MSI 2024 MEGA PREVIEW (ft Damonte, Memento, RandomMinionCaster, & Yamato)

MSI 2024 MEGA PREVIEW (ft Damonte, Memento, RandomMinionCaster, & Yamato) - Summoning Insight S7E17

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MonteCristo and Thorin are joined by YamatoCannon, Damonte, Memento, and RandomMinionCaster to preview MSI 2024, discuss the goals of FlyQuest at this event, ponder the role that lane swaps will have, roast Doublelift, and more!
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0:00:00 - Damonte
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@doloran- 3 ай бұрын

Damonte did the CAUGHT emote when Monte brought up the strategic coach opening, I love it 😂

@theraybeam7581 3 ай бұрын

Random minion caster was a great guest, never heard from him before. I love when they get these wholesome types on it’s so funny seeing them interact with monte and Thorin.

@GroundationOnly 2 ай бұрын

Nah man, he hyped loud so much and then they lost Vs the match fixing random team of gam... Such a bad showing from that region.

@MarcelloVT 3 ай бұрын

So great to see Damonte as a guest and that he’s doing so well! He was one of my favorite players while he was in LCS

@Roffet 3 ай бұрын

insane thorin performance this episode

@Runningitsendingit 2 ай бұрын

Absolutely, his macro and sense for the guests and how to position jokes as well as closing out was insane. Just needs to work on a wider guest pool for the 10 hour episode and then he can contend with the eastern content creators. Gg WP looking forward to seeing him at worlds and representing Europe after boot camping in Korea

@flame-fl3yy 3 ай бұрын

All fantastic guests! Especially Damonte, it was fun to see him again.

@JoshuaPark505 3 ай бұрын

I wish Damonte had been able to keep playing. He was a positive and fun person to watch play

@rockdalianninja1056 3 ай бұрын

Tanner looks so different

@IncomprehensibleFool 3 ай бұрын

Memento is a good interviewee

@carlosperez6572 3 ай бұрын

And interviewer😂 He had alot of good concersation-starters

@rhys555 3 ай бұрын

Awesome guest lineup. I hope RMC gets a shot at a Worlds Play-In or the potential Americas League someday.

@thealmightychuck2038 3 ай бұрын

Monte going to ground his children if they aren't winning LCK by age 10.

@Zwijger 3 ай бұрын

Truly an Asian parent.

@carlosperez6572 3 ай бұрын

Piano lessons just to get the kids apm up

@AHamp123 3 ай бұрын

Great content as always boys. Excited for MSI

@LoLkaitun 3 ай бұрын

What I've not heard much about is touch of the void assisting with lane swaps. I know the timer was nurfed to 6m but back at 5 minutes 1stack gave the true damage to towers allowing the excel of tower pushing. I love lane swaps but riot will remove it as said in a previous episode... they want it to reflect solo queue. Love the content as always. Can't wait to see more.

@Acquil 3 ай бұрын

Really enjoyed the guests this MSI preview. 10/10

@Dardobul 3 ай бұрын

@52:00 - talking about oding second wave crash vs third wave crash now demolish is a factor in laneswap - I'd imagine the biggest thing that decides this is the reason for laneswap. historically, laneswap was all about getting tower kills and denying xp from opposing team. some of the new laneswaps seem to be more focused on protecting the botlane from a kill lane, and the towers/xp lead are secondary. If you are laneswapping for this reason, I'd argue it completely depends on what protects your lane best - if the opposing botlane goes for a 2 wave crash >> reset, you wanna go 2 wave crash >> reset to deny the wave to enemy bot and get back to the other side of map. If they try to lane it out, then maybe 3 wave crash is better? but I certainly think first Q to answer is "why are we laneswapping?" before u can decide whats best.

@Dardobul 3 ай бұрын

Something i'm interested to see too - with the larger number of supps taking tp, especially with senna but also with a few other adc situations, could we see the team that wants 2v2 having their supp take tp to enable getting the crash botside, then being able to tp top and save the toplaner from a dive?

