Thanks for doing this test, very interesting video - good work. Now to win the lotto and the Ribelle will be mine, mine I tell you!

3:30 I got a 2019 Tesla Long Range Model 3 and FINALLY took it on a road trip last month. I learned 3 things: 1) the more empty, the faster it charges, 2) there are places to Supercharge like every 60 miles or less on interstates (in the USA), and 3) even though I could drive 4 hours without needing to charge, I preferred to stop every hour. I never needed to buy a Long Range version!!! I should apply this lesson to my first Electric bike purchase. There are places to charge EVERWHERE too.

Another awseome vid! Thanks guys!

Great test! Glad to see you’ve got your license back. Was over those hills last Thursday, not quite as sunny!! Great to see new peeps out riding too!! Caught up with Neil M also, he said he’s going to get a bike this year, so there’s another!!

Thanks for the video Sam! Stefano from San Francisco had similar points, just configured mine yesterday with him. Excited for my new bike.

Nice video. I bet it feels good to get back out. The new riding gear looks nice too.

Great range. That EMCE drive is adding to that success too.

Really cool, thanks for sharing.

Im happy your back on the bike, smart idea to play it safe and not loose your license again. If you do decide to hit the twisties a little harder though we wont tell 😏. Look forward to more videos!

Thank you for this test in a beautiful country side 👍👍👍Energica are the best 👍👍👍

Super nice! Now I want one for myself even more!

Love it guys. With my TC MAX 3kwh battery with 3kw motor, I've learned heaps about efficiency

As always, excellent video. I slightly expected more from the Energica but your test is still very impressive. If you are curious, my girlfriend and I set out last weekend to ride from Flagstaff, AZ, USA through Sedona, Cottonwood and Jerome. I rode my 2021 Zero SRS (500 miles on odometer) and she rode the 2019 DSR (6,000 miles on odometer). The highway ranges in speed limit from 35 mph to 65mph in a few places - probably averaging 45-50 mph if we are being realistic. We rode very conservatively - eco mode the whole time just a little spirited in the twisty sections. At about the halfway point. We stopped to test out a charging station for 20 minutes where I got a 20% top off on the SRS and she got a 5% boost (using stock DSR onboard charger with adapter). I made it home with 4% to spare on the SRS and she had about 14%. The round trip was approximately 116 miles or about 180 km. The terrain is very hilly so I suspect that worked against me being both the heavier person and riding a bike that is 80 lbs heavier. It was extremely cold for the second leg of the trip riding home with temperature dropping to 42 degrees F (I think that's about 5 C).

Veery nice ride there and great vid as always. Do you have please any idea of average speed during the whole ride? I'm just curious hiw big part was highway, what speeds are you making. Over here in Europe we do even on country roads 100-110km/h legally. One fellow german said that average long distance ride speed with his Esse9+ (21kWh) is about 50km/h including charging. That seems a bit low to me.

Yesterday I tested a Zero S and an HD Livewire, while the first was disappointing on performance and options (but still fun), the second was really exciting (but expensive... One of the 2 demo bike with 2 000 km for 27 k), except when I mistakenly selected wet mode instead of sport. I booked a slot for the Energica Eva Ribelle in 2 weeks, they are going to change their demo with the newer model, so that's for sale for 15 500 €... I'll see, I hope none else gets first... if it's half as exciting as the Livewire (at almost half the price) I'm going to spend the rest of the day watching people riding my bike.

So awesome, you guys were missed! Would love for you to do a video sometime about what it took to import those bikes to NZ in terms of shipping cost, import duties, bureaucracy, etc.

You guys should try TG jump off at Pauatahanui for paekakari hill is a good twisty alt route now with the new motorway

Same all over. I have an electric scooter (Yeah, it's no Tesla or Energica) that states a 40 - 50 km range. That may be so if I had the scooter on the lowest settings, travelling at walking pace. But real world test has given me between 25 - 30 km. A great video nonetheless. And a great test. And those bike suits! Nice! You guys went all out.

