Monster Hunter Rise PC vs Switch Comparison: PC Shines at 4K60FPS - But What Else Does It Add?

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A year on from the Switch exclusive release of Monster Hunter Rise we have a PC port, bearing several key additions including resolution and frame-rate upgrades. The graphics menu promises much more however, in the form of higher-res texture packs and shadows - plus a solution to a slew of limits of the Switch edition Tom assesses the quality of a well-rounded, if relatively no-frills conversion to PC.
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@mortysmith2192
@mortysmith2192 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure if this shows me how good the switch version looks or how much more they could've done with the pc port
@beanslol1725
@beanslol1725 2 жыл бұрын
Think its just that good. It doesn't really need much else improvement at least from what i see. God they did so good with the style of the game. The art is so good. The few things like bit better textures and high frames is very good though. Ngl got it on my switch but forgot about it and never got past the menu. But recently got it on pc. And man the smooth fps is sooo nice. And love the game art style still!. If they ever add cross save ill 100% play it on my switch when on the go.
@game.garden
@game.garden 2 жыл бұрын
@@beanslol1725 or steam deck :o
@luxemier
@luxemier 2 жыл бұрын
@@beanslol1725 i agree that the switch version is a masterpiece (visuals wise). but the pc port is definitely nowhere near impressive and looks significantly worse than world
@mortysmith2192
@mortysmith2192 2 жыл бұрын
@Mat Sci lol
@lay10vids
@lay10vids 2 жыл бұрын
@Mat Sci someone’s angry lmao
@system2716
@system2716 2 жыл бұрын
Surprised there's no mention that the 100% image quality setting appears to be less than native. And there's no way to scale to 4k outside of using DSR, which the desktop resolution also has to be set to otherwise it won't work.
@KhromTX
@KhromTX 2 жыл бұрын
wtf
@JaggSwag230
@JaggSwag230 2 жыл бұрын
Who- who commented first?
@prysma2057
@prysma2057 Ай бұрын
True
@Holammer
@Holammer 2 жыл бұрын
If they took the time to paint the environments with a bit more foliage it would have looked much better as certain scenes look really barren. With just a few painfully obvious cross hatched foliage textures.
@marcheharvey2301
@marcheharvey2301 Жыл бұрын
Hardware limitation is pretty obvious the main reason.
@angrywhalewatcher
@angrywhalewatcher 2 жыл бұрын
MH Rise on the Switch is amazing. I can't believe what Capcom squeezed out of that limited tech
@Jennifer-cg5ih
@Jennifer-cg5ih 2 жыл бұрын
They chose limited tech If you researched in Tindo’s philosophy they believe in using shitty hardware to make good things unfortunately since it’s 2022 that model is pretty much useless seeing how no new game can run on the console I barely 30 we Nintendo fans need to start demanding more
@markellhawthorne2921
@markellhawthorne2921 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jennifer-cg5ih You need to get better at English.
@sandansaiyan5675
@sandansaiyan5675 2 жыл бұрын
Alien Isolation vibe
@tigerex777
@tigerex777 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jennifer-cg5ih Nintendo fans are like Apple fans, don't expect too much from them.
@triple-d2640
@triple-d2640 2 жыл бұрын
@@Jennifer-cg5ih Kirby and the forgotten lands frame rate is horrible
@JoshRudis
@JoshRudis 2 жыл бұрын
The shadow-banding artifacts are very consistent for me when using the hub canteen (only the hub canteen though).
@Tahnit28
@Tahnit28 2 жыл бұрын
I play on switch and I Just couldn’t justify abandoning my hunter to move to pc. The improvements are decent but not worth redoing all that time. IF they would have put in cross save it would have been a day 1 purchase. Big missed opportunity by capcom as they lost a sale and I doubt im the only one. Also it just doesnt look that much better honestly. It looks like a switch game on pc.
@metroplex29
@metroplex29 2 жыл бұрын
At first I thought the same, until I play at 60fps and wow, it may look the same as the switch but it feels much better.
@TakumiJoyconBoyz
@TakumiJoyconBoyz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sure you could just use a save editor to recreate your character exactly as they are on PC. I know you could do that for Monster Hunter World.
@arcimagogix9034
@arcimagogix9034 2 жыл бұрын
It's my case too. I'll Stick with the Switch edition without cross save
@gamesboy123able
@gamesboy123able 2 жыл бұрын
You cant even imagine how horrible 30fps is until you try something better
@Mizgala28
@Mizgala28 2 жыл бұрын
@@gamesboy123able Imagine playing 30fps games and 120fps games and being fine and just enjoying what you play... (like me) And I am not saying there is no difference, there is a lot of difference but people dramatise it a lot sometimes. Anyhow I did double dip on PC, 120fps at 1440p does look better than on Switch, but the difference graphically is less than some would think. The game is of course much lighter than World, I get at max 90% of the time 120fps, with World on max (volumetrics and AA off) I am at around 70~90fps most of the time (3700x + 2070S)
@JingJange
@JingJange 2 жыл бұрын
No cross save was a deal breaker for me. But it dose look nice on PC 👍 if they add it I might double dip for the extra fps and image clarity for home play.
@camilofuentes7056
@camilofuentes7056 2 жыл бұрын
monter hunter 3 had cross savings betwen 3ds and wii u, so it wouldn't surprise me if gets featured in an update rather soon. unless nintendo is somehow involved in this issue and for wathever crap reason they don't allow it
@iamcll
@iamcll 2 жыл бұрын
Eh cheat-mods fix the cross save issue, Like on MHW i just cheated everything in my ps4 file to make a perfect copy.
