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My DOS Retro Gaming PC Time Machine Socket 7 Pentium MMX

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PhilsComputerLab

PhilsComputerLab

Жыл бұрын

In this video I'm showing off my DOS Retro Gaming PC! Because of the Socket 7 motherboard and Pentium MMX processor I can configure the speed so it runs speed sensitive games at the correct speed, but can also handle more demanding 3D games such as Doom or System Shock.
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@PierreVonStaines
@PierreVonStaines Жыл бұрын
Great to see your not camera shy anymore mate, I think it’s a really positive decision after all these years to talk to your audience direct. At the end of the day people will always support you, but putting yourself in the videos really connects with your viewers on another level. Well done pal, good on you! 👍
@symol30872
@symol30872 Жыл бұрын
Really well said
@lmcgregoruk
@lmcgregoruk Жыл бұрын
@@symol30872 Yeah, I was watching this video, and I was trying to remember if I'd ever seen him in a video before(his face I mean, not just hands/arms), and I wasn't sure if I hadn't seen him in a video before, or If I had and there was just something different about him.
@LeeMc007
@LeeMc007 Жыл бұрын
Agreed, well said 👍
@adamschackart6859
@adamschackart6859 Жыл бұрын
I had imagined him as being very short with long frizzy hair and a big nose. I was way off 😂
@karmakaruna
@karmakaruna Жыл бұрын
@@adamschackart6859 i imagined a skinny, lanky Australian dude with long blonde frizzy hair. wait... that's just techyescity but without a haircut lmao
@osgrov
@osgrov Жыл бұрын
Feels great to finally put a face to the voice after all these years! Well met, Phil. :) I grew up on Commodores and later the Amiga. Stuck with them until sometime in 1992 when I managed to get a brand new 486 system thanks to work. I used that for many years playing DOS games, and most of the time I had a Tseng ET4000 which was later upgraded to an ATI Mach-something (I think it was a Mach64 but I kind of forgot). Sound was provided by the original SB16 which cost a bloody fortune I recall. :) Anyways, had that throughout the 90s. Early Windows never did it for me so I more or less skipped that stuff until late into the Win 98 era. Didn't move to Windows full-time until Windows 2000 came out. Now that was a nice Windows, finally. Anyway! Very nice system you put together here, I sure could use something similar. The only working retro-PC I have now is a Core 2 Duo-rig that I use for XP gaming, but I really could use something older like this. I'm getting the itch to play Master of Orion again, hehe.. One of my all-time favorites. I know it works in DOSBox but as you know, that's not the same thing. Keep it up brother, been a loyal fan for many years now - here's hoping for many more years to come. :)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! Yes Retro PC Gaming is a really fun hobby. With DOS there are actually many options, even modern stuff like AMD Socket 754/939 and Pentium 4 can work well. I want to test LGA 775 with DOS, but sound is the main challenge...
@osgrov
@osgrov Жыл бұрын
@Michaels Carport yeah, I believe I paid almost $500 for that box set that also included a CD-ROM drive (1X speed!) Crazy times, but so much fun. :)
@rBennich
@rBennich Жыл бұрын
I agree it's nice to finally see a face, and first I was kinda shocked at; 1 - the intensity in his eyes, and 2 - the shininess of his head. 😊
@mark12358
@mark12358 Жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab Great video a what a beauty game on the screen (Indy IV)! I laughed a bit, reading that AMD Socket 754/939 and P4 are still considered "modern stuff"! 😅😅 Keep it up with these gems video, please! Cheers, M
@lexluthermiester
@lexluthermiester Жыл бұрын
My DOS retro PC is DOSBOX. It runs everything I'm interested in perfectly.
@GearSeekers
@GearSeekers Жыл бұрын
It's great to see you mate!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
😍
@pascalmariany
@pascalmariany Жыл бұрын
I agree! Good choice to see you as a person instead of first person view 😎👍🏼
@DilbertCronicles
@DilbertCronicles 23 күн бұрын
It's nice to note you speak with both Austrian and Aussie accent. My first ever computer was a Pentium 166 MMX in a Dell Optiplex Gn+ from 1997/8. I was an intern at a large multinational accounting firm. We just started computerisation. We used to have a computer room where there were 20 desktops shared by 200 staff, whilst waiting for new laptops for every staff over a 3 year period. One day, I noted our MIS took 4 units and were about to throw them in a dumpster at the back of our office. I asked for permission to take all 4 home and was OK'ed as all 4 were faulty in one form or another. I started disassemble each and learn the internals of a PC. Eventually, I figured which parts were faulty in each of the 4 and realised i could mix & match their parts to make 2 perfectly working units that's better than new. I turned one unit into a home modem dial-up server, fax server & file server. I gave the other unit to my sister's friend's nephew who needed a computer for his university studies. I used it until 2007 when the PATA HDD failed. I didn't replaced the PATA HDD since I have my own laptop by then. I'd kept it in storage and shortly after, left for another country to work. I would be retiring end of this year, and return to my childhood home. I remembered that Dell with the Pentium 166 MMX that started my knowledge in computers. I plan to make it run again and was researching in KZfaq when your video was recommended. I had also forgotten about the need to a PATA to SATA adapter as shown in your video. I would need one to connect SATA drives into those PATA interfaces. by the way, did you encounter any limitations to the size of SATA SSD ? I supposed the smallest sized 128GB SATA SSD should be OK. I believe any OS, programs and games from that era would still work in the DELL Optiplex Gn+ but not much use for anything connected and modern. I plan to try DSL and Puppy Linux to see how much more it can do.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 23 күн бұрын
Thanks for sharing your story! Even smaller than 128 would be recommended, these old machines have hardware as well as software capacity limitations. You could look into buying IDE to SD card adapter and using 32GB SD card instead.