@JPLX99 3 ай бұрын

I love it the thorin take if monte has 3 more kids he has a whole league time XD also really happy to see all the people you guys included in this episode really gets me hyped to watch MSI even at 4am XD

@Verlisify 3 ай бұрын

The thing about Keria is that he warped the game so hard that the support items had to be nerfed multiple times to weaken his strats

@BN-zy6gn 3 ай бұрын

2:33:41 I’m dying XD

@TheUCruz 3 ай бұрын

where the HELL did that come from lmaooo

@Jack-ql2xl 3 ай бұрын

Idk how I feel about Monte looking into my soul while talking about lane swaps but I'll deal with it.... lol

@beatsbydr.draven1932 3 ай бұрын

Random minion caster was a fantastic guest, thanks for having him on

@monado550 3 ай бұрын

Te fucking 4 hours we deserved man

@CarlosCarlangas 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for bringing damonte around.

@johnnycamine 3 ай бұрын

Damonte is a great guest i would enjoy to see him on your show any time!

@jindorisoul2923 3 ай бұрын

4 hour banger FOR FREE??

@haydenheroux 3 ай бұрын

Alphari Selfmade Jiizuke Neon Trymbi sounds like a Vitality roster

@decimo3609 3 ай бұрын

New Schalke 😂

@PixelKatana 3 ай бұрын

The biblical Noah reference was fire.

@Cheezperson 3 ай бұрын

WOOOOOOOOOO

@BearusAurelius 3 ай бұрын

On the topic of Kiin and Quinn, Kiin just shows how powerful Quinn can be in the hands of someone with great macro knowledge of the game. Quinn is genuinely one of the best macro champs in the game with her ultimate. Quinn's R allows her to push waves, take Ignite for kill pressure and still be the first to show up to any fight or objective. In the hands of a good team she is incredibly useful. Her teamfighting isn't even that bad if you can sneak behind enemy lines to access priority target or land blinds and vaults to disrupt frontline enemy movement/abilities.

@jakuzzzi 3 ай бұрын

LETSFUCKING GO

@SirKobrias 3 ай бұрын

TANNER TIME

@isaacEluggage12345 3 ай бұрын

Its Tanner Time

@szabel. 3 ай бұрын

lmao 2:24:25 "don't talk about laneswaps!" and Yamato is then the guest and the next video youtube recommended below is an hour long Yamato laneswap guide 😂

@iGoatYouTTV 3 ай бұрын

Let’s Goat as the best lee sin low Elo na I approve this upload and the addition of RMC

@DurzoHighwind 3 ай бұрын

3:38:00 Jiizuke getting some deserved love

@damiester1 3 ай бұрын

Is Thorin just the biggest open closet anime nerd in this channel lol? Love the random analogies.

@Zwijger 3 ай бұрын

That take was really not always true about MSI though (0:20), since for many years the next 3 regions (EU, NA, Taiwan) actually had genuine impact on the outcome of the tournament, or delivered a high quality series even if it was a loss. It's mostly been since the year without an MSI that EU has fallen of, while both LCK and LPL are now just perma good, where before there was the slow rise of LPL and the dip from LCK meaning at least one of the two was genuinely beatable at internationals.

@BearusAurelius 3 ай бұрын

I know Monty has brought this up before but, why are teams not putting their ADC/Sup duo in midlane? Wouldn't this give you so much more control over the map and the early objectives? I'm probably missing something but it seems like it would also be a safer lane to play to dodge jungle ganks.

@ISprayTrolls 3 ай бұрын

As of last season Top lane minions give the most xp/minute. From seasons past they made bot lane tower have 0 defenses at the start of the game. Meaning that the team that has the strongest push power (2 players usually) will destroy the bot tower first.

@ParallelZuVega 3 ай бұрын

In a full lane swap your ADC / Sup duo is immune to ganks anyway since enemy top will be 2 lvls down by the time jungle could gank and you ward / invade ahead of time to prevent cheeses. Also mid lane tower is the easiest to defend since everyone can get there quickly and you can’t stack as many waves to push. In order to gain a significant amount of gold and experience you have to be in a sidelane and slow push repeatedly.

@BearusAurelius 3 ай бұрын

@@ISprayTrolls Oh I had no idea top lane minions gave more XP! Pretty wild.

@BearusAurelius 3 ай бұрын

@@ParallelZuVega Yeah I guess that is just more valuable than having easy access to the Grubs/Rift and Dragons. It would be interesting though to see heavy push lanes in mid and how enemy teams countered that.

