not Apple thinking they’re higher than the FBI 💀

Imagine as a parent, you're child goes missing and the perpetrator is the one who cried with you as you held her. So evil.

This is a case that I’ve known about since it happened but every time I see that “we really did go on 3” tweet still sends shivers down my spine. Absolutely disgusting

Not only did they kill their best friend but they also abused her by forcing her to watch as they performed sexual acts on one another. They are absolutely disgusting excuses for people

the way skylars parents protected her legacy even in death, making a new law, suing for $5m, asking for 1st degreee charges goes to show just how much they loved her.

I saw a tweet that sheila posted that read, “‘why’ is my favorite question” , like how horrible of a person do u have to be to mock ur supposed “best friends” last words, what is wrong with her

It’s scary to know that they could of gotten away with it if they played it correctly no one would of ever suspected them.

Why did they not think to check Skylar’s diary in the beginning? Usually you can find so much information in diaries when it comes to true crime cases. It’s so unbelievably upsetting that they never thought to look in hers until much much later.

Knowing she just kept asking “Why” when being murdered by her closest friends has to be one of the most heart breaking things I’ve ever heard in my life…

I can’t tell if the guilt of murdering her friend is what ate away at Rachel, or if it was the fear of being caught that made her go into breakdown and caused her to confess

To think that Skylar went out to that forest that night with the sole goal of patching things up with her best friends only to be betrayed and viciously murdered is heartbreaking. While I understand the fear and paranoia surrounding being potentially outed, it’s absolutely no excuse to murder a beautiful girl in cold blood. She fought for her life and they didn’t hold back. They are monsters and should not be sympathized with. The absolute lack of remorse is sickening. They belong in prison. RIP Skylar you did not deserve that at all. You should be alive. Rest easy sweet angel. ❤ And to the Neese family, never stop fighting for change in honor of Skylar. She would be so proud of you. Hope you are finding peace and healing. 💕

the fact that they were both smiling in their mugshots just shows how little remorse they actually have

So they went from "we just hate Skylar" to "we'd rather be murderers than be outed to our parents". Throw away the keys to those cells, they should never be allowed to get out.

Just to add an update to this story, the Neeses have been working to make Skylar's Law a NATIONAL law and not just in West Virginia. They are truly an amazing couple and have been able to help so many more parents at their worst times.

I’ve heard of this crime so many times, but they all excluded the romantic angle. It definitely makes way more sense than “we just didn’t like her anymore”.

This case horrified me. Not only the fact that Skylar’s very own “best friends” killed her, but the fact that Sheila tried to cover it up and pretend like she really cared. I can’t even fathom how Sheila and Rachel went to sleep that night knowing what they did. And that tweet “we really did go on 3” shows absolutely no remorse. Truly terrifying.

what broke me really is when skylar kept saying "why" as the two girls stabbed her...it must've been so scary and so painful for skylar to be in this situation because of none other than her two best friends. sick, absolutely sick

Shelia is a true psychopath in that she was sitting with Skylar's room with her parents crying crocodile tears; Sky was their only daughter and she pretending to offer comfort to them when she knew where Skylar was and was had happened. Their sorrow gave her a sick thrill. Shelia liked running animals over for fun prior to the murder which is what a budding serial killer would do. Rachel was a follower and her conscience ate away at her to the point she had to be put in a psychiatric hospital.

Honestly, I like how Eleanor doesn't outright say the killers like how other true crime channels have, she talks about things EXACTLY how they came out and how it seemed

An Amber Alert wouldn’t have mattered in this case even if it had been issued. She was already brutally murdered before her parents even knew she was missing. I feel so bad for her and her family. Such a horrible situation.

those girls are truly horrible. "we really did go on 3" is such a terrible thing to tweet about MURDERING your FRIEND. and to cry and comfort skylar's parents, knowing that she's dead and that she murdered skylar is messed up to say the least. i feel so bad for skylar's poor parents.

