I'm hoping you see this, I've been trying to reach out. I would love to prove you RIGHT using The Mormon Scriptures. Not kidding man, you don't even have to use The Bible since most of them claim it is corrupted anyway. Use their own sword to purge the false teachings of Joseph Smith

As an ex Mormon, it’s so hard to watch & listen to this. The Mormon elder is so arrogant & so unteachable it absolutely breaks my heart.😔💔

Com On, he doesn't let people finish their sentences

I love what the Lord is doing through you, and I've been watching your stuff. I fully believe in everything you are saying. I'm careful in prayer to reach out in saying this, so take it with a grain of salt and test it against scripture, but my only conviction I feel in watching this is that I want your heart not to be argumentative but rather to be slow to speak and quick to hear and be careful not to instigate anger but rather nurture the search for truth and provide what is needed to get it. If it goes into something where anger and frustration become the main motive for conversation, check your own heart and ask the Spirit for guidance. I'm praying for your ministry, I love your work! God bless you and your family, brother!

This guy is so hell bent and locked in to wanting to be a god who gets booty every day with multiple women for ever he doesn’t care. Just like Muslim men…..he’s looking forward to plowing all day and all night and running their own show. It’s all about materialism power and sex. Take eternal sex In unlimited amounts from Mormonism and Islam and there wouldn’t be any men entrenched in these sex cults. Just look how both treat their women. The state with the highest percentage of married women in long term therapy is Utah. Apparently they reject Ephesians 5.

God bless you! Jesus said, "Follow Me." Jesus is the good Shepherd. Jesus will never let you down. John 10:27-29 The sheep that are My own hear My voice and listen to Me; I know them, and they follow Me. 28 And I give them eternal life, and they will never, ever [by any means] perish; and no one will ever snatch them out of My hand. 29 My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater and mightier than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand.

Awesome! Have you gotten plugged into a local congregation?

Amen!

too bad ... you evidently were not much of a mormon if you could not see through his B.S. oh ... wait ... i know what the B.S. is ... you were never a mormon ... just a lying troll.

@@grayman7208 you're lost dude. You're going to believe some guy born in the 20th century and place where you spend eternity in his hands?? That's not smart.

Bud Askins confidence in the gospel isn’t arrogant or pride.

Bud Askins The only thing sad here is you. Arrogance, and pride? All I see is the fruits of The Spirit. Arrogance is coming from the mormon. They honestly think they're their own Gods. Absolute Ego.

It's not Jeff's skill that gives him patience, it's a part of the fruit of the Spirit. It's not of Jeff, it's a gift from God that Jeff has the patience... along with the love, joy, peace, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self-control.

Bud Askins I can see how one would misconstrue that but I've seen enough of these vids and seen my patience tested by just watching. He stays on topic, does not get personally offended when insulted and continually goes to scripture with every answer and for every question. If that's arrogance what does humility look like?

I don't think that I could have this patience. This guy is almost unbearable. I cannot believe how well Jeff handles this situation.

God bless you, hun.

Hey always remember God is with you during the harder times in life keep strong and God bless!

Whenever you leave a cult or some church that is not grounded in the truth, it will always be hard. You will be attacked viciously because they know they are wrong. People who are wrong always react in a craze like manner. God says count it all joy brethren when you go through trials. God bless you. As you stand up for the word of God.

God bless you

God Bless You Brother 🙏❤️

Because he’s a martial artist

@@carollisalocquiao9139 I think it's a fruit of the spirit primary, but I do agree being a martial artist helps.

Easily!

Something we can learn from definitely.

unfortunately he is wrong. and being patient as you preach false doctrine is not a virtue.

IKR, I've been following Apologia studios for a really long time now, and to this day every time I watch a video with Jeff, I am absolutely astounded at how patient he is! I think it is safe to say that only a handful of Christians on the planet have the kind of patience he has.

I was thinking the same thing. Exhausting, my ears are ringing!