@maegnificant
@maegnificant 2 жыл бұрын
they'll add it after the dlc is out and sold well
@SumitShrivastava17
@SumitShrivastava17 2 жыл бұрын
Modding will bring it. Buy near sunbreak then.
@NeoSyder
@NeoSyder 2 жыл бұрын
Guys in the comments are delusional. Nintendo doesn't care about crosssave with other machines
@g0ggy
@g0ggy 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanted to let you know that the 30fps cap during cutscenes can be circumvented through mods flawlessly. The cutscenes aren't prerendered.
@metroplex29
@metroplex29 2 жыл бұрын
Well, even pre-rendered 30fps cinematics can be converted to 60fps with a mod.
@coreym8145
@coreym8145 2 жыл бұрын
oh really? is it on nexus mods. i will download it but i am playing god of war so ive not been able to play MH properly yet
@DJHEADPHONENINJA
@DJHEADPHONENINJA 2 жыл бұрын
@Stef * huh that's weird because I got both ultrawide and do enjoy playing on consoles every now and then. Seems your statement is full of shit.
@corey2232
@corey2232 2 жыл бұрын
@Stef * What's the ultra wide 4k equivalent resolution? I primarily play on PC (with some Switch), but I can safely say I prefer 4k/60fps over 1440p/120+ fps. I haven't had an ultra wide monitor before though, so I'm not familiar with the resolutions they use.
@-aexc-
@-aexc- 2 жыл бұрын
@@metroplex29 getting an ai to add frames looks terrible, ai upscaling is great tho
@MrThecoolman
@MrThecoolman 2 жыл бұрын
HDR is so neglected recently. This game has it, most things I’ve seen have no mention. Usually I have to mess with the settings to get it to look right but it was great out of the box!
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 2 жыл бұрын
All games should have HDR at this point
@MrThecoolman
@MrThecoolman 2 жыл бұрын
@@HugoStiglitz88 Witcher 3 has it on console, and still has yet to get it on PC. It’s coming in the “next gen” update wtf.
@zombiebillcosby
@zombiebillcosby 2 жыл бұрын
It’s true, and worse are the people who buy crap HDR tvs and say that HDR is ass because that’s the only experience they’ve had. My friend absolutely loathes it because his 4 series TCL displays it horribly. He said it makes things too dark (not surprising) it’s a shame, hopefully one day cheaper HDR displays won’t be such shit.
@brewski535
@brewski535 2 жыл бұрын
@@zombiebillcosby most pc monitors suck at HDR because they aren't bright enough. Also, in my case, my monitor doesn't allow HDR + BFI at the same time so I almost never use it. BFI is way more important to me.
@brewski535
@brewski535 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrThecoolman have you tried it with Windows 11's auto HDR?
@HeinSmit1
@HeinSmit1 2 жыл бұрын
With 150% image rendering at 3440x1440 it looks quite sharp, but thank you for mentioning it I completely forgot about it. I think I am going to try stick to 100% to try get a locked 144fps. Perhaps experiment with the new DLDSR to get the internal res bump with some performance to spare
@brewski535
@brewski535 2 жыл бұрын
I think DLDSR doesn't improve performance per se over DSR, just image quality. So a 2.25x DSR and 2.25x DLDSR have the same frame rate, it's just that the DLDSR image looks better. I could well be wrong here though as I haven't used it much yet. Alex is working on an upcoming video about it... My big issue with DSR and DLDSR is that they break VRR for me. I guess the higher resolutions are out of my 1440p monitor's range...
@killerfugu2659
@killerfugu2659 2 жыл бұрын
With how easy this port runs, over 120fps with 150% image quality at 4k on my 3080 I would love to see a Monster Hunter take full advantage of the RE engine and have a graphic level of something such as Resi 8. Either way happy I got this game again, plays so much better than the Switch version thanks to 120fps.
@bluedragon219123
@bluedragon219123 2 жыл бұрын
I think it's important to say that the reason Capcom got rid of Kinematics, mentioned as walking animation in this video, is because it's CPU heavy and the Nintendo Switch is fairly CPU bound/limited even compared to the XBox One and PS4 and especially PC. The other main reason is that monsters that "slide" like Leviathans, and few others, don't walk on four or two legs , which would be the points computed with Kinematics, but instead their entire bodies and that causes a CPU bottleneck which the XBox One and PS4 couldn't overcome and the Nintendo Switch wouldn't/can't either and why some popular monster didn't appear in World, the PC could overpower that limit but I don't think Capcom would release monsters only on one platform on a multi platform game, even the PC. So I don't see or think that Kinematics will return, at least for the next titles and or console generations, but it's possible. :)
@quantizedanson
@quantizedanson 2 жыл бұрын
Well said !
@nebula8893
@nebula8893 2 жыл бұрын
Well I think if mh6 is new gen/pc exclusive like world was, then new gen and pc may be able to reasonably handle those kinematics. Hard to say though as I think the series S underperforms a little bit so we will have to see
@Crazy_2100
@Crazy_2100 8 ай бұрын
@@nebula8893 I think the cpu is same between the X and S so should be fine on that side.
@MisterLindsay
@MisterLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
While it's nice to know how the top spec machines handle, I think you've looked at this back-to-front. The main comparisons here should have been with low-mid spec PCs to show how well it can run on those systems. The 'Recommended' GPU on Steam is a 1060 3GB, with a 1030 as the 'Minimum', and it given how great the game is on Switch anyway, it would have been most useful for people with less powerful/expensive systems to know what they needed to get a decent 1080/60 fps presentation which would allow them to comfortably enjoy this great game. EDIT: And comparisons on those low-spec machines with MHW might have been interesting as I suspect that the older game is much more demanding even on low settings.
