Engine Trouble Flying Home a New Wilga 😬 | Scrappy 30

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Mike Patey

Mike Patey

3 жыл бұрын

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@andrews3902
@andrews3902 3 жыл бұрын
It’s simple. Mike uploads = I watch. Mike uploads after a 3+ week hiatus = I watch immediately. Been heads down on a project all day, so this is a VERY welcomed distraction. Thank you, Mike! 👏🙌
@DEeMONsworld
@DEeMONsworld 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 73, I soloed when I was 16. started flying lessons at 15, My original flight instructor Who is one of those people in your life who you will never forget was a very cautious type. Those days around 1962, we were flying Piper colts, dual omni was the hot set up. He always drilled into my head to constantly consider an emergency landing option, always be looking for a place to land. He would do the drill when least expected, pull the throttle and say land it. he would make me fly it to final before pushing the throttle back in and then proceed to tell me why the field I picked was a bad choice or a good one. I only fly flight sims now, and darn if I still don't always scan for nice flat unplowed fields near a road :)
@JoeLinux2000
@JoeLinux2000 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a sailboat guy. I was single handing a 36' foot from Nuka Hiva in the Marquesas Islands to Honolulu. I left Nuka Hiva in the later afternoon and was cutting it close to the island which has steep cliffs. I was under engine power and behind the wind shadow of the island. The Diesel suddenly quit. The was no wind, and the ocean swell was pushing me onto the island. I put up the main, and it was slapping back and forth from side to side as the boat rose up over the swell. I thought I was going to be ship wrecked for sure. Eventually I stood at the bow with a bucket on a line and tossed it off the bow and was able to turn the boat away from the island. I kept casting off the bucket and pulling it back in. Eventually I was able to get the boat out into the wind line. Later I discovered the valves had frozen in the valve guides due to carbon build up. I was able to do a valve job on it at sea as the boat sailed along by itself under windvane steering. I had no valve spring compressor tool on board. Luckily I didn't loose the keepers, and after about three days got the engine started again. So yes your engine can quit unexpectedly at any time.
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell 3 жыл бұрын
Internet Privacy Advocate Wow! Great job of thinking on your feet!
@travismorgan4249
@travismorgan4249 3 жыл бұрын
Thats and awesome story! Thanks for sharing
@reasonitout9087
@reasonitout9087 3 жыл бұрын
I respect your resourcefulness, self reliance, intelligence, and calm. Your seamanship is greatly admired by all of the sailors and pilots out there including myself.
@jeremysikes708
@jeremysikes708 3 жыл бұрын
Love that you are willing to talk about failures. This will hopefully save someone’s life someday.
@stevespra1
@stevespra1 3 жыл бұрын
This one really hit home Mike. Our son landed in a corn field at night in a Cherokee last weekend. He did a great job all things considered and called me 10 minutes after. I've been flying for over 30 years and never had anything close to an engine failure (other things but not that). He got his private a year ago and instrument two months ago. Really makes you think about nighttime single piston ops for sure. Great video as always.
@skipdreadman8765
@skipdreadman8765 3 жыл бұрын
Great job to your son! Congratulations to you.
@Jonnydeerhunter
@Jonnydeerhunter 3 жыл бұрын
Oh.. Had a similar comment 😂
@VetSemperFi
@VetSemperFi Жыл бұрын
I was taught to drive defensively which means I'm constantly thinking and calculating in 'What if' moments. That mindset has saved me more times then I care to mention while operating a car, motorcycle, sailboat, or tractor. I'm not a pilot but your advice resonates to my core!
@kenstickney8678
@kenstickney8678 3 жыл бұрын
20 plus years ago, when I started flying I had those fears. But when I read the statics on the cause of air plane accidents I found 70% were cause by fuel management. I purchased a plane with 4 tanks and more fuel than I can fly before I need a break. Got my instrument rating to solve the next issue. These choices haves me the training and confidence to fly safely. And I always think where can I land NOW. Thanks Mike.
@jimcripps3612
@jimcripps3612 3 жыл бұрын
It seems if something can go wrong it Wilga wrong. Sorry couldn't resist that. Regards, Jim in NI UK
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple
@FlyingPlaneAndSimple 3 жыл бұрын
Nice, you beat me to it, same pun!
@skipdreadman8765
@skipdreadman8765 3 жыл бұрын
That's a shot you just have to take.
@nbtmx1
@nbtmx1 3 жыл бұрын
He can look on the brightside he's only had 1 problem in getting it up though ......oh wait that could be taken the wrong 😳
@steveb7310
@steveb7310 3 жыл бұрын
Can never resist the pun.
@anthonyrstrawbridge
@anthonyrstrawbridge 3 жыл бұрын
Pâté over Donner pass. ( I kinda hope no one reads this)
@joshschwint368
@joshschwint368 3 жыл бұрын
I think i can speak for everyone, we all miss Draco. Cant wait to see Some flying footage of Scrappy.