Yes very exhausting listening to somethings is wrong with that guy hopefully he learns the truth

Had to come back to this video 3x to finish the entire vid. Goodness

Yeah did u hear that voice crack he hit maturity in the gospel lol

@Ryker - Praying for you and your family brother. It can be exceedingly difficult more so with family members. Be prayerful, stay patient it is easy for us to forget this is indeed a spiritual battleground.” The natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned “ 1 Corinthians 2:14. I recommend “ Is the mormon my Brother “ authored by Dr. James R. White. They must be challenged by the Word of God and Dr White is an exceptional Bible Scholar. He navigates through the Mormon arguments and destroys them with the Truth of Gods Word. Above all my friend “ In your heart honor Christ the Lord as holy, always being prepared to make a defense to anyone who asks you for a reason for the hope that is in you; yet do it with gentleness and respect “ 1 Peter 3:15. Blessings!

Amen brother we are to study our enemy but must stay rooted In The word of God and listen to the spirit. They been trying for years to disprove christ and His disciples ipisles. So there is alot of lies in there. In christ' time the disciples didnt sit and write the new testiment in a room they were all on the run. The word of the Lord can not be made up. Listen to the spirit and pray for me as well the enemy has been wanting to put doubts in my thoughts.

Will keep praying..brother God is good.

The main thing you can do is pray for them, and provide scripture to any objection she has. The easiest is to illustrate that the God she worships is not the God of the Bible. The bible specifically says Jesus has always been, he was in the beginning with God, and nothing that has been created was created outside of God. Mormons believe that God isn't the only God, they believe in 3. They believe that Jesus was the brother of satan, and that he was created. Completely the opposite of the Bible. The first thing is to illustrate to them that, even though they THINK they are christians, they have been misled. There is no question that their "Jesus" is not the Jesus of the Bible. And they need to realize that, because their soul is at stake.

I'll be praying for your family

We need to remember that we’re not in the business of proving people wrong. We’re in the business of relaying the Truth so that other’s might see it clearly and believe it. That’s the purpose of apologetics

That a fruit of the Holy Spirit

Wanna hear a bizarre truth? You can use their own scriptures to prove them wrong about Joseph Smith's teachings. He is a stronger testament of The Word because even through all his twisted teachings, the Mormon scriptures claim God as all eternal, Alpha and Omega, even Jesus Christ and God identifies himself as Christ. Literally no doubt about it. D&C 19:1-3,18 D&C 39:1-6. There's plenty more. The Word never changes

True!

It's very easy to prove them wrong. On the cover of the book of Mormon it says "Another Gospel of Jesus Christ", and in Galatians chapter 1 it blatantly says reject any other Gospel, also it says do not add to or take away from in Deuteronomy chapter 4 vs 2. So right there we have 2 instances that clearly show that you should not listen to that garbage.

and being wrong, again and again. amazing.

@@grayman7208 what specifically is he wrong in? Almost all he does is quote scripture in context, and demonstrate how it is in DIRECT conflict with Mormonism. If you can make these sorts of statement like this with ease, you should at least demonstrate why

@@shishsquared he's wrong in one simple way. no mormon ... ever ... has claimed we are saved by our works. period. the title of this video, and the entire premise, is a lie. and that makes durbin a liar. and liars do not do god's work. and speaking of scriptures ... he doesn't mention the scriptures that make it clear that god requires works from us. which also makes him dishonest. durbin is nothing more than a phony liar, seeking fame and glory. and he's a coward. why isn't he standing in front of an islamic mosque ? instead of confronting other christians who have different views than his. why doesn't he go fight some actual evil ... islam ? because he is a phony, coward.

@@grayman7208 if that's what you think Pastor Jeff said, you were probably not listening. He never said Mormons claim to be saved by works alone. What he said was that the Mormon theology teaches that works are required in addition to faith and grace. And in response to your defense of works-based salvation, let me ask you. Have you read Romans 1-4? The Apostle Paul completely pulverizes the theology of anything outside of grace and faith in Jesus Christ alone. No works at all. He says it over and over again. No intent on his point was lost in translation.

@@shishsquared oh, so ... you and durbin do not believe ... romans 2:6 2 corinthians 5:10 1 peter 1:17 revelation 20:12 psalm 62:12 proverbs 24:12 collossians 3:25 1 corinthians 3:8 by the way ... james 2:14-26 completely refutes any idea that you don't have to do works. and revelation 20:12 confirms it. news flash for you and durbin YOU MUST DO WORKS !!! and YOU WILL BE JUDGED ON YOUR WORKS !!!

Bud Askins we'll have to agree to disagree :)

Bud Askins nice copy and paste there bud. He is patient, and kind, and cert knowledgeable. God bless you sir.

