Giving those fools on the Ward air time is not okay. Please don't give attention to evil, they love it that you are giving them attention.

Glory to God 🙌 for such faithful servants at Apologia

Could you guys share that book Jeff is using to quote them? I have been engaged with our mormon friends and think it might be helpful. Thank you.

You made your name of the back of bullying people, ambushing them in “gotcha moments” The Bible is a subjective documents, the New Testament a carefully curated document meant to suffice the political agenda of Romans who wielded it against the subversives, who were true Christians, whose railed against corrupt society, You instead, don’t follow even the most basic tenets, of Christianity, love thy neighbor, and instead follow along in the same sort of fame seeking as other people’s expense, motivations of corrupt people the same. You are a misguided person and whatever you are you are not a follower of good things. You do not have faith and are not a practitioner. People such as yourself will not be here to do the things you do any longer.

Imagine telling people of their faith that they believe what you say they believe.... lol...... we do believe that in the Father's house their are many mansions and we can get one..... but it is a lie that we teach that you will get your own planet. We believe the eventual end is likely, very possibly the likelihood that we may get a planet of our own but there's no doctrine on it. There's literally zero doctrine that says "you get a planet"..... we teach that the eventual possibility is that we inherit all that the father has... which means you inherit a planet You teach this same theology. You surely teach that you inherit all that the father has....if you teach that, you teach that you will inherit a planet like the father has.

23:41 It sounds like Islam 72 virgins Islam & LDS seem similar

​@@kathleenking47I often say Joseph Smith is basically an American version of Muhammad

​@@kathleenking47also Hinduism, many gods

Recovering Catholic here....yes gaslighters are everywhere!

@@CornerstoneMinistry316 So did the man himself: “I will be to this generation a second Mohammed, whose motto in treating for peace was ‘the Alcoran [Koran] or the Sword.’ So shall it eventually be with us -- ‘Joseph Smith or the Sword!’ (Joseph Smith made this statement at the conclusion of a speech in the public square at Far West, Missouri on October 14, 1838. This particular quote is documented in Fawn M. Brodie, No Man Knows My History, second edition, (New York: Alfred A. Knopf, 1971), p. 230-231.)

How do you get the devil to admit they were wrong? please don't fuel their narcissism. IGNORE them!

@@inchristalone25 How do you get the devil to admit they were wrong? Are you calling everyone from Ward Radio “the devil,” incapable of admitting wrong? I’m not sure what you’re saying.

@@StEpHeNno22 These guys definitely had evil spirits working through them. And they don't seem to care.

White underwear keeps them in check FREE MASON MORMONS 😂😂😂😂

They accuse him because they are doing that exact same thing. No one talks about Mormon child trafficking and satanic ritual sacrifices.

Scoffing and trash talking about others, is mostly what I hear in the episodes. I don't like listening to them.

Sarcasm goes right over your head huh?

We do not teach that you get a planet!!!! That's not how it works!!!! You want a planet??!! You have to create it! You don't just get one! Jeez people. What version of the Doctrine and Covenants did you read for 40 years? Goodness gracious.

@@jacobbuzan374 keep researching.

@@inChristalone1960 I will. The real scriptures. Not this nonsense that y'all are talking about.

@@jacobbuzan374 Yes, The Bible. ✝️❤️‍🔥🙏🕊

@@inChristalone1960 the Bible isn't complete. Anyone who has read it cover to cover can tell that there are a lot of holes and lack of clarity in certain points of doctrine. That is why we need additional revelation from prophets, in the same way there were prophets in the Bible.

Wow!😢

They are assuming that's all you want to hear and you don't want to hear anything else.

Good for you!!!!!!

Amén, brother

That would be me as I was a devout Mormon for 67 years! 2 years ago I began to deconstruct in a difficult faith crisis. 😮

@@patricianoel7782I will pray for your spiritual well being. You’ve already done the hardest part, which is actually looking at the evidence and accepting the truth. Just please, no matter what, do not give up on Christ in whole. The Bible is true, the book of mormon is a parasite. Keep going.

The Mormonism I was raised in would have frowned heavily on the Ward radio video. They likely would have all been called into their bishop's offices for reprimanding.

Yeah i recently just ran into a mormon who said hes a christian too after i told him i was . I lost my mind

Exactly! If these were my brothers and our father saw them acting anything like this they would have had to endure an extremely long lecture and, if under 18 a belt to the backside.