@DilbertCronicles
@DilbertCronicles 23 күн бұрын
@@philscomputerlab thanks. didn't know there's SD to IDE adapter as I can't get these in my locale. We do have IDE to SATA and SD to USB but not SD to IDE.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab 23 күн бұрын
@@DilbertCronicles Yea these days a lot of gadgets are only available online on places like eBay or Amazon.
@dennisp.2147
@dennisp.2147 Жыл бұрын
I built a similar machine a couple of years ago out of mostly NOS parts where I could. I used a modernish NOS 2008 Cooler Master ATX case, an NOS Chaintech 6ESA0 ATX motherboard with the 440EX chipset and onboard Yamaha sound. No one seems to want the 66mhz limited chipsets on the Slot 1 boards, so it was quite reasonable on eBay (although the seller has since sold out.) I paired the board with a 233 MHz PII, 128MB of SDRAM and a PCI SATA1 card. Video is provided by an AGP S3 Trio with composite out that I've owned since the Mid 1990's. It's set up to triple boot MS-DOS 6.22 and Windows 2k from the native IDE drive and Windows 98SE from a 40gb SATA drive . The onboard Yamaha sound gives decent Soundblaster compatibility plus native OPL3. The BIOS allows me to downclock the CPU to 133 mhz and disable the CPU cache for older games. I've added a USB hub internally to allow most of the front case I/O to be hooked up, but the board doesn't have AC97 headers, so front mic and headphones aren't working. I've got a DVD drive and a CD-RW hooked up to the second native IDE channel. I've also got a 5.25 and 3.5" floppies installed on the floppy line. Power is supplied by an NOS ATX supply that has a -5V line. It was fairly difficult to find. The case is pretty packed, but future plans are the installation of a GOTEK (although I dislike them, it's hard to argue with the ease of use) Possibly convert the "modern" partition from Windows 2k to XP (Again, I prefer 2K, but its hard to argue with 15 years of XP driver support) and the addition of an LS-120 drive to allow me to keep the option of booting from a 3.5' floppy with an added GOTEK. I've got a Super Socket 7 ATX board waiting to build into a stupidly modern case with glass sides. I was going to use a K6-III that I've had for a few years sitting around, but I might just consider using a plain-jane Pentium MMX.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Nice!
@AIM9XSW
@AIM9XSW Жыл бұрын
Like many who grew up in the 1980s, we started with a Commodore 64, then moved to an Amiga 1000 (with the 512k expansion) in mid-1986. Really wish I had kept these machines. We used the A1000 for nearly 9 years before moving to a Pentium 75/Windows 95 machine (specifically, an IBM Aptiva M-series), which I upgraded several times before building my own Socket 7 platform (AMD K6-3 450) in 1999 as I entered my freshman year of college. I still have this machine, and have built my own PCs ever since. After watching your video on Pentium 4 machines for retro gaming, I built 2 LGA775 machines based on the Pentium 4 520 (2.8 GHz). They dual-boot Windows 98SE/XP and work perfectly. They're fast enough to handle the games that ran like a slide show in the late 1990s (i.e., Flight: Unlimited), and give me a liquid-smooth experience with games like Need for Speed 4 (and I might add that network play with these machines is really fun). But I can also slow the machines down with DOSBox in Windows XP for speed-sensitive games like Wing Commander, etc. Using nGlide with ATI Radeon X800 series GPUs, legacy 3dfx support is very good for games that need it in Windows 98SE. The SoundBlaster Live! (with the Audigy2 ZS drivers you suggest in another video) provides a superb, cost-effective MIDI solution, allowing me to use my favorite soundfonts. Excellent video!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Pentium 4 FTW! Great hearing the X800 odes well with nGlide!
@holgerwikingsen713
@holgerwikingsen713 Жыл бұрын
I'm a caveman and kept using a 486 up to the year 2000 and embarrassingly enough got my first sound card that same year (was using pc speaker all that time and programmed great tunes myself with BASIC). The card was an ISA-slot ESS Crystal Sound whatever model, nothing new nor crazy but for me it was the revolution. Had to buy speakers also for the first time, it felt weird having those in the desk. I couldn't believe that my programs and games could produce nature-like sounds. I remember using a windows sound recorder to save and edit wavs, it was an awful grinding experience but I remember it very fondly, kind of like a toddler playing with one of those "match the shape" toys.
@javi30nkp
@javi30nkp Жыл бұрын
my fried if u need i donate u a q6600 :)
@chrisducati26
@chrisducati26 Жыл бұрын
Great to see you in person Phil, i subscribed to your channel many years ago because you put so much passion with platforms i loved like the socket 7 and your contribution to the community is stunning!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@axa993
@axa993 Жыл бұрын
It's still very nice seeing your face all over again TBH. And it's so cool everyone's accepting of it!
@DeViLzzz2006
@DeViLzzz2006 Жыл бұрын
This channel exudes love. If the world was more like this channel it would be a much better place.
