Sad as it is.

#dragqueendream

@@roder51 It is sad. Kind of depressing. She was very focused and ambitious, though. Highly....

I like how her hair scarf has it's very own stand!! Ha ha!!

I agree 💯 👌

The only person that ever said this was a terrible movie was Faye Dunaway herself.... she didn't realize her acting was way over the top until the premiere of the movie in NYC (she didn't watch any of the daily "rushes"), and everyone was laughing really hard at the "no more wire hangers.. EVER" scene (among others). She's slammed it AND her performance ever since. She's stated on several occasions the director should have pulled her back from all that over-acting, but, he liked what she was doing and thought it was Oscar-worthy...

Faye was brilliant and nobody criticizes her role in the film. What people criticize and dislike is the film by how they shot the image of the great Joan Crawford. Even Faye herself does not want to talk about the movie because she knows it is not entirely true and she was fond of Crawford, who in her life spoke very well of Dunaway. In addition to being discredited because it is a series B movie.

Homie Blossom I’ve always loved this movie! I became a fan of Joan Crawford because of it!

I think of Network. Or Eyes of Laura Mars. But maybe thats because thats where I saw her first and loved her in first

@@hankaustin7091 Are you sure? Another story I heard was when she saw the rough cut, she was absolutely certain she'd win the Oscar. Dunaway was said to be livid with the studio for promoting it as a campy movie, so much that she has since refused to talk about the movie in interviews.

Patrick Black so true

It's perfection. It has been said that Walt Disney was inspired by Joan for the animation of the Evil Queen in Snow White. Dunaway seamlessly evokes that austere majesty. Flawless. FLAW....LESS.

Patrick Black I saw this Movie on tv today

malvip, Christina saw through it all. Joan did a good job of fooling people that everything was good when, in reality it wasn't.

malvip What do you know? The only people who will ever factually know what happened between them is Christina and Joan, therefore you and all the rest of you inhumane idiots speculations, are just that, speculations. Any THOUGHTFULL person, knows the truth lies somewhere in the middle. I personally side more with christina because not only do you have to consider the fact that, 1. She wrote it after Joan died, so why would she wait so long, if she wanted "Revenge" that badly. 2. Look it up, Joan actually says the word SLEEPSAFE in her audio version of her book, "My Way Of Life", therefore proving that there was infact a sleepsafe that she used to tie Christopher down to his bed, at night, and with only STRICT permission to get out of it. 3. She drank 120 proof alcohol. That pretty much explains where the Night Terrors started, but I also ask you, what kind of human being discredits a victim of child abuse? Go burn in hell.

Me too. So glamorous and this was her daily ritual.

I can´t believet It´s so beautifull and wonderful

+TiffanyKirby86 The ANGER she puts in to washing her face!

Right

the way her morning routine is so stylish and elegant, amazing

Yup. If the film didn’t go in the camp route she would’ve won the Oscar.

It's part of how she stayed a major star for fifty years. But this movie is a joke and it destroyed Dunaway's career.

I know, it's that L.A. Hollywood hills thingy. Donaway only looked slightly goofier than Crawford in the glamorous shots and really shined in the angry rages the most.

It's so ironic that you have an EXCELLENT intro then follow it up with the rest of the movie.

Allen Quin if you think this is ironic, watch Resident Evil Retribution, lol

thomas schmitz And wire coathangers

But you didn't have a limousine comping for you.

For real. I can't imagine the obsessive detail over some things when it comes to appearance.

When you suffer from OCD and have a compulsive disorder, you cant help it. Imagine having to live with someone who is untreated. You would NEVER meet their exprctations and they’ll always be irritated with you.

i'm guessing her large paycheck helped to keep that commitment to her ambition.

