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THE RULES ARE CONSISTENT! Jesus christ, this is such an uninformed discussion. I don't get how football fans don't actually bother to look at the facts of these kind of issues and just spout nonsense like it's the truth. City haven't faced a points deduction as it's an entirely different issue to the Forest and Everton issue. City's alleged transgression is financial doping - Everton and Forest's breaches were NOT doping related. In its simplest form, City have "allegedly" used their own Middle Eastern companies to sponsor City at hugely inflated sums in order to make it look as though City are earning huge money in sponsorships. The premier league are building a case to argue that these sponsorships were not made at market value. They can't just give them a points deduction when City's accounts are healthy - the league are pursuing this legally, trials of this magnitude take months to prepare. It will be for a Court to determine if City have over inflated these sponsorship deals. It's entirely different to Everton and Forest. It has nothing to do with the size of the clubs or that "City can afford top lawyers". Every club can afford the best legal Counsel in the land, which is why Everton and Forest have used the very best KCs in the country. What football fans CONTINUE to ignore, is that every club has to publish its accounts. This is the reason Everton and Forest got deductions. Their accounts clearly show the losses that go beyond the allowable losses. It's in black and white, the losses are there on the balance sheet. So by mereley publishing their accounts they've already breached the rules. It's the equivalent of having two defendants in murder trials. City are denying any involvement in the crime, and therefore the CPS must build a lengthy case and take City to trial. Everton on the other hand have been caught on CCTV bludgeoning the victim to death, they immediately pleaded guilty and therefore they were sent straight to sentencing as there was no requirement for trial. It's baffling how stupid people can be, thinking there's some kind of corruption targeting the smaller clubs.

Bit late to this one, Premier league have already said it’s not happening

9 minutes in Brian says "guys like Isak who ever heard of them?" "Unproven" lol wtf

The real problem is you can't let countries own teams. Even the richest person on the planet cant compete with an oil state. Abromovich set it off, but that Neymar transfer is why prices went crazy.

Kg acts like united don’t spend the most in the league 😂😂😂

FFP was created to protect the big clubs, and stop clubs like newcastle from doing what man city did. top clubs stay at the top, everyone else stay below. clubs like united got to spend pretty much however they wanted before ffp

I feel disgusted for Newcastle. They've clearly been targeted and these "new rules" seem tailored to hurt them. The fact they have to sell players now to make money and sign others is just a slap in the face to them. The FA or Premier league clearly don't want them muscling in and the corruption is clear as day

Honestly I love this squad it feel complete again I think when the spurs fan here it’s a complete circle and it compliments itself very well, Geordie has done well to build another good podcast squad because I didn’t think the last one could be replaced

FFP is about protecting the top 4 originally, so i think FFP needs to change, it makes it way to hard for any of the other clubs to compete with United, Liverpool, Arsenal and Chelsea financially.

Let newcastle run away with everything man, only proper fans left in the prem anyway

Big fan of the current recent panel of lads on this Pod.

"Newcastleade a mistake by buying players like Isak" 😅 in the 3 seasons since the takeover season 1 avoided a certain relegation, season 2 champions league, season 3 competing for 6th This clown would have us buying a load of average players which would probably have us lower down the table

realistically if u want the teams to become even you should allow the bottom teams to spend the most and the top teams to spend the least

Brian doesn’t understand in order to make changes there has to be a starting point/cut off from old procedures. No matter what moment in time this happens there will always be a moment in time where one gets cut off right before and one team snuck away with it right before. Unlucky for Newcastle, but these rules need to be made

I miss the live full stream shows.

The rules aggressively make clubs look at ways to increase revenue.... You've got to have a 1st class conveyor belt Academy.... You've got to invest heavy in your stadium capacity/ experience..... brand, overseas fan creation etc to boost revenue & transfer spend....

Thanks for the stalemate recommendation been looking for another betting app for a while 🤝

this line up is so much better than the old lot imho. just been pissing myself first at J Henderson, then at there's only one saudi arabia...: )

Totally agree about Villa and it hurts to say that being a Villa fan but we will not be aloud to for fill our potential in the next few years with financial constraints!

Everyone has known the Premier Leagues been a joke since 2010. They created this by their own negligence and greed. I hope nothing gets done and they created a 1 team league out of ignorance and arrogance.

they should have a luxury tax like the nba based on wages where if you pay above an amount you pay double the amount you spent over the limit and it is sent to the other clubs in the league. Also the idea there could be a big 10 forgets that everton use to be part of the "big 5" and someone else will fall in all this nonsense. also this could collapse if the price of oil hit all time lows or etc....