Yes! Who's going to want to talk to them?

I think the LDS church is cool with them doing what they do. When I said something that upset 1 person in Church, it would get to the stake president. There's no chance they would let a Mormon channel with a moderate but noticeable following go unchecked.

Their mocking behavior proves Jeff’s point even the more. These proclaimed “so called Christians” behavior towards Jeff in such a mocking manner is absolutely disgusting & sad to see. Reminds me of the Pharisees!😔💔 That is NOT the Spirit of Christ in them, but something much more sinister. Pray for these lost souls. 🙏😔

For sure they are demon possessed

He should not have aired that comment, they need to ignore these fools. Dust the sand off their feet and move on.

​@@inchristalone25yes but first they need to expose them to the mormon community first.

Ya it was disgusting. Very sad when they spoke for 45 minutes and didn’t say 1 valid thing or have 1 valid response it’s very sad. When you go outside the word of God this is what happens

@@JustGeorge86 They exposed themselves with this garbage.

@@beingsaved556 of course but not every Mormon or Christian considering Mormonism would have seen it.

Yeah man I was raised Mormon here. And I want nothing to do with it! Please leave that cult and just follow Christ brother❤️❤️

BAHA!

Gross

Onnea vaan valitsemallasi tiellä.

😭

​@cheerfulmouse it's not hurting feelings..it just takes any spiritual legitimacy that they claim to have away. Their actions are very juvenile and spiteful.

@flower99ful it's a bummer because I really wanted to hear what they said. We all believe in and worship a Zombie Jewish Carpenter! If it wasn't true, it would be offensive! So I try not to judge religions on the weirdness factor. I wanted to hear a nuanced defense for their positions, and I just heard a bunch of bullies acting like jackasses. We discussed in the chat, and their response was very unbiblical.

@@melodylady99 Thus the 😭 Praying for souls 🙏❤️✝️

@@brandonutterback3789 You absolutely should not refer to our Lord Jesus Christ in such an irreverent way. Zombie implies voodoo magic and carried with it a negative connotation. If you are a Christian, I would highly recommend against speaking that way about Christ.

Yes! I was born and raised a Mormon and left January 2017 - 40 years of regular attending and teaching. I was taught exactly what you say about marriage and the afterlife. I was also taught we weren't Christian and that we were supposedly better than Christians. The times I went through the temple part of the ceremony is a video of the Mormon version of what happened in the Garden of Eden and the "First Vision". In the first vision account it is stated that God and Jesus told Joseph Smith that Christianity was a false religion and that's why the church needed to be restored.

Whatever you remember being told, some of what you say is not official doctrine, but was assumed be the reality of Heaven. If plural marriage exists, it will go both ways, including multiple husbands. Everything is plural with the gods. The fact is, that there is no official doctrine or revelation about what life is like in the Celestial Kingdom other than we know that marriage exists and parents will have children.

My mom dated a Mormon in the late 70s and was told that her role would be to have as many spirit babies as possible.

@@ramsrnja the Bible clearly states there will be no marriage in heaven so that negates any ideas about marriage plural or otherwise and any supposed "spirit children" that would result.

@mleonard3163 Jesus was talking to unrighteous Jews who did not have the marriage covenant. Notice Jesus speaks of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob right after this. These men had the promise of endless posterity.

This is what people are like who are not truly born again, even if they have the semblance of religiosity.

@@douglasmcnay644 Absolutely, Mormons are the prime example of Wolves in Sheep's clothing.

@@douglasmcnay644have you had your inner health plus today

I think giving those fools attention is only fueling their evil. First rule in parenting is not to give attention to negative behavior because if you do it grow and grows and grows and becomes a massive problem. I think the same could be said about those fools. They are acting like children.

@inchristalone25 this is true in the sense I had never heard of them before this, but there is also the counterbalance of exposing evil and lies so others are aware. Jeff's work has brought many out of Mormonism as many in the comments attest to, although I do fully understand your concerns too.

Its pretty funny ngl

Lighten up butter cup. Theyre joking but they’re still eons better than Apologia studio

@@raulofmustachio3d eons ahead...because they're looking for their own planets 😆

​@@raulofmustachio3dput the pipe down, munchkin. We totally believe you. Apologia Studios destroyed those inconsistent Mormons. Derp.