That guy is driving me mad. Its obvious who is being guided by the Holy Spirit! Without context, all you get is chaos and false doctrine.

Perhaps Jeff may be the only guy who would stand a chance to win an argument with my wife!! 😂 love this. Thanks for sharing!

When you know the Truth you have to be patience with those who havent

I wish he would take a long nap and stop talking for awhile.

@@jeaninepetty4923 you and satan both have that same wish in common

@@MSMImage Well said.

@@MSMImage nicely said!

A year has passed, how is you walk with Christ? Pax Christi

@@friendlyfire7509 Good of you to touch base. Another year has passed.

@@createdbeing302 and now another year! How things are going with your faith Alexandra?

How's that study going? :) :P

@@gustavmahler1466 You have so taken that verse out of context.

@@gustavmahler1466 But Hey if you think you're going to become just like God, maybe you and Lucifer have more in common than you think.

@@gustavmahler1466 Read Isaiah 46:9

@@gustavmahler1466 Meaning that we shall have overcome the world just as Christ overcame the world. You are treading on dangerous territory if you think you are gonna become just like the God of the most high. That is exactly why God threw Lucifer out of heaven.

@@gustavmahler1466 Amen to that!

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HomesliceDrummer lol definitely contradicts.

HomesliceDrummer The 1830 edition of the book of mormon doesn’t in fact ...it was trinitarian in outlook but by 1838 Smith had added whole words to the text to separate Christ and God as separate beings. This was to line up with with his 1838 version of the so called first vision. In the 1832 version of the so called first vision he cites only seeing Christ but by 1838 he sees Christ AND God the Father....I know I know....just a SMALL detail to leave that out and believe you me we know mormons perform serious word gymnastics to get around that one. Smith just made it up as he went along and got more bold as his cult status grew culminating with those hashed up so called ordinances he plagiarised from the free masons. I mean...what a hack!!! Most of the clueless weirdo Mormon stuff that is in direct conflict with Christianity like baptism for the dead and God as a exalted man is in your other rubbish works like the doctrine and covenants and the pearl of great price. Laughable.

except that i quoted biblical scripture at the top of this comment section ... many biblical scriptures that say works are required and we will be judged by our works.

gray man The mormon interpretation of James that they use to pervert the Gospel claiming that faith without works is dead taken completely out of context of the whole verse. Joseph Smith stumbled around the bible like a drunk. It’s just more clueless mormon twistyanity.

nonsense. Matthew 7:16-20 "Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them." Matthew 16:27 "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works." Acts 10:35 "But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him." Romans 2:13 "For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." 2 Corinthians 5:9-10 "Wherefore we labour, that, whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad." Galatians 6:7 "Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap." James 1:22 "But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves." James 2: 14-26 "What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also." James 4:17 "Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin." Revelations 20:12 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works." it is YOU sir that does not understand " faith without works is dead. "

AAAMEN!!!

@markralston727 wrote: " Love Jeff, I’ve no idea how a Mormon who ever watches this can continue being one. " Religious pride.

I hope God can soften my heart so that I can witness how Jeff does 😭 I'm such a hard headed son of thunder 😂

@@daMillenialTrucker It's easy to become combative. We need to keep in mind that our goal is to bring them to Christ and not pushing them further away. God bless you.

Brother Jeff Durbin is simply pushing "Biblical supremacy" which is not necessarily the truth! What is the truth? The truth is/are the facts correctly interpreted! Do the facts support faith alone (Sola fide)? No, not at all! The apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) was both an apostle of the Lord and a heretic who preached an erroneous doctrine which was a different gospel (of "faith alone") that our Lord and Savior even Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) did not support! Some of Paul's greatest errors include NOT quoting the Lord in support of his erroneous doctrine of faith alone (sola fide), and not writing a comprehensive biography about Jesus (including his life, his times, his ministry (27 - 34), and his philosophy and theology) even though it was Jesus who gave Paul his calling to the apostleship in 35 A.D.!

lol yeah ok. *rolls eyes* People can get morality wrong and so to be consistent you want to tie morality back to god. You reject that a person can know morality through personal experience. But then you think you can come to know god through personal experience. That is hypocritical.

@@DarrelSimon I was having a really bad day, until I read your post. I just wanted to thank you, that was the funniest shit I hear in a long time.

