I mean even if those senators knew they wouldn't be alive to see it, neither would most of their children.

Funny enough it was this very lack of awareness by these senators that led to the rise of men like Cesar. If the people had jobs and slaves were not replacing them, this would never have gave popularity to Cesar in the first place

Wasn’t Caesar stabbed to death.

@TheRock2004 And how did that turn out? His killers ended up on the hit lists by his grand nephew, who would become the first emperor of the Roman Empire.

@@3baxcb but how did that help Caesar?

Nope

@@NichtNameee maybe if you'd read.... anything

@@sydlawson3181 Explain

@@NichtNameee gracchus wanted to give land to roman veterans, and said that up there. Today, the american veterans get nothibg, and usually end up homeless and as drug addicts, only gratitude for what they sacrificed is a discount and people saying “Wow thats cool man”

I'm french-canadian and even I understood what you meant. Powerful parallel.

In history he was a piece of crap

@@justincredible7649 I think you may be speaking of the emperor Tiberius

Tiberius wasn't a senator....

If he were a populist hero, then he wouldn’t have ignored the actual cause of the land crisis: slavery. Instead, he just gave free land to poor people, without even teaching them how to farm. Unsurprisingly, his law did nothing to help the land crisis.

@@kevin6293 dude he tried to take the land away from the senators. Because there was a law against it that hadn't been Inforced for a long time. No man was supposed to have that much land. So the senators had way to much land or they just put it in another person's name for them. Even if they didn't know how to farm, was it better to just give it to the senators? So they had more slaves, less soldiers, and even more poor people in Rome?

They died for a cause bigger than themselves.

​@@ZenosMind They we're legends who fought for the poor, and are two of my heroes!

Or Yoda.

Unfortunately true! Tiberius and Gaius are two of my heroes! They both fought for the common and poor citizens, like Gaius Flaminius another hero of mine, before them!!

Imperator was never a regal title until Diocletian made it so, until then it was equivalent of "commander"

@@choysakanto6792 I've read that Emperor Vespasian was the one who let the title Imperator be the calling card for Emperors going forward. Diocletian just stopped pretending the "First Citizen" post was anything but monarchy. He wore crowns, wore purple, and gave the senate the middle finger.

Yeah turns out if you have everyone who disliked you killed in proscriptions, and replace them with people enfranchised by the person who your heir to, the political environment becomes far more welcoming.

@@vincegalila7211 And that's sad. They betrayed Republican traditions and straight up installed a King. Augustus was one the best things to happen to Rome but it was sad how the Republicans in the senate just bow down to monarchy regardless of their party alliance with Augustus

@@JustinCage56 eh more like a lifelong dictatorship at the end of the day

Peter Hortensius / looks funny to me

Hilarious the senator sounded, but why, I do not know.

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Dunja gang.

Donald Trump

Yeah that line always made me laugh for some reason.

Old man has chicken neck to

@@vexjaeger4314 The actor in question was dying of cancer at the time of filming. He barely had the strength to pull his toga over his head..

wozzlepop oh... hell now I feel like an asshole

@@pbh9195 it's a mourning cry for the death of the Republic

+Fearosius Everytime someone tries to compare the Roman Republic or Empire to modern society, a Roman historian cries. Seriously, you're comparing apples to martians.

Shutup his mum looks like a Gaul anyway

+SlyDessertFox I am sure if Polybius was here today, he would see places like Wall Mart and Citibank as the modern 'Latifunda' as they stood on the Italian Peninsula in the 2nd Century BC as he did. Infact, there is not much different between the 'latifunda' and 'Wallmart', you just replace 'bondage to chains' to 'bondage to money', AKA, wage-slavery. Other comparisons including an increasing gap between middle and upper classes (plebeian & patricians), consolidation of political power in particular gens/families (very prominent in 2nd century BC Roman politics) and perpetual, illegal and pre-emptive war (Rome managed to expand, nearly 4x its size from 200BC - 100BC, The Macedonian Wars, The Illyrian Wars, The Final Punic War, The Numidian Wars, The Lusitania Wars, The Celtiberian Wars), compare that to the amount of Wars that the USA has been involved in in the last 100 years. Call me a fool and mock my analogies but history is always bound to repeat itself.