The inconsistentcy of the other channel, I don't even remember the name of it, was pretty bad. It was hard to watch. Really. They needed a brown paper bag to breathe out of. Apologia Studios ran circles around the others.

Amen. I hope that you still believe in Jesus Christ and his saving grace. Many people let the parasite of mormonism ruin all of Christianity for them. That’s what happened to me for many years after I stopped going to church. I realized that the Bible is true, and I sent my request to be removed as a church member because I don’t want to be associated with the works of the devil. I actually hand delivered to letter to the bishop and we had a talk for 2 hours where I outlined every problem with the church that I wrote in the letter. He didn’t know about most of the core beliefs of the church and the church’s founding history.

Don Bradley did the same thing. He's an LDS church historian who knows more about Joseph Smith and the beginnings of the church than anyone. He left the church, attacked it, then guess what?! Got rebaptized. For a guy who knows that much about church history and then wants to come back to the church tells you something: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is true.

​@@jacobbuzan374Hmmm...no. Don is just a brainwashed , ignorant puppet to the Mormon Cult Church. Now you have the truth. You can welcome

​@@jacobbuzan374Don is just a brainwashed puppet to the Mormon Cult Church who just wants to continue to receive his huge paycheck from the cult

​@@jacobbuzan374 not a single doctrine of Mormonism is true.

Thank you, you’re doing the Lord’s work! 😊

Giving those fools on the Ward air time is not okay. Please don't give attention to evil, they love it that you are giving them attention.

@@StEpHeNno22 Haha, you're welcome. :)

@@inchristalone25 Take it up with Apologia, not me.

They only believe what they are told to believe.

I agree. That kid came on and was treated graciously and acted like a complete prick. He doesn't have an argument. He doesn't have faith in God.. only faith in himself.

It’s the carnal flesh speaking. No Holy Spirit

​@@daughteroftheking4033exactly 💯

It’s becoming a consistent pattern for Kwaku. He can’t fully defend his religion, so he resorts to sarcasm, defamation, mischaracterization, etc. I saw an online debate with someone else on KZfaq (dealing with Mormonism) and he literally just left the conversation right in the middle because he didn’t like what the guy was saying.

@@kellywilsonid I saw that too when Kwaku just got up and left. The gentleman Kwaku was debating (can't remember the name) he said it best, and stated Kwaku wasn't equipped to handle that debate. And he was right.

He was always this way. He put somewhat of a best foot forward when he came on the show to debate, but even that quickly unraveled and derailed.

Oh yes, because heaven forbid you get deceived by genuine, nice, Christian folk like the LDS missionaries! *Sarcasm intended*

@@jacobbuzan374 who cares if they’re nice if they’re spreading a false gospel? My husband and I are kind to them, we welcome them into our home, we feed them, but we tell them the truth about Jesus Christ. “Niceness” won’t get you into heaven. “Niceness” won’t atone for sin.

@@sarahd5341Mormons are Christians, too. Just because there are different interpretations of the gospel, doesn't mean your's is better than theirs.

@@jacobbuzan374Mormons are not Real Christians they are Fake Christians because they preach a False Gospel and a False Christ and a False God and also they add to the word of God too.

Ye shall know them by their fruits…it’s like that phrase doesn’t apply to Mormons. Kinda funny.

Thanks!

Yes, thanks!

You mean kind of like how a Jesus said “I do nothing but what I have seen the Father do”, and Jesus also came down from the presence of the Father in heaven to become a man (mortal) before his ascension back to heaven where he gained his resurrected, glorified, exalted body. He followed in the footsteps of his father - and if we want to experience the fullness of what the Father has to offer, and become joint heirs with Christ, then we need to follow in Christ’s footsteps as well.

@@Onlyoneway.what about the Bible? 1 John 3:2?

@@mycatwouldWrong. Watch some debates with your scholars vs Christians. That’s brought up, and dismantled. At least the way you’re framing it.

3 Narcissistic males.

​@@vittoriacolona 1 guy overdosing on copium (if you're talking about the CHRISTIAN Channel, not the mormon/moron one)

Satan will be exposed!!!!

I recommend you suggest “The CES Letter “ by Jeremy Runnels. He was a devout Mormon but after publishing this book , was excommunicated. That’s what y’all should be passing out. Also watch “ Mormon Stories “ with John Dehlin.

Kwaku and friends are a clanging cymbol full of laughing fury, but no love and no value or truth whatsoever.