@@brianheaton5521 Are the facts a funny thing to you?

@@Elrog3 It interesting that some folks claim to know God, but have NO proof that they really have met this supernatural being!

Definitely man. Even in the bible, "A quick tempered man starts fights, a cool tempered man tries to stop them" Proverbs 15:18 Patience is truly key, my brother

1 Timothy; telling the truth in love and grace.

THATS WHAT I ALSO GOT NOT FROM THIS ONE BUT JEFF'S LAST VIDEO WITH A MORMON.

Same here

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Can I get your autograph?

Same here

You are wrong. Jeff is trying to make it so easy. You cannot just believe. Actions my beloved brothers and sisters. Jeff is a liar. A false Prophet. The Bible and BOM are another Testament of Jesus Christ. The Bible was on one side of the world. The BOM was written by people that lived in the Americas. The ancestors to Native Americans. Did you ever wonder were Indians descended from...the Nephites and Lamanites in the BOM. God left the most untranslated book for the last days...the BOM. But both the Bible and BOM are sacred to us!! We read them both!!

Who said it was easy?? He never claimed it was easy, Ephesians 2:For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God- 9 not by works, so that no one can boast. 10 For we are God’s handiwork,created in Christ Jesus to do good works,which God prepared in advance for us to do. How can anyone know if you have living faith or death faith? James 2: 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead. It simply saying if you truly have faith, your works will show it, but if you have no works, and you say you have faith, it comes down too, do you really have faith, is it alive? The Bible teaches we are justified only by faith apart from works. We don’t do works because we’re trying to win Gods approval, or try to “make it” Or to obtain eternal life. The works that flows from us is the result of our faith in God, our heart has been renewed. The Book of Mormon literary goes against everything that Bible teaches.. And I mean this in respect.

Yes same. Because when I start Street preaching I want to be able to speak the truth and defend Jesus's word strongly and correctly to these false prophets

Thrax Isaiah 43:10, Matthew 28:19, 1 Peter 3:15, etc.

Thrax being a witness means testifying of what you have seen and/or experienced. Matthew 28:19 tells us to do that

Thrax what are we supposed to teach? And how are we supposed to teach something if we haven't learned or experienced it

Thrax what does that have to do with witnessing? It doesn't matter if "Trinity" doesn't appear in Scripture. It's a traditional word for the triune nature of God. And anyone who says that Jesus didn't have to die are deceived.

He has a discussion with an argumentative Mormon girl and she refused to consider facts as facts. Frustrating as well!

i know, durbin lying like that ... who'd of thought ... he claims to be a christian.

@@grayman7208 You really have a problem with him, huh... You might want to start watching other people if he gets you very heated. It may not be good for your mental health, considering you can do nothing to stop him from youtube comment sections. Have a good day, gray man! :)

@@rubypeterson665 well ... all christians should be offended. durbin lies. what is surprising is that you, a self-proclaimed "christian" are not offended by lies. perhaps the beam in your eyes is clouding your judgement.

@@grayman7208 Could you elaborate a little bit? By what he lies about, so that I may be informed, and what beam is clouding my judgment, so that I can make some changes to be more Godly?

HerBeauty`sInsideOut I so noticed that to. Hes absolutely demon possessed here. Something changed so quick once Jeff came over, and started 1 Peter 3:15. Like a light switch hit in that guy to get loud and distracting with babble.

Keep preaching truth!

1kparmar I agree one person on their team should have pulled that guy aside and helped him .

HerBeauty`sInsideOut How do you know it was Satan trying to distract? Wonder if it was the father testing to see if they would stand firm.

Perhaps the homeless guy is just there and there's no evil behind it? What a strange conclusion to jump to, that Satan put the homeless guy there.

What does omg mean?

@@carolwilliams383 It's taking the Lord's name in vain. Oh my ...

@@meomy29 why do it then?

@@carolwilliams383 I have no idea.

@@meomy29 or "oh my gosh"

Jon A Baptist when he comes back to Gainesville; he won't be a missionary anymore, so relax.

Jon, I hope you do see him and get a chance to minister to him. May God grant you boldness.

Christian mormon was in the title that’s why

You have a good point, Jeff had to deal with the foundation of the mans argument before he can get to that issue. Jeff tried to get to that point but the man would not let him.