@UpLateGeek
@UpLateGeek Жыл бұрын
It's my dream to build a home lab (I'm a network engineer) into a rack, but I also want to put in a retro PC using some kind of rackmount case. First I thought I would have to modify an ATX case to fit an AT or baby AT motherboard, then I got the idea of buying a smaller form factor PC and putting it on a shelf. But now I see the answer is obvious, just find an ATX socket 7 motherboard and use a standard ATX rackmount case. Now I just need to find one for a reasonable price ... oh yeah, and buy an apartment large enough for a rack! 😄 In terms of your build, I think you've done a good job covering all the bases. If you couldn't find a board with AGP, then a PCI card would probably be fine, you'd just need to use the VGA input of your screen (or use an older model with a VGA input). Unless you can find one with DVI, but I guess that would be pretty rare. I personally prefer the genuine OPL sound over the CQM/CT1978 sound. _[Insert why don't we have both meme here]_ Technically it's possible to have _two_ sound cards in one system, however I'm not sure how that would work in practice if you're using PNP cards. Obviously older non-PNP cards allow you to manually set the midi I/O port, IRQ and DMA, which would allow you to avoid conflicting with a PNP card like the AWE64. But I think the Adlib port is hard wired to I/O port 388/389h, so I'm not sure how that works with two cards in the system. I would probably just use a SB16 card (with OPL3) and a Sound Canvas/MT32.
@3dfxvoodoocards6
@3dfxvoodoocards6 Жыл бұрын
Pentium MMX and Socket 7 videos are always interesting. Like !
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Glad you think so!
@michaelluong6484
@michaelluong6484 Жыл бұрын
My first PC was a Packard Bell 486sx running at 33Mhz with a whooping 4 MB of RAM that couldn't even run Doom... so I was beyond thrilled when I got my second PC - a Gateway 2000 with a Pentium 2 400Mhz that came with 32MB RAM , which I upgraded to 64MB and added a 3dfx Voodoo 2. The first PC I built completely for myself was an AMD Athlon 64 with a Radeon 9800 Pro and a Sound Blaster Audigy. Love your channel Phil, always brings up good memories.
@modlabs
@modlabs Жыл бұрын
This is most warm video i ever seen on this channel. Thanks.
@ioangabriel2002
@ioangabriel2002 Жыл бұрын
Phil never stop. Youre amazing. Good knoledge. Perfect presentation. Amazing videos! Thumbs up!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@ioangabriel2002
@ioangabriel2002 Жыл бұрын
I'm from a country in europe called romania. I'm sure you never heard of it but i can assure you that you have at least 1 fan here.all over the planet people apreciate your work. We salute you.keep up the good work.
@blairlohnes8103
@blairlohnes8103 Жыл бұрын
I have so many retro computers but my favorites would have to be my PMMX 233, 64MB EDO, 2MB S3Trio 64v2, 4MB Diamond Voodoo 1, ESS Audiodrive 1868, 40GB HDD system, and my P3 1.4, 512MB SDR, 64MB Voodoo 5 AGP, Sound Blaster Live 5.1, 64GB SD to IDE system. They span my childhood PC gaming experiences from throughout the 90s.
@danielberrett2179
@danielberrett2179 Жыл бұрын
Philday is always a great day. Thank you for the continued content.
@amindlost
@amindlost Жыл бұрын
Really nice to have a (smiling) face to put to the voice! Like you, I started with a Commodore64, then moved on to a 386/25 with a whopping 1MB of RAM in highschool, early 90's. A while later, a friend's father gave me a 486 DX2/66 with 16MB of RAM, which was light years beyond our little 386. In that 486 I had a Gravis UltraSound Classic with the 1MB memory expansion that I purchased off another friend's brother, as he was looking to upgrade to the GUS PnP. Around this time I had gotten into music tracking, and the GUS was *the* card to have for that - shoutout to Marc Schallehn (MAS of Prophecy) for UltraTracker, which took full advantage of the GUS. In 1997 I got a Pentium 233MMX with 32MB, an AWE64 Gold, and later upgraded from an ATI card to a Voodoo3 2000 PCI. I used this system for a solid five years before upgrading to a Socket462 Athlon Thunderbird 750 on an Abit KT7A-RAID. And here I am, almost twenty years later enjoying your videos, which give me those warm fuzzy feelings as I also kick myself repeatedly for having just discarded all that old hardware than I'm now buying second hand all over again (mostly the expensive AWE64 and a lucky find Voodoo3 3000 AGP in a not well described eBay purchase). Thanks for the videos Phil, I really enjoy everything you put out.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@davidfranklinv2860
@davidfranklinv2860 Жыл бұрын
Out of all the retro pc channels on KZfaq, yours is by far the best. I have learned so much over the years and I keep learning something new every-time you put out new content. You have such a genuine personality and way of doing things. Thank you, Phil for the hard work and dedication. And now your quality and presentation is even that much crisper and professional. 👍🏻😎👍🏻
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@guilhermegvb1356
@guilhermegvb1356 Жыл бұрын
So good to see someone I heard in so many videos! Cheers!
@tim6628
@tim6628 Жыл бұрын
Love this new format Phil, awesome work!
@blakedmc1989RaveHD
@blakedmc1989RaveHD Жыл бұрын
u're making me regret not lookin' into those Sound Blaster hardware alot earlier than i discovered ur channel even though i did picked up a Sound Blaster Live second hand
@zacmitchell_1984
@zacmitchell_1984 Жыл бұрын
Well done! One of the few channels I watch start to finish.
@nm0490
@nm0490 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video Phil. Love the background stories and reasons why you chose components.
@smiljanicn
@smiljanicn Жыл бұрын
Man, how much you helped me and whole Pc comunity. Respect!