@jameswright21 3 ай бұрын

Champions in mid often have great access to ranged waveclear, and it's quite easy for the jungler and support to both get to the lane in time to stop any dives. On top of this, it can be very hard to get behind the mid turret for a dive, and even when you do you end up in the other turrets range very quickly. If there were to be any strange assignments in the future would imagine top heavy rosters might be looking at swapping their mid and top in the swap, and having a mage that can clear waves quickly in the sidelane, or very low economy utility mages (Lissadra anyone?).

@mw2nubcake 3 ай бұрын

4 hours hply shit alrighty ill try. Whos in with me brave foot soldiers?

@Slippard101 3 ай бұрын

To add a bit of anecdotal experience to Mementos first question. My experience has been a 2 wave crash with demolish followed by another 2 wave crash with a second demolish proc does net more gold than a 3 wave crash. But allows for more counterplay from the team getting swapped on so you may say that the tradeoff of doing so is safety. A 3rd wave crash with a strong side invade as described or even a level 3 jg that can cover the crash is much harder for the enemy team to play around unless their intent is to just handshake the crossmap. But again, this is anecdotal from a bunch of games played in a very amateur competitve scene / practice tool and not remotely close to to a real-world pro game from top tier players

@elephantisland695 3 ай бұрын

Take a shot everytime Thorin brings up Doublelift

@kiwi5265 3 ай бұрын

3:55:00 T1 fans Pretending Faker is the Best is Stupid yes. But this always sounds like Faker is just a passanger on his last titels. THE DUDE IS STILL a TOP 3-5 MIDLANER IN THE FUCKIGN WORLD 11 years after he started playing comp. Yes hes not the best but still top 3-5 which is bonkers. And that still counts to his GOAT Status imo

@GroundationOnly 2 ай бұрын

Top 10 yes. Top 5 no

@kiwi5265 2 ай бұрын

@@GroundationOnly then Pls Name me 10 :)

@GroundationOnly 2 ай бұрын

@@kiwi5265 Name your top 5 Ranking then we speak. Have to see how delulu you are first

@kiwi5265 2 ай бұрын

@@GroundationOnly idk wwhy u need to call me delulu. But Imo. Knight Chovy Scout are for surebetter if we look at the last 3-4 years. people like Yagao BDD Caps Xiahu are the people in the convo of beeing better then him, but arent on my list

@kiwi5265 2 ай бұрын

@@GroundationOnly forgot Rookie + Showmaker

@broefkip 3 ай бұрын

Question for academical purposes. If I were to make an I am esports shirt, should it say "I am esports" with Thorins head on it. Or should it say "He is esports" with Thorins head on it?

@stevenkim6812 3 ай бұрын

As someone who is a devout Christian, i find it hilarious whenever Thorin equates himself to Jesus - he is always so accurate with the biblical stories he uses lol

@THEkullerpuller 3 ай бұрын

1:12:30 maaaaybe G2 needs a second player who is actually world class and has proven to be as good as or better than his Asian peers. Maybe even in a complementary role to midlane to contest all of those ganks coming their way. Maybe a player who has been in Europe for a couple of years now and has pretty good English. Maybe that players style could be very scirmish heavy and based on mechanical outplays around lanes with prio. Maybe someone who can be directed by Caps' and Mikyx's experience in the late game and integrated by and actual world-class coaching staff.. Maybe he could even have a cool two letter name for the fans to chant when he solo kills canyon on Lee Sin or something.

@ParallelZuVega 3 ай бұрын

I think that ship has sailed when they picked up Yike. I too wish Bo had been paired up with good players in EU, but now it seems like his best bet is SK or switch regions. GMs fumbling the best talent as per usual…

@nc_aravindan 3 ай бұрын

Im not from EU so i was neutral towards KC. But FUCK KC after what they did to Bo.

@THEkullerpuller 3 ай бұрын

@@ParallelZuVega true, they are ruining this region. No one outside of G2 knows how to build a team and infrastructure around it. Then when pressed they complain about their budget like Dardo did when Thorin interviewed him as if there wasn't a ton of potential in EU to build decent to good teams on the cheap with. Schalke did it for years, Misfits did it, SK to some extend, even Rogue was great at it before they decided that they'd rather be great at building terrible rosters instead of good ones. Like literally every GM in EU aside from Romain is a paycheck stealer in the most literal sense. The best part is when they keep kicking players and coaches because they 'didn't work with their team' or whatever but never look at who's making those decisions in the first place.