The really sad thing is that Kwaku was making the most vulgar insults and he's actually been on the Apologia show and was treated very fairly even though he was way out of his depth sitting with Jeff and Dr. White.

Glenn Beck is a charlatan himself so it would be good for him to hear the Gospel

It drives me crazy to hear Beck talk about being a Christian!

Jeff-if you have the nerve-go on Glen Beck

@@BravyM9The nerve? He’d destroy Glen.

And yes, we were always taught we would become gods.

Also I started calling them “ The church of the brother of Satan of ladder day saints “ because it’s true according to their gospel

@@Pound_Shiftas a saint I love you with all my heart even though you hate us, bc time will tell, time will come where facts from the dust will be discovered and will back up the claims of our truths. Just like the song time after time by cyndi lauper “time after time if you fall I will catch you, I’ll be waiting” time after time I’ll be here for you my brethren ❤️

Sounds like Islam

The end of polygamy was in the 1890's, when Wilford Woodruff was shown by God what would happen to the church if they didn't stop the practice.

​@adflee6989 As a Christian, I can only plead with you to read the new testament as a child would, meaning you put any preconceived notions you have aside, and allow God to show you the truth in His Word. It will change your life.

You quote tertiary quotes instead of addressing the arguments, like Jeff did in his video? Fascinating

Yeah instead of the Burger King, he kinda looks like the young version of Colonel Harland Sanders

@@ns4725 its a sign of strong theology.

I don't see bow they knock it, Brigham Young and lots of early LDS prophets had beards, and it was very common throughout American society at the time.

I always find it hilarious how he reacted to sam Shamoun in the debate

Wait, did you watch the video

@@lukehanson_ do you mean the word radio vid? Or the main video that the comment is on?

@@lukewoodard3189 I'm just asking if you watched the video we put out, or if you only saw Jeff's clips

@@lukehanson_ Are you trying to argue that the narrative of the LDS church hasn't changed over the years? Because it for sure has. Including the belief that saints will become like god and receive internal increase with planets. Its no different than an MLM thats why 'Utahns love those systems. As your kingdom progresses so does God's kingdom. Just embrace it.

@@inChristalone1960 I don't want to be rude, but in the Book of Mormon itself, in Mormon 9, it states, "9 For do we not read that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever, and in him there is no variableness neither shadow of changing? 10 And now, if ye have imagined up unto yourselves a god who doth vary, and in whom there is shadow of changing, then have ye imagined up unto yourselves a god who is not a God of miracles." It also speaks about the doctrine about ongoing revelation in Mormon 9(along with this) if anyone is interested in hearing arguments directly from the BOM. 😉

@@BookWarden The other lds teachings contradict the Book of Mormon. Please continue to research diligently. Peace.

@@inChristalone1960 Thanks! You too!

Nope, you have to get to "higher levels" for them to be totally honest. Kinda sounds like a secret society or a cult doesn't it

I was a mormon for 40 years and you are correct. I was born into mormonism and when I left I was trying to teach my family about the lies of mormonism. They told me it's all lies and I don't know what they believe. I couldn't understand how they could say I don't know what they believe, I was one for 40 years. The deception is high

I live in Provo Utah and I can tell you that the actions and responses from those mormons were consistent with the lds I’ve experienced over 40yrs.

@@ZelphBones I’m sorry, but I’m confused. I wasn’t asking a question. I was encouraging Pastor Durbin to be silent about his finances or the finances of his ministry it’s no one’s business. Is Pastor Durbin a Christian? I think so, he says most of the obligatory things to carry that title. Is he a Christian like myself? No not remotely his Church doesn’t resembles mine at all. What I would never question however is Pastor Durbin’s access to Gods Grace as that’s between him and God. If that was your question and if your question was for me, there you go. If not, oops.