@juergengnoss7892
@juergengnoss7892 3 жыл бұрын
Nice point Mike, and for all of you that like to fly safe, here a short story about safety training. I've got my PPL-A back in 1990 I remember safety training was a big chunk of the overall flight training as well as of type ratings, but German flight schools doesn't let you go into a real stall with following spin. The idea behind that is to recognize the situation before you get into it. As soon as I've got my PPL, I grabbed a pilot friend, an "old eagle" acrobatic flight certified, and asked him to get me into a real spin and recovery. We got to 6000ft above ground and he did the first one, explaining exactly where we are and what he's doing. I remember as today, once the wind shield was full of spinning ground, I was stuck in my seat knowing that if I was alone on the plane I would never have recovered from it, even if I knew what to do. After first recovery my friend told me to do the same, but I said, no, you again, I was still so impressed by what just has happened. 1000ft loss in altitude in one only spin. There is no time to settle, you have to react immediately. He did one more, this time I was completely aware of what happens and could count with him the number of turns and could say when to hit the rudder. The next I did on my own, perfectly. That was a really great experience, completely unexpected, I thought I could handle an aircraft, but was told the other way. That experience accompanied me while all my 11000+ hours of flying since then. Later on practicing acrobatic flights in a certified C150, or playing wild above or between the clouds, I don't remember how many times I stalled the engine in all kind of flight positions, but never had a problem to recover. VFR is staying free of clouds, but what happens the first time you get into the clouds? Sitting inside a glass, having all milk around you and now trust your instruments is another thing pilots should experience, even if they are not IFR certified. It shouldn't happen, but it can. Today I know, knowing what to do, isn't sufficient, you have to practice as closed as possible to the situation you're practicing for.
@EvanMJones
@EvanMJones 3 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking today that we hadn't seen Mike lately. Always a pleasure to see what you're up to!
@GravityKnightFlying
@GravityKnightFlying 3 жыл бұрын
Had 3 quit in 1000hrs. 2 on takeoff, one of which was in a crappy field. When I started flying 8-9 years ago, I just asked (hoped) that I wouldn't have an engine out for a while until I was really ready.... I was given that... can't ask for more! As you said, It WILL happen eventually. To anyone who hasn't experienced it yet, there is nothing quite like it, intensity at a new level!... but keep your head on and you can work through it. Great video and talk Mike!!
@danielwang2956
@danielwang2956 3 жыл бұрын
Other pilots on KZfaq: Oh no the FAA just called me Mike Patey: I'm gonna give the FAA a call
@1STGeneral
@1STGeneral 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Patey on line 1.....I'm not answering it
@davecasey4341
@davecasey4341 3 жыл бұрын
He probably has them on speed dial on his phone.
@Newberntrains
@Newberntrains 3 жыл бұрын
@@davecasey4341 with him designing airplanes im sure hes respected from the FAA if he calls on something like this
@teejfalconaf
@teejfalconaf 3 жыл бұрын
Chuck Norris tells the FAA he has a number for them to call.
@woodywoodward9624
@woodywoodward9624 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, your 3-2-1 engine failure reminded me of my closest call to an in-flight failure in an Aeronca during my PPL training. I flew 50 miles out into the Illinois countryside to take some aerial photos of my neighbors new house build. Just as I hit my 500’ AGL target to take the photos, the engine started most awful backfiring and frightening noises, but I could still keep it at 500” AGL, but only at 38 MPH IAS. I selected the right mag to troubleshoot the problem and was greeted by SILENCE! Back to BOTH, and then flying 50 miles at 38 MPH takes a whole lot longer than the 75 MPH outbound. It turned into an hour and 20 minute search for the next emergency landing spot, but I did make it back to my home base. The single housing, dual magneto had a catastrophic internal failure, and I think it was running intermittently on just 2 cylinders. What a day that was! I totally agree with your statements about being “ahead of the airplane.” Chuck Yeager talked about aircraft failures during flight by having Plan B, then Plan C, then Plan D, E, F.....!
@blancolirio
@blancolirio 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent safety brief Mike!
@MikePatey
@MikePatey 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks buddy 🤠
@superskullmaster
@superskullmaster 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Patey Did you see my suggestion about the second Wilga?
@llshamelessll
@llshamelessll 3 жыл бұрын
Its just a matter of time.
@daniels2761
@daniels2761 3 жыл бұрын
A good reminder to put the thing on the ground ASAP if something is wrong, even if it is still running.
@robertwoods3479
@robertwoods3479 3 жыл бұрын
what you are doing is totally wrong placing so much weight in the grams is dumb it does not belong there and puts stress where it does not belong
@adriangpop
@adriangpop 3 жыл бұрын
I suppose the old adage goes, any landing that you walk away from is a good landing, any landing that you get to use the airplane again is an exceptional landing! Glad you're still with us.
@lauraradigan4114
@lauraradigan4114 3 жыл бұрын
Mike: Four weeks ago, while flying my 1945 7AC Champ, I suffered a engine failure due to a cracked fuel hard line. You are absolutely correct, there are two kinds of pilots, ones that have had a engine go out and those that will. I had to put Champie down in a cow pasture and was unhurt but unfortunately, it was quite rough and severely damaged the landing gear. Keep making these awesome videos. We all learn from sharing our experiences. Glad your ok.
@skipdreadman8765
@skipdreadman8765 3 жыл бұрын
Hope your plane is going to be okay. That's a piece of history.