@molivil
@molivil Жыл бұрын
I have the best of both worlds. My 486 rig (upgraded to AMD 5x86 133MHz) has an ESS688 and Sound Blaster AWE64 installed. The ESS688 has a real Yamaha OPL3 chip, so that covers most Adlib and OPL3 compatible sound generation. The AWE64 serves the wavetable sounds. I have a small patch cable going from the Line-out of the AWE64 to the line-in of my ESS688 so I can have sound coming from one output. The ESS 688 is on standard 220/5/1 address, while the AWE64 installed automatically on 240/7/3, and the AWE64 wavetable answers at the default 330H/620H addresses. The 240/7/3 is not really needed anyway, as digital sounds come from the ESS688 anyway. The operating system I chose for it is Windows 95 C OSR 2.5, which has a really good compatibility with General MIDI and AWE64, and the operating system itself services General MIDI compatible calls to DOS apps, so surprisingly even games without specific AWE compatibility can play MIDI sound tracks through the AWE. And everything "just works" running under Windows 95, which, given my past experience, was a pleasant change. But of course, I can boot to DOS any time if needed.
@syoder1974
@syoder1974 Жыл бұрын
Hey Guys! All these new videos, and getting to finally "meet" Phil! Sweet!
@CaptainShiny5000
@CaptainShiny5000 Жыл бұрын
We had a 486 DX/50 in the household. Had some sort of Cirrus Logic SVGA capable card and a soundblaster clone. It came with 4MB Ram but we later upgraded to 8MB. However I had a C128 myself (only ever used it in C64 mode, though) and absolutely loved it. I actually finished Giana Sisters at least once back in the days but I also played Zak McKracken on it and many other games.
@r4z4m4t4z
@r4z4m4t4z Жыл бұрын
awesome vid, thanks for your efforts and sharing, your personality shines thru! pc magazines were essential to me also in those dark days before the modems...
@OneSmallStepWeb
@OneSmallStepWeb Жыл бұрын
She's a looker. Great spec. Great to see your face (again). Really enjoying this new work you've been producing.
@MidnightGeek99
@MidnightGeek99 Жыл бұрын
Hey Phil, thank you for taking the time to explain all of these. One of the things I like most is your use of FX series cards, you have a lot of videos with them, here's to many more! 🏆🏆
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
🙂
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder Жыл бұрын
Still rockin' my Leadtek WinFast A350XT TDH which is an FX5900XT bought in June 2004. I recently bought a replacement fan for it, and so its whisper quiet again and ready for another 18 years! 😂
@MidnightGeek99
@MidnightGeek99 Жыл бұрын
@@EgoShredder I also have a 5900XT, from Gigabyte, and it's rocking inside a P4 build. I have an NV Silencer 3 prepared for it, but Gigabyte's cooler is very nice, cool and quiet!
@knghtbrd
@knghtbrd Жыл бұрын
The FX5200 is really a good choice for pretty old hardware because it's got just enough hardware to fully implement DX9, but it's not very good at it. It's not spectacular the older APIs its more suited for (DX7/DX8/OpenGL 1.x), but it can run those titles well enough to keep up with the hardware you'd want for a DOS machine. And, because it was still built with a notion that Win98 users might be buying it, it's still got pretty decent DOS support. Plus, the FX5200 was absolutely everywhere at the time it was a "current" card so there's a lot of them out there, but is widely considered to be A FLAMING PIECE OF CRAP by gamers trying to run the latest titles, so nobody wants the things. That makes them a cheap get for DOS/Win98 PCs which don't need anything better.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
@@knghtbrd Another good card is the Radeon 9200 / SE / LE. Also cheap and even does DVI sharper. Over VGA they are all the same though.
@MarcoGPUtuber
@MarcoGPUtuber Жыл бұрын
Socket 7 is the lucky socket!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Yes I remember being excited about this platform back on VOGONS when everyone was building high performance, and expensive, PCI 486 machines 🙂
@thicclink
@thicclink Жыл бұрын
Love hearing the backstory behind the interests and the choices of parts. I think many of us share a similar sentiment in why we build our retro computers today.
@rwl0323
@rwl0323 Жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! Thanks Phil!
@jasper8291
@jasper8291 Жыл бұрын
Nice to see your face Phil, and interesting to hear your stories! I've been watching your videos for a couple of years now and I just wanted to say that I like them a lot. Keep up the good work!
@thewayback_playback
@thewayback_playback Жыл бұрын
Can't recall how many times Phil's videos have helped with configuring my retro space. Great to put a face to the name! Hi Phil!
@w19ely85
@w19ely85 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant video, long time fan of yours Phil.
@alextirrellRI
@alextirrellRI Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all you've been doing over the years. Your starter packs, driver library, and review videos have been immensely helpful in putting together various builds. At home myself, I am using PIII machine for Win98 era games. I have a MiSTer covering the slower 486 stuff. There is a new XT core for the oldest stuff.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@Kyle1444
@Kyle1444 Жыл бұрын
Heyyy, good to see you finally Phil :) Ive been tuning into your videos for years and years already. Hello from Denmark
@nosee8466
@nosee8466 Жыл бұрын
I follow you since the last 6 years... and now nice to meet you Phil... what a surprise!
@Synthematix
@Synthematix Жыл бұрын
For me it all started when using my mates Mitsubishi desktop pc, it had a Pentium 90 Cpu and run Windows95, i had the must fun customizing the OS, it was a beautiful looking computer with its matching Mitsubishi CRT screen
@Darren66860
@Darren66860 9 ай бұрын
Very nice to see a face to the voice. Very envious of your sound set up - amazing. I've always liked the Awe 32 sound cards. Creative make really good cards. Keep the videos coming, love the content.