Skyler was under 18, so the cellular contract for her phone would have been in her parents' name (since the law in the US doesn't permit minors to contact with cellular phone companies).So, technically, being that we're talking about a minor, iPhone should have been required, not only morally but legally, to give over the location. Unless perhaps the phone was already paid off or was bought somewhere other than through the service provider. Still, being a minor, the info should have been provided in an effort to locate this child IMO. This is not the only time that company has been guilty of not providing information that could have caught a killer.

The fact that the parents had to make a lawsuit against the families so that they wouldn't make money off of THE MURDER THAT THEIR DAUGHTER'S COMMITED shows how crazy it is that in this day and age people can make money off of .... Horrific things like this.May Skyler rest in peace and may her soul rest easy.

They were, in my opinion, sexually harassing her and she didn't out them. So why on earth did they think she'd retaliate their breaking up their friendship by outing them? Nothing in her life pointed to her doing that. Especially since they were already edging her out of their group. It's just so horrifying.

The fact this could’ve been possibly prevented by them just having a conversation with skyler is honestly sickening

Honestly, the way Eleanor just presents each case is so well done.

As a teenager girl about to go into Highschool, this is terrifying. I relate to Skylar a lot in her personality and her relationships. I have a few friends I’ve been kind of distant with and are going to the same Highschool as. The thought of them taking me out into the woods and stabbing me because I’ve been distant or because they didn’t like the way I’ve been acting terrifies me. If anyone invites me to go out very late without anyone knowing, this story is the reason I will say no.

Imagine being so psychopathic, envious, and egotistical, that murdering a supposed best friend, would be easier than being friends with them. Skylar was a beautiful, loving, and responsible individual. She had incredibly loving parents. Poor baby I hope her family is doing as well as they can these days. ♥️

As a lesbian, being outted as a teenager is a terrifying situation to go through. However, it is never a reason to murder. The most brave thing you can do is take it as it comes and stand up for yourself. Be kind, be understanding and forgiving once you've felt hurt.. and know there is nothing wrong with you. But never ever consider hurting another person because you have been hurt.

I just want to say it was also common knowledge that Shiela would kill defenceless animals with her car as some sort of sick game. She would run over rabbits and yell “20 points!” with Rachel, Skylar and another friend, Daniel, in the car, knocking Sky and Dan sick to their stomachs. A true, true psychopath. It wasn’t just a fear of being outed, at least not with Shelia, she was genuinely just twisted. Source: Pretty Little Killers, a factual book documenting all the ins and outs of this case.

As of May 9th this year (2023) Rachel Shoaf was denied parole 🎉

whenever i watch these videos, i find myself always rooting for the victim to pull through as i follow the story, even though i know its a murder case :(

the worst tweet shelia made was "my favourite question is why" like jfc...sickening

The last lawsuit was really smart, the parents will never see their daughter ever again, but at least they put these girls through as much trouble as they could legally. The parent’s lawyer did a really good job Edit: omg what the hell 6,9k likes. Can I consider myself popular now?😂

Theory: I believe it’s quite possible since Rachel is the rich kid, Sheila ended up taking most of the blame, and the story came out like it did. Sheila was the one who came up with this and decided it, she’s the one who planned it, Rachel was just along for the ride. Sheila was the one who delivered the killing blows ALONE and who went for Skyler’s nick, since Rachel by lucky coincidence (for her) had her knife wrestled out from her, despite being physically the biggest out of the three. I believe they’re both equally evil and vicious, but I don’t buy that poor Rachel was so passive during all of this, yet this same Rachel who suggested they should just distance from Skyler, stabbed her so viciously. I think she told her parents, who got her some excellent lawyers and came up with a good story to paint her in favorable light, and so that the other kid who’s middle class would take responsibility for most of it, and make Rachel out to be the “follower” impressionable party who’s not normally like this, since she’s so remorseful and so unsettled by what happened, crying and breaking down etc. Prior to her confession police and school both reported they were acting in the same manner, prior to her confession “family” reported she’s been so shaken, and I believe this is when she told them and they got her some good lawyers who advised her on how to behave to eventually look better to the jury, while Sheila was on the dark that a confession was on the works and continued to behave the same way and stuck to the story that both of them firmly stuck to before since they’re equally vicious people. One more thing that worked greatly to her advantage, is that she’s the one to go first to authorities, maybe she couldn’t tell a different story that’s similar but less bad, or downplay her part anymore then she already did, because there is no telling if Sheila would confess, since I think this whole Sheila unremorseful mastermind story isn’t completely accurate. We haven’t heard from her family or their story about how their daughter was like, we only heard from the privileged family’s perspective. I’m not defending Sheila, she’s horrible and evil, I’m pointing out that she wasn’t on this on her own. Edit: just finished the video, turns out Rachel took a plea deal (surprise surprise) despite literally having a motive a lot stronger than Sheila, she’s the one with a background against lgbtq. While both are teens, so it’s hard to come out, if your family is religious it can be scary, while if they’re not I don’t think the motive is nearly as strong. At the end it’s really a very common thing, when a crime is committed with one or more of the persons involved is rich, the less privileged party always ends up taking the fall. Sheila looked so bad because she had worse counsel