@jimx1169
@jimx1169 3 жыл бұрын
Stockpiling the world supply of Wilgas?? lol
@TheJttv
@TheJttv 3 жыл бұрын
This will now be his 4th he has owned.
@jimx1169
@jimx1169 3 жыл бұрын
​@@TheJttv The red one which became Draco, the white one, and the green one. Was there another one? Edit: I remember now. Mike owned the first of the flat-engined Wilgas BEFORE he bought the last flat-engined Wilga that became Draco. Counting is hard! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hZuCgsuXmrnToac.html&ab_channel=Movieclips
@N1RKW
@N1RKW 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheJttv - Which means that he has owned something like 20% of all of the Wilga 2000s ever produced. He must really like them.
@jamesburleson1916
@jamesburleson1916 3 жыл бұрын
He's getting ready for the Wilgapocalypse.
@1STGeneral
@1STGeneral 3 жыл бұрын
If they ever have air shows again when the announcement of Mike Patey's Flying dragons The wilga's squadron comprised of Mike's new X-Draco wilga's piloted by the Flying Cowboys the crowd will go wild just a couple more chosen wilga's needed.....or not
@Bryan-qd4fk
@Bryan-qd4fk 3 жыл бұрын
My uncle, the one who got me into aviation, was flying at night about a month ago. We still don't know quite what happened, but we think the engine went out. He ended up crashing a 1000 ft short of the runway. We lost him and the other passenger in the front seat. Thankfully, the man in the back seat survived and is recovering. My uncle was the safest and smartest man I knew. The plane had been serviced just a week before the crash. We don't have all the answers right now, and may never have them. So please be safe out there everyone.
@martinlynn3699
@martinlynn3699 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear it. I've had two lost engines but by God's grace I landed without bending either airplane. But you never know when He'll decide it's my turn to "come on up." "Thou shalt not test the the Lord thy God" comes to mind, and I never want to do anything that would add undue risk to a flight, but I can't imagine not flying, in spite of the risk. I imagine your uncle felt the same way.
@mark675
@mark675 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss 😔
@timothydockery534
@timothydockery534 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry for your loss
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so sorry for your loss.
@imaner76
@imaner76 3 жыл бұрын
Aww no. I'm so sorry for the loss, my thoughts are with you and your family right now. If you feel up to it, lets us know how things pan out. My condolences once again.
@aaahtex902
@aaahtex902 3 жыл бұрын
1 More Mike = **DON'T FLY IN BAD WEATHER!!!** THANK YOU FOR THE INVALUABLE ADVICE!!!
@krissfemmpaws1029
@krissfemmpaws1029 3 жыл бұрын
Good to know it wasn't something major with the enging or airframe. Dad drilled into me "It's not a matter of if the enging will quit, it's a matter of when will it happen and will you be ready for it." Dad's flying career spaned 64 years flying in some of the most inhospitable territory of North America... I think his words of wisdom were hard earned... the last I knew his DC-3 was still sitting on a mountain side in Central British Columbia because of fuel starvation...
@jerryaschenbrenner712
@jerryaschenbrenner712 3 жыл бұрын
Mike - Thankyou for all you do to promote safety in aviation. The message about single engine high mountain flying, nighttime flying and other risky actions can’t be re-enforced enough.
@MrJugsstein
@MrJugsstein 3 жыл бұрын
Mike Hi from Down under in Australia. I did my time in Submarines an environment that likes to kill you if you make a mistake, then when got out I got into Aviation another unforgiving environment.. I did my flight training in Tulsa with a man who became my closest friend. A ex Vietnam Huey pilot. The wisest lesson he ever taught me was "fly with 2 what if's " fly with a plan if at that moment something goes wrong and the next thing goes wrong do you have a plan. Got me on the ground in one piece more than once. Enjoy all the videos Will
@Jonnydeerhunter
@Jonnydeerhunter 3 жыл бұрын
This is fresh for me... On Friday 10/16/20 I had an engine failure at night and had to do a forced landing in a unharvested corn field in my 1972 Piper Cherokee 140. As it turns out I made the Critical error of not having enough fuel to complete the flight... I thought I had looked into the tanks and had seen more than enough fuel but apparently I had not or just saw something that wasn't there. Just a reminder to all of my pilot friends to triple check on your preflight checks. It's by the grace of God that I had the presence of mind to keep up my airspeed And not spin it in. It definitely has made me think twice about single engine at night, especially over terrain. The aircraft was totaled but again by the grace of God I walked out with only a small bump on my forehead that was gone the next day.
@joshuamcneese2603
@joshuamcneese2603 3 жыл бұрын
You’re one of the main reasons I’m going through flight training right now. Hearing about things like this doesn’t scare me away from flying. I just try to learn from it and apply it to when I fly.