What I’ve been saying for a number of years. Yes a cap on wages is a start but also to calm down Man City you state a squad of 23 players can’t cost any more than £500m they already have 3-4 players worth £500m then it’ll allow the promoted teams to compete & values for players worth £1-20m “last day of transfer Arsenals squad is valued at £480m these are their potential players worth £20m & less” I know it sounds fantasy football but it’s the only option to make it competitive at the top. Look at F1 all teams have same car design, tyres, driver assistances, whose the best driver it’s not Hamilton.

As a long term solution after mentioning academy spending. You could do a nfl draft like spending cap - e.g. city finish first they’re academy spend is £0 Liverpool finishes 2nd it’s £10m and so on and so on that way that way it promotes youth setup and development in England (helping out national team hopefully) hinders top clubs from staying top for years and years and that way big clubs can still spend top money buying these talented youngsters when they’re older giving these smaller clubs a lot more to play with

End of the day you cant ask for strict regulations when teams are now 10 years plus into unregulated spending. Its like starting a race and some are 5m from the finish line but we all playing the same weather conditions so its "fair". If a club in the future ever does a Leicester and it all clicks for a season the "bigger" clubs then poach the talent and you need to somehow strike it lucky consistently to keep up. Regulations work when we all start at the same starting point thats impossible so amy rules are unfair.

Surely, the answer is as simple as a percentage based cap, where the teams at the bottom can (if they're able) spend 20% more... This would allow newly promoted teams to spend big, encourage investment in Championship teams, and allow the closing of the "gap" to City... The further down the table you finish the more you can spend... The higher up the table you finish, the more glory / trophies you get.

Just to make you guys aware, villa spent 119m in the 1st year of a 3 year cycle, 40m of which can be written off (something to do with the WSL) so although it’s still high and it falls out their budget for year 1 , villa don’t necessarily have to sell and funds can be raised in other ways

As a Chelsea fan the FA need to deal with Man City/Chelsea etc first BEFORE the end of season let alone bringing in this new financial rule a lot of teams will exploit. Stop going after teams with only a few charges and go after the main culprits and deal with THEM.

I feel like the fairest solution would be to set a blanket spending cap that applies to all teams. If you can afford to spend up to the cap, feel free. If you can’t, you can’t. But it stops teams big and small spending a ridiculous amount of money.

Loved the energy on this video

Simply throw a premiership transfers cap winners have 30 million to spend the lower u finish the more money your get to spend the teams that go up can spend the most because there need it sick of seeing top 6 spending 100+ it’s becoming boring

I think a transfer fee cap each window be fair say u only can spend 100 million per window and say max 300k on wages if that happened the prem be lot more open

Talks about Villa getting good money for Grealish and being able to invest in the squad....but forgets they only got good money because of Man City.

Player's wages and then you have another problem in agents fees cos agents are absolute shark's

The show is getting better each week again

it seems like a good way for the smaller clubs to make some money off the bigger clubs. that's usually how the luxury tax system works in the states. Say city pays 100 million in the tax and that money goes to all the other teams. it would help their bottom line which the smaller clubs need.

Lovely group of lads this

Absolutely 0 signs of intelligent life anywhere with this conversation

Wouldnt of changed a thing as teams in European competition have to meet ufea ffp rules also, just shows these lot no nowt

My view is that clubs should be allowed to spend what they want, you should reward ambition not punish it. Brighton have pocketed loads of that money for transfers whereas it should have been reinvested properly so they could push forward

Just have a spend cap for all teams to compete fairly

Realistically this is creeping towards change the rules so that city don’t have to face consequences I’m really going off football it’s so skewed towards the clubs at the top of the table on and off the pitch. Fed up

could do f1 budget style where spending is based off finish position so top 4 get a budget and top 6 then top 10 and so on could even reverse it so 16th-20th get the most

I really believe clubs need a limit on players squads at all levels. Man City have top players in lots of other countries and it simply shouldn't be allowed to happen or capped.