Leanna also rides my Zero SR/S and because she's lighter (8 1/2 stone vs my 11 1/2) gets roughly 15-20% more range... On the same bike which wowed me. I think you may find the screen makes less difference than you think. Having more problems with my Zero btw, got loads of info for my long term owner's review and the warranty runs out in Oct so may be leaving electric bikes altogether... But... I have the Ribelle RS for a week in June, may be interesting.... Another great upload, thanks.

cheers mate hoping to get mine soon.. i lean towards 300km that is the sweet spot but 240km with screen is amazing a 20min stop every 1 to 2 hours is fine too

When someone asks "how far" I always "misunderstand" and say "oh I ride it to Tampa and stuff" (which is on the other side of Florida - I'm in Titusville) but that's because I love seeing their heads explode. I'd like a really long range slow charge bike, so I could ride somewhere, ride back, and charge overnight at home.

0:12 omg, I just bought a 2013 Nissan Leaf too, that's so weird to picture the Nissan battery inside a motorcycle, maybe if I tried to drive the Leaf on two wheels, it would be the same?

Hey, nice Video again. I got a used rebelle from 2021 in may. Did about 3k kilometers now and I really like it. 🙂 My experience is that I can always do at least 150km on one charge. You can easily do more if you use less power but that does also mean less fun. 😉 I like to recharge more often than you need to keep the full performance (I've been riding a R1 for many years, so I'm quite spoiled to have enough power all the time). 😉 Go on and greatings from germany. 🙋‍♂

Good to see you legal again, Sam! To answer your question first, shorter range and faster charging any day. That's a reason I went for Charge Tank over Power Tank in the days of Zero. Ahh, remember those? 😁 When I borrowed the EVA Ribelle from English Electric Motor Company back in November and took it back, Alec asked me what I thought the bike's range was. I said I'd pretty much managed 100 miles at maximum UK motorway speed (70 mph), and based on the other bits of riding off those fastest roads, I guestimated around 140 miles on mixed roads. He reckoned about the same. However, since I got my EVA Ribelle on Thursday, and as I've had my GP mounted, I've noticed that like on other vehicles, the calibration on the speedo is out and is actually reading around 10% above the actual speed, so to actually achieve 70 mph in reality, I need to be doing 77 mph on the speedo. That means that my figures from November were probably a little too generous and I was probably doing around 64 mph rather than 70 on the motorways. On that basis, I reckon that 200 km (125 miles) is probably what I'd expect to achieve. Looking forward to doing more trips and finding out for myself.

I noticed a similar efficiency gain on my FXS last fall when I got a windscreen!

Following my experience with the Hyundai Ioniq I would want a longer range and I would be prepared to wait longer at each stop to charge. It would need to be DC charging compatible. I took the Sur Ron Storm Bee out for a test and ended up pushing it back to the shop after it ran out of charge. I actually passed a charging station while I was on the return leg. 200km range seems pretty good to me, and a bit of wind protection adding to the range is pretty cool.

Great !!!

Hi, Thanks a lot for a great video. Btw that 10% range difference could be also caused by different height, weight and riding style of the rider. Btw have tested the new Zero SRS 2024? Would have been nice to see a test :)

Hey man, great video. I strongly believe it's not only the windscreen that make the difference, also the riders weight. What is your weight difference? Also were you guys sticking to each others while riding or you were pushing and waiting later?

Hey Big Dog I have a 2021 Eva Ribelle, I can't figure out how to DC fast charge, the timer keeps timing out! Any advice?

Bikes sound sweet. Love them. Huge battery!

Do you know of any videos/websites comparing the Eva Ribelle to the SRF/S on a track?

Thanks Sam, the range test is greatly desired. So, to answer your question I want the big batter slow charge. Li-ion love slow charging. My desire is a crusier/bagger format electric bike with a huge battery, big windscreen and hard "bags".