@andyfpt
@andyfpt 3 жыл бұрын
Just watching and listening to Mike Patey makes me happy. He's such a positive, friendly, brilliant and driven person. I often watch his vids while I'm exercising and when I think about quitting early, I think Mike wouldn't quit till finished, so I keep going :)
@tommuhlemanjr.3871
@tommuhlemanjr.3871 3 жыл бұрын
You are definitely an inspiration to all of us pilot types everywhere Mike. I have watched, rewatched and learned lots of valuable lessons from every video you have ever made. I am amazed and humbled by the resources you have that enable you to go snatch up new Wilga’s. I, on the other hand, am struggling at the moment just to buy a decent 4x4 truck/SUV. I’m hoping to start a KZfaq Aviation Roadshow where I travel around and showcase various aircraft, applications such as air racing, aerial firefighting/water bombers, STOL and bush planes, float planes, air ambulances and anything else I can find. You will be one of the very first people I hope to interview. Hopefully I will have all of my infrastructure problems resolved by next summer.
@craigpennington1251
@craigpennington1251 3 жыл бұрын
Very good advice to fly by. Always be prepared for the bad things that may happen. 100% correct on the mechanics of things braking with no fault of your own. I've been there too. Crankshafts coming apart, driveshafts coming thru the floor board at 7 grand rpm, pushrods going thru the hood when engine blows. And then there's fire. Hoping that will never happen in the air but prepare for it.
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver 3 жыл бұрын
I've had 5 engine failures in 4000 hours. They do quit and never when it's the best spot to land... always be looking for a landing spot, always. Glad you are OK! Nice plane.
@DiverJames
@DiverJames 3 жыл бұрын
2500 hours in my log book, 3 engine failures...seems to be about the right rate ;)
@thomasaltruda
@thomasaltruda 3 жыл бұрын
13,000+ hours over 20 years, not one engine failure.. maybe I’m doing something wrong...
@helicopterdriver
@helicopterdriver 3 жыл бұрын
@@thomasaltruda Lady Luck is your friend... keep looking for landing spots anyway. When it quits, it's a really bad feeling if you don't already know what you can make from there. Dead silence in cruise or a sputter on take off is very startling...Always have a plan... Fly Safe.
@tropicthndr
@tropicthndr 3 жыл бұрын
Probably all cirrus, so many eng failures on those.
@AkPacerPilot
@AkPacerPilot 3 жыл бұрын
“And he’s still laughing about it” 😂 nicely done my friend! Thankfully I’ve only had one engine quit turning on me, it was related to the fuel switch not perfectly in the indent. I was able to troubleshoot and get it restarted. You have to train train train and train again...
@JustPlaneSilly
@JustPlaneSilly 3 жыл бұрын
Oooooh Mike Patey got a merch shelf. I'm going shopping!
@salvatoremilitello8490
@salvatoremilitello8490 3 жыл бұрын
Next ull have a pattey pillow the question is which pattey did u get! Gotta Collect them all!!! 🤣lmao 🤣
@MrChevyman962000
@MrChevyman962000 3 жыл бұрын
"Best Hugs" lmao! Still chuckle over that one!
@FloridaLightSport
@FloridaLightSport 3 жыл бұрын
So true, but as my Daddy used to say “the engine doesn’t make the airplane fly, it just makes it go further “. Keep flying the airplane.
@acerc.e.4279
@acerc.e.4279 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah i The reason why aircraft fly because of DIFFERENTIAL PRESSURE. But without engine aircraft and the phyics cannot fly alone..
@kevinvoges3447
@kevinvoges3447 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, On your way home from NY with your new Wilga, you and your partner stopped in at KSAR (Sparta, IL) where you talked to my friends and me for 1/2 hr. What a treat! You also signed my Best Tugs tug...thank you! As an owner of a steel technology company, I deeply admire your innovative talents filled with ingenuity. But I speak for probably most everyone that we mostly admire your humility and how you talk so highly about your family. As you left the KSAR airport office that day headed for your Wilga out on the ramp, I blurted out, "May God bless you both". Well, He did as you and your partner landed the Wilga safely. May God continue to bless you all and your families. We praise God that He brought you both home safely. Now let's get back to work! Kevin Voges
@MikePatey
@MikePatey 3 жыл бұрын
Great to meet you 🤠
@akfireems
@akfireems 3 жыл бұрын
Same mind set when I taught emergency vehicle operations in the fire service. While most instructors were teaching "defensive" driving, with the premise of what to do IF another driver did something that would impact your operations, I taught students what I called "offensive" driving; that being it's not a matter of if, but when, another driver, or situation will occur to impact your operation behind the wheel. Great advance for pilots.
@chrisbowpiloto
@chrisbowpiloto 3 жыл бұрын
On the roads where I operate, that is a given 😂
@thomasaltruda
@thomasaltruda 3 жыл бұрын
Make a “twin” Wilga by attaching them at the wings like a P38! Lol
@daverobinsonTnT
@daverobinsonTnT 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, happy to hear you're ok . For me, practicing emergency procedures until we don't get them wrong, is the best tool in our safety kit :-)
@johnbazaar8440
@johnbazaar8440 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re ok. “Something will go wrong. Stay alert, think ahead, plan your escape route.” Loving the Scrappy build and hoping to see the movie “Draco Rising”. 😁 Thanks, John
@artd.
@artd. 3 жыл бұрын
In my aviation career I have had 4 engine failures and have been fortunate to get all on the ground with no damage. Mr Mike you are so right to always maintain proficiency and continued training." Always expect the unexpected". Great Video Mr. Mike
@flywiththeguys
@flywiththeguys 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds crazy, but I really love sitting down with people and talk about engine out situations. Mostly for the information and understanding how to handle them.
