HAHAHAH step one “Avoid affairs.” It was so obvious it was funny

Her googling Scott Peterson's mistress and "Scott Peterson mistress book deal" was very telling... She's extremely self centered

Naturally It hurts when a spouse is cheating on us. it also should hurt morally when we are cheating with a married individual!

I am glad to hear Dr. Grande express the first option: Avoid affairs. Not only is this good clinical advise, its great all around advise. Not only should someone be afraid their partner might do something violent to their spouse, but they are also in danger of the spouse doing something violent towards them.

I think both of them were emotionally immature. The fact that Nichol’s and Chris’s parents swooped in immediately to defend them speaks to why they got into this mess to begin with.

What Scott Peterson did was horrible. But at least the baby did not see it coming, and did not witness his mother getting killed. This one was worse. Amber Frye had way more honesty and class than NK. At least she had the decency to go to the police and tell them what she knew.

I listened to her interview with the police and she definitely has a lot of narcissistic traits and some anti-social traits. When talking about the fact that the wife and girls was missing she said she was going to be known as the woman who had the affair with the guy who killed his family. Also when she was asked if she knew about the pregnancy she kept denying it but then the police found out she had been cyberstalking the wife so she lied there. She also said that she wondered if Chris had been lying about the pregnancy then “what else was he lying about?”, but didn’t show any empathy for the wife or girls. She also told police she first didn’t know he was married but then they discovered that it was disclosed in the couple of first emails so that shows lack of morals. So lying, lack of empathy, and anti social behavior (secrets, engaging in office romance, and having affair) it sounds like she has plenty of questionable judgement and behavior if you ask me.

She told him she didnt like kids and wanted the “better things in life” ie wealth, fancy cars, etc. She was a perfect storm in his simple narcissist brain.

Affairs are avoidable... but to avoid affairs, one must have integrity. Avoid affairs.. very obvious... ha ha ha.. made me laugh. Thank you

Why doesn’t it come up much the fact that she was looking them up online a year before ..... she knew exactly what she was doing , she planned the relationship long before it began. She wanted Shanann’ s life.

I think some of the attraction for the married man is to escape, at least emotionally, from his life with his family. His wife is associated with paying the bills, doing the dishes and all the other obligations that weigh on him. The mistress is associated with freedom, excitement, and the thrill of doing something forbidden. His wife also *knows” him - she’s not going to fall for the lies he wants to tell himself: that he’s more like James Bond than Archie Bunker. (I have a friend who says it’s taken her 30 years to understand one man, why would she want to start from scratch? 🤣)

Just watched this and your first video on the case. Subscribed! So glad you specifically addressed adultery. There is a reason that every spiritual teaching, throughout time, classifies adultery as a sin. The ruin and devastation it brings about is soul crushing. IOW, it brings sadness, unhappiness, trauma, anxiety, guilt, mistrust, etc, all of which are anti productive for a healthy human life and soul. The rampant degeneracy of our society has gotten to the point where adultery is almost accepted as normal and is shrugged off. It's not and shouldn't be. It's spiritual rot. Couple all that with personality disorders and we get a case like Chris Watts. Anyone who is engaged in adultery, either as the cheating married person or a single person involved with someone else's spouse, take heed. In addition to wreaking havoc on other people's lives, your unchecked base passions and selfishness may lead to outcomes you could never imagine.

She was stalking them a year before she and Chris even started talking.

I love your voice Dr. Grande. It’s so calm and peaceful. I think listening to you is curing my anxiety ☺️

Very good advice. Don't do affairs. They cause so much pain for so many people. The children pay the heaviest price. Utopia is very short lived; then you are back to square one. Thanks Dr Grande. Very interesting as always.

Just found out the Cervi 319 was torn down by the land owners. Great decision.

She researched Scott Peterson's girlfriend's book deal? That's a big tip-off to me that she knew exactly what she was doing.

Avoid affairs. Two words full of wisdom. Thank you for the video Dr. Grande!