That short-range quick charge sounds cool as hell. If there's stations in enough spots and I don't have to worry about lighting the pump on fire I can just plug my bike in, smoke a cigarette, and I'm ready to go

Chris Kleps I have followed you for a year or so. I just bought a 2022 Zero DS with a 7.2 Kw battery. it weighs about 350#, which is important to me. The 14.4 Kw model was too heavy! I added the charge tank, which will charge the battery to 100% in about 50 minutes. I fitted a windscreen and an LED headlight bulb. My range is 50-60 miles depending on speed. The DS requires a different mindset to tour with, but it seems to be a well-balanced, well-made bike that I can use level 2 chargers to tour with.

Hey Sam! Looking at getting my first bike soon. Would you recommend getting a smaller cc gas bike before switching to an energica?

I like the bit about the range test.

I’d have these over a gas bike any day of the week! What great roads around south NZ! New hairstyle but same cool people 😉 I think you might need to get a screen for long rides & tours me thinks. It doesn’t detract from the looks & wont make your bikes look the same because your is the RS! If I could just afford one, I’d have the EVA Ribelle & join you for rides🙌

On your faster charging v range question: for most countries I say smaller battery (handling) and range, with more regular charging but not for so long, e.g. 100-150kms ride then 15-20 mins charge time, so coffee time if you're quick and a wee. Most people could do with a break (arse, bladder, old bones, concentration levels, being sociable) after this time anyway. But in NZ and other areas that are rural and don't have a very dense charging network, 200k would make a real difference to get to those spots that are far away from chargers, and also in case the charger you ideally need has a modern electric car plugged in (so 45mins+ wait time), you have the range to go to the next one. And if you do consequently have a longer charge to do on your bike - over 20 mins, you can fairly easily plan it around brekkie or lunch stops.

hey sam, we are really interesting in a energica in 2022, my wife mentioned that you had really good experience with them compared to others, how did you get the bikes? was it as simple as contacting them? we are up near Levin and know these roads well .

Ya I definitely got to upgrade from my zero s to one of these

Went out today on the Ribelle, was at 98%, did 60 miles, range estimator said it still had 47 miles left when I got back so pretty accurate and I have the bags and wind screen and I'm a heavy rider.

Another great video Sam, but I wouldn't call that a long ride; I'd call it a medium one. Also, to be properly scientific about the screen's effect you should either test the range riding each other's bikes, or you should swap the screen across to your own bike and do it again. I suspect that your body is less aerodynamic than Jen's! BTW, FWIW, I had a spin on an Eva Ribelle at the Fully Charged Live show in Farnborough over the weekend and was really impressed by its performance and handling. Also had a spin on the hub-drive Finnish Verge - felt less weird to ride than it looks! Finally, remember, BMW's CevoPlus electric maxiscooter weighs 275kg and is still a lot of fun, and Suzuki's AN650 Burgman maxiscooter weighs about the same when fuelled up. PNB

Thanks Samwise! Range vs Charging on Energica models is the crossroads for sure. I love 15-17min charging of my Eva107, but only get an average 110-120km range (with 10% left, depending on roads). A Ribelle would likely double the range, but also double that charging time due to thermal cutback and newer, conservative software. The difference is COMFORT & INFRASTRUCTURE. It's more natural to ride around 200kms on a road bike b4 having a break & with more BEV on the road you can skip more chargers. But being stuck at one for 30-45min while on a longer road trip stinks. They both have advantages and disadvantages, but for shorter distances and commutes the Ribelle wins with more range and lighter weight :)

my wife and I both ride and would love to catch up sometime, we would also love to look at the bikes

Interesting 200km on the Energica. Im on my 3rd Zero. 2019 DSR 14.3, 2020 SRF 14.3 now a 2022 SRF premium 15.6. The DSR was good for 90 miles (144 km) the 2020 SRF was 80 miles (128 km) so that gives you an idea of my riding style I could reduce them by 30% by going nuts but sanity prevails. My 2022 SRF does 125 miles (201 km) and I dont hang about. Im going to upgrade to the 17.3 kWh battery so Im expecting 140 miles (225 km). I focus my rides on country back lanes as the sun rises but theres a mix of fast A roads in there and the bikes get nailed. Im impressed with the 2022 SRF, for my use case in silence listening to the wildlife in 90 miles loops back home before the world wakes up and ruins it all the 2022 SRF is perfect. Congratulations on the Tesla my "classic" RWD P85 now 8 years old 125,000 UK miles. Tesla just the best car decision ever, electric power the most responsive satisfying vehicles.