@@ZelphBones No your not wrong. I think God has the ability and desire to save everyone even non Christians. Whether he does or not is between them. After all he saved the un baptized criminals crucified next him at the hour of their deaths. But my belief is more nuanced than my thoughts especially when you bring this Church or that Church’s role in salvation then I have very strong beliefs. Including, that anyone can have a personal relationship with Christ without attending any Church, but if you wish to strengthen that relationship to its greatest possible degree without fear of falling into heresy’s through worship and more importantly receiving the 7 sacraments the best place with the greatest chance to please Christ most, all things being equal is the One, Holy, Catholic (not Roman) and Apostolic Church, the Orthodox Church. Think of it this way Church isn’t about Salvation necessarily, it’s about attempting to becoming worthy of God’s Grace. Trying to put it so simplistically really doesn’t cut it but we’ll work with what we can here. The Orthodox have two words for this, Phronema and Theosis. Phronema is a state of mind and Theosis, which can be a loaded term, but think of it as striving to return to our nature before the fall. A condition without sin or death as God intended for Adam and Eve in paradise. If you want to hear a particular area of disagreement I have with Pastor Durbin and Reformed theology the greatest I suppose would be the Ridiculous notion of Sola Scriptura because the concept denies the unavoidable fact that the Bible is a product of the tradition and the fundamental organizational principle of Enduring Consensus or more eloquently put by Father Panayiotis Papageorgiou, the voices of the many throughout the ages, defined by Scripture and practiced un challenged for one thousand years until the Bishop of Rome turned his back on Both, tradition and Scripture in committing the sin of Schism that continues to fracture the Body of Christ to this day so that we’ve reached the point that anyone with a Bible and an opinion who lacks the fear to use both can proclaim truth every Sunday with unbelievable arrogance and dangerous authority. If Scripture was intended to be sufficient it would have been made so. It clearly was not by historical accounts and is proven not by the fact that there are over 45,000 Christian denominations around the world each using it to proclaim their own individual Truth fabricated out selectively quoting Scripture to carve out some distinction from every other Evangelical trying to do the same thing, to justify themselves authoritatively. You asked, so I’m just saying. Seriously thanks for engaging.

nah I’m crying 😂😂😂 how does omdddd, I have 2 brothers 1 went to the islands and 1 went to Australia (were Africans from Texas )

My older LDS family members are very racist. My Dad was a Bishop and he still believes black people are inferior because they were less valiant in the pre-existence. And he believes that native Americans are cursed Jews who will turn white if they are converted to his church.

Its only been since 1978 that blacks were able to get into priesthood

I think the national and state legislatures should have bills to combat this. I know Mormons are big on food preparation, which is one thing. It's another thing entirely to skirt the labor laws, and use missionaries for free labor, while honest, law abiding farmers have to pay their employees a living wage.

@@aspectra it’s voluntary work also we pay a specific percentage for our missions also the church helping out also with paying a specific percentage,, this is why we have tithing and is why our church system with funds is phenomenal

@@ZelphBones sorry poor choice of wording… proclaimer of the Truth of God

We moved from the Sacramento area about 18mo ago. If we were still there, I would love to have helped.

Yes I've seen about that temple opening. I've got several friends who've already attended the opening (one lives in Yuba City). Sadly none of my friends or family are open to listening to the true gospel but I still hope and pray that what I've said over the years has planted seeds. I was Mormon for 40 years and all the teachings Jeff went over are what I taught. Just after I was born is when they said people of color could hold the "priesthood" so that's the only teaching I didn't really get other than that it was no longer practiced.

Good for you!!!!

It seems to me that these are just bratty kids stuck in the narcissistic stage in adolescence. They're funded by "Big Mormon, Inc" in some way because what are the chances that those dopey boys have earned enough money for all that equipment by themselves without "help?"

The misogyny in the church is a hand-me-down of Protestantism. All the early converts were Bible believing men who believed that the Bible said the husband was to rule over the wife, that a woman should be silent in church, that they should submit to their husbands (and not the other way around as well) and not deny anyone sex. This is what a good amount of Christian men still believe in today. So this is a Bible tradition problem, and it really is a misinterpretation of Bible scripture and a lack of knowledge of the complete truth. We should be encouraged that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day-Saints is moving away from their mysogynistic past, as they are led line upon line, precept upon precept. Change is always hard and slow.

​@@ramsrnjaDoes the LDS god still damn people who deny the eternal principle of polygamy? D&C 132 Are women going to be separated from their families so they can serve as sex objects in some LDS man's harem of women should he get to the 'top level' of heaven?

That is abuse!!!!

That's where I got mine

​@@beingsaved556where?

The green one? Sandra Tanner's Lighthouse Ministries. I've got a copy myself as I am a former Mormon.

@@mleonard3163 Thank you!

Care to be more specific?

It was appalling

If their parents are Mormon, they will get a pat on the back,