@johnd7129
@johnd7129 3 жыл бұрын
Your attitude towards safety is without peer. You are a credit to the aviation industry and your family. We are all schooled to expect the unexpected, but you have put that advice in such simple terms. Bless you.
@GrantGrove
@GrantGrove 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah Mike engine failures do happen I've had two in an Avid with the early Rotax 65 hp. Fuel issue when the carburetor loosened and an electrical broken wire. Both shortly after TO one with just enough altitude for a 180 back to the runway and the second landing on a frontage road adjacent to the field. No damage and very good learning experiences. "Back to work"!
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 3 жыл бұрын
Holding a tight bottom.....Thanks...Super glad every one is safe....Thanks again Mike...!
@marekdenn
@marekdenn 3 жыл бұрын
I had the engine go out on takeoff in a Cessna about 500’ above the ground. Managed to turn around and land back at the runway without stalling and dropping to my death. 👍
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell 3 жыл бұрын
marekdenn In other words you pushed the nose down. Good job! That’s one that needlessly kills pilots.
@marekdenn
@marekdenn 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcoryell Yeah 180 degree turn while gliding back to the grass strip. Had quite a tail wind while landing which was the biggest potential problem.
@userjarabecko
@userjarabecko 3 жыл бұрын
@@marekdenn probably a good thing in the turn as it pushed u to turn faster
@glenn.duffind2695
@glenn.duffind2695 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike!.. Every flight, every takeoff, every pattern, looking for that power off event... I fly day, VFR only, IFR is "I Follow Roads" so I have a place to let down... yes, had a few power failures back in the Ultralight days, early 1980's... keeps ya on track!... I just finished installing a new Power Flow exhaust in my Cherokee, and did a lot more, fixing, improving, checking, knowing that airplane better makes me a better pilot.... will be test flying her this week.. More power, more speed!... Flying is Fun!!...
@scottiopizza7565
@scottiopizza7565 3 жыл бұрын
My brother is a retired aircraft controller and worked many years at Tracon N90 handling traffic for Newark, LaGuardia, JFK, a few smaller airports. He talked down 2 small craft with engine failures and was commended for at least one of them. One he arranged with law enforcement for the plane to land on a road, as there was no decent place in a populated area to put the craft down. The other one he was able to guide to a closed small airport. The plane had enough altitude for someone to open the airport and turn the runway lights on. Years after it happened, somehow my sister obtained the recording of the conversation and shared it with our family, great stuff there! Both planes safely landed; but the strange thing is the plane in the second incident without power somehow flew the plane farther than the glide ratio should have allowed.
@swampratt36
@swampratt36 3 жыл бұрын
Just WOW ! Had no idea you had experienced that many failures ! I've logged over 2 million miles in a semi , and have only experienced 3 engine failures , 2 accidents ,both times automobile struck me ,non chargeable events for myself . God Bless and God speed my friend !
@j.till_z
@j.till_z 3 жыл бұрын
A wealth of institutional knowledge! Mike is passing down his knowledge and experiences for the next generation aviators. I hope you youngsters are paying attention!
@PapaPilot88
@PapaPilot88 3 жыл бұрын
Passed my CFI checkride today and you posted, how could today get any better? Thank you for always keeping me inspired and getting through these hard times!
@Jonnydeerhunter
@Jonnydeerhunter 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats!
@davecalico3273
@davecalico3273 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, Anything U and Mark Have To Say iS of Value! Thanks For Being Our WingMan !!!
@xpressotel
@xpressotel 3 жыл бұрын
Shared knowledge is priceless your selfless contribution to flight safety is greatly appreciated,the world needs more Mike Pateys
@donaldendsley6199
@donaldendsley6199 3 жыл бұрын
What I've learned working a nurse: What ever you are afraid of happening will happen. So learn how to handle your fears, and take the appropriate precautions to keep stuff like that from happening.
@additive8924
@additive8924 2 жыл бұрын
I remember going to an air show when I was a kid. There was an old-timer showing off his ultralight and he said " if you fly long enough something will go wrong." I had it explained to me that the mentality behind that quote is. If you keep it in your mind that something will go wrong eventually you're less likely to panic and make a mistake when it does.
@boydgrandy5769
@boydgrandy5769 3 жыл бұрын
A cantilevered assembly subject to vibration will eventually fail. In this case, the rivets also provided a stress riser in the flange until the bracket failed around the rivets. We, in the nuclear industry, have some experience with cantilevered assemblies failing through fatigue failure. We eventually went back through our small bore steam systems and reworked every one of them to reduce the moment arm of those piping hangs, which had begun to fail a few years following a 30% power upgrade modification to the plant. They forgot the small bore piping. The piping announced its presence by cracking socket welds.
@datruth9872
@datruth9872 3 жыл бұрын
As a former back seat rider in a hue slick , I understand the hard landing thing (engine going out) didnt have to clean out my drawers but still THE PUCKER FACTOR ! I think it makes you appreciate the smooth rides more. 😎
@user-dg7sy8cz3b
@user-dg7sy8cz3b 3 жыл бұрын
Metal fatigue is real. Think of the Comet jet Papa Yankee story. Metallurgy technology has come along way thankfully, but problems are not always visible. Especially in heat effected zones around welds. Mike’s energy is amazing and inspiring! Thanks Mike!