I have an Energica Ego 13.4 kWh bike, and I feel ok without the bigger battery since it charges a little bit faster and doesn't overheat when DC fast charging as much. I think in order to get me to upgrade, I'd like to see a bike with a liquid cooled battery and ~2C charging.

Hej Hello, i would love to change to elektric, saving cash like crazy but it takes so long..... one question... i know weight also affect range, and maybe more then the windscreen. What is the weight diference between your motorcycle with you on it. and your girfriends bike driving her motorcycle? Greetings ... Telhma

what exactly is shorter range than what we have now??? I want 200 miles with a passenger on a bike that looks like an Electra Glide that supports L1, L2, and DCFC . Battery tech is getting close and right now I don't need any bike that has no luggage; panniers; and some wind protections. Right now they are not available in my Southeastern US state... they are in the next state over but I am a bit loathe to buy a bike I cannot service locally

I’m a bit curious about the range of your old Energica?

Makes sense to me. I have a screen on mine and cruising around 110km/hr (indicated) working out to about 60-70km/hr averages on a trip I usually see about the same consumption as on your screenless bike, works out to about 185km per charge which is satisfyingly close to the advertised range. I think "how far does it go?" is pretty much the second big question, usually after "is that electric?".

currently i would rather pick the smaller battery and fast charge but in future i would probably switch to long range and slow charge cus the battery energy density probably goes up alot so i don't think the weight is an issue then.

Great video! I would love to have an Energica but they aren't for sale in Canada yet. I could take a quick trip to New England in the US and pick one up but I called my insurance company and they said they couldn't insure it if it's not for sale in Canada... lame. Love your channel though eventually Energica will get here I'm sure.

thanks for this, 200klms is actually better than i thought. im seriously considering this bike now. just got to see how much trade in australianelectricmotorco will give on my africa twin :P on a sise note its interesting to see the dealer here has 246klms as max range of ribelle compared to 420klm on official website. much more realistic.

Interesting to see the efficiency numbers! I wonder how much the consumption would increase with saddle bags on the bikes? Can you test this 😀

I can confirm, that unless you break speed limits the range is about 180 / 200km. Good informative video as aways Sam!

I'm with you on the short range fast charge, but mostly because most places I go that require a vehicle are no more than a hour away from me maximum. If I did travel 200km/125mi I think I'd really want the larger battery though assuming I couldn't just charge up at a Tesla "pump" since they're every where here (other charge stations still don't have as much of a presence,) but don't they still charge super slow for anything but an actual Tesla, which makes them sort of a non-factor?

how IS the wind constantly socking you in the chest and face, now that you have my bike? lol. as compared to the Ego I mean. I look forward to owning a 2021+ Ego (however far off that will be since I just bought my Eva last year)

Great video great bike real life distances I am now going to test drive same as your partners bike soon and order with screen bags etc 👍

yay i cought up with your videos....these twisty mountain roads look very nice to drive...although i prolly would drive on the wrong part of the track...as not used to sdriving on the left side :P

Really interesting. An electric bike in India Ultraviolette F77, Users claim it can do 250 KM on a single charge (obviously at a slower pace). It has a 10.7 kWh battery, No CSS port though :(

rimtex is the go to place to meet when going over the tukas

Easy. Big 21.5 with DCFC for me. 🔋⚡️ More route choices and choosing when to stop and charge. Smaller batteries limit route choices and force the need for more stops. Big battery every time no doubt about it.