Tottenham have spent years building the stadium and creating so many revenue streams to put us in the position that we are in now, what have newcastle or any if the smaller clubs done to raise there revenue, ultimately thats what this is about, clubs cant lose 100s of millions a year anymore, if newcastle invested in infrastructure which according to some of the reports ive read doesnt count to FFP/PSR, then you can spend more on players

Tonali is a big name in Italy. Many AC Milan fans hated the move

Could the new rules made by the PL and FA be an effort to counter the European Super League that some of the big clubs on mainland Europe still want. So if the English clubs can keep outspending those traditional big clubs from mainland Europe, all the best players will keep coming to England. And therefore there will be more money in the PL than in other leagues because of the TV-and sponsordeals that are connected to having the best players/teams in a league. It's just an idea about trying to follow the money. 😉

Why they taking about the new rule change but none of them actually know the new rules they’re implementing

Man City haven’t broken FFP these clowns just scream 115 and don’t even know what the chargers are about 😂

This whole 115 charges taking longer whilst correct, could easily be condensed because a lot of the charges are for the same thing but in different years. You can then further condense them but taking the first 2-3 year period the allegations are for and decide if City are guilty of any charges during that period. If they are guilty of any of those charges, make that call and instantly everyone knows City are already guilty of some charges, then work on the next 2-3 year period and so on. Then if City know they are already found guilty of a few with more potentially incoming, they won’t be buying any players for a while knowing potentially there are some big charges on the way. Deal with things proactively instead of creating a cloud

3 of the top 4 have responsibly spent money (that other 1 being city) - so how can you say teams can’t compete. The teams that stupidly spend big money on players who don’t kick on are teams like Chelsea and United, and they’re dreadful.

The lad at 15 mins going on for like the 4th video about how good Monchi is and what he's done at Villa, he joined way after the summer window, can someone please tell him. Currently Monchi has shipped out some deadwood and bought Rogers from Middlesbrough and a young lad from Serbia in January, he's not transformed our team with his genius signings. If you're going to give credit out hand it to the right people. Lange was a much much bigger part of how this team has been built and now he's at Spurs, with their current team and Ange they could really push on next season now.

Rich clubs buy players from less rich teams and keep the money flowing around the system. You also have to have a system where new owners coming into clubs are able to “invest” in buying better players so you can compete at the level you want to compete at. The current rules put big brakes on this and therefore the current rules are anti-competitive and protect the traditional big teams.

Stop promoting betting sites Sandro is watching 😵

The Aston Villa point totally pops Brian's Argument

About the City situation.. they have to punish them or another team could just come along and do the same because they know the punishment won't be severe enough. Look what happened to Juventus. Did the Serie A care? Not a chance.

KG is absolutely spitting facts with regards to Roman Abramovic ruining the PL with his money and influence.

That arsenal fan is so against any other team breaking into the top 6 let’s all be honest,the new rules were designed to stop Newcastle from doing a Chelsea and a Man City,we all need a competitive premier league but it isn’t like that because we have. Our own super league in the premier league and that’s the cartel six.

29:34 would be smart to sell Bruno G instead of Isak then go out and get Matt O’Riley for £25m etc

How about a points deduction AND a fine? Surely that's the fairest way

Arsenal fan not wanting Newcastle to be able to spend freely, but at the same time rumored with buying players like Bruno & Isak from Newcastle 🤣

One thing i feel Brian ignores when he mention’s Newcastle having to sell players to keep up with ffp Is , Newcastle this season have been very disappointing, knocked out early in the ucl , no real cup run and likely to miss out on any European football next year That’s a lot of potential prize money they’ve missed out on , you can can’t expect / want to compete with the top club’s financially if you’re not backing it up on the pitch.

Anyone else notice they deleted all the old Kickoff videos? Rip prime Kickoff

Do these people seriously not know (after the countless times they’ve spoken on the topic) that PSR rules are literally voted on and passed by the CLUBS in the premier league? These clubs breaking the rules are fully aware of them and know they are breaking them!

Brian was the biggest Man City critic for years and now is crying because the PL won’t let Newcastle do the exact same thing he used to complain about.

Sky sports said it was out of the question as they need protect Man U Liverpool etc can’t have anyone braking the cartel

They should make a cap and a penalty for going over that gets distributed to the bottom 10 lowest spenders

If they just introduced a hard ceiling that you couldnt go over it would probably introduce fairness, a luxury tax just makes the FA money and doesnt actually make a level playing field

Newcastle should focus heavily on not letting good players go to prem teams. Forced to sell good players to keep the big 6 in power so don't help them by giving them those players.

Football should copy Ozzy Rules football transfer laws. Transfer fee caps and wage caps etc Where the bottom 5 teams have access to the top up-and-coming talent .... therefore the top 5 teams' talent (De Bruyner) etc retires .... Man City weakens and Sheff United strengthens .... therefore everyone has a chance of glory etc.... Maybe!!! That sounds good, however, this will never happen.