Fearosius I mean, sure, but again, the two societies are incomparable. You can make some vague overgeneralizations (and I'm on the socialist side of the political spectrum so its not like I necessarily disagree with you), but the political situation in Rome in the 2nd and 1st centuries BC was completely unique to the Roman government system, which isn't actually much like ours at all.

History never repeats itself, it just rhymes.

Not entirely true! A hundred or so of his followers died alongside him. And he even had support from the Princeps Senatus, Appius Claudius Pulcher. Also Tiberius didn't want any innocent Roman citizens dying.

And when Sulla was absent, marched on Rome to proscribe his political enemies.

I wonder if Biden will learn this lesson.

@@NedJeffery comparing Marius to Biden is a very stupid thing to say...

Well to be fair both are pretty senile.

@@nothisispatrick4644 and vicious.

Most certainly!! 💯 He, and his brother Gaius both fought and died for the poor and the Republic!! 🤍

And Cornelia was the daughter of Aemilia! (The sister of Lucius Aemilius Paulus Macedonicus!)

not at all.

social reform and aid through government programs vs traditionalism and support of the wealthy and low regulations on their business. I don't see any similarities at all.

RTWPimpmachine so you mean to say they were... politicians

Except the difference is Tiberius and Gaius didn't betray the Republic nor murder fellow Romans, like the other three did!!

I know this is seven years late, but no. Ultimately, Caesar's mistake was trusting the very men he spurned during his Consulship. I'm not justifying his assassination one bit, but he put too much trust in the Senator's of Rome and they paid him with a literal backstabbing for doing so. He could have been dictator for life had he not trusted his murderers.

Cesar did do some clearly wrong and illegal things, including his election campaign with armed mobs assaulting voters for his rivals. The worst probably stealing from the treasury 3,000 talents and replacing them with bronze fakes.

@@SefniAsheforr I am not saying what Cesar did was good or bad, but that the whole system in Rome was setup to create these indirect issues. - It is actually because of Roman Empire modern day laws have none retroactively aspects for example. It comes directly from the issues learned during the Roman Empires mistakes.

@@MrRedcarpet02 by that point Roman Law had degraded into the Roman Suggestion. And that degradation began in 133 BC with the rise and fall of Tiberius Gracchus.

@@Kaiserboo1871 and Ceaser degraded it even more, but expected others to obey him and Roman law after becoming dictator.

He tried to enact several reforms

those weren't sticks they were the legs of furniture, and they had no mercy for Tiberius

carrying arms within the pomerium was a big offense

Roberto Rubio the same question as I have

ChiP Publius Cornelius Scipio Nasica Serapio

It's part of a bbc roman series if you type bbc Roman series on google you should be able to find it they cover ceaser nero and constantine aswell.

Akatsuki HQ / 2 months late but thank you

Hayden Charter The same question as I have

Rome. or the comedy Plebs.

the series ROME, Pompeii/Cato/Brutus vs Caesar/Antony/Octavian. great casting and acting,

not a movie its just a short by bbc.

Marius and Caesar we're Traitorous Tyrannical scumbags!! The Gracchus brothers, we're doing what was right, fighting for the poor and common citizens WITHOUT killing any fellow Romans! The Gracchus brothers we're kind, selfless, honorable Romans! Even showing mercy to enemies of Rome in War!

That’s completely stupid grachus was definitely on the left more like a progressive Trump is much closer to the optimites or Sulla

That's bull 💩! Trump is the complete opposite, he and his far right loonies don't give a crap about the poor, the commoners, the mentally ill, and anyone else who isn't rich!

Tiberius Gracchus was an American soldier

It's a BBC production, broadcast in the UK. The actors were of course going to be British. Get over it.

The origin of the word fascism comes from the latin word fasces meaning "bundled axes". The fasces were carrier like banners by men at arms called lictors. Everywhere the Roman Consuls went. Night or day. Public or private. Consuls were entitled to 12 lictors. Dictators 24 ..

Tiberius Gracchus was a cop 👮‍♂️