@@badgurl5758 It's true, the compulsions are rough. One of the things that caught my attention is how aggressively she washes herself for her morning routine at the beginning of her day and getting dressed, I'm the opposite. I feel like I "can't" wash myself that thoroughly until I know I have nothing left to do that day, so I can immediately crawl into clean sheets. First in the day would be a "light" shower because if I do a "thorough" shower and skincare routine and all that I won't want to do anything at all and "have" to do it again at night anyway. During rough or depressive periods where it gets worse there would be times where if I left the house even just to grab the mail I would "have" to change my clothes. If I had to get up to go to the bathroom during sleep, I "have" to put on socks before my bare feet touch the floor because if my feet touch the floor I'll "have" to wash them again and then change my sheets before I "sully" them, resulting in a laundry basket full of socks from one night because once I've worn a pair and taken them off I can't wear them again. I've been doing a lot better lately, which is nice.

when your body is your currency, you do it. She is not different than any starlet and star of today (probably worst now, actually) and most men actor ( all the work out they make to get their irreal body)

+Tara Atigh Wow! Thanks I thought it was alcohol!

Thank You for that! I've been dying to know! I'm getting that book to read too! ;)

I didn't know Joan Crawford wrote a book. Thanks for saying!

Tarabara all three are highly effective in anti aging. Joan Crawford looked very young

Tarabara great skin tip!

Barbara please

The germs know exactly where to find the BOYS and the BOOZE!!! 😡

Its corona Joan you're evil liar

These comments!!! 🤣🤣🤣

"I'm not mad at YOU, I'm mad at the GERMS!"

Michael T She should have treated the people in her life better.

Assuming that any of this is true. We only have Christina's word and that doesn't mean anything.

Most of us are alone in our beds in our lives. Not that telling. Also, many wealthy people sleep in their own bedrooms. It is peaceful and you sleep better.

LocksAndChains Exactly!!

Michael T we are all born and die alone. But I get what you mean!

That's how she got rich! :)

4 am every morning. She is an inspiration. Wonder what time she went to bed.

Margaret 8pm perhaps? I'm not an early bird so I didn't do it

And this is why you ain't no movie star

Whereas she just hit the booze.

Especially when it was during the Depression and WW II. But, that was, indeed, the style.

@@triciajohansen9295 Yes! Art Deco design was introduce to the world at the 1925 Paris Arts Exhibition.

In real life, Crawford’s interiors were done by William Haines and this design definitely mimics his distinct style of Hollywood Deco. If you want a juicy Hollywood story, look up William Haines sometime....

Most were true as they get. When Christopher did an interview days after Joan's death, he recalled several abusive altercations he had with Joan after Christina was sent to boarding school. One of them was when he was diagnosed with a sleepwalking disorder at 12. Instead of taking the doctor's advice to send Christopher away to seek proper treatment, Joan literally strapped him to his bed for a year. It got him out of the sleepwalking, but it traumatized him greatly because of the extremes she went to get him over it. This incident was in Christina's book among with other abuses and when he was 18, Christopher left Joan's home after being unable to put up with how she treated his older sister along with him. Most denied the story including Joan's favorite children, Cathy and Cynthia(Cindy). Both Christina and Christopher pointed out that those two had it much easier than what she put the older kids through.

I think the hour and the buzz makes so many of us thinking: Gosh!, 4:00am!!!, and she's going to start everything, a ver disciplinated person

CALMING? The woman's a psychopath!

@@caitlinmorris5064 Okay, I laughed. Just to clarify, I was referring to the calming SOUNDS of the opening, not the person going through her morning ritual. Crawford was many things, but calming was not one of them.

@@novembermiss You're right about that. But those sounds still don't put me at ease having scene earlier clips showing her psychopathy. And she's just getting started and I'm already getting the creeps. Yikes

@Anna Marfa That's why I started my comment with "*except* for the starting buzz of the alarm clock..."

Omg I can't imagine all of the hard work she did to memorize her lines

She sure did!

But she was still a narcissistic night mare

So did Harvey Weinstein

Lol plenty of more intellectual people do much more impressive things everyday

+Shanniqua .Green What is it with gay people and this movie?

That's the same thing that the person said who woke up at 4:00 am to clean up Joan's shit...

Stillo Chillino...: And yet I'd say you look pretty damn good.

Thanks for the laugh.. that fucking killed me!!!

Stillo Chillino... Did you drop out of high school

AND SHE WAS A HELL OF LOT BETTER LOOKING AND MORE TALENTED THEN U COULD EVER DEAM OF BEING DEAR!!!!

CARLO FANTIGA Oooh big and bad KZfaq bitch!

