightly annoying but I still liked her. But when she said that it really made me hate her. That was disrespectful and ungrateful.
@Aesthxtics-
@Aesthxtics- Жыл бұрын
She wasn’t talking about Levi squad. She was blaming Levi for erens capture and Levi squads death. She was saying that, had Levi never left, his squad wouldn’t be dead and eren wouldn’t have been captured. She wasn’t being disrespectful. Instead, she just wanted to let levi know that what was happening could’ve been avoided. That his squads death was his fault and so was erens capture. I’m just restating myself so I’ll move on. What she said in the dub and sub is different. In one, she said, if you’d just done your job, then we wouldn’t be in this situation. Again, she’s not disregarding or disrespecting levi squad’s sacrifice but is saying that they shouldn’t have had to sacrifice themselves because levi should’ve prevented that.
@theforgottenbook7775
@theforgottenbook7775 Жыл бұрын
@@NAME-yg8sl thank you!!!
@theforgottenbook7775
@theforgottenbook7775 Жыл бұрын
@@Aesthxtics- the female titan was already captured when levi left them how was he supposed to know the female titan was going to escape? He didn't leave his squad for a coffee break he left to join erwin help unmask the female titan. None of this is levis squad so mikasa blaming levi for his squads death is still disrespectful and something he definitely doesn't want to hear after losing his friends
@theforgottenbook7775
@theforgottenbook7775 Жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey if you're referring to eren insulting her in season 4, I didn't really care that much to be honest considering everything that has been going on. If you're referring to s1 when eren yelled at mikasa to stop parenting him I did cheer you're right. Eren can take of himself,
@smg3250
@smg3250 Жыл бұрын
There's just something so infuriating about characters who have no will, wants, interests, or opinions. Without Eren, she might as well not exist. Even her sense of self preservation is attached to the need to keep watching over Eren. How, in the midst of impeccable writing, did this happen?
@KT-0
@KT-0 Жыл бұрын
It’s Called WIT studio, in the Manga Mikasa’s Character is way better and actually has inner dialogue but WIT changed most of her actual good dialogue with characters to “Ereh” “Where is Ereh” and even completely disregarded her whole clan mark that Was supposed to be introduced when she was a child by her mother as something passed down for generations but instead WIT chose to make it embroidery that’s why when it gets brought up again in s4 anime it seems random and out of nowhere
@agrimpuriya2585
@agrimpuriya2585 Жыл бұрын
​@@KT-0 That's genuinely a very odd change since all the other characters stayed intact. Though, it's probably not WIT studio's fault as Isayama was keeping a close eye in it's development.
@KT-0
@KT-0 Жыл бұрын
@@agrimpuriya2585 That’s what I thought at first but why would Isayama purposely dumb down one of his most important characters in the show and disregard all her good dialogue and even erase her whole clan symbol, just to bring it up again in season 4 anyway wouldn’t it just be completely disregarded if that’s the case
@yxlans
@yxlans Жыл бұрын
you guys clearly don’t understand mikasas character at allz
@MasatakaEbina
@MasatakaEbina Жыл бұрын
​@@yxlans "EREH" "EREH!!!!!!!". Yeah, we don't understand it.
@capncookjp
@capncookjp 3 ай бұрын
She was simping for him so much that eren even told her to stop
@pinkandbrown7188
@pinkandbrown7188 5 ай бұрын
What I hate about mikasa is the sheer predictability of her character. Yes, I know she's one of the mc so she'll have plot armor, but there has to be a limit to plot armor too. Right from the moment she said "he's glad he doesn't have to leave me now" or something along those lines when eren got accepted into the trainee corp, I KNEW she was going to be annoying as hell. She has a complete lack of respect for other people and thinks that everyone must risk their lives for eren. She's constantly imposing herself not only on eren but also other people, and unfortunately isayama glorifies her insufferable behaviour. She rarely feels any guilt regarding her actions, for her, as long as eren is safe, everything is fine. She's a prime example of how authors mess up characters by investing too much of their personal feelings in them. In the beginning when Shadis is describing her as best in everything, it's pretty clear that isayama wanted her to be this perfect, holier than everyone else model character.
@bushraakther771
@bushraakther771 2 ай бұрын
Described it perfectly
@queenberuthiel5469
@queenberuthiel5469 17 күн бұрын
I may be late with this party and just recently watched AOT but my goodness, you are SO right with her character. She EXIST to be Eren's bodyguard.😂
@SAGEjutsu
@SAGEjutsu 10 күн бұрын
​@@queenberuthiel5469 ohh, you understand what a Characters motivation is . Guess erens mom isn't a good character cuz her whole purpose was to die for him
@SAGEjutsu
@SAGEjutsu 10 күн бұрын
"Isayama glorified mikasa"😮..bro did we watch the same story , Mikasa is literally chastised by multiple characters levi an jean for her behavior (written by isayama). Just cuz there the good guys dosint mean everyone is gonna have completely agreeable characteristic an motivation. Mikasa is a strong solder who saw her family get killed twice while she was weak now her only family is eren who she's overprotective off ...my brother that's a character that's easley understood maybe not liked by all but should be understood.
@solm.6184
@solm.6184 6 ай бұрын
annie is such a better female character than mikasa
@ian.swift.31614
@ian.swift.31614 11 күн бұрын
even historia is.
@PedroLucas-mg5je
@PedroLucas-mg5je 2 күн бұрын
​@@ian.swift.31614 Dude, Historia was much more well-written character and makes a better girlfriend and wife for Eren than Mikasa could ever be!
@amazingcaptor9071
@amazingcaptor9071 10 ай бұрын
Tbh, I never saw Eren and Mikasa as a couple and it just seemed so forced. They gave me more sibling energy than anything but I really wished they gave Mikasa some character development.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
Same
@pmstark10
@pmstark10 7 ай бұрын
Exactly man. Same.
@ZaraBoateng-xu4od
@ZaraBoateng-xu4od 7 ай бұрын
Real.
@lonewolfgamingplus379
@lonewolfgamingplus379 6 ай бұрын
Tell that to fanarts.
@ZaraBoateng-xu4od
@ZaraBoateng-xu4od 6 ай бұрын
@@lonewolfgamingplus379 thats their opinion.
@levi_meme_edit
@levi_meme_edit 4 ай бұрын
I hated mikasa even more when she tried to kill levi in season 3 😡
@silveratlas2706
@silveratlas2706 8 ай бұрын
The scene with Luise was so rage inducing. Why is she such a bit*h for no reason all of a sudden? I don't get it! Apart from beating Reiner in Shiganshina she might as well have not existed in season 3, she is that irrelevant to the plot at that point. She gets some things added to her with the Ackerman clan and the Hazumabito clan, but those plotlines go nowhere and she has no meaningful interactions for a majority of the series. But all of a sudden the ending is all about her?! Why wasn't this built up throughout the story? Why instead did we get all these other interesting developments that go nowhere now because she gets shoehorned into the story in their place? It's one thing to end the story in a way that makes no sense, it's another to disregard all that you have built up to do it for no reason.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
FACTS
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
Louis is literally a fascist from a terrorist movement who almost killed Mikasa in an explosion, stole her scarf and denigrated her by admiring her for things she didn't support(like rumbling) yeah Louise deserved that kind of behaviour from Mikasa and stop your BS she's literally the FMC of Aot obviously she would be important
@user-qx1id1dt8x
@user-qx1id1dt8x 3 ай бұрын
💀
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
​​​@@avid4288 Do you think defending yourself against opression from a country that put people in concentration camps is facist? 😂 Do you like to see Marley turning people into pure titans and making girls get eaten by dogs? Louis is just a soldier defending her country. Idk If you had your brain pluged out while reading like the first 131 chapters but THE ENTRE WORLD declared war against Paradis. And worse mikasa got friends with Annie who killed a lot of inocent people, hipocite. But i guess for a Mikasa fan i cant expect for you to understand this story. Boo hoo she get her scarf stolen Boo hoo This is a proof that You just like to see your Mary Sue Mikasa shouting "Eren"
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Mikasa is Such a pointless character. Literally just exist to be shipped with Eren and sell bodypillows 😂
@Xandtania
@Xandtania Жыл бұрын
As a woman, when I first started watching this show, I was so excited and I thought Mikasa would be my absolute favorite character. And she was, especially during the Battle of Trost. She was determined, she showed emotions, she was fighting for everyone, she showed her strong spirit and she was a badass. And even without knowing her Ackerman blood, for some reason, Mikasa's OPness never felt forced. That's one of the reasons I liked her. I usually don't like OP female characters with no personality other than being badass because it feels so forced to score points with women (if this is the right wording, I don't know, my English isn't that great). But Mikasa wasn't like that, her OPness wasn't her defining trait, it was just part of her. But then we were introduced to other characters like Levi, Hange, Erwin... Jean was showing signs of character development. But Mikasa was just... there. She showed some signs of development like showing more respect to her superiors like Levi or caring about her squadmates like Jean etc. But those were really small steps compared to other characters or compared to the bigger picture. They weren't all that... significant. In season 3, when Ackerman reveal happened I was so excited because at that point I was starting to give up on Mikasa but I hoped this would change things. Imagine being part of a clan like that and finding out there is a possibility of you being related to your Captain and you both sharing some sort of power? Who wouldn't sit down and discuss this?! Well... Mikasa and Levi. Literally... no interactions other than "yo you are an Ackerman, right? Nice, good, me, too, bye". What's really disappointing is, it usually feels like Mikasa has nothing of her own. It's like this anime doesn't allow Mikasa to have her own connections, friends and story. God forbid she sits down and talks to Levi about their clan and bond with him or bond with her squadmates for real. Nope, her entire personality her story her EVERYTHING has to be about Eren. Even her relationship with Armin often felt forced like they were only hanging out because they had a mutual friend. That's why they never felt like a trio to me. So, yes, as a woman, her character really disappoints me. When people praise the female characters in AoT I don't understand why Mikasa is included because they did this girl really dirty. Like, despite loving Eren so much, her love even feels strange sometimes. For example, she talks about this old Eren in Season 4 when Eren didn't really change much at all. I know all about denial but especially in manga it felt like she didn't even know the man she loved and had some weird obsession idk (SPOILERS) At least her freeing herself from her devotion to Eren by killing him and thus freeing Ymir, too is a good way to end her story. She still loves him and that's good, too, but she's also free of that devotion and she can actually love him more "freely" and this is even better. I still love her so much but... like... the wasted potential is pissing me off, apart from just her arc and character development, the fact that she wasn't allowed to have more meaningful interactions with other characters is JUST UGHH
@PartyGoy
@PartyGoy Жыл бұрын
Women suck
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
I consider eren, historia and floch to be a much better trio than EMA cause at least these three have the same goal (to protect the island) and worldview (humanity has to die, so paradis can be saved) until ch 131, even if historia and floch didn't interact with each other on screen. We only saw floch kissing her hand. But these three look good together cause they understand the importance of protecting the place they live in My problem with the main trio is that Mikasa, for example, didn't even share the same dream with eren or armin, from the very beginning, she could careless about seeing the sea or the world. We never saw her being excited about it (only when they got there) or talking about leaving the walls. Common, she joined the scouts only because the boy she was obsessed with did. She didn't have her own goal either Meanwhile, understanding between armin and eren was destroyed after kissing Historia's hand. He was the person who knew his friend better than anyone but didn't even ask how eren felt. He had 3 years for that and we saw no scene with armin being concerned about Eren's state Both ignored his strange words near the ocean and in the shooting scene or his weird behavior in marley. They didn't even try to realize what was going on and why eren became cold in spite of wanting to see the outside world so bad earlier. Both were complete opposites of him and decided to betray their home instead of protecting it together like foster, reiss and yeager did (again, until ch 131) The only thing that makes armin a better friend than mikasa is that I can see chemistry between eren and him and their friendship in seasons 1-3 is incredibly written. But between the mc and mikasa? There is none. Her bond with both boys seems so forced. They have nothing in common except living in shiganshina and being the members of the survey corps
@PartyGoy
@PartyGoy Жыл бұрын
@@annett5 ur ok
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
@@PartyGoy is that a question?