@wackaircaftmechanic2312
@wackaircaftmechanic2312 3 жыл бұрын
"I've had numerous engine failures" me who flys gliders: I DON'T HAVE ENGINES!
@tomcoryell
@tomcoryell 3 жыл бұрын
1996 Toyota Camry Fewer moving parts to fail.
@hgj2019
@hgj2019 3 жыл бұрын
In 30+ years of managing airports and over 40 years as a private pilot the only on-airport fatality I personally saw was a glider pilot. He augered in on a downwind to base “graveyard spiral” - too much bottom rudder? He clearly died on impact or within seconds of impact. Never unbuckled his seatbelt. Bled enough from his nose to get a little on his chin. A scene I’ll never forget.
@wackaircaftmechanic2312
@wackaircaftmechanic2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@tomcoryell Less maintenance fees
@wackaircaftmechanic2312
@wackaircaftmechanic2312 3 жыл бұрын
@@hgj2019 That must be so brutal. It sucks to see someone die right in front of you. some gliders are deadly on your base and final turns. They do go into a huge stall. father got in one not too long ago and was able to recover at 200 less than 200 feet
@christhirion9474
@christhirion9474 3 жыл бұрын
Me too every landing is a power out landing.
@bradkeener07
@bradkeener07 3 жыл бұрын
I lost an engine in a 210, Mike. Crankshaft sheared at 4,000ft over Florida. Was able to find a pasture to land in and walk away with no injuries or damage to the plane.
@prestonmiller9552
@prestonmiller9552 3 жыл бұрын
As the saying goes, "when things go bad they usually go bad all the way". Fortunately that is not ALWAYS TRUE but many times it can be. It's never fear mongering when we tell people to always be prepared to know where to put it down in case something goes wrong. Enjoy the scenery while always scanning for where you might land as safely as possible just in case that rare failure does happen to you. Best advice any student can have drilled into their brain. Thanks Mike.
@99bx99
@99bx99 3 жыл бұрын
Mike is exactly right. If you fly long enough you Will have a forced landing. I've had six in thirty year (no wrecks), two while flying other people's airplanes. The best one for bragging rights is a total propeller failure on takeoff at 200' AGL and a teardrop 180 to land on the downwind runway, only possible in a canard airplane because they don't stall, they just don't. I personally know two canard pilots who have pulled that off also. Then there was the forced landing into a long closed, trashed runway inside a prison near Alturas, CA. I wrote up the story years ago for AOPA.
@PoasLodge
@PoasLodge 3 жыл бұрын
My dad had over a dozen emergency situations that put him on the ground during a 100,000+ hour GA career. Walked away from all of them except one. Tried to save the airplane and it put him in the hospital for 9 months. Lesson he drilled into me... f*#+@! the airplane, walk away. Plan for the worst, be prepared to work the problem then expect the best and have fun.
@sophiejaysstuff4026
@sophiejaysstuff4026 3 жыл бұрын
Good advice. 100,000 hrs is 11.4 years of not touching the ground.
@billroberts9182
@billroberts9182 3 жыл бұрын
I had a factory oil return line perforate while flying over 5 feet of snow- I was on wheels. I landed short of my destination because of a full bladder when I discovered the problem. I've always thought I could have a mechanical at any time. I fly pretty high over bodies of water.
@erikpalmer354
@erikpalmer354 3 жыл бұрын
This is the only thing that has made me smile, thanks Mike 🙏
@Russellsperry
@Russellsperry 3 жыл бұрын
This is by far my favorite KZfaq channel.
@stotheh
@stotheh 3 жыл бұрын
"There's 24 of you out there". Er Mikey you own three of the Wilga 2000 run of 24 dude...
@RobertLowery
@RobertLowery 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the FAA will end up sending him 2 or 3 memos to check his bracket.
@mrbob9556
@mrbob9556 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobertLowery It looks like a cheap part made in China to me. I don't understand why not make it stronger in the first place. why cut corners with such critical components. It makes me sick watch some ones life on the line for a small peace cheap metal and rivets.
@izzyplusplusplus1004
@izzyplusplusplus1004 3 жыл бұрын
@@mrbob9556 Spot welds kill.
@frotobaggins7169
@frotobaggins7169 3 жыл бұрын
@@izzyplusplusplus1004 i'm curious, how so? i know planes are very diffiernt but cars are spot welded together and have been for decades. personally, in a plane, i would prefer full seam weld on that bracket.
@izzyplusplusplus1004
@izzyplusplusplus1004 3 жыл бұрын
@@frotobaggins7169 I was mistaken, those are rivets. However, flexing is also death waiting to happen.
@marcs990
@marcs990 3 жыл бұрын
On the engine out vid at the end, it just goes to show that you don’t give up hope & keep trying to get that engine restarted WITHIN REASON. Obviously in a situation such as that other things may take priority first, I can’t go through the list as it’s case specific & exponential, but in this case there were 2 pilots aboard which meant that can carry on troubleshooting & trying a restart until the last possible moment. Doing that meant in this case a softish landing in a field over a possible fatal ditching in water. That day luck was on there side & thx for the safety reminder & also ensuring the FAA knew so they can issue out emergency safety directives.