@@carlofantiga5058 stop being a bitch

lisa gaddis Yes I know It Was Sou HOLLYWOOD I LOVED

@@carlofantiga5058 wo...bro jeez chill

omg she was amazing....

Then again Faye Dunaway was known for diva behavior and tantrums herself.

I saw an interview of Faye Dunaway and she admitted she regretted this movie because of the bad reviews.

Her career was well and truly done . She should be thinking how lucky she was to go out with this iconic role . Her acting in the towering inferno was what ended her !

doug avila they are not glamor lol

I say it’s better than a tub.

@@ChiniWanders Joan Crawford HATED bathtubs. She didn't like sitting in her own bath water.

...and a complete waste of water and plumbing.

YA BUT SHE WAS A HOLLY WOOD QUEEN AND U ARE A NOBODY!!!!

ualflygal I’m an oboist and I’ve always found the score for this scene beautiful too

The score was fine for a crap film.

Omg LOL !!!

Good story. 😃

It's hard to believe those two little girls are probably 50 year old grandmothers now.

Now that's funny, I don't care who you are! ;-)

Someone else here said that thing with the ice and the witch hazel was part of her skincare routine to help open the pores. But I always took it to mean she probably had a huge hangover from the nioght before and she needed that and the coffee to get her up and alert.

I do not care what anyone says. I loved this movie. IT was excellent.

BLTKellys I think the only one she abused was Christina and Christopher. She had three other children that she kept in her will.

There were two others " the Twins"

BLTKellys exactly!

This is literally mental illness

You had to have discipline the new wave of younger actresses was coming in every year. It's that discipline that put her on top and made her unstoppable.

who don't

@@spinazzola5373 😆

It's too harsh for every day

you're telling me! See Very compulsive but she was she lovely!

Yes, someone mentioned it 2 years before you did.

I think this movie will be vindicated in time. Part of the initial bewilderment it caused in the press I think had to do primarily with the fact that this was the pioneering foray into the tell-all biopic genre, and critics were simply unprepared as to how to approach something quite so novel. It is human nature to rebel against that which one is unprepared to handle. Just food for thought.

You'll have no skin left

Her skin was a mess no wonder she always looked way older than she was

Great minds think alike! hahaha That's why I came here today! ;)

SgtBaker16. Everyone is offended by everything! Idc who I offend.

That is actually an old school beauty technique she uses the ice for. It is like an instant facelift by using the ice after the hot water scrub she does.

They always said cold water is better for the skin than hot.

Kevin Eggleston that is Erno laszlo technique cleansing

Yeah...NOTHING is as it seems!

To me Faye was overacting. Maybe that was the way the director asked her to do it.

I agree 100% Not only did Faye play her To-A-Tee The make up team was outstanding. She could have been Crawford's twin To this day I couldn't imagine another actress looking more the part of Joan Crawford than way Faye Dunway did in this movie

@@Ulydf A subtle Mommie? I don't see how.

Absolutely. Faye Dunaway is a great actress 👍 👏

If you pay attention the 80's were really just copying the 40's with bigger everything including shoulder pads.

post hoc ergo propter hoc is the common error you made here - it's the sign of an illogical mind

haha great line. i think it's the gentle perking of that silver coffee-pot that looks and sounds so inviting. it makes me want to get up at 4:00 AM and say "let's go."

I know what you mean Justin.. the quiet anonymous morning routine with no interruptions, and I dont know about you, but in the morning is there anything more wonderful than coffee right after you've showered and gotten dressed??

Justin W The scene does feel a bit clinical.

well stated, Justin. Even the music was right.

Yes it's quite reflective of the relationship cycle with an abuser

Its inspiring yet soothing. It's got high repeat value.

@@renee6524 I love the sound of the coffee percolator. 😂😂

I know right

JOAN WAS A SWEETHART ..AND U ARE A SLOB!!! NOW GO CLEAN UR DIRTY HOUSE!!!!!

CARLO FANTIGA Yes, Mommie Dearest 🥺

@@carlofantiga5058 How dare you!

@@suddendee damn that good acting👏👏👏

Many victims of childhood trauma develop OCD. She was one of them.

Not to mention the face of her alarm clock

Her favorite house decorators was longtime friend the Great Gay Actor William Haines .