@PartyGoy
@PartyGoy Жыл бұрын
@@annett5 no I just like n agree with what u wrote. U ight
@Momoyue
@Momoyue 7 ай бұрын
Mikasa's character only exists to love Eren and it's sad since she's just reduced to a plot device because of that. Mikasa is only strong to protect Eren. Mikasa only questions Eren's choices in teh final season to act as his conscience. Mikasa only sides with the alliance to try to save Eren. She really does nothing of her own that doesn't somehow involve Eren. Not to mention she's not actually in love with Eren, she's obsessed with Eren. She fell in love with Eren the moment he saved her as a child with absolutely no deeper understanding of his character either than he was kind. Whenever she thinks of Eren, the scene immediately pans to a shot of childhood Eren. In her mind, that is the Eren she loves. This idealized version that she created the night he saved her. When you think about it, she never truly acknowledges the real/present day Eren. Hence why she is so shocked by his apparent change when he abandons her in Marley. She even questions whether she truly saw the "real" Eren at one point. Mikasa even admitted that she just wanted to return to the times during their childhood. She never once saw Eren for who he truly was until it was too late.
@justyouraverageeditor7483
@justyouraverageeditor7483 5 ай бұрын
This, This is completely true in every fucking way and it’s so tragic. I feel so terrible for both her and Yams, Yams clearly wanted to give her a proper arc of her moving on from Eren, but eventually he caved in under the pressure of fanservice and decided to just not even give her a proper arc. This is exactly why the dynamic between them was so toxic, Mikasa is co dependent on Eren, and it’s clear that this isn’t “love” this is obsession at its purest form. It’s exactly what is wrong with modern anime romances, the women is always submissive to the man’s desires, and this leads to some very toxic situations between the two. But of course… The shippers always overlook it, because it’s either their own personal coping mechanism, or just their own twisted vision of love. In fact the “ship” actually inspired me to use Eremika as an example of how NOT to write a romance.
@avid4288
@avid4288 5 ай бұрын
If not for Eren Mikasa's character wouldn't be there in the first place and at the beginning of the series she said herself "There Are Only So Many Lives I Can Value. And I Decided Who Those People Were Six Years Ago." She lost her family at a very young age that's why she tried to hold things that were precious to her but throughout the series that changes she opened herself to others she cared about other people whose name was not Eren and Armin By your logic nobody understood Eren's real character and all other characters were shocked too when Eren left them in marley. Again loving someone is not the same as being obsessed not when throughout the series Eren was always at the center of the storm of course she would be worried when Armin was in danger she was worried about him too and in the final act she literally took the hardest decision and did what needed to be done by killing Eren despite the immense pain it caused her
@agrimpuriya2585
@agrimpuriya2585 Жыл бұрын
Mikasa till season 1 was actually an incredible character, she was protective for Eren but at the same time kept him in check, like when Eren called Armin a coward she punched him. This goes to show her agency, though she is very caring, she is not blinded by her love for Eren. But after season one the amount of dialogue she has outside of battle scenes dropped significantly. And the author started to add more scenes to show her as overprotective. Like the farm scene in season 3 part 1 where Mikasa give a blank stare to Historia for just talking to Eren. The biggest elephant is the room was the table scene in season 4. When Eren insulted Mikasa, in place of standing up for herself or just trying to argue with Eren, she just started crying like a damsel in distress. Season 1 Mikasa would've never behaved like this. After this scene she literally doesn't know what to do and embarrassingly asks Armin what she should do.
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
​@Erik Kemeey they didn't even mention sasha in that scene, common. Besides, if mikasa could stand for armin in season 1 being a 10-year-old girl, in season 4 she should have become a woman able to stand for herself at the age of 19. That's what character development is
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey what a fantasist you are
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey me: not saying anything about historia and talking about Mikasa's character development You: "shipper!" Your interpretation is something else... ErEmIkA sHiPpEr
@annett5
@annett5 Жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey I would agree with you if she didn't kiss him after that and her development wasn't depreciated by the scene in which she dies with his gift on her neck instead of wearing something given by her husband or child Besides, I have no idea what kind of comments you expect to see under such videos, the videos about mikasa being a bad character. You wanna say we are talking here about her awesomeness?
@motor4X4kombat
@motor4X4kombat Ай бұрын
And even then Armin became a dumbass in season 4 that asking him advices is like asking a wall for advierte
@guardianoftime2
@guardianoftime2 10 ай бұрын
lol but in the manga she's not even the one that tells historia to punch levi
@rebelfighter5249
@rebelfighter5249 6 ай бұрын
Mikasa is named after a Japanese battleship, but the acutal ship has more purpose and function than Mikasa's character. She never really changes much and actually regresses back to the codependent simp who's spiritually married to Eren.
@cerene11
@cerene11 Жыл бұрын
In the manga it wasn't Mikasa who told Historia to punch Levi, it was the Reeves guy (his scenes were cut in the anime version).
@coltwgrice
@coltwgrice Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on this. To me, she just became boring and uninterested and I don't care what people say, telling me about the lore with that scarf and her attachment to Eren still doesn't buy me. I did like her in the Trost arc, she felt like an actual character.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
Same
@avid4288
@avid4288 5 ай бұрын
She's still an actual character and one of the most important characters in the final act
@jimmy3261
@jimmy3261 4 ай бұрын
@@avid4288That’s part of the problem tho. She was a bland self-insert character for most of the show, which is why her being the most important character in the final act is such a cheap copout that didn’t feel earned. Plus, it came at the cost of the already established lore surrounding Eren and Founder Ymir (to you & from you 2000 years ago plotline).
@avid4288
@avid4288 4 ай бұрын
@@jimmy3261She was a great character throughout the series and She's the FMC of the series so there's no problem of her becoming the most important character in the final act and it was a great decision. Her getting headaches & her having the blood of asian people and ackerman people making her the most free person in Aot while Ymir is the least free person and many things like this were already setup in the story so her freeing Ymir doesn't affect Eren and Ymir's storyline either
@Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried
@Gilbert_Dice_Gottfried 18 күн бұрын
Her role in season 4 absolutely ruined her character for me. She has no reason at all to not want to kill eren. Eren became such an evil person and her refusing to kill him made me so mad. Eren was completely right to tell her that he always hated her. She never let him learn from the dangers of life and coddled him. I think it had a very detrimental effect on eren and he wanted to be “free” of her. It’s ironic because she was basically a “slave” to him but in a way he was held back and therefore, held captive by his own “slave.” She bothers me because there’s so many female characters in AOT that are written so well. Hange is one of the best written female characters I’ve seen in shonen (even though some people say hange isn’t female). Annie is also very well written. As well as many other female AOT characters that have a much, much more minor role than Mikasa, who is one of THE 3 main characters. She’s very similar to Sakura in that way because Sakura is one of the main characters of naruto. The difference is that naruto has few female characters that are even decently written. Before watching the video I knew what he was going to say. Mikasa is not her own character at all. She has absolutely no personality to speak of whatsoever. The only purpose she has is to protect eren and she has no other character traits besides that at all. It’s fine if she’s in love with him but her obsession with him makes her one of the creepiest characters I’ve ever seen and she is completely bland. Being a bad@$$ doesn’t make a character good. For example, Sasha is a good character because she has so many endearing personality quirks and it’s impossible not to love her. She’s practically bursting at the seams with personality and charm. Mikasa has nothing like that. She was holding everyone back with her refusal to kill eren while everyone else was fighting for their lives. It felt very selfish and stupid of her. She had every right to want to kill eren because he treated her like sh!t and she should’ve been the most mad at him out of anybody. It doesn’t make her more “human” or more relatable for having such huge character flaws. Instead it just makes her a bad character because none of her obsessions with protecting eren were really explained at all. The Ackerman’s protecting people thing was just a lazy excuse and a lousy cop out because Kenny and Levi weren’t like that at all. Kenny was very much his own man and basically did whatever he wanted to. Levi was protecting the people of his home behind the walls but I feel like a lot of it was just him loving battle and trying to justify his own existence. Mikasa was protecting eren because she was a weak person, not because she was an ackerman. In fact if it was because she was an ackerman, it’d just ruin her character even more.
@aimakichan
@aimakichan 9 ай бұрын
I really wanted to like her character but sigh... what a disappointment the whole way through. There were so many opportunities to give her some very interesting ans brave character development. One of the many wasted things in this series...
@wen771127
@wen771127 10 ай бұрын
Isayama doesn't know how to write women period. The fact that the anime version was he trying to fix thing .The levi's squad got more screen time, because he felt they were flesh-out enough in the manga. Means the levi's squad > mikasa few remaining traits of mikasa in the manga. Dude didn't give a fuck or he would did her so dirty in the end.