@THEkullerpuller 3 ай бұрын

@@nc_aravindan yep, I hope that he gets to go to a decent team at some point to shut all those guys up who are calling him overrated. The guy was by far the best part of KC, closely followed by Yamato and Upset. He was trying so hard in coms only for Targamas, Saken and Cabo to try and intentionally loose them the game. I'm saying intentionally because if what they did was unintentional I can only assume that they must have some sort of impairment.

@scobbydump1255 3 ай бұрын

Damonte intangibles > Bjergsen intangibles

@FortheWolf 3 ай бұрын

You obviously didn’t watch Bjerg carry TSM for YEARS regardless of roster.

@scobbydump1255 3 ай бұрын

@@FortheWolf You obviously don´t know the meaning of the word intangibles

@FortheWolf 3 ай бұрын

@@scobbydump1255and how would you judge intangibles when Damonte played for 2 years or so on average ass teams vs a decade of play at the highest level in NA? You have no insight into the matter.

@scobbydump1255 3 ай бұрын

@@FortheWolf Nice you googled the meaning, good job

@idoshulman6379 3 ай бұрын

Memento is so sane compared to Thorin it's crazy. He has really good and fun analysis too

@archique9701 3 ай бұрын

This vid made me a fan lol. When thorin went on that random Noah rip (bc Noah told him to shut up XD ) and memento just goes why are we on hate train? Seems to actually want to focus on the analysis, would be interested in seeing more from him on a dif show geared more towards the analytical side than entertainment

@tyrionlennister3410 2 ай бұрын

3:54:50 What does GOAT mean? if you say it slowly you notice the point is invalid

@danielbuckley7686 3 ай бұрын

Thorin spontaneously gets more guests in to not talk about lane swaps, only for them to talk about lane swaps haha. I'm really excited to see if a lane swap meta evolves. I hope it does. It would be a shame if after all this hype, teams don't commit to it.

@Cashmoneez 3 ай бұрын

Really like the mentality Flyquest has going into MSI. Lets be honest a western team placing at a DOUBLE ELIM tourney is so unlikely that you might as well do your best to improve for worlds

@SenecaFTW 3 ай бұрын

2:48:48 - 2:53:10 It's too late to apologize

@HeLLraiSa911 3 ай бұрын

👍

@pandour 3 ай бұрын

Appreciate the content. Sadly the timing of it was too close to MSI debut, didin't manage (yet?) to finish the episode. I'm at 25%.

@stardust7534 2 ай бұрын

2:33:41 lol...

@Seven-xl5zw 3 ай бұрын

Can't they just pick ziggs mid or bot lane and take turrets even faster ?

@ParallelZuVega 3 ай бұрын

Yes but then you’re stuck with Ziggs and enemy has a free farming ADC - getting towers is all fine and good but in this iteration of the game you need to scale into a position where you win fights to be able to end the game.

@killuafan4365 3 ай бұрын

Ziggs main problem is the same with Xerath. The damage they deal scales with your mastery of the champion, you can deal 10x or 1/16 the damage of a normal adc based on spells you hit. Ziggs is a not play making spellcaster like Azir and or Orianna hence why most people don't practice him since there isn't much to learn. However, they are very hard to pilot without mastery, Not necessarily the hardest mechanically but you do need to be familiar with their combos and timing to not miss everything. Most pro players don't practice these champions, that's why they wont perform well with ziggs, this is doubly true on Adcs. Think about jungle zed, the reason why jungle zed wasn't broken in proplay but strong in solo queue is because most junglers don't have the backlog of zed gameplay the same way midlaners have. Most players don't care enough about ziggs.

@Seven-xl5zw 3 ай бұрын

@@killuafan4365 but i mean APA does play ziggs alot so maybe ziggs mid in lane swaps for TL can be a thing .

@MangoMeoww 3 ай бұрын

Is Yamato a big fan of Gordon Ramsay?

@iRiDiKi 3 ай бұрын

Riot will remove interesting strategies, as they always do. Don't have your hopes up, Monte.