As if having an affair isn’t bad enough, having an affair with a psychopath and/or narcissist is worse. Yikes! 😬

That one dislike is from Nichol😹

In my opinion, it is best to avoid any type of close relationships with the opposite sex when you are married. I believe that many people who end up in workplace affairs think that just being close friends is fine and I think sometimes they really believe that they can avoid crossing that line, but end up in an affair anyways. Im not saying to completely avoid anyone of the opposite sex, but keep that red line in the distance because it's too easy for people to walk right next to it, trip, and fall over it, and once it's been crossed, it is too easy for people to cross it again. People often get desensitized to the guilt and shame.

The most interesting thing about her was the audio recording of her in police interrogation room. I listened to it and her behavior was off putting.she was trying to show sadness but I mostly got stress and self worry.

I really wonder how she will live the rest of her life. She is clearly disliked here in Colorado . Also it seems so wrong she is in “Witness Protection”. for having no integrity

I have only a cursory knowledge of this case but I think one of the compelling parts of this case are what a superficially normal person is capable of doing. I think it’s unusual that someone capable of such violence doesn’t have a lengthy history of violence or at least previous dx of a personality disorder.

Good analysis Dr. Grande. And although not directly guilty for the murders, she had a part in this, an influence. A shrewd mistress manipulates to get what she needs from an infatuated married man, who is thinking only with his...well, not with his brain to say the least. She seems to have so many personality disorders that analyzing her will take weeks.

I think the fact that she was thinking of getting a book deal and making a financial gain off the back of this situation is probably why she is in a Witness Program. That isnt narcissistic to me, thats just plain evil as well.

I think there's a difficult situation with misogyny in this case. NK was very immature, not too empathic, looking after her own interests, but it was Chris Watts who murdered his pregnant wife and children. Patriarchy doesn't serve anyone. This is a great video Dr Grande.

Avoid affairs...keeping it 100% real. Love your videos.

The fact that she showed absolutely no empathy whatsoever for a pregnant woman and her girls who were murdered and proof of her looking for some kind of payday after this is beyond all comprehension. There are no words.

she is no where near as innocent as she makes herself out to be

You should do a video on the “gangstalking” phenomena. Thanks. Love your videos.

I love your videos! You get right to the point!

She has a personality like Jodi Arias

You just know she watched this! Lol

When did she google Marry your mistress? And wedding dresses? Because she knew she was then the Mistress . Also when did she look up Amber Frys book?

I believe that there’s a component of this situation that is often overlooked, and I think it’s important that we look at this detail in depth. It is my understanding that Chris was financially upside down, that he was feeling extreme pressure from this financial situation, and I believe that this pressure was one of his motivations for doing what he did. Not a good reason, there is no good reason to do what he did! I think Chris wanted to relieve himself of his financial burdens and start a new life. Chris knew that his financial situation would only get worse if he divorced his wife, and in his mind he thought he would actually get away with his crimes. Now he’s a man of God (holding back the urge to throw up) and believes he will get out of prison on good behavior or get a new trial and be found not guilty. I got news for ya, Chris, you’re going to die in prison, if not from old age from another inmate with nothing to lose. Child killers and murderers of unborn children are often beaten and/or killed in prison. He can find God all he wants to, society will NEVER forgive him, nor will he ever see a day of freedom again. Should have received the death penalty, but, I digress...

What I've always said to women who told me they were having an affair is that, even if their grandest fantasy with the guy comes true, if he's cheating on his wife now, chances are he'd cheat on them if they became his wife too. The obvious solution might be to have an open relationship and I really wish I knew how that was done practically. I don't if some of us are just old-school or whether there's a component of personality involved but, despite the rationality of this, I have never been personally able to deal with such a thing and so I don't know what to tell anyone else. The solution I've come to, at least for now, is to avoid romantic relationships in the first place and that includes casual sex since I personally feel too awkward for that and I always seem to get attached, which precipitates the entire problem.