Casey J a few times a week? you should wash your face morning and night every day thats just good hygiene

Haha, right?

@@RH-td7vc yes and wash everything too lol

@@RH-td7vc I think they meant like a scrub or special treatment. I wash my face with water daily but I use a gentle cleanser every other day. Then an exfoliation scrub around the 3rd day. My skin has never looked or felt better. Letting it breathe is essential. But that's just me.

That’s good. I don’t think you should wash your face every day. If you do you need to moisturize really well, but, natural oils I think are important in your hair and skin. I am not an aesthetician though

Me too!!!!😎

I agree. This opening and the music had great promise for a good bio-pic. Then it joyously entered the world of camp and hilarity. I mean wasn't their anyone on set who tried to pull the reigns in on Fayes crazy-ass performance? In a way I'm glad their wasn't. What a riot.

The grim silence only adds to the effect: Loneliness and gritty determination. Her life was a full-time job.

I think the opening of "Funny Girl" is just as impressive. Fanny (it's evening of course because she has to perform that night) walks in to the scene, from behind, with her to-die-for leopard coat and cloche hat. And suddenly, the marquee lights up with her name. She enters the theater, and she sees a mirror. Then, with that Streisand profile, with her eyes and nose, she says, "Hello, gorgeous." She should have won the Oscar for just the opening scene alone.

Saint Michael Yes! Another great opening sequence. And Babs did in fact win the Oscar for that role. After that opening it’s easy to see why!

@@hawrnball And Katherine Hepburn for "The Lion in Winter."

SUEDUCE Her house still exists in Brentwood look it up on KZfaq.

Joan Crawford's REAL house looked nothing like the house portrayed in the film. Her real house was more L-shaped as opposed to the more traditional "left wing, right wing" symmetrical style seen in the film.

Has she got a well too? In the garden perhaps, should the interior plumbing fail? Oh I see, you’re just not familiar with punctuation...

YA BUT UR A LOSER ON WELFARE!!!!

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that. She just oozes class.

But you're not.... You're always on that couch

​@@KanishQQuotes😂

after her over-the-top performance as Joan Crawford her career stalled out - nobody took her seriously after that and she still speaks negatively about the experience.

@@haintedhouse2990 faye wont even sign any autographs if it has anything to do with that movie. Kinda sad really, it seems like she could be her own enemy at times.

@@Oliver2020. yeah Faye needs to lighten up and laugh at it. Patty Duke used to crack up at her own performance in Valley of the Dolls and fans loved her for it.

Girl same

This movie would definitely be a good one to watch in middle of night or extreme early morning. ..for this scene alone.

agree. Henry Mancini's music is the perfect backdrop for Joan's isolated regiment

hopefully you never came across any wire hangers

The intro seemed to be directed by a different director.

Really

@Robert A. Lofgren Jr. 😒😒😒😒

i agree. the classy beautifully done intro does not match the tacky camp-fest that follows.

"Take away the pop eyes and the cigarettes and what have you got? Bette's a phony, but I guess the public likes that." - Joan Crawford

@@DeepScreenAnalysis “You should never say bad things about the dead, only good. Joan Crawford is dead … Good!”

@@DeepScreenAnalysis Yes. Both shared barbs, but also recognition of each other's talent.

“There goes a good time that’s been had by everybody.” - Bette Davis at an elite Hollywood party when Joan arrived

And what a lovely coffee percolator.

i agree. that hand hammered silver look...all the rage, very retro art deco 1940's. i looked for one like that on ebay, and all i could see were one's somewhat similar, but either rusted, or electrical was messed up. darn!

She seemed to have nearly a kitchen there with a fridge keeping her bowl of ice on the ready.

Thomas Watanabe Too Funny!

bduhe219 Dud you want to mimic the scene with the percolator in your own bathroom? Great idea!

Diane Baker said that while making Straight-Jacket, Joan kept the temperature freezing on the set so her face would hold up.

I was wondering why she was doing that.

John Hintergardt , I can also help kill bacteria on the face can cause bacteria

Breakouts ! Oops

@Peter Neal they say it was witch hazel if she used alcohol everyday her skin would be red and raw alcohol dries the skin she witch hazel is a skin cleanser and ice water

I'm sure Anne would have been great ! She was fine actress and I could definitely see her doing a tour-de-force with this role.. but I can only picture Faye Dunaway at this point.