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking just this while watching too. They should be using the same "popular" hardware that Steam shows what users are using. Makes for a much fairer comparison.
@bettaskye8665
@bettaskye8665 2 жыл бұрын
A GTX 1050 Ti can handle 1080p max settings with 60+ FPS
@Xbob42
@Xbob42 2 жыл бұрын
I personally hate it when we get a PC version and they only look at really low-end hardware, I want to see what my high-end hardware can do. That said, I think the obvious solution is to address both! Show us what a GTX 980 Ti and an RTX 3090 can do, and maybe an inbetween card to boot. I think seeing a nice spread of PC hardware playing the game gives people a really good idea of what to expect.
@dianavi1893
@dianavi1893 2 жыл бұрын
This game is clearly less demanding than MHW, I get 50-60 FPS at 1080p on MHW while this game runs at ~120 FPS at 1440p. However, unless they fixed it since the demo, the game can only run on DX12 compatible cards. It's really weird to think that my brother played MHW on a GTX 660 at 30 FPS on low, but can't even open this game.
@MisterLindsay
@MisterLindsay 2 жыл бұрын
@@dianavi1893 That's some really interesting stuff that I would have expected to learn from the video itself, rather than a comment on it. Cheers.
@sow_scout4989
@sow_scout4989 2 жыл бұрын
This is nice but things we kind of expected that after seeing this, im still more intrigued with what they accomplished with the Switch rather than the upgrades itself.
@mauryj.3415
@mauryj.3415 2 жыл бұрын
Not much, the switch had a bunch of framerates issues and poor textures
@TerryVideoZone
@TerryVideoZone 2 жыл бұрын
@@mauryj.3415 yep, playing in multiplayer even with a wired connection got pretty bad at times.
@therealbalto24
@therealbalto24 2 жыл бұрын
@@mauryj.3415 better than world on ps4 atleast. Sub 20 fps lol
@mauryj.3415
@mauryj.3415 2 жыл бұрын
@@therealbalto24 world runs so much better on PS4 than this, but perfect but at least way better, MH rise drops to 16fps at times lol
@therealbalto24
@therealbalto24 2 жыл бұрын
@@mauryj.3415 buddy there is analysis of both on this very channel anyone with half a brain can go look for themselves. Mhw on ps4 is 20fps with dips and mhr is 30 fps with dips. That's just FACTS unless you're saying you know better than Df themselves lmao.
@skpride415
@skpride415 2 жыл бұрын
For anyone wondering, I mainly play this on my gaming laptop with a rtx 3060 but have also tried it on my gpd win 3. It's the 1165g7 version with 96 eus on Intels iris xe integrated graphics. With a custom bat file to run the chip at 35 watt tdp (instead of the stock max of 28 watts) I can get a solid 60 fps at 1080p with 150% resolution scale and almost everything on high except for mesh detail and with foliage sway off. It plays amazing and it was really shocking to see it run at 60 fps 1080p on integrated graphics. It's a credit to both iris xe and how well the RE engine scales for lower end hardware. I was a bit skeptical when they released the system requirements because the recommended gtx 1060 only giving 1080p 30 fps seemed a bit conservative considering the immensely less powerful switch could run it at over 720p 30 fps. TLDR: Anyone running more modern integrated graphics should be able to play this have at 60 fps with a few tweaks at a decent resolution
@Lalesama1987
@Lalesama1987 2 жыл бұрын
how does it perform on a RTX3060 for laptops?
@skpride415
@skpride415 2 жыл бұрын
@@Lalesama1987 my laptop has the i7 11375h and the 3060 only runs at 65 watt tdp with dynamic boost. It's the msi stealth 15m. It's meant to be a super portable slim gaming rig with the dimensions of a chrome book pretty much. Sacrifices power for portability. 65w has about 10-25% less performance depending on the game than the max 115w on better laptops. I cap at 90 fps with no problems with everything on high and VRS enabled. Runs beautifully.
@carl8790
@carl8790 2 жыл бұрын
Good to hear. I really dislike reviews like this video for using a really high end computer to test these games. It doesn't even try to show the performance the wider gaming public will experience.
@jimshoos5272
@jimshoos5272 2 жыл бұрын
I think they low-balled the recommended specs output to be safe, but on my pc (Ryzen 5 3600, AMD RX 580 8 GB) the game runs 1080p max settings around 90 - 110 fps. On Monster Hunter World, I needed to turn some settings down to medium or low in order to get 1080p 60-80 fps.
@TotalXPvideos
@TotalXPvideos 2 жыл бұрын
it is kinda sad if that's the case HOW WEAK the switch is, 1080p with 150% resolution and you get 60 fps on integrated graphics, switch isn't able to do either resolution or performance.
@Drragnorr
@Drragnorr 2 жыл бұрын
BEWARE Dynamic Shadows option is creating a courtain of grain at certain distance around the character. I think this is caused by switch form high res to low res shadows and lighting changes at the same distance with this option off. But this switch is much less noticable, then this grain which covers the screen at that distance, if you have the option on. Here you can see It at 4:51.
@skpride415
@skpride415 2 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks for the info. I noticed this right away during my first village mission and was wondering what setting was causing it. It's super noticeable on a big TV while wyvern riding as it seems the increased fov pulls the banding much closer than it normally is.
@mox9574
@mox9574 2 жыл бұрын
So if you disable dynamic shadows this will disappear?