@biotrekker
@biotrekker Жыл бұрын
Very good explanations of all choices for this build!
@Luke-rr9po
@Luke-rr9po Жыл бұрын
Great video Phil, i always enjoy the clear way you explain everything - keep up the excellent work!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@johnnovak1979
@johnnovak1979 Жыл бұрын
Nice overview Phil, I like your practical no-nonsense approach to things.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Thank you 😊
@lordpurchase9189
@lordpurchase9189 Жыл бұрын
The Internet is amazing I have learned so many things over the decades from youtube videos like yours and a whole lot of other subjects. A lot of my Retro PC builds wouldn't be complete without your drivers and stuff.
@symol30872
@symol30872 Жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Really enjoying the new presentation format :)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it!
@spitzspitzer6117
@spitzspitzer6117 Жыл бұрын
Phil, thx to Your MEGA positive appereance Your YTchannel is even better. GOOD CHOICE! You are a tremendous person in retro community and the fact that You spend so much time on Your work gives me to be Your solid fan. Thanks and keep up with this great work.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks!
@HeyItsJonny
@HeyItsJonny Жыл бұрын
I love your focus on sound. Sound is such an important aspect of old games, and you touched on every reason you needed the hardware you have accurately. Austria, UK, and Austraila? You get around, man.
@roguenova6766
@roguenova6766 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for expanding upon your time machine-type retro PC endeavors! Several years ago they were part of what inspired me to dive deep into the hardware speed-tuning for CPU-sensitive games. My time machine is a dinky-sounding Celeron 800 with GeForce2 MX and an SBLink-connected ESS Solo-1 (a replica of my first private PC in 2001), but after years of Throttle/CPUSPD/FDAPM-type chipset throttling software capabilities "research", it can pretty much 100%-correctly run any PC game from 1980 to 2001 (excluding those requiring a real pre-VGA card or a pre-Pentium CPU, of course) and I love it :)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@Roadkill7878
@Roadkill7878 Жыл бұрын
Another great video. I have just built a Socket 7 pc with a 233 MMX so your starter pack is just what I’m looking for 👍🏻
@kilotangosierra
@kilotangosierra Жыл бұрын
Hey Phil... good to finally see you! another great video, thank you
@michaelmiguelsanchez
@michaelmiguelsanchez Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Steve Balmer has found something to do to keep himself occupied since leaving Microsoft. ;) Love the videos mate. I appreciate the Aussie availability/costing that comes with your content as well.
@CHiLL72
@CHiLL72 Жыл бұрын
It's good to see you in front of the camera Phil, it makes your videos more personal. Well done! With the Roland MPU-401/AT in this retro PC, an additional Waveblaster-type card should have gone in of course 🙂 as it is the perfect card for it. You provided some very good and practical tips for anyone looking to build a versatile DOS gaming PC. Maybe it's time for me too to build a Pentium MMX machine, as I have plenty of parts to do so. I just a suitable PC case. I have mostly been using Pentium II systems for DOS lately, although I don't run the very old DOS games on it. Keep up the good work Phil!
@MarshalArnold
@MarshalArnold Жыл бұрын
When I saw this video, I thought maybe you were interviewing someone based on the thumbnail lol. Nice to put a face to the voice, thnx Phil!
@jeffwhite9001
@jeffwhite9001 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video and so good to finally put a face to the voice, brings back so many memories, I'm currently going through all my stuff, I have a lot of Pentium stuff from this era and picking what to use to build a machine.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Xerxes-xn1gy
@Xerxes-xn1gy Жыл бұрын
Cool video and nice setup ! Born in 1986 I grow up with my dad's Atairi 520ST and Amiga 500 and my first computer was a 486 DX machine I think (with a matrox GPU !) then I got an AMD K6-2 with windows 98 wich from there I started building my own computers :) and I have a lot of cool memories from this period. Thanks to your videos I found my self motivated to rebuild a Windows XP machine recently and the next one will be a MS-Dos/Windows 98 for sure.
@eyekeyfun6888
@eyekeyfun6888 Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil! My "Time-Machine" is an Intel 486 DX4/100 with 64MB RAM on an Asus VL/I-486SV2GX4 Motherboard. I have mixed also old Hardware and modern components. The Case is a little bit show and shine. It has a side Window and an UV-Light. Some of the old ISA Cards and RAM modules glow in UV-Light. That looks awesome ;-) A GoTek as well as a DVD drive is also installed and for the HDD I use an IDE-CF Adapter. (I dont wanted loud Harddrives in this system) this "Time-Machine" is very silent. ;-) For sound I use the SB16 CT2290. (I bought it from Hartlauer back the Days 1996). It was a complete Package in a big Box with CD-ROM Drive, Speakers and a fat Software-Package from Microsoft. (MS-Works, MS-Publisher, Encarta...etc) All of the old components where back the days my daily PC. And I am also proud that it is a VLB System. On this project I have done some Soldering. (added a PS2/Mouse Port) and updated the BIOS for more compatibility. (UV EPROM)! Greetings, EyeKeyFun Viele Grüße aus dem Burgenland. :-D ;-)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Reading about Hartlauer, well that made my day 🙂 VLB is cool and IMO the way to go with a 486 instead of PCI.