She had OCD, probably borderline personality disorder and she was also abusive.

She needed psychological therapy so she could be at peace with herself and others.

She was sick in the head. There was and is no reason for her to be admired. She was very abusive and put her poor vunerable kids through Hell. She was a horrible person.

Too bad she may or may not have been a child abuser and hard to get along with

Imagine Joan during coronavirus

@@teejay5432 Tina... Bring me the mask

I too have a nail brush.

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cases will drop lower I guarantee you 😆

The reviews were bad.

I LOVE the opening - the sounds, the music, the coffee pot percolating - so cool. too bad the rest of the film soon turns into a shitshow. Faye should have sued! - her career never recovered.

@@haintedhouse2990 Sue who? Her companion was one of the executive producers.

Peter Neal- wtf. She didn’t do that.

Abusing her adopted daughter is not amazing at all

Macleata Kirkwood- oh for god sake that’s not true. Christina waited till her mother died to tell her story so she couldn’t defend herself. Christina just wanted the money and her 15 minutes of fame.

all fake! The crazy one was Christina @@macleatakirkwood6516

Macleata Kirkwood- she never did that. Her daughter Christina was just trying to get that money and fame

James Twelves she was mean demanding verry abusive

Robbed of an oscar? Boy people these days don't know the difference between good and bad.

You mean she was robbed of a Razzie.

Gunnhild Edwards Bette Davis was robbed too from Joan Crawford in the movie Whatever Happened To Baby Jane.

Hollywood was probably afraid that if they gave her an Oscar , they would be acknowledging what everybody knew about her but were afraid to discuss. The devil always takes care of narcissists

I hope to be a flight attendant when I finish high school, sounds like a very tiring job but totally worth it. :))

Plus mask. Lol

hope the similarities end there - no slapping passengers if they ask for more coffee.

@@haintedhouse3052 that would be hilarious. Chasing passengers up the aisle with wire hangers! Lmao!!

I am an actor and I work in real estate. Same routine.

I think many actresses back then used Lux soap. Try it. It's great!

Always wondered what was in the bucket of ice. Witch hazel, water or nothing? Either way it looked great. I know she was closing her pores. You can tell she wanted to be scrubbed clean. Joan Crawford did have beautiful skin always. Her routine worked. Genes helped too.

i would assume nothing myself? I am no expert but I think ice closes pores so the witch hazel mightbe pointless, it wouldn't get any excess dirt etc out of them but idk really. some people joke it was vodka... lol

Heavenbound Daughter I want to try it, I've always wondered what did this rich women use for soap 😊...

It looks unhealthy

I always loved this intro. I tried going from the hot water to the ice thing. my face broke out in red welts, stayed that way well into the work day. I thank Joan for this beauty tip.

Well, Hollywood movie stars lived utterly differently from the rest of the Western World (they still do, but the gap has closed up a little - I mean, most of us have a shower now). They had the cash to purchase the biggest and best most-up-to-the-minute Moderne mansions. Crawford’s home here actually looks *dated* for 1939 - the style is more like 1929/1930. Yes, there are photos of her real-life living room at around the same time, floating around on the web, but none of her bedroom, bathroom or closet, so we don’t know how it really looked anyway. Also, there *was* A/C in homes then - Norma Shearer (no friend of Joan’s!) had her and Irving Thalberg’s Santa Monica home sealed and air-conditioned throughout - in the early 1930s.

I thought that home was totally modern for 1939! The bedroom looked like a luxury department store! And I thought until the early 1950's NOBODY had air conditioning in their homes; it was strictly a large big city building and luxury hotel thing starting in the late 1920's and ice blocks used.

I also love how so much is told to you about the character with no dialogue only though visuals, the elaborate bathroom ritual, the coffee percolater and so on, not to mention fine editing. Then after the whole anonymous introduction when she finally turns around and we see her face, is almost worthy of applauds .

ChristoRay77 You're right. The style of Joan's house in the movie is very art deco--especially the whiplash banister of the staircase and the chandelier--which was popular in the 1920s.

Hmm, air conditioning was around !!! My grandparents had it in their home in the late 1930's..