Lashing in a Hob + Oven

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N Bundy Electrical

N Bundy Electrical

Жыл бұрын

How we installed a hob and oven with our little tips
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@contactjd
@contactjd Жыл бұрын
10:15 fit the switches in the top corner so the shelf can still be used for storage, some tins could fit there. The gap above is wasted space.
@robertburrows6612
@robertburrows6612 Жыл бұрын
I'm not fan of isolators in cupboards and wiring the appliance straight into them . My preferred methods is isolators above work tops and a 40 amp connect unit made for cookers but hat was the way I was taught many moons ago . But nick is quite correct. Regs does allow isolators inside cupboard and directly wired into them . Is heat resistant cable need the answer is no the outer casing of the oven is insulated from the rest of the oven and it barely gets warm. As I say give a 100 sparks the same job and your most probably get a 100 ways of doing the said job and they will all comply with regs . And a foot note you install all appliances according to the manufacturer instructions
@Tc-sp1hi
@Tc-sp1hi Жыл бұрын
I was hoping you were going to do a video like this. Thank you for all your content.
@davey6024
@davey6024 Жыл бұрын
Did an extension recently, installed a 6mm 32a for 7kw hob and a 2.5mm 20a for 4.1kw oven. Came back to 2nd fix and customer kicked off saying oven needed a 6mm supply as this is what was stated on website. Showed him the calc coming in at 17.8A and the 2.5mm factory flex on oven and he calmed down and it went ahead. Pain in the ass though.
@dangranet7621
@dangranet7621 Жыл бұрын
Just run 6s and charge more ! We should have a list of moany customers- like a check a customer list .
@alouisschafer7212
@alouisschafer7212 Жыл бұрын
That's why I keep my mouth shut unless I really know better 😅
@funky_junkie
@funky_junkie Жыл бұрын
Diversity in calculations for electric hobs and ovens
@davey6024
@davey6024 Жыл бұрын
@@funky_junkie Exactly, I don't thinkni have ever used all 4 plates on my induction at level 9 all at once. With double ovens does the top oven with the grill element have a separate element for the oven or does it use the grill element for the oven also? Damn it's 11pm and I'm debating on going the van right now and getting my clamp meter to see what my oven actually pulls.
@funky_junkie
@funky_junkie Жыл бұрын
@@davey6024 I have a similar set up on a single 6mm cable on 32 amp. Never had a trip and I use both oven and hob like no tomorrow. Where have I gone wrong lol
@xxmrksxx
@xxmrksxx Жыл бұрын
Thinking of future lads and lasses, fair play 👍
@nw5835
@nw5835 Жыл бұрын
Adam's quote for the day 'Do you want me to guide that in'.......................
@haydenuk02
@haydenuk02 Жыл бұрын
Cracking work and thanks for sharing this with us take care
@allahdittababu4802
@allahdittababu4802 Жыл бұрын
Hate doing these, cold tile floors and if your a big guy getting in those cabinets and screwing a nightmare ... but saying that better in cabinet than on the wall, great tip on keeping the cables long that really helps
@funky_junkie
@funky_junkie Жыл бұрын
The only sockets I tend to install inside kitchen cupboards but fixed to the wall is for the ignition on a gas hob and for the led lights wired to a FCU on 3amp but I'm gonna use a 1 amp fuse. 3 amp fcu is plenty for TVs and amplifiers. As it goes I might try the 1amp in my fcu for tv and amplifier.
@freddiepearson643
@freddiepearson643 Жыл бұрын
would you be able to add these on with a fused spur or will a whole new circuit with a new mcb/rcbo be needed for this sort of installation? thank you
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 3 ай бұрын
8:35 You say it's rarely turned off. Why is there a switch in front of the ovens in England? Isn't it enough to switch off the MCB in the fusebox?
@ColinRichardson
@ColinRichardson Жыл бұрын
10:15 I think I would have personally preferred one switch above the other.. It would use up less "shelf space" though realistically we are talking like 1 can worth of space ... but I wouldn't put anything above those switches, so it just becomes 'unused air space' so might as well put the other switch above.
@funky_junkie
@funky_junkie Жыл бұрын
I guess its floor boards or is it a solid floor and the 6mn cables rum downn the edge of the wall within safety zone? If this was the case then I feel it would be best to have an isolator above the worktop.