@seamonster175 3 ай бұрын

'In order for top to have a chance, Creme has to have a zeka-esque tournament... but its his first international and he has to go through chovy, knight, and faker!' *looks at worlds 2022* Wait zeka literally did that PLUS Scout 😂

@spurscoys7385 3 ай бұрын

Yh lol

@Pigraider268 3 ай бұрын

Haha sex reference Wow I wasn't expecting that ngl

@sollipolli3705 3 ай бұрын

Ótrúlegt myndband

@PlastikGUbilationz 3 ай бұрын

algo

@TheKillaChino 3 ай бұрын

Hey Monte/Thorin! What are your thoughts regarding Riot Vanguard and the new kernel-level anti cheat software? Trying to do my own research, but there's arguments on both sides like the potential security risks, but at the same time kernel-level anti cheat isnt new to gaming. IS THE CCP LOOKING AT ME UNDRESS?? HALP

@johnbeatty6062 3 ай бұрын

Has anyone considered charging the streamers for costreaming rights, a base charge per average viewer count per hour (ie £1.00/100 viewers) as an example if the costreamers had an avg of 10000 viewers per hour that would mean Riot could charge them £10.00 for that hour, if they streamed 5 hours that day of NA LCS it's £50.00 with an avg of £400/month. Which could go towards a salary of a caster. DISCLAIMER: These are purely hypothetical numbers I pulled out of my arse. Someone would have to figure if these numbers are viable for the streamers to pay out on a per hour basis, although I'm sure it would. (Sorry IWD and Caedrel for throwing you under the bus, but I do feel as though it would disincentivise people from costreaming and maybe they would consider going into casting.) 🤷

@nc_aravindan 3 ай бұрын

Here for Jennifer Connelly

@samsharpe787 2 ай бұрын

My question is, is this 2024 gen g. The best top side of all time with kiin, canyon and chovy? Gut is pound for pound i think it is. I think 2020 damwon is the obvious contender along with 2018 IG. But chovy is better than showmaker, and canyon is way better than ning.

@potheadesens8725 2 ай бұрын

2020 canyon was better than 2024 canyon tho

@antosqa7343 3 ай бұрын

So BLG strategy to beat T1 is become a better T1 lmao

@tommyhe4 3 ай бұрын

The fact that Memento didn’t count the NIP FPX series as a “proper” lane swap and not giving them credit at all is so crazy and disrespectful to me. I mean Monte summed it up pretty well in his opening remark. G2 is definitely the torchbearer of the lane swap meta but NIP inspired everyone to do it. Give credit where credit is due.

@Cashmoneez 3 ай бұрын

yah idk what he's even saying NIP clearly did it intentionally and it was absolutely a bold strategy to do. They did it as a game 4 switch up to catch inexperienced FPX off guard. It's true that NIP swapped back relatively early but they absolutely did a "proper" lane swap in every way.

@tommyhe4 3 ай бұрын

@@Cashmoneez It's so wierd to me because his reason for the NIP game not being a "proper" lane swap was because Photic and Zhuo didn't book straight top when the game started and also hid in the brush. Which is so monday morning quarterbacking imo. No team in the entire world had been lane swapping for half a decade, they were hiding in the brush to try and catch the enemy Renekton off guard for a quick first blood (which did end up happening). This game literally put lane swapping back into the map as teams in the three major regions started adapting it within a week's time. Now we can for sure say G2 is the team that played the most lane swaps since, how much of that is because the LEC playoffs is a complete cakewalk for them.

@will5110 3 ай бұрын

Something that always bothers me about Fnatic and Humanoid discussions is the whole "Humanoid is bored and Europe but becomes world-class against better players." I'm not saying it isn't true, but I feel like he should get a lot more criticism for it. This guy isn't Caps, he isn't winning every LEC title. How can he be "bored" playing against "lesser players" and simultaneously just lose all the time?

@JacobSBierman 3 ай бұрын

The problem with Chovy will always be (until proven otherwise) that he hasn’t won an international title. Not once. Can’t call him the goat when he never shows up internationally

@Tfg20Minecraft 3 ай бұрын

Dang couldn't go 15 mins without doublelift hate

@novaxfrost 3 ай бұрын

8 Seconds ago lets go!

@BlackDeathBlade 3 ай бұрын

Why is Monte still hard blaming Kanavi for JDG's underperformance against T1 again? Let's pretend that 369 didn't look incredibly shaky and Knight was outshown by Faker yet his overall lack of presence is just a blip on the bigger picture. But nope Kanavi's major mistakes in game 4 were the main highlight of JDG's loss. Also, let's also pretend that JDG was so good in team fights that they could always win them no matter the gold deficit but ignore that T1 was one of the few teams that could pull the same thing to them.