@Janosch122lp
@Janosch122lp 2 жыл бұрын
I'm running an i5 10400f and gtx 970. I'm hitting 100+ fps on medium settings and in 1440p. I'm super happy with this result. MHW struggled to hit 60fps all the time and in 1080p.
@nocfox3050
@nocfox3050 2 жыл бұрын
If only this had Cross-Save and Crossplay.. Honestly that would have been very beneficial, especially to people who may have a PC/Switch setup.. But the game does look great on PC and for people who bought it on PC, Hope y'all are enjoying your time with it so far
@wardog3d
@wardog3d 2 жыл бұрын
Yea this is the main reason I am not buying it again for PC. If only I could have had cross save I would have bought it again day one.
@nocfox3050
@nocfox3050 2 жыл бұрын
@@wardog3d I would have bought it on PC whenever I got the Steam Deck but since there is no Cross-Save at the very least, I'm content with just the Switch version as well
@gishathosaurus6828
@gishathosaurus6828 2 жыл бұрын
I said I wouldn't buy it on PC... but after playing the demo, now I'm on 83 hours alredy ^_^ Also, there's mods that allow you to customize those pesky RNG charms too
@tacticalevil
@tacticalevil 2 жыл бұрын
So for awhile I was having problems with stuttering killing my game. Turns out the issue was with my Occulus Rift. Apparently it was mirroring what was going on in my monitor (I think) and when I unplugged it from my pc the game was running completely fine. Ever since I've been playing the game at a locked 141 and it's amazing. So yeah, if someone is having a similar issue maybe try that.
@iwishihadgoodinternet7766
@iwishihadgoodinternet7766 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah i noticed the artifacting on the "chin" area on pc too. But not too distracting when maxed
@Yojimbocatfish
@Yojimbocatfish 2 жыл бұрын
I still don’t understand how I can play online with 4 slicing bow guns during a rampage and there is zero lag. This game completely baffles my mind on switch versus all of the other games we have (looking at you Age of Calamity)
@absolutelyeverything
@absolutelyeverything 2 жыл бұрын
Can you guys do a comparison of all Deep Rock Galactic versions?
@Daigon95
@Daigon95 2 жыл бұрын
I like how easy the game runs tbh (yes yes bc it was built for the Switch so duuur lol) On my 2080 I can easily run this at 4K 60fps at 150% image quality. (aka 6K internally) or 4k 120fps at 100%
@Granhier
@Granhier 2 жыл бұрын
Even my 1070 runs 4k60 effortlessly. It's insane.
@Solegor
@Solegor 2 жыл бұрын
So what about performance on other hardware (at least 1 low end spec and 1 middle end to get the feeling of scalability? What about support for ultra-wide? What about 120 fps or higher support?
@killerfugu2659
@killerfugu2659 2 жыл бұрын
It has 21:9 support, but I don't think wider. It has a uncapped frame rate option, I have a 5800x and RTX3080 and play it at 4k 120fps with it maxed and 150% image quality. I'd imagine any old or low end PC could easily do 1440p 60fps or really low end could do 1080p 60. For 120+ you'd want a 3600 or better as it gets single core CPU heavy.
@Echopass
@Echopass 2 жыл бұрын
I cant wait for digital foundry to start doing steam deck comparisons
@traxtan6694
@traxtan6694 2 жыл бұрын
Steamdeck is just a pc but with custom presets, you could put the same settings on your own pc.
@Echopass
@Echopass 2 жыл бұрын
@@traxtan6694 yes? But what it does have limitations I don't want to fiddle with a game to get optimal performance. I'd rather just watch a video of someone doing it to see if putting the game on the deck is worth my time
@Oceaniz
@Oceaniz 2 жыл бұрын
7:37 Small addendum, while the FPS-Halving is removed on enemies, Endemic life (the lil birds that you collect) are still affected by it - you can even see it on the green Vigorwasp in that PC shot. 10:48 Sadly, somewhat inaccurate. MOST cutscenes remain locked at 30fps, as in 90% of them well into the endgame. However, you can circumvent that with a mod called RiseTweaks which allows the cutscenes to render at your selected settings.
@SuperMacro64
@SuperMacro64 2 жыл бұрын
They most likely purposely set the cutscenes to 24FPS for a more cinematic feel. I went to school for filming it's required to make us believe something is more professional when watching media. The higher the framerate the more unprofessional and amateur non videogame related material is subconsciously interpreted.
@WiseGuy3683
@WiseGuy3683 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to snag the PC version of this, but alas, the lack of cross save and cross play made me reconsider. I just don't feel like redoing everything all over again.
@mangomates900
@mangomates900 2 жыл бұрын
I chose 100% image quality on 4k with a 1080, and get 100 - 120 fps, its world changing coming from the switch version.
@RobOngrui
@RobOngrui 2 жыл бұрын
Screenspace Shadows would have been great for foliage - everything smaller than a tree just floats
@sumbius1576
@sumbius1576 2 жыл бұрын
On PC endemic life still occasionally suffers from that Switch half framerate animation at sometimes surprisingly short distances
@Gure_Shimo
@Gure_Shimo Жыл бұрын
I was 100% that you would've made a video on Nier Replicant 1.22 (remake/remaster) comparing it to the original. But apparently it wasn't done. It would've been really interesting
@kenpachizaraki4303
@kenpachizaraki4303 2 жыл бұрын
I've played this game on my switch a lot. I'm just happy I can play it on 60fps now on pc
@Devils1023
@Devils1023 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing changed thats worth buying. Only thing i can see thats worth is the modding community. No one cares about these changes that are hardly noticeable.