I've made a calculation same years ago. Comparing my petrol bikes' thirst and efficiency with that of an electric bike. I you ride a middle class bike in a sporty but legal way it will drink about 1 l per 20 km/s in real life mixed use When one translates this into electric consumption at electric efficiency one basically comes to a power consumption of slightly more then 0,1 Kw per km. Which your test confirms. So my ideal electric bike will be one with 20 KW in battery power on aboard at the lowest possible weight. The emerging new battery technology will lead to a sort of Energica with a 200 kg weight within 5 to 10 years. As soon as such bikes become affordable the electric motorcycle will reach it's true potential at last.

As to your question I think I’d like to cheat and say the lighter bike / faster charge with a streamlined shell. I feel like the bike weight would limit my enjoyment more than stopping to charge.

I believe the RS Ribelle is slightly less efficient as it has fewer teeth to get faster acceleration, but the motor is having to spin faster and uses more power to maintain the same speed as the non RS model. Plus the windscreen of course, and weight differences perhaps?

My rule of thumb for now 10 years on ZERO is 1Wh/km per km/h AVERAGE you ride. Yes it's a linear relationship and i know that wind effect is non linear, but it still really kelp. If i ride 80km/h average, i get 80wh/km

What’s 200km in American? Do you have to consider the strength of the yen? Kidding. 124 real world miles is damn good.

Why not both? I know it's not a bike, but I fall in love with Aptera, probably the first actual SEV on the market, not just a gimmick like the Prius Hybrid. The consumption is about 7kWh/100km, a PV system up to 1kWp that replenish up to 60km a day in the best condition, has a battery from 25 to 100kWh, and a charging speed of 150kW. I've ordered the one with 60kWh, 1kW of PV, and it's 3WD (it's a tricycle 😅), so I'll have a big battery, great charging speed, and a car of about 1.000kg, so not so heavy.

Long range slow charge or short range quick charge? If those extremes were my only option it'd be the lighter short range bike if supported by a good network of chargers everywhere. I can see it now, fun chats with other rider at rider stations while stretching the legs and having a can coffee from the vending machine.

Somebody got a new jacket. Which as everyone knows is mandatory with a new bike. Yeah you gotta pick up a wind screen for yours too. It's a good proportion and not like a battle shield on the front of the bike. Nice area basically in your backyard.

Wait did you account for the weight difference between you and Jen? Does that have an effect on power use?

Man I want an emotorcycle so bad. But I live 80miles up in the mountains from both cities I work in. That’s about 60miles of pure hill climbing up 3000-4000ft(depends on which city I’m leaving). I don’t think even 124miles(200km)in range is enough to get me home on one charge. Coming down is no problem but I’d never make it home haha. Guess I gotta give up until the ranges increase somehow.

I lean towards longer range than faster charging, but they eventually have to go hand in hand.

I have a 2021 Eva Ribelle. I get about 115miles of mixed riding. If I ride above 85mph though my range drops to about 90miles. I’m 170lb and have the wind screen. Outside temperature as well as wind direction has meaningful impact on range. I have to correct for wind/temp when I plan my rides.

I think I would agree with you. A small battery, quick charge time sounds good to me. I'm looking at the new MINI SE with a battery range of 114 miles and a 30 minute charge time to ~80% at the fast charging station. Then just during a normal stop at the grocery I could charge up to nearly full for free, while grabbing some stuff at the market. 🤗

Was it her wind screen or her weight that made her have more range left or is it both?

4:00 hilarious!

Shorter range (within reasons), fast charging. Daily, you do not need all the range. Its lighter. Cheaper. And you still needs some stops on trips anyway. Greetings from Norway. ☺️

where can i buy one?

I get about the same range as you, but I'm 6'3", 190 pounds, don't tuck, with handle bar risers and have a windscreen. I also have the old motor. Fun times.

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Please tell me how you lost your license?

To confirm if it’s the screen that helps aero you should swap bikes for a ride. It might be more likely Jen is just smaller and lighter, and that may be enough to alter range by 10%

Between this and planes I’m pretty sure I’ve got two hyper expensive hobbies I wanna get into lol. Any advice for someone looking to get into it? I feel like it’s gonna be years before I can realistically be in a spot to own anything even half the price of this lol.