PreacherJimC well that's good to here thanks for commenting. I am new to the chanel so I'm not sure on all his beliefs

He like Dr. James White is a Reformed Baptist, this means he would subscribe to Calvinist theology. Having a high view of Scripture and as stated in another post I wrote on this page with a link to information on Lordship Salvation. He and Dr. White at AOMIN.org are very knowledgeable in Apologetic and theology. Dr. White even teaches at courses at the seminary level. I myself am a Southern Baptist Pastor that would consider myself a moderate Calvinist. I follow many of the current reformed pastors these days.

Where is the so-called age of accountability found within the scriptures? You won't find it.

Zachtrix you don’t find the word trinity in scripture either but it’s there.

Lol please tell me how a young man of 14 years old named Joseph smith back in the early 1800s who had no education wrote the Book of Mormon word for word by himself or even with the help of others it still makes no sense. Go read the Book of Mormon and tell me what you’re reading is not from God himself. You’re telling me that the Mormonism is all a lie? That the Book of Mormon isn’t another testament of Jesus Christ. I can tell you right now if you go and read the Book of Mormon. I mean actually read it like you were to read the Bible. You could not deny the Book of Mormon to be man made just how you cannot deny the Bible to man made. So go on tell me that. ☕️

Lawrence Mcginnis nothing is free.

Ben Rivera tha devil is a lie

When your yoked to Christ, is obedience really work?

What's His Name yes it does obedience is better then sacrifice

Lawrence Mcginnis Yes it does what?

Hey man I know I don’t know you and I don’t know if maybe I commented on one of your post before. I know the image of your profile picture is from Pokémon. I used to watch it back in the past. The only reason I’m mentioning this is because I have heard people give Hell testimonies that these cartoon characters are demons. I saw on video about maybe two years ago and this lady said she saw someone die and they went into Hell and they were being tormented by a demon named Ben 10. I used to watch this show in the past as well. I saw a video of a man who have a channel called Wisdom and Understanding and he has just about a 49 min video testimony of Hell and he mentions a demon he saw in Hell that was a cartoon character he knew of if you wanted to ever see that in his video I would say the 20 min to 40 min mark should cover that up I wanna say a good amount. Im not saying this to attack or judge but as a heads up. I don’t want Satan having access into peoples lives.

That was enough for me to be done with Mormonism. My dad has been praying for me my whole life and had to divorce my mom. I'm praying for her now. Pray for her!

How can anyone consider that works get you to heaven...how much works? 100 things? 10,000 things? So I'm on my death bed and only accomplished 9,999.00 good works, so I missed heaven by one good work? So #REDICULOUS... God is not a confusing God, but is a loving God, He does not hang things over our head. He freely gives us the gift of salvation thru GRACE. PERIOD.

How many works does it take to get saved? That is easy: AT LEAST ONE!

@@TheVintageBumbleBee How many works does it take to get saved? That is easy: AT LEAST ONE!

Darrel Simon Don’t you sound so so knowledgeable!

"And everyone will hate you because you are my followers. But the one who endures to the end will be saved." - Mark 13:13 So... who will be saved? When we say that one is saved by grace after all they can do, how is this different than enduring to the end?

You need BOTH faith AND works in order to obtain salvation! We are saved by his grace and atonement ALONG with our own faith and works! The gospel is simply put "the good news" about the life and ministry of our Lord and Savior even Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) in that the only begotten son of our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) had died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he was raised from the dead on the third (3rd) day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15: 1 - 58). The gospel is simply the good news that the wrath of Jehovah God is coming against sinners, BUT we can all live forever (with eternal life and eternal youth) in the Kingdom of God (to come) IF we reconcile ourselves with our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) BY having belief and faith in Him and His only begotten son Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) AND/PLUS we both the acts and works that prove that our faith is genuine AND/PLUS the grace and atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ who had died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he was raised from the dead! The Mosaic Law of 1513 B.C. was simply a list of six hundred and thirteen (613) commandments that Jehovah God gave to the Israelites through the prophet Moses Levi (1593 B.C. - 1473 B.C.) in order for them to prove through their works and acts (by following these six hundred and thirteen (613) commandments) that their faith in their God whom is our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) was genuine! Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) simply modified and simplified (Jeremiah 31: 31 - 34) this covenant by having true Christians (his followers) follow just two (2) commandments (Deuteronomy 6: 4, Leviticus: 17 - 18): LOVE GOD and LOVE YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING. It is only through our works and acts (by following just these two (2) commandments) that we can prove that our faith in God through His only begotten son is real. It's a very simple equation: our faith in God through His son PLUS our works and acts PLUS the grace and atonement of Jesus Christ (Proverbs 27: 11) EQUALS our salvation. If you want to live forever and ever with eternal life and eternal youth and if you want to be reunited with your loved ones (including both family and friends) in the Blessed Hereafter, then you will have to follow the commandment of the Messiah (John 13: 31 - 35, John 14: 15 - 18, John 15: 9 - 17)!