@ThoughTMusic
@ThoughTMusic 2 жыл бұрын
The side by side comparisons around the 5:00 mark really surprised me. I was expecting more of a wow factor, but the Switch holds up really well. It's so impressive that one is aging mobile tablet hardware while the other is a literal RTX Titan desktop GPU.
@Erik-vf9yn
@Erik-vf9yn 2 жыл бұрын
That's not how this works, though. You don't say "wow, that almost looks the same, the console version must be great!" when the console version was the first one to come out. All it means is that they didn't change that much about the pc version.
@Deadlines-X
@Deadlines-X 2 жыл бұрын
@@Erik-vf9yn ikr he making it sound like the rtx is being maxed out when it really isnt, mh world is better example vs switch rise.
@brunosouza3326
@brunosouza3326 2 жыл бұрын
The switch is not as good as the pc version, the pc version that is as bad as the switch.
@echoingfury4759
@echoingfury4759 2 жыл бұрын
you would have the wow effect if the Pc version came out first - so it´s just a Switch Port with little enhancements but looks way worse than MHW did - i really hope the Next MH Game doesn´t include the Switch and also just Next Gen Consoles - cause that´s when the Graphics really going to get good
@ThoughTMusic
@ThoughTMusic 2 жыл бұрын
@Mat Sci “Nintendon’t” while we watch a video of the game running on Switch…. Also, not that it matters, but the RTX Titan is about 16.3 TFLOPs while a Switch that’s docked is around 786 GFLOPs. So based on that, an RTX Titan would be closer to around 21 Nintendo Switches, not 1000. Thanks for your response though.
@RodimusPrime29
@RodimusPrime29 Жыл бұрын
Just built a new PC & have been playing MHW on a launch day ps4.... should I go for MHRise on PC or MHW on PC?
@Cipher_XoF
@Cipher_XoF 2 жыл бұрын
To think, Pokemon Legends looks like a PS2 gen game, where as Capcom made this beauty on the Switch.
@Isaac-bu8hu
@Isaac-bu8hu 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid! This game looks good at low resolutions, but once you see it in 4k, it's hard to go back.
@Mike.9o
@Mike.9o 2 жыл бұрын
Especially when you see it in 8K on my 5
@xBINARYGODx
@xBINARYGODx 2 жыл бұрын
uses an RTX Titan... uh - who owns that? mostly no one, and its not like you need that to max this out at 4k. Weird comparison is weird.
@isaiah1516
@isaiah1516 2 жыл бұрын
Dumped well over 100 hours on the Switch version and I can't wait to pick this up on Steam so I can play it in 4k and on my Steam Deck!
@zemocon2868
@zemocon2868 2 жыл бұрын
Have fun buying the same game twice
@METALDKNO
@METALDKNO 2 жыл бұрын
Nintendo switch version holds up quite well.
@expomancer
@expomancer 2 жыл бұрын
As someone that regularly goes back and plays older games from the series there is one thing that the PC version unfortunately can't do out of the box, and that is supply functional multiplayer after the servers get taken offline. The PSP, 3dS, and Switch games all support local connection, meaning that if you have RL friends that play, you can still hunt together without hoping someone in the emulation scene will write network functionality into an emulator, and that someone will figure out how to get around the master server issues. World will be only the 3rd game in the series where multiplayer will cease to be available when Capcom decides to kill the servers. This alone makes it a disappointing title in many ways, despite the other improvements it made. Oh, and Rise PC also uses Denuvo. That's disappointing too. Still looks nice though.
@Xbob42
@Xbob42 2 жыл бұрын
True, it can't do it out of the box... but you don't get into PC gaming just for what games can do officially out of the box. No games are kept alive and online longer than PC games with dedicated communities. I have full confidence I'll be able to play online with my friends on PC in 30 years, provided we're all still alive and electricity and the internet still exists. I'm not even sure I'd still have my Switch (or any Switch) in good working form in 30 years, let alone enough for us to all get together and play a local match. I mean, you only need to look as far as Phantasy Star Online! That said, I would never say no to proper, official local multiplayer support on PC, my point wasn't to denigrate that, just that I think that's a bit of a short-sighted view.
@MDMDMD666
@MDMDMD666 2 жыл бұрын
Denuvo is cringe af
@Kougeru
@Kougeru 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even notice Denuvo cuz the game runs like melted butter
@Lutyrannus
@Lutyrannus 2 жыл бұрын
I'm late, but it's worth mentioning that there are far more than 2 MH games that can't be played multiplayer anymore, unless you're only counting Western releases. Monster Hunter, Monster Hunter G, Monster Hunter Dos, and Monster Hunter Tri had all their online content lost when the servers were shut down. Thanks to private servers you can play Monster Hunter and Monster Hunter G online again, and the other two are able to accessed but only solo currently. Private servers are being worked on. Luckily with World, once the servers go down, the content itself is still accessible excluding event quests. DRM still sucks though
@ItsAkile
@ItsAkile 2 жыл бұрын
No cross progression gonna be pain for some but nice to see its aleast not broken, pretty much gonna run decent on most respectable low-end gpu coming from a mobile game
@jynxce
@jynxce 2 жыл бұрын
Cross save for progress on the go? That’s what me future Deck is for.
@zorroknowsbetter
@zorroknowsbetter 2 жыл бұрын
Can not wait for the Steam Deck just to play this game. It'll be the definite portable experience.