Everton had to sell richarlison at a discounted price to Tottenham and still broke the rule

The difference with Villa and Brighton vs Newcastle is both of their owners were allowed to pump £500m into their clubs with loans (that were written off) before they voted to close that door. They also benefitted from the linked businesses sponsoring before those rules were changed. The EPL is the only business consortium that actively restricts investment. That will only result in another league filling that gap to become a financial superpower.

So ironic that these lot are always talking about City spending, showing how we’re rent free in their heads.

Don't understand why there isn't a regulator in the prem...

Golden State Warriors are currently paying a massive luxury tax for overspending the salary cap

What is brian talking about that nobody knew everton were spending that kind of money?

wish this show would keep up to date, this system has already been outvoted

Newcastle have top talented squad, it’s rubbish to say that they have 3-5 world class players and the rest are championship players

I find it crazy that Arsenal goes under the radar with their spending. Over the last ten years arsenal has the fourth biggest transfer deficit in the world; beaten only by Chelsea, Man U and City. And their deficit isn’t that far behind those three either. Arsenal has been spending extremely poorly.

Isak and Guimares were already very well know players when Newcastle bought them. There is a reason each cost over 60 million. Other clubs were in for those players, but Newcastle spent more. I am not saying that they shouldn't have been able to spend, but Brian is being a bit misleading. Guimares in particular had been killing it for Lyon and was on many teams radar.

Brian says why should we sell our best players we've had them 2 mins, mate cause you don't make enough money. Having the richest owners doesn't mean anything, you need to make money to spend momey. Hypocitical

Fed up about hearing aboot New-Castle. Crying because they’re not being allowed to buy everyone else’s best players.

Haha Isak and Tonali are “60,70,80 million pound signings ” literally none of them cost 70 or 80 million.

Chelsea fans really think they were any different than City or Newcastle. The argument of 'we were playing European football before roman' . Well done mate. 😂😂 your point?

Lol, the Man City hate in this conversation 😂😂😂

Prem said this wont happen, well until they have to find Ctiy guilty. I hope it happens

brian using "businessman" when his club and city and chelsea previously have been bought and been paying for their transfers with STATE OIL FUNDS BY OIL STATES. IT IS AGAINST THE INTENT OF THE SPORT. THIS IS A STUPID ARGUMENT TO BRING FORWARD, YOU ARE STATE FUNDED.

All these people that say mancity should be charged and stripped of titles and villa does great with there money. Why not strip the teams the profit off them. Villa would be no where without the 100 mill of dirty money city spent on them.

who is the arse in the white jumper.............................................

Man Utd need this because ffp means they can’t spend and will fall further behind city Liverpool etc

For those fans who wants that Luxury tax and their clubs to spend as much as they want, I suggest: *Leave national, UEFA, FIFA tournaments with all your players you want to sigh. *Form Private Superleague and compete with each other.

Going on about how Newcastle have “done it too quickly” yet they don’t point out it was a season that LiVARpool, Manure and Spurs didn’t turn up. How can you blame us for that

Wasn't this poopood by the pl

Realistically there is nothing the premier league can do to punish the big 6 cos the clubs r more important than the league they will just leave and form a super league the big 6 will never be punished cos the prem would end without them

I think the market went crazy when Neymar went for 200+ Mil

The lack of homework done on these city charges is laughable. It's more like 11 charges, intentionally duplicated over X amount of years for the sole purpose of optics. This luxury tax is also a massive legal case waiting to happen...telling a business they cannot spend, on their own business lol, will never stand. NEVER.

KG cannot put his hand in the fire for United. The money made in football today comes mainly from sponsors and winning trophies. What trophies have United won in the last 15 years to be able to spend 1.5 billion?

If financial fair play rules were actually enforced and states couldnt own clubs norwich would be top of the leauge

punish city for the next few seasons then -10 points for the next 5 seasons

Newcastle would have to sell because they haven't performed to the level of their spending, the reason the Premier League want's to bring in a luxury tax is so Arsenal, Man Utd, Tottenham etc don't keep getting limited by FFP, they probably want City to get charged and then they want to change the rules afterwards so the big 6 can stay where they are and Man City won't have the revenue in the championship or whatever to disturb them while they spend it up in the Prem. This is probably why all the big 6 premier league clubs (City actually do want an independent regulator) don't want an independent regulator to stop them from changing the rules to suit themselves.