@richardredman3947
@richardredman3947 Жыл бұрын
Hiya sweetheart. Just from a kitchen fitter, save you a world of pain. Lay your drills flat. I was cringing with that drill with the holesaw on the oven. It's top heavy, slightest knock and them work tops are bolloxed. Maybe get your cool workmats out or double correx maybe... honestly I'm constantly bollocking sparks for it. The other is tools on steps with no floor protector down Just sharing. Not being rude x
@contactjd
@contactjd Жыл бұрын
Yes, I had a joiner come round who immediately placed their tools on my new tops! I guess some only learn the hard way, when they have to fork out for new tops...
@richardredman3947
@richardredman3947 Жыл бұрын
It's just a bit of complacency, we've all done it, and maybe got away with it. It happens when we're very busy, pulled from job to job. We end up disorganised and stuff scattered everywhere. I wasn't having a pop at Nick, just trying to save him from the potential world of pain. 👍
@tobysherring1369
@tobysherring1369 Жыл бұрын
What happened to diversity calcs? Even with future expansion, 2x6mm2 is overkill. 6mm2 for hob, 2.5 (or 4) for hob.
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 Жыл бұрын
Only issues with putting them isos flush with the shelf is that you can’t lift the shelf up a bit to get it out. Assuming they are still like that these days
@MrIbib
@MrIbib Жыл бұрын
I always prefer to use H07 for the final connection. It’s more flexible and I think easier to fish through holes etc. Also, I don’t like seeing T&E swinging in the breeze (not you will behind an oven, but I’ll know it’s there).
@supersparks9466
@supersparks9466 Жыл бұрын
Agree, I don’t use t&e into appliances only rubber h07.
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 Жыл бұрын
Nick only stocks 4 cable sizes/types 🤣
@NBundyElectrical
@NBundyElectrical Жыл бұрын
Fact
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 Жыл бұрын
@@NBundyElectrical And 2 are left in the unit 😄
@MrIbib
@MrIbib Жыл бұрын
@@AndyK.1 to be fair, beyond 1, 2.5, 4, and 6mm, you rarely need much more in 90% of domestic installs.
@alerighi
@alerighi Жыл бұрын
What is the point of isolator if they are not accessible? At that point if you want to turn off power just turn off the breaker at the fuseboard, these switches will be covered with stuff and never be used. Regulation for allowing them doesn't make sense, either they are required in accessible places or not required at all (generically requiring a means of isolation that could as well be the breaker itself in the fuse board, provided that that breaker only turns on only that appliance).
@Daniells1982
@Daniells1982 Жыл бұрын
Manufacturer's instructions will sometimes request local isolation. They sometime spec cable type too H05 or H07.
@stevethomas3406
@stevethomas3406 Жыл бұрын
Local isolation means exactly that and must be acceptable.... Your comments are correct 👍
@ecoomber
@ecoomber Жыл бұрын
The thumbnail gave me unrealistic expectations of what I would see in this video. :)
@Brian-vi3li
@Brian-vi3li Жыл бұрын
32A hob and a 9.5A oven Could you use same circuit 6sq on a 32a mcb ? All rings on hob would have to be on full and oven on max to reach total load of 41.5A
@Marco-mg9tv
@Marco-mg9tv Жыл бұрын
I’d have wired in in one circuit 4mm and used a dual outlet plate to supply two 45a switches. That’s ok up to about 16Kw total load on a 32A OCPD. I like to put the hob switch near to the hob above worktop I think with an induction hob when it all gets messy boiling over you should be able to hit the big switch rather than look for touch buttons on the hob. I’d use 2.5 or 4mm H07 from the outlet plate to the appliances
@MHALI-qv9yc
@MHALI-qv9yc 8 ай бұрын
noticed you connected both hob and cooker to the double pole switches and not to the connection unit on the wall. ?
@matthewfewings6023
@matthewfewings6023 Жыл бұрын
6mm to isolator above work top. Then to a cooker splitter and power both hob and cooker from the one splitter. 👍. Saves money and cable
@Edgariux111
@Edgariux111 4 ай бұрын
What kind of splitter?
@philcollins6498
@philcollins6498 Жыл бұрын
Lashin in 😳, & when did you start muscling in on Liverpool home turf ? 🤷‍♂️😜🤣🤣
@ryanfuller964
@ryanfuller964 Жыл бұрын
One thing to mention is the cutout for the hob. The edge wasnt protected with heat reflective aluminium tape to stop the worktop getting damaged from radiant heat.