@JP-me7sy
@JP-me7sy 2 жыл бұрын
MH WORLD on Steam Deck >>>>
@metroplex29
@metroplex29 2 жыл бұрын
@@JP-me7sy nah
@ShadyPaperclips
@ShadyPaperclips 2 жыл бұрын
at first i thought Steam Deck would be a poor man's version of the Switch, but after all i've it looks better and better each time. Almost unbeliavable its selling for that price
@j.d.6915
@j.d.6915 2 жыл бұрын
Just doesn't have the resume feature that Switch has.
@brewski535
@brewski535 2 жыл бұрын
@AzenStreams has anyone's yet?
@hailgod1
@hailgod1 Жыл бұрын
i dont know why this was compared as a 4k60 title. it runs like a dream at 1440 165. its smoothness is not ever comparable to the switch version, which look choppy even compared to 60 it looks good enough and just feels so damn good to play at such a high fps
@davidv7825
@davidv7825 2 жыл бұрын
Only DF would compare switch vs pc_4k, next video atari vs pc_4k
@GameslordXY
@GameslordXY 2 жыл бұрын
@Digital Foundry No response to Horizon II : Forbiden West Story Trailer ? You know,tech analysis and stuff
@tresfordays9644
@tresfordays9644 Жыл бұрын
I’m glad they ported it to PC, because I know there are a lot of die hard fans who have good PCs that would not get a switch to play, but the portability is one of the main positives of the switch version, it came it clutch on those long deployments out to sea
@MrH-GB
@MrH-GB 2 жыл бұрын
I bought the collectors edition on Switch and enjoyed it, but the PC port is completely another beast. I cannot stress how much better the game feels on my PC running at 1440p/165Hz with improved visuals and instant loading times on an NVMe SSD. It takes a great game and turns it into one of my favourites of all time. I'm really surprised you didn't mention the loading time improvements.
@EXDC
@EXDC 2 жыл бұрын
Wtf are my twin????? I also bought the Switch Collectors edition, and now play it at 1440p/165hz and was just about to comment about load times! For a sec I thought i already commented when I saw yours 😆
@Hohlopidor
@Hohlopidor Жыл бұрын
Я долго ждал версию для xbox series x, и был расстроен, игра выглядит точно так же, это просто портативная игра, и играть на больших консолях в неё не хочеться
@ruijikisu
@ruijikisu 2 жыл бұрын
165fps locked for me, thats all i needed from the PC port :)
@itslit5672
@itslit5672 2 жыл бұрын
yup same here
@knueppelkrause
@knueppelkrause 2 жыл бұрын
11:22 that's bold
@blodsian
@blodsian 2 жыл бұрын
He was obviously referring to MHrise and not the whole MH series, ultimately the comparison here is between the 2 MH games running under the RE engine. His paragrah started at 11:00 clearly referring to MHrise Whether it was intentional or not, omiting "rise" to his statement says he's either sloppy at his work or purposely click baiting statements... but i doubt it's the latter.
@thibaultv
@thibaultv 2 жыл бұрын
*Insert "they're the same picture" meme*
@TheLastZonai
@TheLastZonai 2 жыл бұрын
This game is already a masterpiece on Switch. 300h + and waiting for Sunbreak to release.
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 2 жыл бұрын
That's why I didn't buy it. 😢 I would of also had around 300+ hours. But I may finally get the ultimate edition if it comes out. On switch of course.
@cromoescobar
@cromoescobar 2 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing Switch experience...
@KEGosti
@KEGosti 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnegel9546 it's not a separate game, it's an add-on to the base game so you don't lose any progress
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 2 жыл бұрын
@@KEGosti so it's just dlc? Any info if they have an ultimate version coming out?
@nocfox3050
@nocfox3050 2 жыл бұрын
@dnegel They're **Might** be a potential complete edition perhaps on Switch? I'm not sure, I'm just guessing it's possible one day
@CrunchgTime
@CrunchgTime 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid! As always 👌
@ArmanHendra
@ArmanHendra 2 жыл бұрын
Graphic wise it was okay. PC has higher texture, frame rate etc. But gameplay-wise especially for gunner - or archer - PC version lacks motion controller - which turns me into an archer on MHRise. Even the steam motion control emulation setting won't do as good as in switch.
@Leelareso
@Leelareso 8 ай бұрын
ah yes bc is hard to connect controller to pc xDDD
@ErenTheWarcriminal
@ErenTheWarcriminal 2 жыл бұрын
So consoles next?
@danquaza9275
@danquaza9275 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else find that the showdown cascade is very close on pc. Sometimes I don’t notice it and then other times I feel like I can just see it pushing along the world as I walk. I get that’s how it works but I never noticed it in my 100+ hours on switch. So I wonder why it stands out so much on pc with max settings across the board
@astrohibious2954
@astrohibious2954 Жыл бұрын
Still god damn happy I got it on pc
@6DADADA
@6DADADA 2 жыл бұрын
After pumping around 300+ hours on the switch I can tell you that the switch to pc is worth it. Also this game with HDR enabled is just gorgeous
@onizuka4534
@onizuka4534 2 жыл бұрын
Dunno what to do there after 60 hours...
@brett20000000009
@brett20000000009 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking how does 4k rendering look so blurry on the pc? then I seen taa+fxaa ticked.. that explains it, maxing out all settings doesn't always mean better.
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 2 жыл бұрын
Shame the demo on Steam seems to max out at 720p. I cant check if itll play at 60 at 1080 without forking out for the full game. ☹
@-aexc-
@-aexc- 2 жыл бұрын
🏴‍☠️ as a trial
@Bassquake76
@Bassquake76 2 жыл бұрын
@@-aexc- 😉
@KramerJones
@KramerJones 2 жыл бұрын
Sick video
@0de242
@0de242 2 жыл бұрын
As someone with very lowend specs (RX550, i5 2400), I can say this game runs comfortably at 1080p medium at 60fps.