@MrDespisedIcon 3 ай бұрын

Cause they hate T1 and will do anything possible to discredit their win. They fail to realize the only reason JDG was even in any of those games was cause of Ruler and Kanavi, Knight was invisible the whole series and 369 only looked good on Ksante in 1 game.

@MrDespisedIcon 3 ай бұрын

The funniest part about this is even Chinese reactions to this series was all saying the Chinese players in this series were bigger frauds than the Korean’s, they faulted 369, Knight and Missing way more for JDG losing this series than Kanavi or Ruler.

@CarlosCarlangas 3 ай бұрын

@@MrDespisedIconthat's because the Chinese never trusted the Koreans. They knew the Koreans shit the bed against Koreans.

@CarlosCarlangas 3 ай бұрын

Because if kanavi was on form there's no way t1 wins that best of hence you can blame kanavi for the loss.

@MrDespisedIcon 3 ай бұрын

@@CarlosCarlangas Kanavi on form almost lost to T1 at MSI.. I can use the same argument and say T1 lost at MSI cause Oner and Faker weren’t on form. T1 was the better team overall regardless, almost beat JDG at MSI and destroyed JDG at worlds. If anything beating them at worlds is even more impressive given how much pressure was on T1 that tournament being the last LCK seed and the only chance to stop the golden road.

@jackthomas3483 3 ай бұрын

42 minutes of Damonte and Thoorin and Monte like the sound of their own voice, nice!

@Shrek_Holmes 3 ай бұрын

Bwipo was absolute trash on flyquest in playoffs. we need to stop saying he is good, he isn't he is a huge coinflipper that loses lane most of the time.

@eddiejohnston5025 3 ай бұрын

Everyone just going to ignore Monte's blurry ass camera? Like, his camera couldn't decide where to focus every time he moved. Is he using some whacky filter? Wtf is going on here, because it burned my retinas. Great episode, though. Thanks for the FREE awesome interviews!

@theraybeam7581 3 ай бұрын

it’s a filter, prob cause he’s in a new place and can’t control the background.

@MrDespisedIcon 3 ай бұрын

Faker slander throughout the episode is pathetic, there are better ways to try and farm engagement or strive for relevancy.

@BlackDeathBlade 3 ай бұрын

What I don't understand is their obsession with players "better" than Faker individually. I'm also pretty sure that T1 as a team cares more about the teamwork and coordination than the need to be the best players in every position. Bang and Wolf gets slammed on in modern times, but they were the bot lane that held it down for SKT during their dynasty. What's the point in being a much better player individually if your teams can't keep up with what you're doing?

@spurscoys7385 3 ай бұрын

@@BlackDeathBlade that's not their point tho. They are basically taking digs at t1 fans who pretend faker is the best player itw

@spurscoys7385 3 ай бұрын

@@BlackDeathBlade and the bang and wolf point makes 0 sense. Not 1 player from back then would be competitive now. The game has evolved. Not even peak faker

@BlackDeathBlade 3 ай бұрын

@@spurscoys7385 The bang and wolf point is that you don't need the best players in their positions to be relevant in a team game and DESPITE that SKT was still the best team in their era. Uzi was considered better than Bang. Pray and Gorilla were a more famous bot lane than Bang and Wolf in their eras. Deft and Mata was in a KT super team but lost to a team with Huni. Also, you miss my point regarding Faker. Why glaze the shit out of players saying they're better than faker like Chovy and Rookie specifically if their teams aren't as successful anyway? Who cares if they're the better players. If their teams aren't as succesful, then being better than Faker individually means jack shit.

@spurscoys7385 3 ай бұрын

@@BlackDeathBlade once again its towards delusional t1 fans telling them faker isn't the best itw anymore

@thelight3270 3 ай бұрын

Tencent show back at it again with more BS

@Kify252 3 ай бұрын

You will age out of whatever this is........

@CarlosCarlangas 3 ай бұрын

Once you start watching the lpl you'll understand why people believe in em

@killuafan4365 3 ай бұрын

Tencent show? This was the first show to call out the RNG 35 ping issue. They are the most Anti-Tencent show there is out there. They are so Anti-riot/Tencent that they call everything they do that isn't logistically sound.