For clarity, one of the requirements for an amber alert is that there needs to be info on the suspected kidnapper and their vehicle, and there needs to be reasonable suspicion that the victim is in danger. It SUCKS that without an AA, info isn’t shared as widely when a kid goes missing. 😔

Hi, my friend and her baby were murdered in October 2020. It was initially reported to The Patch as a murder/suicide, which I think really messed up the investigation. Just a couple months ago, the family received their death certificates ruling their deaths as a homicide. Unfortunately it sounds like the police really missed some important steps and are now having a hard time finding information. Additionally, it was not covered on any major or local news outlet besides The Patch. We believe we know who the murder (possible murderers) is/are, but we really need help getting their story out there as still no one has been charged. If you are interested in covering her case, it would mean so much to her friends and family. I can give you the full story, and get you in touch with family members. Thank you for everything that you do!

This happened in my home town. I had run ins with the girls that did this to her a few times and my best friend was close friends with Skylar Growing up and she said she was genuinely one of the sweetest people she ever knew. What happened to her was horrific. I remember the day the found her. We threw a big party a few nights before at my friends property. Then just days later they found her body within like a hundred yard of the entrance to that property. It shook our town. Parents looked at their children’s friends with more judgment and suspicion for a long time. No one talks about it anymore. But we all know what happened. Those girls deserve every day in prison they get. I think about her family a lot now that I have kids of my own. I hope they can heal….

Never ever has a crime documentary made me this emotional. This poor girl, poor parents - i cant even begin to imagine the pain they must have gone through. May Skylar's soul rest in peace.

Knowing she might be eligible for parole this year is crazy

this case always makes me so incredibly mad. those two “friends” are some of the most disgusting and horrible people i’ve ever heard of. they GROSS me out. “we really did go on 3”, oh my god

My moms roommate was killed in college. Her name was Lisa Ziegert. Her case was solved two years ago with DNA but it’s an extremely interesting case. It’s a pretty famous case actually. Everyone thought it was a male friend of theirs for a long time and he was hated and blamed by everyone. It wasn’t him in the end.

Guys she's okay. A friend or so of hers on twitter posted that she's fine and is just taking a break from social media altogether. She's okay! She's not sick.

As a mother who lost her child when she was 10 to a drunk driver , I hope that is some way skylars parents can find some peace and joy anywhere they can I hope their hearts have started to heal , they will never ever be whole ever again their hearts will forever be broken but I hope they can find some peace In the fact that she is happy and safe and loved where ever she is , she will be watching and loving you from afar forever, till you see her again Rest In Peace little one ❤️A’HO ❤️

Oh dear I’m clearly an odd one out, if if most of your listeners are teenage girls?! I’m a 34 year old man. But I have been following your videos for nearly 3 years now and I am still in love with them and all of your legendary work!

The 2 girls that killed her did NOT get enough jail time. It’s appalling.

this is the most heartbreaking thing I’ve ever heard. Poor Skylar may she rest in peace, I could imagine her being the most beautiful and kind and caring loving person ever but those horrible, disgusting humans took it away for her and her family.