@MultiWirth
@MultiWirth Жыл бұрын
I don´t have too many DOS games i remember because i was born too late (1999). But for this purpose i have my Compaq Armada 7770DMT which runs either DOS 7.1 + Windows XP or Windows 98 + Windows XP with two different hard drives. The laptop has a multibay and hdd bay. Removing the drive is super easy and you just slide the other drive-caddy inside. It´s meeting barely the minimum requirements to run Xp, but at least it gives me full USB 2.0 support for the PCMCIA card. Data transfer is simple this way and organizing folders, games and stuff much more hassle free. The hardware is perfectly compatible with DOS and the laptop form factor saves space. The 800x600 TFT screen is just great for games. Pentium MMX 233Mhz, 144MB RAM, 100Gb or 60GB or 20GB HDD (currently). 2D Graphics card with 2MB VRAM, 32bit colors within windows at native screen resolution.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Nice using a laptop for retro games 🙂
@mesterak
@mesterak Жыл бұрын
Happy Friday Phil! Thanks for sharing details of your DOS gaming build and for sharing some of your personal history 👍
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@LeeMc007
@LeeMc007 Жыл бұрын
Great video again Phil, feel like I'm repeating myself but you have such a great channel, your content and knowledge is just excellent and great to see you in front of the camera now. 👍 I started with a 486 then on to a Pentium 100 and on and on it goes as we all know, the favourite era for me is the early 3d acceleration era from 96-2000, anything from P1 to P3 and now I have a quite ridiculous amount of parts and systems from mainly that era but also some XP stuff up to around 07 and I buy/repair build and sell stuff to fund buying more, it's a great hobby and one that seems to have gotten more popular the last few years and I think you've certainly contributed massively to that which is a great achievement. ✌
@davkdavk
@davkdavk Жыл бұрын
Warms the heart seeing a vintage build like this. I had a AWE64 in my first PC. Cyrix PR200 (166mhz)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
I'm thinking of changing the case, for some reason all my stuff is black and a bit boring 😃
@davkdavk
@davkdavk Жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab Nah, suits the build I recon!
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz Жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab Oh AWE a AWE64 as much as I love classic Soundblaster opl/fm I would jump at thr chance to hear AWE again. my grandfather's XP machine had a 64 gold card, man playing songs on youtube was a blast on it
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Yes a lot of games support the AWE directly and sound a step up from FM.
@EgoShredder
@EgoShredder Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-xq1pz I remember at the time in the late 90s, musicians using the AWE64 having to manually adjust the audio tracks inside Cubase, so that each one started playing slightly after the previous to make them all play in sync. Later Soundblasters had better technology doing away with the need to adjust track delays / processing latency. However it was a great cheap entry level card for beginners, and those on a tight budget.
@PixelPipes
@PixelPipes Жыл бұрын
This video felt like the most personal video you've made on your channel, and I really like it for that. Getting to know the real Phil and why all this means so much to you. Really great! I have a SS7 Baby AT board I just recently got, and so far I've just been playing with a K6-2+, but it supports Pentium MMX and I've been curious to try it out, and this video gives a good reason for doing so.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
The K6 CPUs are very interesting and the later ones can be quite a bit faster, depending on the software. It's what I used for a while until SETMUL utility supported the extra CPU options for the MMX. That's when I made the switch as I rather have more control over the slower speeds.
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy Жыл бұрын
Great video and nice setup! My favorite setup: Asus PVI-486SP3, Pentium 83Mhz Overdrive, VLB Tseng Et4000W32p, Creative AWE32 CT3980, and a real HDD with moving heads and spinning sound. Fav. games: Monkey Island, POP 1 & 2, all kind of flipper tables, Doom. 😉💪🏼
@KeyToTime
@KeyToTime Жыл бұрын
Good to see your face! Always wondered what you looked like!
@retrogear
@retrogear Жыл бұрын
Good on ya Phil. Your contributions to the community are invaluable. Great to see your happy face in your most recent videos.
@GatvolFourie
@GatvolFourie Жыл бұрын
Great choices Phil. I'm busy with a socket 5 AT Pentium 200 non mmx, 2 x 32mb simm ram, awe64gold, Creative voodoo2, all in a perspex case. Really enjoy your channel , yup, my first pc was an imb pc-xt !
@JohnSmith-iu8cj
@JohnSmith-iu8cj Жыл бұрын
Awesome video! Really made me want to dive back in to my retro goodness and build a very similar pc with a different gpu and sound card 😉
@vswitchzero
@vswitchzero Жыл бұрын
Great to finally put a face to the voice, Phil! Loved the video. Your time machine videos were very helpful to me over the years when I started getting into retro PCs. 👍 My PC gaming journey started a little later than yours. I was more into NES/SNES in the early 90s, but did have an old monochrome IBM clone machine that I tinkered with on occasion and taught myself DOS with. It wasn't until about 1993 or so that I got really into PCs, with games like Wolf3D, Commander Keen and some of the Sierra classics. My best friend's Dad had a 486/33 and always had the latest games. In 1994 my family finally got a DX2/66 and I was thoroughly obsessed by that point 😀
@georgez8859
@georgez8859 Жыл бұрын
A very nice Machine Phil. My first was a Pentium 133 and Windows 95. Thanks for the info on the Roland and all the Videos you make I always learn something new from them.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Pentium 133 was also my first Pentium. I built that machine after coming from an AMD 486DX4!