@Ryuujin1078
@Ryuujin1078 2 жыл бұрын
If Capcom had implemented cross-save between Switch and PC this would’ve been a day-one purchase! But to do all that hunting and grinding again…nah not worth it. A very big missed opportunity
@Axer128
@Axer128 2 жыл бұрын
Why only test for 60fps? This game supports 144+ / uncapped.. At least some mention of that would of been nice.. And ideally, some testing.
@Thicc_Boyo
@Thicc_Boyo 2 жыл бұрын
Threadripper? Isn't that more of a server CPU?
@MrLeoKing00
@MrLeoKing00 2 жыл бұрын
People who say the side by side comparison doesn't look that much different. Here's a tip: maybe try actually watching this video on a screen that supports 4k resolution. If you already are and still can't tell the difference then I have nothing else to say
@choo_choo_
@choo_choo_ 2 жыл бұрын
There's more to an image than the resolution, dingus. If you can't tell the difference then I have nothing else to say.
@MrLeoKing00
@MrLeoKing00 2 жыл бұрын
@@choo_choo_ did you misunderstood me? I'm saying that there is a difference. I know there are more than just resolutions, but what I said is the easiest way for those who keep saying that there isn't a difference to actually see them. Learn how to read better before you call people out, "dingus"
@jZamora87
@jZamora87 2 жыл бұрын
this game is so fast paced and amazing, I loved world but I think this might edge it just a bit.
@Neoxon619
@Neoxon619 2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to see what further advancements Capcom Dev 2 can do with the RE Engine going into Monster Hunter 6.
@ProphitDesigns
@ProphitDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest, this comparison only reinforces my decision to stay on the Switch version for when Sunbreak releases. As nice as it would be to run Rise on my PC maxed out at higher refresh rates, my experience with the Switch version was largely flawless. I was able to complete the game without any qualms over it being a sometimes inconsistent 30fps. Had Capcom promoted cross-progression of some sort, then MAYBE I'd double dip once Sunbreak releases. But as it stands, I'm still quite impressed with Switch's offering for Rise and will stick to that platform.
@reyjustine7116
@reyjustine7116 2 жыл бұрын
I'm gonna get it on PC eventually when it goes on a decent sale since my partner wants to try it out but yeah I agree with you that for the most part I'll be sticking to Switch esp for Sunbreak. The Switch version has been perfect for me being in your mid 20s working an 8hr job. Also I sometimes here people say the Rise doesn't look good on Switch and to those people I say get some glasses lol
@ProphitDesigns
@ProphitDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
@@reyjustine7116 Seriously. I consider myself to have a keen eye for technical showcases in games and I'm still taken aback by how well Rise runs and looks on Switch hardware. You'd fool me into thinking it was a first party title.
@mauryj.3415
@mauryj.3415 2 жыл бұрын
Shut I couldn't wait for the PC, the switch version was vomit inducing to me, I'm glad I waited.
@CZProductions
@CZProductions 2 жыл бұрын
There will be save editors like there were for World, just wait for that and then you can give yourself all the stuff you had on Switch! Easy peasy!
@ProphitDesigns
@ProphitDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
@@CZProductions I'll consider it if and when Rise goes on sale before Sunbreak lol
@BoyProdigyBaby
@BoyProdigyBaby 2 жыл бұрын
Switch version looks great compered to PC.
@Gloamy17
@Gloamy17 2 жыл бұрын
I tried really hard to like Rise but it just pales in comparison to World and others ... Rise looks lovely and plays great. Really cool monster and level design. Love the village. But the entire game is just way too damn easy! I breezed through the entire thing - I think I got like 2 carts for the entire game 😯 while it's cool to have an easy mode, Rise should at least have an option for increased difficulty. Gotta say I love the look here with this PC port. Awesome!😆
@modermonkula
@modermonkula 2 жыл бұрын
Switch holds its own very well, i can barely see a difference when sitting about 7ft from a 50ich 4k screen. What makes the world of difference is 60fps vs 30fps
@pythonxz
@pythonxz 2 жыл бұрын
I'd imagine this runs pretty well on the Steam Deck. Has anyone tried it out?
@BogusLettuce
@BogusLettuce 8 ай бұрын
i have. runs very well. solid 60fps even at the full 800p. but your battery will drain like crazy
@smokingpenut1421
@smokingpenut1421 2 жыл бұрын
Finally thank you !!
@anonymous16472
@anonymous16472 2 жыл бұрын
Lighting looks pretty bad maybe because switch limitations?
@guards1992
@guards1992 2 жыл бұрын
Sadly capcom downgrade the graphic to be more handheld since in japan they like their handheld console and play where they feel it right comparison wise i don't really see the difference other then 60 FPS graphic wise it kinda look the same but i might be wrong
@James14OO
@James14OO 2 жыл бұрын
It looks great on pc but if I'm honest this is so impressive on switch and the difference isn't really that striking at all to me. I do get that it's essentially a game built for switch just boosted up for pc but I think I'd play it on switch even if I hadn't bought it already. The upgrades aren't worth the loss in portability, to me at least.
@AdmiralBison
@AdmiralBison 2 жыл бұрын
There are Handheld Gaming PCs now and SteamDeck releasing next month. So there will be no loss in portability.