I’m from the Netherlands and this case is also very known in our country. I hate it when people try to figure out who was the bad seed. They’re both pure evil, because they BOTH planned the murder for months… Rachel shouldn’t even be sentenced for second degree murder. Murder is murder. R.I.P. Skylar 🕊️❤️

So evil, I hope they are never let out of jail. Disgusting examples of human life. To be so callous and tweet "we really did go on three" while simultaneously pretending to assist the investigation and search for the very person they killed is just horribly evil. That poor girl, Skylar, I hope she knows that she was too good for them and this world and I hope she is at least able to find some peace.

i hope skylar would be proud from all the lives she has saved from the Skylar’s Law. Especially since she wanted to go into a criminal justice career path. Rest in peace Skylar

I remember this case like it was yesterday. I was 17 at the time, and about to be a senior in high school that September. I was disgusted that the amber alert system refused to issue one for Skylar. Also, I knew Sheila and Rachael definitely knew more than they were telling people. It’s horrific that they could kill someone’s and act like nothing had happened. I understand that they were afraid Skyler would leak that selfie she took, but that was no reason to kill her. Couldn’t they have simply asked her not to leak the photo? My parents don’t support the LGBTQ+ community either, but they still love me even though I’m bi. If Skylar was still alive today, she would be 26 years old. R.I.P Skylar

These parents are SO STRONG mentally , I would 200% not have been able to handle this like they did. They let justice come legally and that’s HARD when you know someone your child LOVED murdered them..

It’s no wonder the one girl wanted to go to Skyler’s room. It wasn’t to feel closer to her, it was to try to find that diary with all the added “relationship” details that she did not want out 😳

a quick correction! the law enforcement did think Shelia was lying even before she said she would take a lie detector test, especially Officer Jessica Colebank because she thought Shelia's demeanor and behavior was wrong and narcissistic, and the girls changed details and were caught in lies. Rachel was the one fidgeting, touching her hair and avoiding eye contact while Shelia was very confident, always keeping eye contact and having her hands on the table. Great video, I absolutely loved it!

I know coming out to your parents is hard especially when they're religious but there was other ways to make her delete the photo or not have the photo happen in the first place then killing her. Like how about just asking her to delete it ? OR JUST DON'T DO THAT TYPE OF STUFF IN FRONT OF HER.

Knowing Shelia murdered skylar and was going around helping with the search is horrifying

I don't believe that the secret relationship was the motive behind this murder at all, at most it may have been a manipulation tactic on Sheila's part to encourage Rachel's involvement . I think the real and only reason for this sickening and abhorrent act was that it was a thrill kill , pure and simple. Both of these girls are evil and I don't believe that Sheila in particular should ever be deemed safe to be returned to society. My heart goes out to Skylars family .

I sometimes wondered why some kids would do something this horrible to another kid, especially one they considered a friend. I hope the monsters continue to rot in prison.

I want to give skylar a hug this is truly heartbreaking and she did not get the justice she deserves. I honestly have no idea how anyone could do something this awful.

This case has always made me nauseous. The thing that makes me most disgusted is trying to coverup their relationship by murdering someone. As if that wasn't going to expose them to the whole world. Absolutely insane.

thank you so much for telling the story of Skylar Neese. I went to school with her but didn't know her very well but we all felt like it was her "friends". I also wanted to let you know their was another murder about a year after Skylars death, my friend Kevin Hudson and his family was murdered. If you can also tell his story that would be so great. A lot of people don't remember it happening :'(

I remember watching the first video on this case and being so shocked. But what makes it sickening to me is how shiela acted as if she was really affected to the point where she even fooled skylar's parents. My heart goes out to her parents and i hope Skylar is in a better place

The way you present this story in a linear way with twists and layers is really impressive, as most true crime channels tend to tell cases like this in a boring retrospective style that doesn't capture the horror and betrayal to the same extent. You're a fantastic storyteller and I'm already a fan :))

It’s so irritating how many bystanders there were before the murder. Teachers, students, they ALL knew about this before it happened, someone should have said something. ANYTHING. Skylar should still be alive today.