@Jason Wallace So is the confessing sinner (highway robber bandit) crucified next to our Lord saved (Luke 23: 1 - 56 (26 - 43, 39 - 43))? JST Luke 23: 1 - 57 (26 - 44, 40 - 44) Yes, BUT ONLY if he can do an act or a work to show that his faith in Jehovah God through Christ Jesus is genuine. So what work did the highway robber do? Believe! Faith is an act! To believe is a work! You must do an act or a work to show that your faith is genuine or your faith is not real! Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) and James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26). Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26) JST Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) JST James 2: 1 - 25 (14 - 25). Faith and Works along with grace and atonement saves all! We are saved by his grace and atonement ALONG with our own faith and works! The gospel is simply put "the good news" about the life and ministry of our Lord and Savior even Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) in that the only begotten son of our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) had died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he was raised from the dead on the third (3rd) day according to the Scriptures (1 Corinthians 15: 1 - 58). The gospel is simply the good news that the wrath of Jehovah God is coming against sinners, BUT we can all live forever (with eternal life and eternal youth) in the Kingdom of God (to come) IF we reconcile ourselves with our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) BY having belief and faith in Him and His only begotten son Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) AND/PLUS we both the acts and works that prove that our faith is genuine AND/PLUS the grace and atonement of the Lord Jesus Christ who had died for our sins, and that he was buried, and that he was raised from the dead! The Mosaic Law of 1513 B.C. was simply a list of six hundred and thirteen (613) commandments that Jehovah God gave to the Israelites through the prophet Moses Levi (1593 B.C. - 1473 B.C.) in order for them to prove through their works and acts (by following these six hundred and thirteen (613) commandments) that their faith in their God whom is our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) was genuine! Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) simply modified and simplified (Jeremiah 31: 31 - 34) this covenant by having true Christians (his followers) follow just two (2) commandments (Deuteronomy 6: 4, Leviticus: 17 - 18): LOVE GOD and LOVE YOUR FELLOW HUMAN BEING. It is only through our works and acts (by following just these two (2) commandments) that we can prove that our faith in God through His only begotten son is real. It's a very simple equation: our faith in God through His son PLUS our works and acts PLUS the grace and atonement of Jesus Christ (Proverbs 27: 11) EQUALS our salvation. If you want to live forever and ever with eternal life and eternal youth and if you want to be reunited with your loved ones (including both family and friends) in the Blessed Hereafter, then you will have to follow the commandment of the Messiah (John 13: 31 - 35, John 14: 15 - 18, John 15: 9 - 17)! So is the confessing sinner (highway robber bandit) crucified next to our Lord saved (Luke 23: 1 - 56 (26 - 43, 39 - 43))? JST Luke 23: 1 - 57 (26 - 44, 40 - 44) Yes, BUT ONLY if he can do an act or a work to show that his faith in Jehovah God through Christ Jesus is genuine. So what work did the highway robber do? Believe! Faith is an act! To believe is a work! You must do an act or a work to show that your faith is genuine or your faith is not real! Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) and James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26). Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26) JST Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) JST James 2: 1 - 25 (14 - 25). So always remember my friends and fellow Christian that the ONLY way that one can prove their faith is through their acts and works! That is why both faith and works and Christ's atonement leads to salvation (Ecclesiastes 12: 9 - 14 (13 - 14)), and that word of wisdom comes from King Solomon Judah (1000 B.C. - 922 B.C.), the second smartest man who ever lived (1 Kings 3: 1 - 28 (1 - 15), 2 Chronicles 1: 1 - 17 (1 - 12))!