I think she was trying to make herself sound and look youthful on purpose to contrast with shannan who dresses up and wears makeup and spends money on nice things. She was trying hard to seem low maintenance and down to earth to appeal to chris. In one of her interviews she said how she told chris that she doesnt spend a lot of money to decorate her house and she beleives strongly “its not material things that make a house a home. Its the energy and love u put into it “ and how he just fell into her lap and gave a sigh of relief and said how shes so different. This speech to him about money being not necessary to make a happy home was very intentional and another example of her mind games and manipulation. She knew they had financial problems. And as the mistress she had to come up with a way to differentiate herself since shes not the mother of his kids. Thats what Conniving mistresses like this do. They come up with their own angle to make themself seem “special” and “unique”. Her angle was being fun,down to earth, non chalant, carefree, liked to workout,slutty in the bedroom, a guys girl (hence taking him to the car museum drag racing etc.) she was trying hard to be the whole package and her facebook stalking of shannan and seeing how she lived helped her come up with this strategy to differentiate herself completely from his wife and mother of his kids and make him feel like shes special. She knew what she was doing. And i really feel like every single thing she said to him throughout their relationship was to manipulate his simplistic mind into thinking there was something special about her. She didnt cook and she didnt have his kids. She had to come up with her own upper hand. Then the simple minded cheating spouse (chris) thinks to themself “wow ur so different than my wife” and it feels like an escape for him becauae she is purposely playing the cards to seem special and unique to him.

Thank you Dr. Grande for touching on this subject matter that is difficult to go through, if you are the one being cheated on. This was such a horrible case. I have to wonder if Nichol carries any guilt because of what Chris did to his family?

I agree with you Dr Todd... Don't have an affair! If something feels that it's missing from our lives, either get some therapy, alone or as a couple... Or leave the relationship independently (not because you're motivated by a new relationship), and spend time on inner healing and growth 💙💙💙

It's not an option for some people to avoid an affair!? Wow. I literally cannot understand why anyone would get married and then have an affair. Maybe I'm just naïve, but what's the point? And the whole Chris Watts story makes my head feel like a lead balloon by now. Its emotionally too much. I wish I were as chill as you, Dr Grande. Thank you. 👍🌹

As always, love your videos 👍🤩. Thank you!

I love how straight forward his explanations are. It’s put in a way that i can comprehend

Dr.Grande, you’re a great asset to the KZfaq world. Very soothing to our senses, and the analyst with the most common sense... Gracias!!!

Thank you for your insight Dr Grande. This case deeply saddens me!

its about the thrill of the chase! or the thrill of being the one he chooses, or the thrill of winning (which is ridiculous) I had a coworker who (this may sound ridiculous) WANTED my husband, not because she didn't have one of her own w her own children but because she had/has issues (what those issues are I don't know) Its likely that Nichol had/has similar issues. Its unlikely that Chris was the best lover or best choice. She simply wanted what she couldn't have.

Hi Dr Grande, I'm an undergrad psychology student in Australia and I'm in the middle of binging all your videos. I was wondering if you would do a video on Brooke Skylar Richardson, the enmeshed relationship she seemed to have with her mother and what (personality?) disorders someone with her symptoms might have? Thanks for the fascinating content. - Tess. :)

Great video. Amazing analysis and great wisdom from you.

What about us single folks? We dont want affairs. We want intimacy and not the selfish kind. Reciprosity.is the music of the soul.

Your videos are awesome I have watched several of them and I appreciate your open mindedness and intelligence tremendously

She might have been surprised but she was NOT discussed! In her interview she was so relaxed and almost giddy. I’d have been a basket case!

You are always right on, thank you Dr. Grande👍

Thank you, Dr Grande! I'm laughing so heard about the "seek counseling tip", but there's truth in it, bc talking to a psychologist/psychiatrist might help a lot to get a better understanding about the own feelings. Also great explanation about NK minimalizing her role in the affair - of course she felt guilty for deadlining him (giving an ultimatum) - but I don't see her killing. (& No, I don't have any interest to discuss this exhausting topic again, it's so draining to communicate with all the "die hard" NK haters).