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
Nope. Historia is Perfect. She should be the one to free Ymir since she IS cleary her parallel but Isayama had to please Eremika shippers then we got this garbage ending.
@enderreaper1482
@enderreaper1482 Ай бұрын
No, every other woman in the series is great. Only Mikasa is the problem.
@szeweweh
@szeweweh Ай бұрын
eremika shippers = sasusaku shippers ​@@lain5858
@06kae3
@06kae3 Жыл бұрын
For me the reason why eren insulted her feelings ...cause she really become the slave of eren in the name of love...eren hated that...why eren hated her theres the most important thing people didnt noticed but thankfully i get it...
@Kjafgh
@Kjafgh Жыл бұрын
Bro thats the whole point of her character she represents Ymir the founder because Ymir was also a slave of love to King Fritz Idk why people don’t like her bc she is actually one of my fav characters
@luiscoa9991
@luiscoa9991 Жыл бұрын
hate mikasa are simp...
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 11 ай бұрын
That plot twist made no sense tho because he clearly cared about her on the boat that’s just my opinion tho.
@GregSmithIII
@GregSmithIII 14 күн бұрын
​@@Kjafgh Ymir never loved King Fritz. He did nothing to show her love
@crazygamer_1082
@crazygamer_1082 Жыл бұрын
I get being saved by someone but would I be in love with them? No I would be eternally grateful but not in love. Plus I really do be hating how she says Eren every five seconds, that pisses me off on a spiritual level 😂😂 And plus it’s just bothered me her core trait was caring for Eren and being a natural talent. IDK at least Armin was doing stuff while he was crying about his BFF dying and Eren getting into crap. 😂
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
yeahhh definitely agreed. kinda disappointing how so many other characters are given complexity but Mikasa's the only main character to be so simplistic. And I do mean SIMPlistic haha
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl Жыл бұрын
My life got saved by someone and I’m not obsessed or in love. 😭
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
First of you're not Mikasa so considering yourself at her position is not a good choice and anime cut lot's of Mikasa's lines and added unnecessary "Ereh" instead
@lenx9129
@lenx9129 Жыл бұрын
Mikasa has been through so much throughout her life and aot. One interesting thing about her is that when she is fighting Ymir, she tells Historia “i don’t get to care for so many people my enemies made that clear years ago” referring to her family being killed. Mikasa is very kept to herself, and quiet, but we see how overprotective she is of the people she loves specially Eren, and what she says to Historia it’s interesting because she means that she doesn’t form that many bonds with many people considering that many people in her life such as the yeagers or her family were killed brutally. She keeps her circle small but in return she is extremely overprotective of the people she loves. We see how much Sasha’s death affects her, to the point that she was the only one at her grave. Mikasa is strong but she fears loosing the ppl she loves, which goes back to what she experienced in her childhood. Also her love for Eren is very controversial, but i see it this way. Eren not only save her from being trafficked but killed the ppl who killed her parents. He also taught her how to live, in the sense that thanks to him her ackerman powers were activated. Mikasa’s devotion and love for him goes much deeper than some silly crush, she is thankful he saved her, gave her a home, and also she thinks he is responsible for the reason she is so strong. As we see Mikasa takes pride many times on being strong. He gave her reasons to live. Mikasa just wants to live a peaceful life with the people she loves, her goals are not being the strongest(even tho she takes pride in being strong) she just wants to live a peaceful life that was constantly taken from her. nevertheless i wish Isayama really explores her inner thoughts or arcs exploring her trauma or her relationship with her Ackerman powers. Also the fact how the studios took a lot of her lines and replaced them with “eren” . Also she starts showing a lot of respect for her superiors like Levi in the manga, which we see some development, because she goes from disobeying orders to trusting those around her.
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
ah yeah I only started reading the manga past the point of season 4 part 1. interesting to hear that they cut her lines / part of her character. i wish they had showed her inner thoughts too, some of these comments have me rethinking some things and I wish they had been more clear
@gabrielspain8082
@gabrielspain8082 Жыл бұрын
Very good point
@t-ro6176
@t-ro6176 Жыл бұрын
So the point of her character in s4 is to kill all her comrades, help the people who just genocided the island. Why because she cares about people she doesn’t know makes no sense she only changes cause the plot demanded her too. She ends up being the reason why all the innocents of paradise was bombed, and you still think she’s a good character. The fact doesn’t change that she is unwell written to the core.
@gabrielspain8082
@gabrielspain8082 Жыл бұрын
@@t-ro6176 i’m sorry to say you just don’t understand the story you can say the same about Arman Hanji and the rest of the gang they’re literally trying to save the world
@t-ro6176
@t-ro6176 Жыл бұрын
@@gabrielspain8082 the main problem with the alliance is that they don’t have a plan to save paradise which is garbage. And please explain what mikasa plans to do when eren’s dead and the world still hates her
@riturap123
@riturap123 2 ай бұрын
It's not completely Mikasa's fault here, thought her own character doen't have actual depth and originality, it's the Ackerman blood in her that makes her cold hearted, loyal defending machine, and dedicating her life to Eren after he saves her is crazyness. A height of obsession or love for someone. But that's what makes her character so famous.
@immortalmangafan7155
@immortalmangafan7155 Жыл бұрын
(no manga spoilers) Here’s the thing tho Mikasa does develop in s1 to 3, take her characterization in the trost arc as shes more hot headed and self centered on protecting Eren, Mikasa didn’t care about the bigger picture (humanity future) like that scene where Eren headbuts Mikasa but in the female titan arc she’s forced to change as when she disobeys Levi to save Eren, she ends up not only hurting Levi but not helping the situation at all so when she has another chance to subdue the titan, she remarks on how it was her fault and that she needs to take responsibility and from there on becomes more of a team player and we can see this through her interactions with Levi as they’re less hostile and she follows orders. We also see her become less solely focused on eren in clash of titans as she has to psych herself up to kill Reiner and Bert as her hesitation to kill her friends led to the situation of the arc. Mikasa development is about learning to fight for the bigger picture as she becomes more focused on saving paradis than simply Eren and we see it in rts where she willingly lets Eren and Armin fight by themselves while she beats Reiner and even lets Armin almost die because she knows Erwin is the better option for humanity(something s1 Mikasa would never do. Her development contrasted Eren as he began to think lesser of the big picture and more about those closest to him.In s4 she has to contend with how she sees Eren and face the fact that she doesn’t understand him as well as she thinks she does.
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
this is a very, very good comment. while i still do not like mikasa's character and think her role was underwhelming compared to her male counterparts, I had totally misunderstood the Erwin/Armin scene (I had thought she had just given up when faced with the prospect of fighting Hange, Levi, and Floch). this comment showed me that she did in fact grow. thank you for your contribution to the discussion and for being polite :)
@f.b.lagent1113
@f.b.lagent1113 Жыл бұрын
use spaces please.
@OK-69420
@OK-69420 Жыл бұрын
Someone give me the summary of this comment
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit he made a perfectly articulated argument just for you to say. I don’t agree. Like what?
@cerene11
@cerene11 Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit In the manga Mikasa is shown clearly to give up on Armin after Hange's speech makes her realize they need Erwin, I think it wasn't as clear in the anime.
@amihar_nohara3183
@amihar_nohara3183 Жыл бұрын
Remember that titan were not what k1lled her parents but they were humans, so mikasa always saw that the world was a cruel place even without titans, that's why she doesn't care about saving humanity but only cares about armin and eren. However that change after the final season where she choose saving humanity over eren
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 11 ай бұрын
Then she goes back to Eren again…
@amihar_nohara3183
@amihar_nohara3183 11 ай бұрын
@@RandomGirl785 and what is wrong with that? Eren literally gave her a second life and k1lled 2 men for her so why she will not dedicate her whole life to protect him? You guys are just being too picky
@shellaa.l3839
@shellaa.l3839 11 ай бұрын
Her change at last season didn't make much sense to me. It's like the writer made her stay with Armin so that she can look good. Why would she care about the people who hurted Eren and why tf did she forgive Annie?
@amihar_nohara3183
@amihar_nohara3183 11 ай бұрын
@@shellaa.l3839 you guys just watch the show for eren I swear to god. She didn't "suddenly change", the whole s4 was about her doubting her feelings for eren and always asking what she saw in him. How many times did she have monologues about her feelings for him whereas in early seasons she wouldn't even care to question her self and will blindly put his protection as a priority because he was weak then but now he is the one who pulls the strings so he doesn't need her protection anymore, that's some emotional developpement taht is overlooked. And why are you guys so angry at the scout forgiving annie ? You guys are forgetting the moral of the story, everyone behind the sea is not an enemy, their governments are the ones to declare war at paradise, the public had no say, so stop with this stupid narrative "bUt ThE WoLRd trIEd tO kIlL tHeM", there is no reason for the scout to hold any grudge for annie she did what she was taught as a child without love and compassion, her only worth was measured by how many enemies she k1lled. Funny how you all hate the scouts for k1lling few Yeagerist as in self defense but ride eren's D while his k1lling INNOCENT PEOPLE.
@lilg6615
@lilg6615 10 ай бұрын
@@amihar_nohara3183 you clearly don't know what you're talking about, majority of the world outside of the wall has been implied to be all racists against Eldians including citizens stop acting like it's just their government, the public clearly did not have a problem with the world destroying paradis, also why wouldn't people be confused and angry that they forgave Annie, you're forgetting she literally slaughtered members of the scouts and stomped on citizens and said she would do it again and don't act like the warriors were brain washed like how gabi genuinely was unlike gabi they knew what they were doing and didn't actually think paradis was full of devils, the scouts didn't kill anyone in self-defense they literally attacked them first, eren destroyed the world to protect his people that were gonna get genoicded for no reason while the scouts slaughtered their own comrades that they went through hell with to go and save the rest of the world thats gonna end up destroying them once they've been saved
@bozydarboski9407
@bozydarboski9407 5 ай бұрын
The key to mikasa's character is the Ackermann blood. Time comes for each Ackermann to fall in service of someone at some point in their lives. After all that's what they have been designed for. For Levi it was Erwin, for Kenny it was Udo and for Mikasa it was obviously Eren. Both Levi and Kenny described a strange feeling of loyalty overcoming them when they met their would-be "masters", people they exceptionally respected for whatever reasons and clearly the same happened with Mikasa. Why then does mikasa come off so bland as compared to the other two? Because unlike them she never had a strong personality to begin with, or at least she never grew up to form one since she was the only one to meet her "master" as only a child. Her former self was dwarfed by her Ackermann awakening. That's why when she finally overcomes it and decides to turn against Eren it's a really big deal. It's insulting to say that the talk with Eren was the writers' admission of failure, since more or less subtle clues were there the whole time from the beginning. Eren simply stated in-universe facts: she was a mindless slave void of her own will driven purely by her inherited properties and THAT was her true struggle.