@Jason Wallace Not so, the apostle James Judah (10 B.C. - 69 A.D.) had a VERY different view of salvation from that of the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67)! Martin Luther is exactly how the Pope Leo X (Giovanni di Lorenzo de' Medici) (1475 - 1521) had accurately described him: a heretic who incorrectly preached the heretical doctrine of faith alone (Sola fide). Heresy is any incorrect belief or erroneous theory that is strongly at variance with established beliefs or customs, and a heretic is a proponent of such claims or beliefs. In this case, the erroneous doctrine of faith alone is contradicted by both the prophet Isaiah Levi (780 B.C. - 700 B.C.) (who argued that works without faith is dead) and the apostle James Judah (10 B.C. - 69 A.D.) (who argued that faith without works is dead): Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (1 - 7, 6 - 7) James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26) JST Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (1 - 7, 6 - 7) JST James 2: 1 - 25 (14 - 25) I would caution all Christians to beware of the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) and his opinions as misunderstood by Martin Luther (Hans Luder Ludher) (1483 - 1546), Jehan Cauvin (John Calvin) (1509 - 1564), Huldrych "Ulrich" Zwingli (Huldrychus Zwinglius) (1484 - 1531), and others: 1 Timothy 2: 1 - 15 (11 - 12) JST 1 Timothy 2: 1 - 15 (11 - 12) Even the apostle Peter (Simon Bar-Jonah) (10 B.C. - 67 A.D.) the first (1st) Pope-President of the Church has warned us of that truth: 2 Peter 3: 1 - 18 (14 - 16) JST 2 Peter 3: 1 - 18 (14 - 16) The Mormon-Latter Day Saint Christians, like the Jehovah's Witness Christians (whom both believe that our faith plus our works (acts) plus Christ's atonement (grace) equals eternal salvation), are as true a Christian as any other Christian out there. I would caution all Christians to beware of the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) and his opinions as misunderstood by Martin Luther (Hans Luder Ludher) (1483 - 1546), Jehan Cauvin (John Calvin) (1509 - 1564), Huldrych "Ulrich" Zwingli (Huldrychus Zwinglius) (1484 - 1531), and others: 1 Timothy 2: 1 - 15 (11 - 12) JST 1 Timothy 2: 1 - 15 (11 - 12) Even the apostle Peter (Simon Bar-Jonah) (10 B.C. - 67 A.D.), the first (1st) Pope-President of the Church, has warned us of that truth: 2 Peter 3: 1 - 18 (14 - 16) JST 2 Peter 3: 1 - 18 (14 - 16) In this case, the erroneous doctrine of faith alone is contradicted by both the prophet Isaiah Levi (780 B.C. - 700 B.C.) (who argued that works without faith is dead) and the apostle James Judah (10 B.C. - 69 A.D.) (who argued that faith without works is dead): Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (1 - 7, 6 - 7) James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26) JST Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (1 - 7, 6 - 7) JST James 2: 1 - 25 (14 - 25) Our fellow Protestant Christians in Christ Jesus should learn to both beware and to be very wary of the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) and his opinions. The word of God is/are only the words coming out of the mouth of our Heavenly Father Jehovah God (Yahweh Elohim Allah) and perhaps out of the mouth of His only begotten son Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.), and from no one else. Unless the apostle Paul is directly quoting something that the Lord (either God or His son) has directly spoken to him about, then the apostle Paul is simply giving the readers of his letters, sermons, and epistles Paul's own personal opinions and nothing more. This principle applies to words coming out of God's own mouth and NOT from the mouth of anybody else (including the apostle Paul of Tarsus (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67)) (2 Timothy 3: 1 - 17 (10 - 17, 14 - 17, 16 - 17))! JST 2 Timothy 3: 1 - 17 (10 - 17, 14 - 17, 16 - 17) One will note that in most of the sections of the Doctrine and Covenants-the Book of Commandments (D&C) (1833 - ) (in both the LDS and RLDS-CoC versions) that the prophet Joseph Smith Junior (1805 - 1844) and others (including the prophet Joseph Smith III (1832 - 1914)) are directly quoting something that the Lord (either Jehovah God or His son) is stating to them directly. Folks are free to quote from the apostle Paul to their own heart's content, but the principal difference between the letters, sermons, and epistles of the apostle Paul and the sections found in the Doctrine and Covenants is that the letters, sermons, and epistles of the apostle Paul are the words directly spoken by the apostle Paul and the sections found in the Doctrine and Covenants are the words spoken directly by the Lord (either our Heavenly Father or His son). The second (2nd) smartest man who ever lived was King Solomon Judah (1000 B.C. - 922 B.C.) and his wisdom came from our Heavenly Father Jehovah God: 1 Kings 3: 1 - 28 (1 - 15) 2 Chronicles 1: 1 - 17 ( 1 - 12) King Solomon was far smarter than the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) and King Solomon's wisdom also came from our Heavenly Father, and after considering all things, the wise King Solomon maintained that it was faith and works and not faith alone that will bring about a good judgment from Jehovah God. Ecclesiastes 12: 9 - 14 (13 - 14) 13.) Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind. 14.) For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. The principle of faith and works is fully supported by our Lord and Savior even Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) the only begotten son of our Heavenly Father even Jehovah God! John 13: 31 - 38 (34 - 35) John 14: 1 - 31 (15 - 31, 15) John 15: 1 - 27 (1 - 17, 9 - 17) The idea of one being saved by GRACE (or FAITH) alone WITHOUT ANY WORKS OR ACTS is a HERESY perpetrated by the OPINIONS of the apostle Paul (Saul Benjamin) (3 - 67) as expressed in Paul's letters and epistles. Paul IS NOT quoting any word directly coming from Jehovah God's mouth (Yahweh Elohim Allah) or from the mouth of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.). These Biblical quotes are Paul's own OPINIONS and they are NOT shared by either our Heavenly Father Jehovah God Himself or His only begotten son Jesus Christ. Jesus himself stated that both faith and works are EQUALLY important: Matthew 22: 34 - 40 (39 - 40) Mark 12: 28 - 34 (31) Luke 10: 25 - 37 (25 - 28) You will note that when Jesus was asked "Which is the greatest commandment?" he quoted two (2) commandments and not one (1) commandment that one must follow to in order to gain everlasting life: Deuteronomy 6: 4 - 5 (5) Leviticus 19: 17 - 18 (18) When someone once asked Jesus Christ Judah (8 B.C. - 33 A.D.) "What must I do to inherit eternal life?" our Lord and Savior had told the young ruler to do a work (an act) in order to gain eternal life (salvation): Matthew 19: 1 - 30 (16 - 30, 16 - 22) Mark 10: 1 - 52 (17 - 30, 17 - 22) Luke 10: 1 - 42 (25 - 37, 25 - 28) Luke 18: 1 - 43 (18 - 30, 18 - 23) Luke 19: 1 - 48 (1 - 10)