I'm a true crime junkie but there's certain cases that just never leave me, this is certainly one of them. Skylar deserved so much better than these attention seeking psychopaths.

The fact that Apple said a 16 year old girls location was “confidential” truly disgusts me… she’s a CHILD!! She’s on her parents phone plan. I cannot believe that..

Normally listening to these never really faced me, probably just because I'm not good with emotions, but listening to this one really made me feel anger and sadness. It just infuriates me that Shiela had the audacity to ask to go to Skylar's room and had an emotional moment with her mother, knowing what she did. And just the fact that Skylar was just asking "why" as the two people she potentially trusted most were stabbing her like lunatics makes me feel really sick. They could've been civil and ACTUALLY talk to her about their friendship. If they just talked about it, Skylar would be alive, and Shiela and Rachel wouldn't be in jail.

I dont know why but this particular case is so appealing to me. I can literally watch any move/show or listen to any crime emotionless but this just gets to me. The months of preparation and the coldness of the two girls, the faking over months and the fact that one of them literally kept an emotionless face on through 8 years of that. Also you made an amazing job on presenting and telling the story, super easy to follow so idk welldone i guess

I remember catching the Dr Phil episode Skylar’s parents were on. Even though it had been a few years you could just tell they were still torn up from losing their daughter. Her dad even broke down crying cause of how much he missed her. Rachel and Shelia truly broke these people’s hearts and to call them evil is an understatement imo

The irony that they killed her because they didn’t want to be outed to their parents, friends etc, but in doing this they were outed to the world. Hopefully the parole board see past their disingenuous apologies.

my mom knew skylar's parents because they lived in the same town. it still so devistating and heartbreaking what happened to her and what her family was put through. rip skylar neese

As someone who is lgbt+ I completely understand the panic that must’ve happened when they realized their close friend might not approve of them or that they could get outed. They simply could’ve came to their best friend with a conversation about this situation and explain themselves. But what they did was disgusting and I think Sheila’s horrific behaviour was showing itself a long time before this. It’s horrible, rest in peace Skyler❤️

Hi Eleanor! Please cover Savannah Greywind (went missing while 8 months pregnant) or Chad Isaak (insane quadruple homicide with no known motive)! I lived close to both crimes as they happened....Chad Isaak's murder spree happened just blocks from my house. You are always sooo respectful of the cases you cover and go into all the details everyone else skips over (like what the victim's were like, the hobbies they enjoyed, etc). Would love to see these cases covered with the respect they deserve. Also, there was a case from the 90s here, Michael Neugebauer, a boy/young adult who murdered his entire family and went on the run. My mom and dad were actually pulled over because my dad drove the same vehicle they were looking for and matched Michael's description. Luckily my grandpa was following behind in another car, helping my parents move, and was able to corroborate that my dad wasn't the man they were looking for.

This case is one of the most heartbreaking out there- some people are just truly nasty. RIP Skylar

I lived in her hometown Morgantown when this happened (attending WVU), I remember that summer when I first saw the “missing” posters around town. Hearing the rumors, their whole school really knew who did it for months. Devastating story, you just cry when her dad would be interviewed on the news. He seems like such a nice guy, my heart really goes out to Skyler’s family.

Twenty years earlier, the murder of Shanda Sharer (in small-town southern Indiana) involved a lesbian (or perhaps bisexual) love triangle, but the girls involved were pretty open about their sexual orientations. That's a really interesting difference.

this case was probably the first true crime case I ever heard about. it's such a sad tale, my heart just aches for her parents and for skylar herself. I hope she's resting well. I'm still discovering new aspects about the case from this video -- testament to eleanor's research!! so proud of you eleanor, you're giving us a good name

It’s so sad how when Rachel made her confession, she really thought that it would be better if the whole world/her parents knew she was a murderer, rather than knowing she was gay 💀🙏🙏🙏 So twisted

I have watched this on Mrballens channel already a million times but it still shocks me how cold hearted and two sided some people can be.

this makes me cry , i remember seeing the missing person post .hearing what happen to her is so sad .