@Dainfamous_B
@Dainfamous_B 5 ай бұрын
Yeah i dont understand how they could put that together
@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813
@deadringer-cultofdeathratt8813 11 ай бұрын
1:25 I’m glad I’m the one one calling Jean, “Jean”
@reinerbraun_satorugojo
@reinerbraun_satorugojo Жыл бұрын
i think i know why i dislike her now 😂 it's her being a tail to eren. it's kind of annoying to see people who make other people their whole personality for me irl and that's literally her being that character. I understand there maybe more about her character in the manga which I haven't read entirely,but still I cannot like her. I like Pieck more and she just appeared on season 4 😂 and I'm not entirely fan of just being a badasses, it's a good trait contribute to a character but literally what else? and EVERYTIME i say i dont like Mikasa, or worse I say I don't ship Eremika, most AOT fans lose their shit and come at you like calm down. 😂
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl Жыл бұрын
Mikasa just annoys me tbh😭
@reinerbraun_satorugojo
@reinerbraun_satorugojo Жыл бұрын
@@NAME-yg8sl nah ngl same... but I don't voice it out cuz it's such a sensitive topic for aot fans Lmao 😂
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl Жыл бұрын
@@reinerbraun_satorugojo I thought I was the only one who didn't like her
@reinerbraun_satorugojo
@reinerbraun_satorugojo Жыл бұрын
@@NAME-yg8sl i exist!! 😂 LOL
@Requiem0139
@Requiem0139 Жыл бұрын
Mikasa in the manga atleast has a change and compared to the manga is at least 10x better in the manga compared to the anime , however in the anime she’s just another Sakura chasing sasuke until the end
@Requiem0139
@Requiem0139 Жыл бұрын
@Erik Kemeey shes shows her care for eren in the manga along with having an actual personality and self growth
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 11 ай бұрын
Sakura is way better than her tho because she does actually move on from Sasuke
@GutsandBlood231
@GutsandBlood231 8 ай бұрын
@@RandomGirl785 Move on? They married and got a child.
@szeweweh
@szeweweh Ай бұрын
sarada crying in the corner​@@RandomGirl785
@aimakichan
@aimakichan 9 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. She had potential and I kept hoping to see her character develop more, but it just never happened... there were so many missed opportunities. I tried so hard to like her but in the end.. I just couldn't, given what little there is to work with in the manga and the anime so far. That's why I find various fanfiction interpretations of her far more interesting and even likeable. At least some of those authors (the ones I've read) actually took the time and effort to imagine and develop her character into what they felt she could have been.
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
In season 1 Mikasa only cared about her own people, Eren, Armin, and no one else. Season 2, she frekaing hesitates to kill her enemies who killed the people who gave her a home when she had nothing. Season 3, she allows Eren to be in harm's way, letting the guy be kidnapped, when she'd threaten anyone who even wanted to talk with her, and grew a newfound friendship with Historia, choosing to defend her over her lover, because of her mission. Her development is about how she turns from just someone who's purely devout to the people she loves, to the person who not only follows orders, but also can sympathize with her enemies. In Season 4, despite Gabi killing Sasha, and her literally breaking down in tears over her death, she protects her, keeps her safe from harm, even asks if she's okay. Are you sure that they are the same people? She went from someone who's unforgiving, just remember how angry she was at Levi for kicking Eren, despite it being the reason he's still alive, to someone willing to forgive someone who killed her best friend, not because they were good, but just because she doesn't want to hold a grudge. She's already a great character with shuttle but firm development
@lilg6615
@lilg6615 5 ай бұрын
@@avid4288 Literally everything about Mikasa revolves around Eren, she's a terrible character
@avid4288
@avid4288 5 ай бұрын
@@lilg6615 it's like saying Erwin is a bad character since everything about Erwin revolved around missions lol she's a great character but dumb people won't get it ig
@daidaient8180
@daidaient8180 4 ай бұрын
@@avid4288 Going through your other comments, your arguments trying to defend Mikasa are pathetic. Erwin was a fucking commander, no duh most of his screen time is about missions, scheming, negotiating, and planning 🤡🤡🤡🤡 We rarely got to see what he did with his off time. Yet, on the other hand whether Mikasa was on duty or had free time all she thought about was EREN.
@avid4288
@avid4288 4 ай бұрын
@@daidaient8180 Stop acting like a clown obviously she'd be worried about Eren cause Eren was literally at denger at the time when Armin's life was at stake she was worried about him too
@toodlepop
@toodlepop 5 ай бұрын
"i wish i could be more like mikasa. and her voice acting was totally believable and not over the top at all." - no one
@dogti2959
@dogti2959 8 ай бұрын
Trying to find an action Mikasa did without Eren in mind. Failing everytime. What makes it even more disapointed is that she go back to that mentality at the end. Good animation on fight doesn't make a good story.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
That’s true like she only felt like an actual character in the Battle of Trost arc
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
She literally lost her family at the age of 10 she literally closed herself that's why she said " there're only so many lives that I can value and I decided who those people were six years ago" that's why she cares more about Eren and Armin but that changes throughout the series when cares about other people too and wdym by she went back to the same mentality? By killing Eren She literally took the hardest choice
@forgetmaenott
@forgetmaenott 5 ай бұрын
She literally has no development. I thought it would at least be interesting to see her go from being devoted to him to killing him, but in the end she just went back to devoting herself to him even after his death. Her ending is completely reliant on Eren. She’s so obsessed with him even after his death that she doesn’t allow herself to move on and be happy. I can’t understand why so many people call the ending beautiful when it’s honestly just poor character development.
@avid4288
@avid4288 5 ай бұрын
@@forgetmaenott After losing her most beloved person she shouldn't also mourn for the him?? Lol and she literally adopted a kid and lived a fullfilllng life while remembering Eren like many people do when they lose their closest person
@daidaient8180
@daidaient8180 4 ай бұрын
​@avid4288 Since you want to defend Mikasa's shitty behavior so much, how about you explain why it was okay for her to completely ignore and walk away from Louise, the dying girl that admired her mid sentence. It's just like what Eren said, Mikasa is a slave to him, and her obsession is to the point to where she treats people like shit. Everything about her is annoying, everyone has changed except her.
@onlypodha1093
@onlypodha1093 Жыл бұрын
I finally realised why i disliked her..the expectations bro..i was expecting things from her which she was never meant to deliver 😢 it's my fault.sorry Mikasa...
@mohdfahmiilhanbinahmadarif6836
@mohdfahmiilhanbinahmadarif6836 Жыл бұрын
2:14 kagura from gintama got strength, writing and best development in all shounen anime
@michaelmorse4444
@michaelmorse4444 9 ай бұрын
Also, she told the merchant to move the cart because erens squad couldn't pull out unless all the civilians were evacuated.
@sumaiyabintenoor8297
@sumaiyabintenoor8297 5 ай бұрын
Trost Mikasa was so much better than the whole mikasa
@cerene11
@cerene11 Жыл бұрын
What do you think of Historia?
@swana4960
@swana4960 Жыл бұрын
She’s actually my favorite character. I guess my interpretation of her character is a little different and that’s why I like her. Nonetheless, I think what bothers some people about her character is the wasted potential. I don’t mind her being how she is with Eren since I don’t see that as “simping” but I wish she was given more lines or scenes to explore her inner self a little bit more. We witnessed inner monologues from most of the main characters throughout all the season but from Mikasa we barely got 1 or 2. When we did see her she was always on the move, quiet, doing her job. We weren’t shown enough interactions of her with other characters like the other mains. She’s a main character and I think she wasn’t given enough attention. Her Asian side of the family wasn’t explored at all even though it was a main theme of her character. I thought that was going to be super important since they were hunted down to the verge of extinction and all. She had a whole tattoo about that side of the family she kept hidden for years and they went through that whole deal in a few minutes in the anime. Her Ackerman side too (Levi lacks this too) was unexplored. Her relationship with Levi after knowing they share the same last name and fate was also never shown or explored which is crazy after such a huge revelation. I think Isayama rushed himself to finish the manga once the characters arrive on Marley and some of the characters suffered because of this. So many things could’ve been explored more.
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
Her Asian side didn’t need to be explored. That was the point of rejecting royalty.
@dawsonh420
@dawsonh420 Жыл бұрын
oh boy good luck with this controversial take! signed, someone who also has controversial takes
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
hahaha thank you :)
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
season 1 Mikasa only cared about her own people, Eren, Armin, and no one else. Season 2, she fucking hesitates to kill her enemies who killed the people who gave her a home when she had nothing. Season 3, she allows Eren to be in harm's way, letting the guy be kidnapped, when she'd threaten anyone who even wanted to talk with her, and grew a newfound friendship with Historia, choosing to defend her over her lover, because of her mission. Her development is about how she turns from just someone who's purely devout to the people she loves, to the person who not only follows orders, but also can sympathize with her enemies. In Season 4, despite Gabi killing Sasha, and her literally breaking down in tears over her death, she protects her, keeps her safe from harm, even asks if she's okay. Are you sure that they are the same people? She went from someone who's unforgiving, just remember how angry she was at Levi for kicking Eren, despite it being the reason he's still alive, to someone willing to forgive someone who killed her best friend, not because they were good, but just because she doesn't want to hold a grudge.
@daeith1233
@daeith1233 5 ай бұрын
S4 Mikasa destroyed her past dev
@avid4288
@avid4288 5 ай бұрын
@@daeith1233 stop living in delusion
@Blue-Code
@Blue-Code 2 ай бұрын
If the manga and anime just showed more scenes of Mikasa interacting with people outside of Eren or Armin and learning to understand other people then I would have believe in that development. But the manga and anime didn't show that and has only shown Mikasa being obsessed with Eren 24/7.