@Jason Wallace The Lord knows that we don't speak Greek and he also knows that we don't use Greek Bibles either! Can you show me ANY English language translation of the Holy Scriptures of the Bible where the apostle James speaks of one needing only faith to be saved (James 2: 1 - 26)? So is the confessing sinner (highway robber bandit) crucified next to our Lord saved (Luke 23: 1 - 56 (26 - 43, 39 - 43))? JST Luke 23: 1 - 57 (26 - 44, 40 - 44) Yes, BUT ONLY if he can do an act or a work to show that his faith in Jehovah God through Christ Jesus is genuine. So what work did the highway robber do? Believe! Faith is an act! To believe is a work! You must do an act or a work to show that your faith is genuine or your faith is not real! Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) and James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26). Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) James 2: 1 - 26 (14 - 26) JST Isaiah 64: 1 - 12 (6 - 7) JST James 2: 1 - 25 (14 - 25).

@Jason Wallace No, you're both ignorant and arrogant, because all you need to do is to read good English! You don't need to place your head in a hat, but you do need to pull your head out of your rear end and read English! Besides, like a typical ignorant and arrogant Protestant, you have NOT responded to my original answer! Even the theologian James Robert White (1962 - ) says that there are plenty of good English language translations of the Holy Scriptures of the Bible! So my point remains: the Lord knows that we don't speak Greek and he also knows that we don't use Greek Bibles either! Can you show me ANY English language translation of the Holy Scriptures of the Bible where the apostle James speaks of one needing only faith to be saved (James 2: 1 - 26)?

Agreed. It's sad to see someone so defiant and so confused.

Catholicism has its problems.

Jeff was just waiting to attack and interject himself into a conversation he wasn't originally part of. That's not patience, that's being assertive.