@peterhenkel3020
@peterhenkel3020 Жыл бұрын
Hi and Greetings from Germany. I just finished Indiana Jones and the fate of Atlanis on my 486, last week. So nice to see it on your screen :-D For DOS gaming I'm using two computers. The first one is the mentioned 486 @ 160 MHz and Sound Blaster Pro 2.0. My first PC was a 486 and I played Keen4, Doom, Heretic, Duke3D and SimCity2000 . Then I have a machine for later games. And sure this has to be a Socket7 System with K6.2+ @600 MHz, Matrox + Voodoo2, SD AWE32 + Roland SC55. Back in the days I missed that era of late DOS 3D and early Windows 3D games completely. Because I jumped straight to a Pentium III 900 MHz and to UT99. Regarding MIDI: This topic was quite new for me and I learned a lot in your videos. Without your channel I guess I wouldn't have the Sound Canvas hooked to the AWE32 :-D MIDI Music has a special charm. So it is the same thing for me like Vinyl for regular music. Who loves DOS Games needs MIDI.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Awesome :D
@kanuu7192
@kanuu7192 Жыл бұрын
Every time I hear you say a German word I'm thinking "he sounds Austrian"! Great to hear it confirmed ;) Greetings from Germany! :)
@dcknature
@dcknature Жыл бұрын
What could be better than a retro PC 🤔? - A time machine: two in one. As always thanks for the video, you've made my day 🍉😉👍!
@thomasschraubt7497
@thomasschraubt7497 Жыл бұрын
I would have never thought that Phil and I have the same hairstyle. Bald brothers for life!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
😅
@alvar891
@alvar891 Жыл бұрын
That's a really nice setup. A atx socket 7 seems way easier to work with. I have a working at socket 7 board with a pentium mmx. That thing only gives you a at keyboard out of the back. Thinking about fitting it into a modern case also for convenience. Thankfully your videos educate me enough to maybe even get it up and running lol. Not easy jumping on this platform when my first pc at home was a socket 478. Did play those old games and used the older oses at friends or at school. Get alot of nostalgia from these videos alone. Thank you for the great retro content.
@AIM9XSW
@AIM9XSW Жыл бұрын
It's hard to find the one perfect MS-DOS/Windows 9x machine that can run the greatest games from the 1980s-1990s, including the early 3D accelerated games. Yes, there's DOSBox for modern machines, but the biggest problems lie with the early Windows 9x games and early 3D accelerated games that rely on ancient operating system/graphics/sound libraries (for games that haven't been rewritten and sold on digital distribution platforms). For me, this means several machines from the mid-1990s to about 2004, all networked together. This makes for great retro gaming LAN party experiences, and, with DOSBox SVN builds supporting NE2000 networking, it's easy for a modern PC to join a LAN party with older Windows 9x machines running IPX network gaming sessions (i.e., Doom 1/2, Duke Nukem 3D, Descent, etc.). As legacy hardware prices continue to climb, it would be really neat to see projects like "PCem" continue to improve.
@deono
@deono Жыл бұрын
Hi Phil. Your passion for retro computing is really great to see. I started with a C64 and then went on to an IBM PS/2 model 50z with a 286 CPU, VGA graphics, 1MB RAM and 60MB HDD. I still have a bunch of retro ThinkPads and a few IBM compatibles with most being Pentium 3 or 4. To be honest, I'm still chasing my ultimate retro build being a Pentium MMX class machine from IBM. You're really lucky to have so much rare Roland equipment and I'm with you on Sound Blaster its also my favorite sound card brand still.
@Johny40Se7en
@Johny40Se7en Жыл бұрын
Pentium MMX... never even heard of it until now. You're showing your age boio 😅😝 Cheers for the backstory about you and your brother playing old games. And those old games are definitely harder than today's ones. Even starting them was something of a learning curve. DOS = conveniently inconvenient LOL. The layout of that Gigabyte case looks uncanny of the Coolermaster Elite 330. That case was used for my first games computer back in 2009. I reiterate, I got into computers VERY late. But better late than never hey. I had an Athlon X2 7750, 4GB DDR2 RAM, a 9400GT(I know, not a video card for any proper games haha), and a Sound Blaster Audigy 7.1, running on Windows Vista. Great PC and video fella 👍
@MarkHyde
@MarkHyde Жыл бұрын
Awesome to see your face Phil - been a sub from years ago - cool retro PC after having accumulated your knowledge. :)
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Cool, thanks!
@Mani-aX
@Mani-aX Жыл бұрын
That is ONE tricked out socket 7 setup, great video!
Жыл бұрын
Long time viewer of the channel. I have to say I highly appreciate you uploading videos frequently. My wife is the only one complaining, she says I spend too much time on your channel. Keep on the good work!
@noizzion6648
@noizzion6648 Жыл бұрын
Retro Masterpiece! In my Dos/w95/w98 retro pc I'm also using the fx5200 (128bit) and a Sound Blaster with a Pentium II.
@yoyoitsjoe
@yoyoitsjoe Жыл бұрын
Your DOS time machine is hands-down my favorite project and I took a strong liking to it from your 136-in-1 CPU video, so seeing this new video was a HUGE treat! In fact, it's what inspired me to pick up some retro hardware a couple of years ago so that I could get back into all the DOS gaming I grew up on as a little kid, and this project is such an ingenious way to have an authentic experience across multiple eras of DOS games without a massive hardware footprint. I've modeled my build heavily after yours, but with some differences and it's not quite final yet: - AWE64 Legacy and Gravis Ultrasound PnP Pro - Voodoo 3 3000 AGP (experimenting with this and a S3 Virge DX alongside a Voodoo 1) - Old school beige ATX tower complete with cone speaker for those *really* old DOS games that are still compatible - CRT monitor I don't have any MIDI modules yet, but I did manage to snag a license for Roland Sound Canvas VA before it migrated to Roland's cloud service, so I put that to use with your MIDI Emulator project. You have made it so easy to reexplore gaming on DOS and early Windows platforms with as little hardware as possible, and it has been a blast playing these games with the experience I wish I had those years ago. Thank you so much for your world class content!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@mOddEdLiKeHeLL
@mOddEdLiKeHeLL Жыл бұрын
I grew up in the 90's. My first computer was a Packard Bell tower with a Pentium 233MMX running windows 95. I have fond memories of it running shareware versions of doom and duke3D. My retro PC consists of fast hardware that's able to run win98se natively.