IMO playing with the emotions of victims family is almost as bad as the crime itself . Shame on these two girls. This family did not deserved this, nobody does 😔😭

Absolutely heartbreaking. I can’t imagine how betrayed and scared she would have felt when her friends turned on her like that. Rest in peace you sweet sweet girl xx

By the way! She is indeed okay and happy she was tagged in a photo 2 days ago and looks happier than ever! Hope she’s doing well!! A break is well needed at some points! ♥️

the way i come back to this channel everyday to see if something has been uploaded

One thing I love about her. Is that she doesn’t do make up or cook while she’s making her videos. She raw and real. Love this about her.

If you want to keep your love life private, don't force your mutual friend to watch you make out. It's not like they were hiding it and Skylar somehow found out and was blackmailing them (which still would not excuse premeditated murder). I think Sheila probably got off on the risk of their "secret" getting out plus the obvious discomfort she caused Skylar. I wonder if she got a psychopathic thrill from inserting herself right up close to her victim's grieving parents and offering help. She went beyond just some obligatory tears and searches. Sheila could have avoided dealing with Skylar's parents by pretending to deal with her shock and worry by withdrawing. Instead, she repeatedly put herself in a position to get sympathy from her victim's parents and observe their pain up close.

the way that Rachel, who wasn’t that close to Skylar; confessed, cried, and apologized for killing her, but Sheila, her best friend of 8 years, didn’t. r.i.p Skylar Earl Neese

Rachel’s parole just came up and she was denied

Hey all, for those of us who were wondering, Eleanor is fine, she's just taking a break. Heard from Jake the creator this morning - said by Ben Rist

How can the location of a missing 16-year-old's phone be "confidential"?? That's honestly messed up. I'm also wondering why they haven't checked the time of the footage of Skylar leaving her house sooner. Another highly frustrating case.

poor kid, skylar had such a bright future ahead of her.

i almost cried hearing about how worried and how involved sheila was... its unbelievably devastating to find out her role in all of this. how she didn't actually care. how much of it was on her. it blows my mind that someone could do all of that... to put so much fake but genuine believable grief into it. it's evil in a way i'll never be able to comprehend

smh, even if she “got in the car on her own” they should’ve still sent an amber alert. like just because someone knows someone or willingly goes to see them doesn’t mean they won’t murder them? most ppl are killed by someone they know anyway. it’s insane

this reminds me of how my old trio would act towards me and that scares and sickens me. I feel so bad for Skylar, Rest In Peace angel. I hope you know that we are sharing your story.

I live in Morgantown, had a boxing gym there There were 2 goth high school girls that worked out there. They went to the other high school in town, but then I asked them about Skylar's disappearence about 72 hours after it happened? They told me that she had been stabbed to death and left in the woods by a student lesbian couple so as not to be outed. When they left, I turned to the other 20 people in there and said 'i sure don't know what happened; but THAT ain't it. Took the cops 6 months? I've always wondered about that. RIP.

Poor Skylar, she would’ve been amazing in the criminal justice system, it’s sick and twisted that the person who felt like a sister to her could’ve done that to her showing no remorse.

No matter how many times I hear this story, it never fails to shock me.

I feel so sorry for Skylar’s parents. Imagine believing you’re going through the same thing as your daughter’s friends, giving them support and letting them help search with you, just to find out they’re the people responsible for it and wanted to do it for 9 months. They wanted to break off their relationship, and instead of just saying it they took away an innocent and promising girl’s life.

I read Sheila's old tweets and their is so many more disgusting things she has said

I totally understand the distaste for giving Rachel the plea deal. It's indescribably horrific what they did to Skylar. HOWEVER, if the judge went back on his word by rescinding the plea deal after a confession, this takes away the incentive for future criminals to confess to a crime where they know they are backed into a corner. They can just deny, deny, deny, have a really lengthy, costly trial where they are still proven guilty anyway but still get maximum time. And other people involved in the crime could still be roaming free. It's a far from perfect system, but I understand why the judge made the call he did.