@James14OO
@James14OO 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdmiralBison Steam deck is cool, but it's huge. I'm not throwing that in my bag wherever I go. Besides, the switch is just a much nicer physical item to use in the real world than these portable pc console designs. Obviously it's nowhere near as powerful but if the game is essentially the same then I just don't care personally. It's all preference, though.
@mrrixel28
@mrrixel28 2 жыл бұрын
When will se have console version i can’t w8 to play my first monster hunter game
@Quake2815
@Quake2815 2 жыл бұрын
sucks i can't transfer my save.
@absurdh3ro
@absurdh3ro Жыл бұрын
This game on OLED is a masterpiece
@leviharris6944
@leviharris6944 2 жыл бұрын
I had to double check I'm using the latest update, but I don't have 60hz background enemies, they're refreshing at 30FPS even with maxed settings. What would cause that?
@sEaNoYeAh
@sEaNoYeAh 2 жыл бұрын
More than anything this makes me even more impressed with the Switch, and now more inclined to get that version for the option of handheld play and some local multiplayer sessions.
@harry23612
@harry23612 Жыл бұрын
a whole whopping 15 frames per second 😍(the human eye cant see more than 4fps anyway fkn pc dogs!!!)
@spacetaco048
@spacetaco048 2 жыл бұрын
Wait... so you are meaning to tell me... that this game already has foot clipping issues............ and yet they STILL say "we can't add lagiacrus for clipping and terrain issues"????????
@thebutcher1412
@thebutcher1412 Жыл бұрын
I mean on switch with an m classic it cleans up the graphics so well that I don’t even care for the graphical improvements that it gets on pc or next gen consoles.
@Kiwiiizzz
@Kiwiiizzz 2 жыл бұрын
Now if we can get this on the ps5
@kapt980
@kapt980 2 жыл бұрын
Am I the only one having baaaad stutters for (apparently) no reason at 144fps max settings ? Game going from smooth 144 to 80/60 for a second then pushing back up. Playing on a 2070 Super at 1440p max settings (gpu idolization 65%/cpu 50%)
@F34RDSoldier805
@F34RDSoldier805 2 жыл бұрын
Been playing it on Steam and it's a great game. Playing at 120 fps at 1440p is so good.
@dnegel9546
@dnegel9546 2 жыл бұрын
How are you getting 120fps? Digital foundry only managed 60
@TerraWare
@TerraWare 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnegel9546 It depends on the hardware you have. I get around a 190 fps average at 1440p with Image Quality set to 150% but the game doesn't fully utilize my gpu. Still plenty of performance for a smooth experience. You can remove the framerate cap and set it to unlimited in the settings.
@orkunkaansimsek
@orkunkaansimsek 2 жыл бұрын
@@dnegel9546 with an 3070 I get more than 120 fps at 2k 16:10 and %150 image quality. The game is not that demanding
@tacticalevil
@tacticalevil 2 жыл бұрын
I've been having a huge issue with stuttering. Have you come across anything similar? It's so bad it's unplayable
@Mizgala28
@Mizgala28 2 жыл бұрын
@@tacticalevil what hardware do you have? 3700x + 2070S and zero issues here. However I never had issues with World and Iceborne either, and I remember some people did have them.
@darthwiizius
@darthwiizius 2 жыл бұрын
In fairness you have to give props to Capcom for the Switch version's optimising because the game looks better than we all thought it could on that system.
@RolandDrummer77
@RolandDrummer77 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this
@EddieInChina
@EddieInChina 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much nothing else but the ridiculous price.
@tigerex777
@tigerex777 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing a PC to a Switch is like comparing a Ferrari to a tricycle.
@SvensPron
@SvensPron 2 жыл бұрын
Would have loved to see a look at performance numbers beyond 60 fps in this video. Especially since even consoles regularly push to 120 nowadays and in my experience the demo ran a bit worse than expected for a switch conversion.
@SuperMacro64
@SuperMacro64 2 жыл бұрын
Asides from framerate and native rendering resolution there's virtually barely ANY difference. It's pretty hard to notice the foilage swaying, seems like a lazy port when considering it's console brethrens drawbacks.
@jamesthenakedsnake7480
@jamesthenakedsnake7480 2 жыл бұрын
I must admit however fairly or unfairly I feel slightly dissapointed by the limited improvements from switch version, I was expecting just a little bit more than this.
@hazmifly
@hazmifly 2 жыл бұрын
Finally owner of RTX Titan can play at max setting on 4K.
@Miha-ii3dy
@Miha-ii3dy 2 жыл бұрын
This video impressed me with the Switch version, actually.
@guspaz
@guspaz 2 жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure 150% render quality is actually native display resolution and not doing any supersampling whatsoever.
@JMartinni
@JMartinni 2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean? The Display resolution ("Render settings") and render scale ("Image quality") are separate settings. The default of 150% of the selected display resolution being rendered and then downsampled to the display resolution is exactly what supersampling is. 150% of "native" cannot be equal to native...
@guspaz
@guspaz 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t ask me, ask Capcom why they decided to define 150% as full native resolution. If you disable TAA/FXAA with it set to 150%, the hard stair stepping shows you that’s there’s definitely no supersampling going on. The game also won’t let you run above the monitor’s native resolution with DSR, and if you attempt to trick it using borderless windowed and changing the desktop resolution after it launches, it just renders internally at monitor res and upscale to the window size. The game frustratingly tries hard to stop you from getting decent antialiasing.
@hanzo90
@hanzo90 2 жыл бұрын
Would've been nice if you tested it on a mid range card because who tf has s Titan???
@19deltascout43
@19deltascout43 Жыл бұрын
Nothing compares to pc gaming
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