@avid4288
@avid4288 2 ай бұрын
@@Blue-Code There ARE scenes where she interacts with other people I literally mentioned that and caring for someone isn't an obsession specially when that person is always in danger
@Blue-Code
@Blue-Code 2 ай бұрын
@@avid4288 I'm not denying your examples, but what I'm saying is that Mikasa's attachment with Eren is outweighed by her own development. Had Iseyama focused more on Mikasa's interactions with other people and focus a bit less on her attachment on Eren then I believe Mikasa would have been a good character. But unfortunately that's the complete opposite and Mikasa's development was rushed and poorly executed.
@maddmira9888
@maddmira9888 5 ай бұрын
Gotta disagree with Ymurs character. The core part of her character was agency
@chrismenary3340
@chrismenary3340 6 ай бұрын
I agree with you though what I would have changed about that scene would be…instead of telling false stories like Ackermans needing to protect a host, have Eren say things that are true like how hypocritical Mikasa was being like how she said the Eren she knew would never get civilians involved in a war when that’s kinda what they’ve been doing how many civilians did she think were killed in Eren’s fight with Anne in the interior, in-fact if memory serves correctly Eren was reluctant to fight at first but Mikasa herself pressured him into going through with it and what she also said that day was that “this world is a cruel place”, true yes but if she really believed that why was she ignoring the fact that those people Eren killed all wanted to kill them soldier, civilian, and ambassador from other countries alike and way was she talking about a scarf as if that changes anything, if there’s anyone who doesn’t care about anyone or anything els it’s her, she doesn’t care about Paradise or anyone els she only cares about Eren, the fact that she pinned Armin to that table to defend Eren when Armin was lashing out on her behalf proves it
@deepikanaval5763
@deepikanaval5763 Жыл бұрын
Loved it!
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
thanks!
@AreyemMeyera
@AreyemMeyera Жыл бұрын
I think she’s quite reasonable as a character. She loves someone who she’s known since forever and knew that person must have reasons for their actions. That’s not blind love. She just knew her love interest so much that it’s hard for her to believe that person is evil. Until the last moment of course. She was intended to be of the same relevance in the Plot as Eren but got written off, you say? Yes. That’s life for you. There are kids and teens out there with great potential and bright future but get eaten by society and fall to mediocrity. That’s life. It’s easy to understand, is it?
@salamyaya162
@salamyaya162 6 ай бұрын
Bad character that's completely tied up to another character.
@lukedavies3654
@lukedavies3654 Жыл бұрын
I love these kinds of analysis, I just watched a 20 minute video on why she’s great too. These perspectives are always interesting
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Frazier16
@Frazier16 Жыл бұрын
I just did the same. I wonder if we watched the same video
@lonewolfgamingplus379
@lonewolfgamingplus379 5 ай бұрын
Now I think about it, creating an OC that is exactly like Mikasa yet more developed, complex, and has history and backstory is throughly explored. Yet.. he is drawn to Mikasa. I feel that the character that I created can resolve the issues with Mikasa.
@-Carmody
@-Carmody 4 ай бұрын
Mikasa is one of my favorite characters but i hate how she was written in the anime. But at least she started to have doubts about Eren in seson 4 . I respect her Courage to stand up for humanity and kill Eren and i understand how she felt when he was destroying the world. The thing i hate the most about her is that she Has no personality, not manny atachments and is madly in love with Eren. If you changed some of the things about her she would be a pretty good character
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
This ending just made her worse. Being "The choosen one" just made her a mary sue. This created a massive plothole because Arckemans were persecuted only because they cant be afected by the founder titan powers. That's why Kenny become a serial killer of military Royal guards...to protect his family. Just to favor Mikasa, Yrmir, Eren and even Kenny character´s arcs got destroyed! She should move on from eren when he was alive.
@AlokKumar-rc2wb
@AlokKumar-rc2wb Жыл бұрын
Very well articulated analysis! Really liked how Mikasa has significance in Manga that Anime has not caught up to.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
She’s always been an irrelevant character tho
@Brevincampbell12
@Brevincampbell12 2 ай бұрын
Characters like Ymir are okay because they aren’t main characters. Mikasa is the main female character by Eren and it really bad
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
2:47. Cmon man. I gave you the benefit of the doubt but did you watch/read the series? Zeke literally confirms this is false. Kenny’s grandfather has stated this is impossible as that’s why the Asians and Ackerman could not be controlled. This is literally just flat out wrong.
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
Her love blinded her, same way the rest of her friends agreed until eren went full genocide. Eren was the one who changed her as a human being. Mikasa made the choice that Ymir could not. She is literally the first and last thing eren sees.
@junaeee8215
@junaeee8215 6 ай бұрын
I dont hate mikasa, but she's so annoying 😂
@aele
@aele 7 ай бұрын
"But I think too often in Shonen, women especially aren't givin the freedom ot complexity of their male counterparts". That's actually the whole argument here. I love Isayama, the writing here was amazing, SNK has a tremendous story, but making one of the best characters of the show a one dimensional shell of a character is the shitties thing a male writer can do.
@charliecollings5515
@charliecollings5515 Жыл бұрын
I agree with most of your points but there is a difference between a badly writen simp, and a character who’s arc is about excepting her individuality, excepting reality and letting go (this does not mean dishonouring or forgetting - to people who dislike 138 onwards) Mikasa did need more scenes before season 4 away from Eren for this to be smoother however.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 11 ай бұрын
Yeah
@clynxisapotato7582
@clynxisapotato7582 Ай бұрын
i'm sorry for any rude interpretations of this comment but the dislike ratio is terrifying 💀
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 10 ай бұрын
0:27 Eren insulting Mikasa and Armin just didn’t make any sense (it felt way to out of character) and the plot twists were ridiculous in my opinion and (season 4 seems to prefer shock value over actual plot). 1:23 I still don’t get why Armin is in love with Annie F-ing Annie This is just my opinion however so there’s no need to be toxic in the comments section
@GutsandBlood231
@GutsandBlood231 8 ай бұрын
It absolute makes sense. What do you mean. I understood that scene immediately when i watched it. On the one hand Eren said this cause they have to kill him and Mikasa should move on. On the other hand Eren really hates slaves cause he is the biggest slave of all. The slave of fate. So he has to go through all that gruesome horror to safe her. She always saw that Mikasa has to kill him even if he loves her. That is why he really hates her. But he hates the fate and himself more than everything else.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
@@GutsandBlood231it doesn’t make sense because the manga negates what happened in the previous seasons/chapters. Also not to be rude your explanation is right (due to later manga chapters) but it logically doesn’t make any sense.
@GutsandBlood231
@GutsandBlood231 7 ай бұрын
@@RandomGirl785 Good points. But Imo nature is not about logic. Logic is just a concept of humans. We all don't act logical. We are slaved to our emotions. That is why we never could perfect unify as a holistic entity.
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
@@GutsandBlood231that's true
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
Everything past chapter 122 (When Eren free Yrmir in PATHS) IS a retcon. Why? Because Isayama had to change the ending. His editor pressured him to make a more "shonen esque" ending to please the majority of AOT fanbase in Japan: Eremika shippers 🤢🤮 The original ending? Well Eren complete the rumbling and kill everyone in the alliance.
@lucianstanciu232
@lucianstanciu232 Жыл бұрын
Hey man your a hater of mikasa? Or why You say these things
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
hm idk? Not trying to be a blind hater. definitely have criticisms of the way her arc was handled tho
@mercuriology45
@mercuriology45 Жыл бұрын
as you said in your comment section, you started reading the manga after season 4. To be honest if you actually wanna have a valid view on her character, you should read the manga from the start, then do your criticism on her. Maybe your points are valid then. Also you say it yourself in your video. Mikasa represents simplicity of a person who wants to be with her loved ones. Even isayama said how mikasa wanted to live the life she had as a child. The whole ymir- mikasa thing was certainly bad writing as the ending had many flaws. However i always saw it as tragic(even tho im not an ending fan) Mikasa has dedicated her life protecting the ones she loved, Eren specially. Her going up against him because she doesn’t agree with his ideologies, does make sense. The execution of it was terrible in my opinion tho. Mikasa was a victim of lazy writing at the ending. As someone else points out, she does develop bonds for other people, she starts respecting Levi and her comrades more, for someone who joined just to protect Eren and Armin. we see her respect the people around her, grow to care for others.
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you're saying! execution was terrible, Mikasa was a victim of lazy writing. I think if someone's character arc isn't readily apparent / comprehensible that is a flaw with the story and the character imo.