@patrik_x86
@patrik_x86 Жыл бұрын
Woke up not only to a new LGR video but Phils Computer Lab face reveal! It's going to be a good day
@retropcscotland4645
@retropcscotland4645 Жыл бұрын
You know I've been subbed to this dude for more years than I care to remember. Phil you handsome mug nice to put a face to the voice . I honestly thought you were talking hands all these years mate lol. Joking of course.
@prockrog5219
@prockrog5219 Жыл бұрын
Another great video Phil. So grateful for all you hard work! Seems we're about the same age. I started with an Amiga 500 (never liked the Commodore 64/128 much either), but I soon progressed to a 386 25 Mhz so I could fully enjoy strategy games like Civilization and Railroad Tycoon - and there's never been anything else than PCs for me after that!
@deejagers716
@deejagers716 Жыл бұрын
me to!
@Handheld_TECH
@Handheld_TECH Жыл бұрын
Danke Phil das ist wieder ein tolles Video :) Mein Pentium III System steht nun auch 👍
@mikboy018
@mikboy018 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I wouldn't have thought of that FX card for video, and I like that you can swap hard drives easily. One system I've been playing a lot of titles on lately is a restored IBM Aptiva E2U with a K6-2 (333MHz). I added a SB32 and connected it to my Athlon XP system with a Yamaha SW1000XG as a MIDI Synth. It has been great! Did my first stream with it last night. My Pentium III has an AWE 64 Gold with a SC-55 and Yamaha SW1000XG, and my 486 has a MT-32. I've gotten most of these systems up and running thanks to your site/videos!
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
I can't see the stream on your channel!
@mikboy018
@mikboy018 Жыл бұрын
@@philscomputerlab I moved over to twitch a few months back. Had a lot of friends that stream there, so I went that route after experimenting with both. twitch.tv/mikboy018
@ronyket
@ronyket Жыл бұрын
Great to finally see your face Phil!
@playtech7165
@playtech7165 Жыл бұрын
My first pc was a 486dx4, I had it when my brother bought a pentium 100, it was old when I got it. The 486 had no sound, no cd rom. Then I bought a "multimedia kit" as they were called, with cdrom and sound card. The oldest pc games I started with as a kid, as far as I can remember, were: Wolfenstein 3D, IndyCar Racing. Later I was able to get Doom, Terminal Velocity, Wacky Wheels, Sim City 2000, The Need for Speed, Duke Nukem 3D. That's when this pc started to be slow and I was able to acquire a pentium 200, I remember games like Quake, Screamer 2, Theme Hospital.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Awesome!
@stephanemignot100
@stephanemignot100 Жыл бұрын
I use a 2004 eMac and a real MT32, very versatile combination. OS9, X, DOSBox, ScummVM, source ports, Amiga etc... My favorite game is Frontier right now, great video!
@UncommonKnowledge587
@UncommonKnowledge587 Жыл бұрын
I used to game on an Amstrad CPC 464, when sometimes there was so little space on the cassette, there were only 3 notes for music. Good times 🥰
@lucasss02
@lucasss02 Жыл бұрын
Great video Phil, and very cool to finally be able to place your awesome accent. I always loved it but couldn't entirely place it.. impeccable Aussi English, with a tiny bit of somethin', haha. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and experience with the retro-tech community. It has been invaluable to my hobby.
@philscomputerlab
@philscomputerlab Жыл бұрын
Thanks! 😃
@screamengine
@screamengine Жыл бұрын
Wow Phil! You are much prettier than I expected! Hehe! Have a grand weekend. :)
@piecaruso97
@piecaruso97 Жыл бұрын
Nice to finally get to know you better, phil. Btw personally i'd pick a pentium 3 dos build because i am not really into the earlyer games and i want some good performance for heavier software like emulators (yes, there are emulators that runs on ms-dos).
@chu-icehugehard1820
@chu-icehugehard1820 Жыл бұрын
Nice Friday video Phil! A great respect for your passion on retrocomputing. Living in a country where computers were not common in homes until early 2000s, I grew up with Pentium M, ATI Radeon graphics and onboard AC'97 audio, but I'm more interested on the things on 90s to early 2000s computer books. That's where my fascination on retrocomputing comes from. Now I have a Core 2 Duo system with Intel 865 motherboard, ATI X800 XT graphics and Yamaha YMF724 sound card with integrated OPL3 and XG synth. I use it to play old games under Windows 2000 (however, Win98 does not work properly) and try old Linux distros. For old Macintosh, I have a Mac mini G4 with OS 9, and a PowerBook G4 with OS X 10.4. I'm planning for building a Pentium 4 system to play games under DOS and Windows 98.
@ericl1632
@ericl1632 Жыл бұрын
excelente video, muy prolijos tus armados y es bueno conocer la cara detras de la voz de los videos.saludos desde argentina.
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