I rather have a bigger battery and longer range longer charge times besides Energica you app you can set up what percentage you want your battery to go up to so it can balance your battery. I know at least you can change your battery on the app percentage you want to charge up to. Also it is nice to have the option to charge your battery at home with this motorcycle and it isn't extra like the zero and has better range acceleration and look to the bike & charging time. It isn't for everyone but for someone who loves electric this is for me.

Bro we definitely blow through charge in the twisties!

200km is 124 Miles. For the people in the U.S.A, Liberia and Myanmar.

You know that seems like a great bike but that name will be very hard for people to remember. But 200km is a fantastic range. What is the price if you don't mind. PS great video.

Product idea: compressed air powered generator for emergencies at filling stations. :)

I'd rather have the longer range with a slower charge, because maybe I stop for lunch and charge up but it's better than having to stop riding every half an hour to charge. The thing with batteries is: charging speed comes down to the 'C' charging rating of the battery. Think of the C rating as a multiplier on your battery pack size. As the size of the pack goes up, the charging rate also goes up. Cells with a higher C rating can charge faster but cost more. So a larger battery is also a faster-to-charge and cheaper battery. Science, eh?

Temperature please

I would love to see a proper electric sport touring bike with wind protection that is designed with aerodynamics in mind. I see lots of naked electric bikes. But that makes for very dirty air with a rider. Also a lot of electric bikes appear to be tuned for torque. I'd rather see a powertrain tuned for better mid-high end performance/efficiency. That way you would get better realistic ranges. As for the question of charging speed vs. range. I'm in-between. The sweet spot is ~2 hours of riding with ~20mins of charging. Most of the group riding I have done have typically followed this pattern and I think it's possible with today's EV tech.

Nice comparison. In my experience a windscreen does nothing. Could be Jen's height of weight difference doing the magic here. Next time swap bikes to proof I'm wrong (or not) 😁

That’s crazyyyy!!!! Wow EV Bikes are just getting better and better. One day I’ll get one… One day ☝️….

If they are mutually exclusive, then faster charging will always win in my book. It doesn't matter how big your battery is, if it takes hours to recharge then you're gonna get stuck sooner or later. But with fast charging you can be back on the road in minutes no matter what. But the real answer is that *ALL* EVs need both the biggest batteries and fastest charging we can stuff into them in order to be truly capable of doing anything we need them to. And the truth is that bigger battery packs can charge faster without stressing individual cells as much, so big battery + fast charging is nothing but win. Also, the weight penalty, which is the one and only down side of a bigger battery pack, is very much outweighed by all the advantages. Having a light bike is a lot of fun, but only for a short time. And as battery tech evolves, the mass penalty will be less and less of an issue.

Being electrician. I love the concept and idea and alternative that these vehicles offer. But at the same time I feel like this industry has a bit of a scam going on. For example if you had put down a deposit for a roadster 200,000 $ back in 2017 And instead invested in Tesla stock. You would have $4 million right now. On a car they haven’t even delivered. I feel like the only company that kind of got the electric vehicle right was Ford with the lightning. It’s the only company using an existing design to keep the cost low for the end consumer. So that there’s not a crazy amount of start up costs associated with this revolutionary Wallet opening designs ;) ;)

400 K is probably doable in Eco-mode. Speed = killing the range, so max 90 Km/h does the trick I guess (but I prefer rain mode when I want to get as much as I can from one charge).

530 lb bike?! is that right? wow, I need to work my way up to a bike that heavy - I'm a total noob

I'd rather have short range, quicker charge bike. There's so many charging stations around here, especially J1772 ports which I use for my Zero SRF. If an EV bike could go 80 miles and then stop and charge in 10 minutes for another 80 miles of range, that's far more beneficial and convenient to me than going 200 miles and then charging for 3 hours.