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
I feel like you copped out at the ending because you simply didn’t agree. Her writing gets even stronger when you understand chapter 138 even more and how it functions as a loop to 1
@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851
@analuizadefigueiredosouza7851 7 ай бұрын
THANK YOU. I HATE what Mikasa represents as a character, especially consering what it means for the writing of female characters
@JebonmcfilCompetente
@JebonmcfilCompetente 7 ай бұрын
I Honestly believe that kaya is more well written and had more development,dialogs,goals and impact to the plot than mikasa, in my own opinion.😅
@JebonmcfilCompetente
@JebonmcfilCompetente 7 ай бұрын
Even Sasha who was a comic-relief side character had way more development,growth,impact and was more important to the plot in season4 than her and Annie atleast Sasha died as a good(not destroyed) character, Sasha did not contradict herself and the themes that she died was very respectful to her character, although I wish her death dialogues were more than just food but in my opinion she still good atleast she had a start,development,had a punishment(which Annie doesn't),end and develops and influence other characters which are Mr.Braus,Nicolo,Kaya,Gabi, Eren, Connie and Jean
@JebonmcfilCompetente
@JebonmcfilCompetente 7 ай бұрын
1.)My problem with Mikasa is how her strength was not explained enough aside from she has Ackerman blood 2.)her entire character is revolving around eren does not have a plot or goal of her own that does not involved to the protagonist 3.)she is a one dimensional character, her character can be easily removed from the story and the story flow will not be affected, her fight scenes and screentime could be given to any other side characters like Sasha, Connie,Jean,Annie,Berthold, Ymir freckles and Historia 3) Hypocrite, rude to Louise (comrade noobie soldier who idolized her, who was just fighting for her country and their race) but kind to Annie (who massacred her comrades) and Gabi (who assassinated her friend) and isn't Louise also brainwashed child fighting for her country, she might have been influence by floch propaganda to secure a better life for ther people no matter what it takes. 4)Her writting as a character is really bad that sometimes she does not make sense anymore and have to used headcanons just for her to make sense
@JebonmcfilCompetente
@JebonmcfilCompetente 7 ай бұрын
5)no foreshadowing of being the choosen one, her parallel between ymir was really weak
@JebonmcfilCompetente
@JebonmcfilCompetente 7 ай бұрын
6) only ymir knows and no i don't want that mika finding another man for 10 yrs atleast
@Elgansayer
@Elgansayer 2 ай бұрын
Tell me you didnt udnerstand titans without telling me
@nando9443
@nando9443 Ай бұрын
You can personally not like the character Or maybe say it's not "great" writing But she's definitely not a terrible character, not even a bad one And although she might not be an especially complex character, she isn't at all as shallow as you discrip her
@SpazzAttack78
@SpazzAttack78 Жыл бұрын
(manga spoilers, run away my anime-only friends) About Mikasa's 'simplicity' and plot importance, I'm not sure if it really could have been flushed out more. Like, the thing with her headaches and Ymir looking into her head was because Mikasa reminded Ymir of herself, a girl who was a 'slave' to her 'love' who no matter what they did, she would always follow their whims. I think we needed to see this 'stagnant' Mikasa for this Ymir/Mikasa connection to pay off. If this was exposed early on, I don't think I could have been saved for the very end of the show. Mikasa's 'simplicity is really beautiful in that it never changes throughout the entire series, and beautiful in that Mikasa only breaks out of this cycle and becomes FREE when she kills her lover. But yeah, this 'simplicity' certainly comes at the cost of making her character BORING. Mikasa is just a giant simp. I think Isayama could have done a better job with the headaches, introducing them earlier on and maybe having some more inner Mikasa dialogue about whether she should 'let Eren be' or whatever. We sorta had this during Season 2 after Eren gets kidnapped by Reiner and Bertolt... but I think this moment may have came too early? With Season 3 part 1 and part 2 sitting right in-between this kidnapping and Season 4, this moment where Mikasa and Armin reflect on how Eren is always running off on his own feels more disconnected than it should be. We sorta get this with Armin punching Eren at the round table, but maybe having Armin disconnect himself earlier from Eren earlier on would make Mikasa staying with Eren more impactful? Like after they collect Eren from his rogue attack, what if Armin went off on Eren? Yelling at Eren for killing innocent people, families, and kids? Armin asking Eren how he could even do this after what they went through in their own childhood. A moment like this would've been really impactful and impactful for Mikasa if she then quietly tells Armin to stop. Even a little comment from someone telling Mikasa that she's "too clingy to Eren and that it's unhealthy" could have gone a long way.
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
yup, agree completely with everything you said here! i guess by fleshed out I meant fleshed out and also foreshadowed / built up better haha. you made some really good suggestions :)
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit Well, for me Mikasa\Ymir connection kinda random, comes out nowhere and kinda cringe at it core(this whole stolkgolm sindrom bullshit). I mean First king Friez situation and Eren are way to different from each other for Ymir take Mikasa choice as example . Ymir share way more simularites with Historia (they are literally Alfa and Omega, Beginig and the End with very simular fate) And the way how Historia fight for herself instead of submit to her fate (lesson how to live for yourself) - that lesson could definitly save Ymir from her enternal suffer
@f.b.lagent1113
@f.b.lagent1113 Жыл бұрын
the thing is the series(Isayama and his editors) decided to substantiate that obsession of hers with Eren reciprocating apparently Mikasa’s entire characterization instead of ending as the character Eren built up to be, it didn’t help her character at all in fact all it shown is that money is good and the authors disregarded consistency to cater to the majority, we all know the best thing for that kind of relationship where both had barely shown proper connection(connection that differs from Eren-Armin interaction as Mikasa and Armin is his closest friends/family) and even the scenes they had that’s apparently “romantic” is very ambiguous given the situation and Eren’s state 1. chapter 50 Dina scene, Eren was in one of his deepest moment as he realized the main reason those people died is because of him and he’s sickened from his lack of power to save others like his child self seeing his mom eaten, he looked around and saw the very thing he’s whining about currently happening and then there’s Mikasa inviting him to end it all and let themselves be eaten because she’s contented with the idea of dying with him but we all know Eren is far from someone who’d die without fight specially if it wouldn’t achieve anything, and people focused solely on the “I’ll wrap that scarf around you whenever you want” without taking all those many factors into account, was it a “dont even dare invite me to death *shoves Mikasa* have whatever you want after I get out of this situation, I’m not just going to die here because it’s my nature”? or a “we wouldn’t both die here my UwU *unnecessarily shoved her off* I’ll wrap that scarf around you whenever you want because you’re the most important thing here currently apparently despite the rest of the arc of me contemplating about my actions and worth as an individual and despite the very thing I’m whining about currently happening around me”? 2. the “who am I to you”, is pretty obvious as there’s a mystery on the Ackermans and Eren was also shown being curious about it when he talked about Zeke who then talked about love which for some reason cut into Historia talking about having a baby for no apparent reason at all, Eren was also at the dawn of enacting his plans to destroy all those innocent lives and again in one of his most depressing moments in the series, which is also one of the most crucial moments for his characterization and then apparently all it really was about is Him confirming if Mikasa is seeing him another way?
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
The headaches were there from the start tho?
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
No. Even you have your twisted interpretation of what mikasa should be and not what she is. Her being too clingy was never an issue with eren as she felt indebted to the one who saved her life+Carla yeagers last words+the fact she’s her only family left with Armin+ she also loves eren. She had been unable to see the cruelty of his actions and only the beauty. Blinded by this, she has to confront this in the final arc.
@animepastas7671
@animepastas7671 Жыл бұрын
Spoil if you read this : I use to love Mikasa in the 3 first season 'cause she was someone loyal and lovely with Eren while others characters except Armin, were against him because of his titan or else, but then in the last season she's so disappointed me, I thought that she would always be with Eren even in the worst moments of their lives but what's now ? Just because she had pity more for strangers than for her own people, and just because everyone were all okay for kill Eren she's just follow them and in the end she is the only to killed the man that she "loves" really
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 11 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m saying
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
Even Eren knew what he was doing was wrong so your point is not valid to begin with
@quraishiaothman9284
@quraishiaothman9284 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I agree. Not a fan of her at all.
@Unkowntheee
@Unkowntheee Жыл бұрын
Do more on Attack on titan please
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
sure! anything or anyone in particular you want me to cover?
@Unkowntheee
@Unkowntheee Жыл бұрын
I want to know your views on eren starting the rumbling do you think he was right to do so?
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
i will have a video on the rumbling out within a week :) will lyk when it's done too
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
@DeerInWinter ooh I was already planning to do this actually! it'll be a little longer than this one though so might take a little more time :)
@luiscoa9991
@luiscoa9991 Жыл бұрын
mikasa is great but i hated as simp
@lazarus-374
@lazarus-374 8 ай бұрын
Mikasa so annoying bro ..I'd let it go if she had a good reason like Armin but she just simping for even...
@RandomGirl785
@RandomGirl785 7 ай бұрын
Same
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
How she's annoying? and loving someone isn't simping
@JustasWealth
@JustasWealth 28 күн бұрын
Mikasa was written to be resemblance of ymir that would be slave and love the king
@michaelmorse4444
@michaelmorse4444 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, until she changes in the last act.
@dorianmarch5811
@dorianmarch5811 9 ай бұрын
Fr this man didn’t understand shit
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
And thanks to Mary Sue Mikasa the ending IS a hot garbage full of plot holes. I guess Isayama got millionaire selling Mikasa bodypillows, he had to retcon everything to make this cardboard Mikasa "relevant" in the end.
@daniaamir6047
@daniaamir6047 Жыл бұрын
Do a review on jujutsu kaisen
@ikemen_zein2213
@ikemen_zein2213 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for speak
@ian.swift.31614
@ian.swift.31614 11 күн бұрын
100% agree. i despise her so much. she's a horrible person through and through. always talking crap, always being a beta, zero confidence in anything beyond her own fighting ability which just comes across as extremely arrogant and disdainful. and that was demonstrated in her little rant in season 1. she even pushes away historia when historia wants to be friends.
@F1nd-m9
@F1nd-m9 14 күн бұрын
I like Mikasa but that my opinion I like all of the characters
@atmaillumina
@atmaillumina 2 ай бұрын
I agree. Mikasa is objectively a shit character.
@bunchberry9957
@bunchberry9957 2 ай бұрын
Levi>>>>>>>>Mikasa
@VgVg-rg6tq
@VgVg-rg6tq 7 ай бұрын
i dont hate him becouse hi simp for eren im hate him becouse he didnt stay loyal to eren
@SAGEjutsu
@SAGEjutsu 10 күн бұрын
I genuinely disagree with your points. only thing I'd nod at is mikasa indeey not having ass much agency as the ending gave her even with that Calling her a terrible character is still just freaking clickbait bro 😂 . Mikasa wants to protect and be with eren that's her disire, we wouldn't be having this subject if Mikasa was a overprotective dad trying to save his son who keeps getting into trouble an is forced to take his life at the end . There situation/position can change but Not every character is meant or needs to have a change of philosophy, and the characters that needed to change did change when it was needed
@johnlasker5408
@johnlasker5408 5 күн бұрын
Histora was also semi attached to eren during season 3 but the difference between her and mikasa is that she actually had a personality that both made her interesting and was able to give good chemistry between them. Mikasa doesn’t have one and her chemistry with eren is one sided at best, non-existent at worst
@Angras_advocate18
@Angras_advocate18 Ай бұрын
3:51 eww that’s a nasty example demon slayer really? ik we all have the memory of fish but there’s other anime out there u coulda used.
@Neno-zb1ci
@Neno-zb1ci 6 ай бұрын
ill disagree ill say mikasa is reduced to that god damn scarf she only likes eren cuz he gave her that scarf my god also armin isnt any better he literally does nothing thats just a aot chrctr writing problem in general
@aleXtreme_
@aleXtreme_ 6 ай бұрын
No problem with Mikasa, she is a tragic and super deep character. Her pain brings me to tears from time to time
@Mens_Rea
@Mens_Rea 9 ай бұрын
I came here just to write how much I dislike this character, in this show of complex character I prefer literally everyone even the merchant from the first season that block the exit, she just sucks, poorly written and not even that cool, I'm not saying this because it's a female (Something i've heard from the community several times as a way to defend her) since one of my favourite is Hange and I like every other female character in the series (Historia, Ymir, Sasha etc..). Objectively WORST character of AoT with no development.