@memphislarson1473
@memphislarson1473 3 жыл бұрын
One of my friends saw you in Pueblo, that’s awesome! Glad to see the next generation of your work.
@walterweigert9840
@walterweigert9840 3 жыл бұрын
Hello Mike! I´m so happy you are back! Luckely for all of us, you had nothing else than a small throwback, but also for all aviators, sharing your expirience always makes aviation safer. Thank you. As most of the rest of subscribers, I´m axious to see what´s next for Scrappy: wings, fuel tanks, etc, etc, but most of all; WE WANT TO SEE YOU FLYING HER!!! I send you a big virtual hugg from NE patagonia, Argentina. Greetings to your family and to Ron.
@WJSpies
@WJSpies 3 жыл бұрын
Lighter materials on aircraft creates opportunity for Murphy's Law to pop up, "if it can it will." Metal fatigue is always a possibility especially w/ recips. Who the hell expected that garl darn piece to crack like that? But it did! Engineers are human like you say, maybe juggling to many tasks that week, who knew? Six months later the FAA issues an 'advisory' to perform a dye penitrent check on offending aluminum bracket, or an in force advisory wasn't done. Oops! Glad you're safe and on the ground Mike, lucky you could nurse something out of that engine to keep the beast in level flight. It doesn't always end that way, especially over mountains. Love you videos!
@baomao7243
@baomao7243 3 жыл бұрын
I tend to agree with you on night ops. They can be beautiful flights. Smooth air with easy-to-spot airports is oh-so-tempting. But here in the PNW you have lots of unlit tree-covered terrain so for nights I tend to think of “IFF navigation” to provide a high-likelihood way out in the event of engine out. Otherwise, without a compelling reason, I can wait for daylight ops...
@tinusmaartens994
@tinusmaartens994 Жыл бұрын
I've watched all Mike's Videos with my dad but watching it again is almost better than the first time ! Amazing work, design, and caricature from Mike !
@tylerdurden2644
@tylerdurden2644 3 жыл бұрын
Four engine failures last in a twin. Two on takeoff. I credit safe landings on starting in gliders. It teaches you the perspective you need when power is lost and you have to land safely. For me it made me better understand the margins when power is gone. Highly recommend if your starting out to do gliders first if you can. I can thank my father for encouraging that. He started in 65hp cubs prior to being a Marine aviator in ww2. Told me leaning with little or no power would prepare you for 2000+ hp down the road.
@baughmanaviation2450
@baughmanaviation2450 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. I have been flying 20+ years without a hiccup and this last year I had two catastrophic engine failures. First one was in a Stinson 108 and the other a Cessna 150. Nothing like an engine failure to put you into your A game instantly!!
@boe7613
@boe7613 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see you safe and sound. Thanks for sharing 👍🙏😊
@SmittySmithsonite
@SmittySmithsonite 3 жыл бұрын
You're an asset to the aviation community, Mike! Great info! Beautiful Wilga there, too - Draco 2 is coming!! Nice "Men Without Hats" clip there, BTW! Safety Dance - that's a great tune! I wonder how many people knew what that was ... 😁 Enjoyed the news clip, too - great stuff as always!!
@Nonya855
@Nonya855 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video. You make a fantastic point regarding mindset on power loss in flight. I’m in the SWA D225 program and am currently going over this. I feel with my last flight school there was not enough emphasis on the exact topic you cover and the mindset that will ensure the highest level of safety. Thank you for this video.
@staceymiller4409
@staceymiller4409 3 жыл бұрын
You are a inspiration to all of us mike. We love you keep safe and if I ever see you flying on floats with your water rudders down I’ll be coming for my case of beer my friend LOL Thanks for another great video
@CaptainScarlet1961
@CaptainScarlet1961 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with your philosophy about flying & expecting something to go wrong because people make mistakes, I applied the same philosophy to riding motorcycles on the road which is why after 30 years of doing so I still have all my bits & I'm still alive! Every day I rode it was with the express contemplation that someone & probably more than once would nearly kill me for a myriad of reasons, be it lack of attention or just plain negligence!
@paulw.4834
@paulw.4834 3 жыл бұрын
Moke... this is a great reality check for pilots...and anybody that operates any piece of equipment. You approach shouldn't dissuade any of us away from flying...in fact this is going to be shared with a 16 yo who is working on her ticket. Your advice is the CORRECT mental mind set. Thanks. Glad you're safe. :)
@skipdreadman8765
@skipdreadman8765 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for posting, Mike. Really enjoy your videos and think the world of you and your family. Keep it up! Get Scrappy in the air!