@tomspencer5731
@tomspencer5731 Жыл бұрын
O really cheers pal 👍
@HSilver341
@HSilver341 Жыл бұрын
@@tomspencer5731 lol I’ve put thousands of hobs n never had a customer come back to me u didn’t protect my worktop aswell as you’ve burnt my surface
@kaivicker8778
@kaivicker8778 Жыл бұрын
No there was no foam seal fitted to hob either as this stops spillages getting under the hob as per manufacturers instructions lol
@funky_junkie
@funky_junkie Жыл бұрын
@@kaivicker8778 foam seal is most probably attached the the hob by manufacturer but I think its useless as foam tears easy.
@stevethomas3406
@stevethomas3406 Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of isolators at the back of a cupboard. I personally put them at the front of the cupboard so when it's full of kitchen stuff you still have easy access to the isolates. I come across stuff like that when the kitchen fitters have done the wiring.... Anything for the easiest. Just my opinion
@Romeworld95
@Romeworld95 Жыл бұрын
Well i might as well say it before more people do, you should use H07 for the hob 😳
@davidhunter295
@davidhunter295 Жыл бұрын
Should use heat resistant flex for hob not t and e. Great video tho mate
@davidhunter295
@davidhunter295 Жыл бұрын
Wasn't being funny. Watched ya videos since you started mate 👍
@NBundyElectrical
@NBundyElectrical Жыл бұрын
Didn’t think you were mate 👍 Thanks dude appreciate it
@davidhunter295
@davidhunter295 Жыл бұрын
@@NBundyElectrical top spark
@AndyK.1
@AndyK.1 Жыл бұрын
Can’t believe the CEF knew the history and still didn’t give you a good deal 🤣
@Mike_5
@Mike_5 Жыл бұрын
CEF have a huge database of people they hate!
@Mike_5
@Mike_5 Жыл бұрын
Oven manufacturers always like to make out they have a much much bigger load in Amps for some reason
@muzikman2008
@muzikman2008 Жыл бұрын
Covering their arses lol...
@daniellittle757
@daniellittle757 Жыл бұрын
Can I have the link for the group please
@NBundyElectrical
@NBundyElectrical Жыл бұрын
Check my community page on my channel dude
@Kevin-ip8uf
@Kevin-ip8uf Жыл бұрын
swell thumbnail. wouldn't that pic of adam go great engraved on a notepad?? 🤣
@NBundyElectrical
@NBundyElectrical Жыл бұрын
Lol that it would 😂😂
@3789gaz
@3789gaz Жыл бұрын
To this day I can't fathom why they don't file the sharp edges on oven cases, I mean how hard can it be to do that this day and age?! If you were born in Stoke, you'll always be a Stokey, duck! Inabit.
@thomasnoonan4171
@thomasnoonan4171 Жыл бұрын
Dam again 🤣
@HSilver341
@HSilver341 Жыл бұрын
isolators been in cupboards n on top of wall units for years much easily n less messy
@thomasnorton1690
@thomasnorton1690 Жыл бұрын
When will we have another van video
@NBundyElectrical
@NBundyElectrical Жыл бұрын
Next month I think mate. Just too busy to do the next stage
@craiga657
@craiga657 Жыл бұрын
8:52 probably not the best thing to say when a bloke is bent down in front of you.
@johnmotson5063
@johnmotson5063 Жыл бұрын
Quality not quantity nicholous
@bullhurley-uv8ys
@bullhurley-uv8ys Жыл бұрын
1 x 6mm is plenty, 2 x 6mms gives 30kw of cooking appliances😮 it aint gonna happen
@rustyj5092
@rustyj5092 Жыл бұрын
someone missed the point of first fix in that kitchen.......
@CompuWhizz
@CompuWhizz Жыл бұрын
First
@dangranet7621
@dangranet7621 Жыл бұрын
Eye bleedy.
@Mainly_Electrical
@Mainly_Electrical Жыл бұрын
Twin and earth to the oven and hob is just wrong
@roydowling2542
@roydowling2542 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@Mainly_Electrical
@Mainly_Electrical Жыл бұрын
@@roydowling2542 should be heat resistant flexible
@roydowling2542
@roydowling2542 Жыл бұрын
@@Mainly_Electrical what reg states that?
@robertburrows6612
@robertburrows6612 Жыл бұрын
Regs state you install according to the manufacturer instructions
@Mainly_Electrical
@Mainly_Electrical Жыл бұрын
@@roydowling2542 common sense states that
@handmadebyg264
@handmadebyg264 Жыл бұрын
So much easier with 6mm flex ( HO7RNF)) you can buy it by the meter
@adoughertycontracting7243
@adoughertycontracting7243 Жыл бұрын
Are you going to get 6mm h07 in the cooker cable clamp?
@handmadebyg264
@handmadebyg264 Жыл бұрын
@@adoughertycontracting7243 certainly do
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