@lmaoo2693
@lmaoo2693 9 ай бұрын
if you don’t like her that’s your opinion, but your clearly being biased on your hate towards her. she IS a well written character. mind you isayama wrote her. just cuz you like characters who talk a lot more doesn’t make mikasa less interesting, there’s a reason why people favor introverted characters more
@Mens_Rea
@Mens_Rea 9 ай бұрын
@@lmaoo2693 She's literally a dog with a collar (the scarf) even in the end Armin was like "WTF think with your own mind stop being so useless!", if you want to talk about a cool introverted character that's Levi, Mikasa it's just a POS character with no ambition and no purpose and no development, everyone hate her dude
@lmaoo2693
@lmaoo2693 9 ай бұрын
@@Mens_Rea ‘dog with a collar’ yet she isn’t😂 in the series you can clearly see she has her own actions and follows what her heart desires. and she does have a goal? even though she’s mainly a static character, she does have development and portrays major themes to the story supporting her character. just say u hate her and go😂
@Mens_Rea
@Mens_Rea 9 ай бұрын
@@lmaoo2693 I fuckin hate her I could not have been more clear about that😂
@blubblubblup
@blubblubblup 7 ай бұрын
@@lmaoo2693 her heart's desires and her own actions: "bark bark" "ereh..."
@arminkir9389
@arminkir9389 Жыл бұрын
Huh ima explain this one more time MIKASAS story is about learning to become an indivual and i can already here people saying oh but how does that make sense when everybody is their own person? A person is defined by these core things their personality their relationships looks appeal and how they see themselves mikasa at the start of the anime had none of this before eren entered her life she had no friends only her parents the only people she knew yet they. Died so what did she have to fight for? Then eren comes in he sees her in literal pain and comforts her LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN and mikasa joins his family and thats where her personality her chatecter begins throughout the rest of the story mikasa learns how to become her own person she learns what ymir and historia does to live for herself and inorder to live for herself she wants to stand by her friends thats her dream her goal her reason for carrying on. And this is even drived in further when carla told mikasa to keep eren out of trouble that was her new mother figure and litterally a year after she died with her only family being eren she became his mother. But then she joined the training cadet and met new people she created RELATIONSHIPS and started to care for more people( ik you prob here that alot from mikasas charecter but let me countine) but while she starts to open to more people she also starts to learn to think for herself shell do things that she sees as moralely right such as critisize eren for getting in a fight with jean over a stupid topic or when sees armin being a downer during trost yet boost his ego cause she genuially knows he has the potiental to lead them where they need to go But all of this is tested during trost she has to seperate from eren armin and the rest she had to go solo at first she was hesitate but then she decided to trust erens words and leave him be(never trust a suicidal maniacs words) he died she cried and become suicidal too until she realized that just because erens not here with her doesnt mean she has to die she decides to keep fighting inorder to honor his memory LIKE A NORMAL HUMAN DOES And even after erens death she never stops caring for others such as when she saves sasha from the titan inside the building but when eren reappeared she kinda stop growing as everything she was doing at that point was basiclly meaningless as eren comes and saves the day. Then we get into the female titan arc we can skip this one cause the only thing important in this one for her was her facing annie a comrade and interacting more with the charecters. Then we have clash of titans THIS is where mikasa finally realizes you cant stop eren from being eren hes too stuborn and at that point she accepts it and right before their about to die she confesses to eren which forshadowing kick in and saved them. Now then s3 THIS IS THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT CHARECTER ARC FOR HER. we skip uprising cause in short she went through another ereh phase but its right before that where an ova story is shown and the main message for this story is you cant save eren from his own death and evantually you no matter what timeline or wherever you are you will kill him And mikasa learns to somewhat accept that but she doesnt care she wants to be with eren( LIKE A NORMAL PERSON WHO KNOWS A LOVED ONE IS GONNA DIE FEELS) Then later on into the season armin about to unalive and the fight for who gets picked starts and people say mikasa attacked levi because eren got hurt but she actually did it because she realized at that moment levi was dead set on saving erwin then she fought with floch and hange blah blah blah hange convinces mikasa to let him go JUST LIKE SHE DID IN TROST she realized just because hes gone doesnt mean she cant remeber armin and boom the samething happens armins were back at a standstill UNTIL S4 where isayama finally tells us who mikasa is ima skip the first 2 parts of the season cause if i dontwell be here all day but short story mikasa begins to realize eren isnt really worth it and decides to fight against him now the final chapters is where it happens( im not gonna bring ymir here cause my hands will break) mikasa after losing eren revives losing armin revives finally decides that she needs to move on just like she realized in s3 you cant save eren from himself but instead of resenting or being angry at eren she decides to put him out of his misery she shows to us and herself that shes not a slave shes not erens other shes mikasa ackerman a person who learned to become their own person a person who learned that just because you love someone doesnt mean that you have to protect them from the world cause evantually what will you do when you have to protect them from themself?
@getrichrich8246
@getrichrich8246 Ай бұрын
Man i like her n armin. They are annoying yes but a perfect character would be so boring.
@amulyasrichandan1990
@amulyasrichandan1990 Жыл бұрын
Mikasa>>Midruto
@TantoSN
@TantoSN 3 ай бұрын
This is why I believe the end of season 4/Attack on Titan was a good ending for MIKASA, maybe not some of the other characters, but mainly Mikasa, She finally realizes that she can live for herself, and chooses to let Eren go.
@lain5858
@lain5858 2 ай бұрын
This ending just made her worse. Being "The choosen one" just made her a mary sue. This created a massive plothole because Arckemans were persecuted only because they cant be afected by the founder titan powers. That's why Kenny become a serial killer of military Royal guards...to protect his family. Just to favor Mikasa, Yrmir, Eren and even Kenny character´s arcs got destroyed! And sorry but being sad for the rest of your life is not moving on. She should move on from eren when he was alive.
@finalaleks.6663
@finalaleks.6663 Жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree at the same time; I think she's a fantastic character *in theory*, and that she's definitely underutilized and unexplored throughout the series itself (except for suddenly becoming the crux of the entire narrative at the very end, that was a horrible move).
@Philthorn
@Philthorn Жыл бұрын
You said it not me: "in theory" cause that's all there's to know about it
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
She's literally the main FMC of the series so it's a great move to make her the crux of the entire narrative rather than some other side character
@DemonKing-oi4jd
@DemonKing-oi4jd Жыл бұрын
I get your points about Mikasa, and on the surface level you are correct that she is simplistic as a character. I totally disagree with you though. If you can't even see what she brings to the story, then it would be hard to take your opinion seriously. There is a reason she is there at the start to Manga and just as important as the Eren and Armin at the end of the manga. You keep saying that Mikasa is always chasing after Eren, but never even once question what Mikasa means to Eren or what she actually represents to him in the story.
@Nicejokeright
@Nicejokeright Жыл бұрын
Mikasa decided a musty scarf was more important than a dying child, that isn’t a good character
@DemonKing-oi4jd
@DemonKing-oi4jd Жыл бұрын
@@Nicejokeright Yeah she never was compassionate to jaegerists.
@Nicejokeright
@Nicejokeright Жыл бұрын
@@DemonKing-oi4jd But she was compassionate with Gabi who killed her best friend, an enemy who wanted nothing more than the destruction of her home. Wasn’t she compassionate when Eren killed those children in the building.
@DemonKing-oi4jd
@DemonKing-oi4jd Жыл бұрын
@@Nicejokeright I don't get your point...she doesn't accept killing children. Are you a child murderer or something?
@Nicejokeright
@Nicejokeright Жыл бұрын
@@DemonKing-oi4jd Use your brain, Louise only wanted to protect her homeland from the outside world who wanted nothing more than to see her and friends and families die. Louise looked up to Mikasa, she admired her, but Mikasa was cold to her. Mikasa is shitty character and there’s nothing you can do to justify her actions
@canas_
@canas_ Жыл бұрын
Her character is parallel to the founding titan, ymir
@SerenityOceania
@SerenityOceania Жыл бұрын
Eren's slave and loyal dog to the very end, even in her deathbed
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
The slave that killed him??
@t-ro6176
@t-ro6176 Жыл бұрын
@@ofimportance5458na the slave who cried at eren’s grave for three whole years while everybody else was trying to make the world a better place
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
You're more of a clown and dog than she ever will be
@avid4288
@avid4288 6 ай бұрын
​@@t-ro6176Even after decades later people cry when they lose someone but that doesn't make them a slave your mental gymantics is on another level
@szeweweh
@szeweweh Ай бұрын
​@@t-ro6176LMAO, Agreed
@leylabaghirova9466
@leylabaghirova9466 Жыл бұрын
eren and mikasa had potential to be one of the greatest couples only that it wasnt well developed at all and mikasa isnt developed at all and overall i think it could have been done much better
@premiumsushiroll
@premiumsushiroll Жыл бұрын
Anime and manga spoilers! I don't think Mikasa is a bad character. I think we should understand that,when she was a child she witnessed her parents being killed before her eyes, and the only one that helped her was Eren. After that,her new parents(Carla and Grisha)also died,that of course being extremely traumatizing for both her and Eren. The only thing she had left was Eren,and because of the trauma(probably also the promise she made to Carla)she became overprotective and obsesed with Eren from the fear of losing him as well.(ik she also loves him but that just adds to it) Also,in the scene where Eren told Mikasa he hates her(i see that you thing he really meant what ge said),it was actually just a part of his plan. He wanted to make his friends stop trying to help or follow him so that,when he turned against the world they would be seen as the heroes in the end. He wanted them to stop carrying about him from the fear of losing them.After he beat Armin,you can actually see he was holding back tears,meaning he was just acting. His plan was to have them kill the Founding titan so that they could live normal lives without being discriminated.(i think its a good ending but it seems thats very controversial amongst fans) The thing with Aot is that all the characters are so well written.Unlike most shows,in Snk,all of them have their own backstories,purpose and characteristics and none of them is good nor evil(thats what i really love about it). All of them are trying to do the right thing and are driven by their traumas and dreams. I might be wrong but i believe that Mikasa is a well written character and that her obsession for eren is justifiable.