@mohavedweller3273
@mohavedweller3273 3 жыл бұрын
As an A&P I absolutely love watching your videos, this one really hit home as I'm always looking for the all hairline cracks that a lot of people overlook, the way I do inspections is I always remember this one thing....there is no place to pull over up there.....so I make myself look, look and look again. Great videos Mike! Looking forward to "Scrappys" first flight vid 🤘
@jram7047
@jram7047 3 жыл бұрын
Ive never flown ,im a combat veteran and I will tell you the absolute best way to live is play the "what if" game. It keeps you constantly prepared for any issues that come up. Its not meant to create fear its to be prepared for whatever happens. This is the difference between someone who panics and someone who lives
@mikemaloney5830
@mikemaloney5830 Жыл бұрын
Mike!!! Electric motors have TWO moving parts and NO fuel/ air problems. Redundancy is relatively simple. The world ( me) need YOU to build a viable Electric airplane! Solar charging while on the ramp would be great. ( fly to Telluride.... charge on the ramp while skiing?) big corporations Are bogged down by group think. YOU can solve the range issue. I love your videos and work ethic and videos. I drove 26 hours to see Scrappy at Oshkosh.
@Delmar829
@Delmar829 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT words. Thank you so much for this.
@v1rotait23
@v1rotait23 3 жыл бұрын
A super video Mike. Like in your training, I always had it drumed into my head by my instructors, to always expect the unexpected, and always have a landing place somewhere in front or behind, as you fly across the countryside. Even these days (no longer flying due to $) as I'm driving along in my car, I'm searching for good spots over the fence for that forced landing! :)
@joedevine7953
@joedevine7953 3 жыл бұрын
Well said. On my very first helicopter ride, we had a chip light and had to autorotate to the ground. Landed well. And the pilot looked over and dead panned, “ Any crash landing you can walk away from is a good landing.” And 3 months later I’m in AIT, learning how to keep UH-1H’s airworthy. So yeah. Fly them like any thing will happen, because it can happen.
@nanookdan
@nanookdan 3 жыл бұрын
Mike, you have a lot of heart putting yourself out there to learn from and listen to. Thanks for sharing your inspiration and experience and keep the greasy side down!
@charlesstorey8380
@charlesstorey8380 3 жыл бұрын
yea a new video great , look forward to each and every one , understand safety had to stop flying because of phiscal problems but still looking up every time I hear a plane , still love it .thanks Mike for sharing these
@brentheilman8910
@brentheilman8910 3 жыл бұрын
Mike you and your brother have such awesome personalities! Wish i worked with guys like you everyday!
@MrSilaskling
@MrSilaskling 3 жыл бұрын
“ whatever can go wrong, will go wrong” It happens in all facets of life, sometimes it’s a bit scary, other times it’s downright horrifying; most of the time outcome depends on how you react though.... in the end: life is what you make it; make it precious and memorable. Keep up the great work!
@ashleymarks6144
@ashleymarks6144 3 жыл бұрын
Back in 98 or 99 I was a student in a C1 Katana out of PVU at UVSC. WE were about 3000AGL just west of west mountain and the RPM began to spike while the oil pressure dumped. We ran rough for a second or two and then silence. I thought how weird it was to see the prop sitting still while still in the air. We glided to an amazing landing in a pasture between Spanish Fork and west mountain. It happens. We manage those risks and develop controls to mitigate those risks.
@flycory
@flycory 3 жыл бұрын
Boom! Good advice we all need.
@MikePatey
@MikePatey 3 жыл бұрын
Love you buddy, can’t wait to go flying soon
@TomOwenVids
@TomOwenVids 3 жыл бұрын
Wow- glad down safely. Yes, precheck and training go a long way! I really enjoy your videos and am inspired by your creativity, thought process and work ethic. It's interesting that I just came across the Gentry Mikesell family crash video... Be smart out there and stay safe, Tom
@jessyeaviation9201
@jessyeaviation9201 3 жыл бұрын
What you said about the engine failure is absolutly true.Every pilot must be aware his engine can quit and he must be prepared to cope with an emergency landing at any time.
@johnreed8872
@johnreed8872 3 жыл бұрын
Words to live by... Thanks Mike! Oh yeah , PURE PATEY!
@matchthat5053
@matchthat5053 3 жыл бұрын
Went to aviation school in 1985 and thought why not put a parachute on the airplane in case of trouble. Happy to see it in use today.
@ik04
@ik04 3 жыл бұрын
I had almost the same thing happen to me with the throttle cable. It broke off at a partial power setting and I was able to fly all the way back from the Bering Sea to Bethel, AK very slowly! I was lucky.
@Capitaine.Albator
@Capitaine.Albator 3 жыл бұрын
Glad you’re safe! Thanks for the share, always a pleasure. You could buy the Wilga plant a make a new version of improved certified Wilga’s... Now back to work 💪🏻🤠 on Scrappy!!!! 👍🏻✌🏻🇨🇦
@jesusm.pereztriana9319
@jesusm.pereztriana9319 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad of having you back safe and sound, sir.
@arizonamisfits202
@arizonamisfits202 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see a new video, meaning all is good. Thanks for the safety tips. Your in our prayers, and excited to see more of your (safe) amazing adventures. We thank you for your commitment to safety and willingness to share your mistakes.
@scheusselmensch5713
@scheusselmensch5713 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, on my aircraft and our company aircraft, if it is possible, we have two points of attachment on push pull cables. Generally this is made up of Adel clamps somewhere close to the factory clamp assembly. Even a good lacing job can suffice as a redundancy.
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