@alelzarterl212
@alelzarterl212 11 ай бұрын
The main issue is that Mikasa has literally zero character traits other than being obsessed with Eren. What would happen if she disappeared from the story? Nothing. She is of no use to the story. She is just there to chase Eren romantically and to represent a strong and attractive female character. Isayama developed her character in season 1 and threw all of that development in the trash. Like bro, tell me how she even developed from season 1 if in chapter 139, ON HER DEATH BED, she still HAS THE GODDAMN SCARF ON. Adding onto the fire, Isayama made her an important character for the plot at the LAST GODDAMN SECOND IN CHAPTER 139. If Eren's plan was to get stopped by them at 80% then TELL ME HOW HIS PLAN IS BETTER THAN ZEKE'S? Eren achieved peace for a few decades and then Paradis got carpet bombed. So in the end they all got killed one way or thr other. Why not go with the etuhanasia plan? It's going to give Paradis a few decades of peace and the only sacrificed would be some royal blooded mfs descendants of Historia. Eren's plan was the 100% rumbling. If he eliminated all of his enemied he would have gotten peace for Paradis FOREVER. HE GOT RETCONNED BECAUSE OF GREED. THEY JUST WANT TO MAKE A GODDAMN SEQUEL.
@premiumsushiroll
@premiumsushiroll 11 ай бұрын
@@alelzarterl212 huh,we were talking about Mikasa not the reason for the rumbling or if it was right or wrong. Also Zeke's plan was preaty messed up and before u say it,yes i do know that the rumbling caused more to die but i believe it was a better choice. I dont think the Eldians would have done nothing against Marley after that,moreover the titans would have still existed,even for a short period of time but still enough. I do agree that Mikasa was a lil too obsesed but its not like she was useless to the plot.
@alelzarterl212
@alelzarterl212 11 ай бұрын
@@premiumsushiroll Tell me how Mikasa is useful to the plot before chapter 139
@premiumsushiroll
@premiumsushiroll 11 ай бұрын
@@alelzarterl212 mate,like that you could call out every character and you would end up with almost no one that is important. U can say Hange wasnt,she was added just as some kind of meme. Or Sasha,or Jean or the Levi squad or any other character. Does that mean they shouldnt have existed? Plus Mikasa was more relevant to the plot than the majority of them. Tell me how was Hange more important.
@firstlegend5105
@firstlegend5105 10 ай бұрын
​@@alelzarterl212 exactly, she's just too damn boring. Even Levi is better than her even if he's blunt and cold. There are reasons why people love characters like Todoroki, L, Megumi, Kageyama and so on. They have much more depth and personality even when it's subtle. They're complex because they don't show their true intentions towards other and that's why they make great side characters
@Liam_the_Feral_One
@Liam_the_Feral_One 3 ай бұрын
I agree fully- I hate how childish and rude she is to Levi who is my favorite character, and how she always gets what she wants in the end. Her head over heels obsession on Eren is annoying but quite ignorable yet her disrespect for Levi and him and his comrades trying to save everyone is just annoying. She's honestly praised at how good at fighting she is- yet Levi is better which is proven since Levi has saven her multiple times and she has never surpassed him, and Levi is called humanity's strongest soldier which in my opinion is true. If I insulted anyone who likes Mikasa, I'm really sorry, its just my opinion, so please don't be rude.
@elijahcaldwell4216
@elijahcaldwell4216 Жыл бұрын
So a girl that lost her entire family watched her entire family get killed and slaughtered and almost get sold as a you know what but was saved by eren can’t love him with her all and always want to protect him? And another reason why mikasa was protecting eren so hard is bcs she was told me erens mom to do so (there last convo b4 her dying)
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
hm I'm not against Mikasa loving Eren. Just saying I dislike that her character comes across as so one-dimensional- you can be a simp and still have depth e.g. Armin, Jean, and even other anime characters like Naruto, Denji from Chainsaw man etc.
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
How this contradict fact that Mikasa is a flat one-dimesional character?
@elijahcaldwell4216
@elijahcaldwell4216 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fp3in2kf3b she did if u read the ending she killed the person who was killing the entire world a one dimensional character is a character that doesn’t change threw out the story from start to finish but mikasa did now did it take her a while? Yes but she still changed idk if y’all watch sports but this is like saying a role player isn’t a good player bcs the said player is just good at one thing and that’s why he or she isn’t good at all
@user-fp3in2kf3b
@user-fp3in2kf3b Жыл бұрын
@@elijahcaldwell4216 Yep. And even then Mikasa stay to guard his grave like slave she always was. Whole point for Mikasa character arc was to become free from Eren and be able to start a new life, but...Mikasa while being a slave cant let him go( and even her husband become an enternal cuckold to long way dead man)
@elijahcaldwell4216
@elijahcaldwell4216 Жыл бұрын
@@user-fp3in2kf3b have u ever loved sumbody before?😂😂 if u have you will know that it’s very hard to let them go it may take years and like I said it before mikasa had a valid reason to love eren like she did so ppl hating on mikasa for loving eren even after she dies is a bad take that’s like saying Jean and Connie are bad bcs they were still sad after Sasha died😂
@Unkowntheee
@Unkowntheee Жыл бұрын
You earned a sub
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
ty! :)
@Philthorn
@Philthorn Жыл бұрын
Count me in
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
You’d have to prove that” simping” inherently makes a bad character but this doesn’t make sense as it’s a blatant misrepresentation of her character. She DOES THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT EREN SAYS. EREN SAYS TO JOIN THE MILITARY POLICE AND SHE SAYS NO. EREN SAYS NOT TO TELL HIS PARENTS ABOUT HIS DREAM. SHE TELLS THEM. EREN SAYS TO FORGET HIM, she DOES THE OPPOSITE. I have 0 idea how managed to misrepresent such a simple thing. Mikasa’s choice to kill that man was something inspired by eren obviously but it was her “choice” to fight to live. We see more of this in trost, and WFP. Mikasa straight up says, eren saved my life and I owe him my life. I could get into the pride, the world is cruel yet beautiful and etc, but I genuinely don’t think you’d understand. Look up the long dream sequence to even get a better understanding of her character. Mikasa is the direct antithesis of Ymir. Mikasa rejects royalty, Ymir accepts it, mikasa is able to let go, Ymir is not, Ymir blindly serves king fritz, mikasa does not, she ends up killing eren.
@ofimportance5458
@ofimportance5458 Жыл бұрын
Inherently being based around another character doesn’t make a character bad. That’s just idiocy. It’s like trying to explain guts without Griffith, you simply can’t. He’s a D tier character without his dynamic. Same for Mikasa. She accepted the beauty(wrapping the scarf) from eren’s actions and refused to see the cruelty(killing the men). She summed it up as, this is the way the world is supposed to be. As seen by the mantis killing the other bug. She’s forced to reckon with this when eren calls her out. Also doesn’t your point defeat itself?If she’s such a simp, why would she go AGAINST EREN. Why is she constantly at odds with eren throughout the series? Why does she kill him? The one thing eren couldn’t see was the result of Mikasa choice.
@Omar_Marquez
@Omar_Marquez 6 күн бұрын
Bro Mikasa is literally one of the best character
@johnlasker5408
@johnlasker5408 5 күн бұрын
I disagree wholeheartedly
@Omar_Marquez
@Omar_Marquez 2 күн бұрын
@@johnlasker5408 why’s that
@johnlasker5408
@johnlasker5408 2 күн бұрын
@@Omar_Marquez she’s pretty boring, doesn’t have that great a chemistry with eren, doesn’t have much of personality outside of eren, and has a very loosely connected thread with Ymir even tho histora is has way more deeper connection with her. And she doesn’t really move on from eren after she kills him making it even weirder why Ymir chooses mikasa and not historia
@aashas8553
@aashas8553 Жыл бұрын
Yes Mikasa is an awful character and the only development she got in the anime is her chest size compared to the manga. Add some hype osts and panel shots, and you have people saying "Mikasa is very cool!" I dont remember her being ever relevant to the AOT until she was given a fake importance. Disgusting
@eveegirl2878
@eveegirl2878 Жыл бұрын
Of course what yeagerists don't like mikasa? Or believes eren was the father when it was never even shown/hinted. It was the farmer from ch107/ch108, ch134 & finally ch139
@Philthorn
@Philthorn Жыл бұрын
That's why you believe that, when a writer is smart enough to fool the audience into having multiple opinions but never quite the right one
@felixgoobins
@felixgoobins Жыл бұрын
Sure who brought eren is the father and go on just saying eren and historia barely interacted u sound like 10 year old
@eveegirl2878
@eveegirl2878 Жыл бұрын
@@felixgoobins you know ur insulting the yeagerists right? Becase what I'm saying is what yeagerists think 🥱
@eveegirl2878
@eveegirl2878 Жыл бұрын
@@Philthorn you describe the yeagerists in such a perfect sentence. You guys think ur opnions are facts when they aren't.
@NAME-yg8sl
@NAME-yg8sl Жыл бұрын
It’s not only yeagerist that dislike Mikasa. Case in point me, I’m not a yeagerist but I can’t stand her.
@eliteari
@eliteari Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree, but rather than explain, I'd pass a question back: What about Erwin, or even Armin? What makes them better than Mikasa in your eyes?
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
I think what makes them more compelling to me is depth. They have more goals from what I saw and concrete evolution throughout the course of the narrative than Mikasa
@t-ro6176
@t-ro6176 Жыл бұрын
Erwin had goals, was the leader of the scouts, had character development and stayed true to his character in the end which isn’t something mikasa did. She betrayed everybody who trusted her treated them worser than marlins, and did you not see what she did to the yeagerist? And my biggest point what was her plan after she killed eren? And armin was a S-tier character pre-timeskip and became a hypocritical traitor who went against everything the scouts stood for.
@gabrielspain8082
@gabrielspain8082 Жыл бұрын
I completely understand your point, but in my opinion, this is not what makes make us a siuck This is what makes her amazing.
@monkfruit
@monkfruit Жыл бұрын
to each their own haha! mind if I ask what about her makes her amazing? Not trying to criticize just curious :)
@gabrielspain8082
@gabrielspain8082 Жыл бұрын
@@monkfruit well first of all, there are a lot of very complicated characters in attack on Titan and I kind of like that, she is simple to understand and her obsession with eren does make sense because of her Ackerman blood and how he saves her and she does have a very interesting internal struggle in the end. I also think because mikasas character is not about her and more about how she affects the people around her and the story Like how would erens life change if Mikasa was not around. I understand your points and respect them as well. She is not a very complicated character, but the reason other characters are complicated it’s because of her.
@Octopus_oreo
@Octopus_oreo 8 ай бұрын
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