My family always said, never get involved in another’s family, ie affairs, because it ends in prison and death.

Just what I was going to write and say that I in the evenings can pick a clip from Dr Grandes channel to hear the voice and interesting way you build up things or break down through such great knowledge and interest and personal being passionate about human behaviours! And I feel so relaxed to listen to it all! You are a great KZfaqPerson and the subjects often very interesting!! thanks for your time you put into letting the viewers to let know and yes be very calm and warm and thoughtful🙏🏻🌸⭐️👏🏼🎧🤩👏🏼🙏🏻🌻🌻🌻

Hey dr. Grande, I love your videos.

OMG I have time to watch Dr. Grande finally and this AWESOME video comes out I’m so happy ok I go listen now

I find the psychology behind the Chris Watts case simply fascinating!

Good video. The only thing I would say is left out would be more of an admonishing to people about how not only being involved in but also even ending any affair is not risk free and is unlikely to turn out well. A lot of times the rejected affair partner can blackmail and tell the spouse or other people who know you what happened anyways. Then the damaging secret gets out and still causes destruction. This is yet another of many reasons not to get involved with an affair.

Thank you so much for the professional analysis.... Great job. We are seeing more and more of these crimes, with similar dynamics occurring, as devastating and shocking as they are, the reality is they are becoming the norm, and that, is even more frightening!!! The idea or thought that we are not safe in the sanctity of our own home, under the watch of whom is supposed to be our protector...... It's telling of the times we are living in. If there is anything positive that can come from this, would be to learn from these cases, and create awareness, so that Shanann, Nico, Bella and CeCe's deaths not be in vein, and help save lives instead! With that said, trust no one, but God is our best bet!!! It's a super frightening world we live in!!!

Just found your page and subscribed. I am a RN and have ALWAYS been interested in forensic psychology. I LOVE trying to figure out why these sick murderers and cohorts do what they do.

I’m interested to know if a female with the same level of education that you have may look at this differently because of their difference in experiences and just general intuition. Thank you very much for your vids! It’s great hearing your factual interpretation on things. :)

Spot on again! 💙💙💙

LOVE your videos!!! so interesting! btw - it's funny how some people commenting here seem to have a lot more knowledge in diagnostics than any psychologist or psychiatrist and they also seem to know a lot more than the police ever did lol.

Dr Grande, Thank you for covering this “topic”

Affairs are incredibly sick. Stop hurting people you love. Just leave them it hurts them less. Selfish.

Dear Dr. Grande, we unfortunately see a good percentage of homicides instead of divorces among pastors and/ or people of certain denominations, high powered professionals that do not want to split their assets in half or people hiring to kill a spouse for the insurance. It's not that uncommon. It is very sad but happens more than we care to admit This case still breaks my heart. I have a hard time trying to understand what Chris was thinking and how much Nichol "pushed " him with an ultimatum so that he ended up killing his entire family. In KZfaq unmasking Nichol series, we see that the relationship was going on longer than she admitted . In addition Nichol was looking up Shanann and Chris since 2017.

Great video. Thank you 😊

Great analysis

Well done.❤️

Can you do a video on the idea of the human “soul”? Why do people believe that they have souls, and believe in religious stories without having real evidence? I’d love to hear your thoughts on the truth about these things.

Nk is not in witness protection. That is a rumor. She is still in Co and going by her middle name.

Great analysis. Something weird I read in a book about this case is that Nichol Kessinger googled Chris and Shanann Watts 9 months before this happened. That made me curious.

Is love your analysis on the Stephanie Lazarus interrogation!!

@ 7:15 YUCK. That's maximum dirt-baggery. I'm pretty convinced the concept of marriage is complete garbage at this point. It's good to come to this conclusion now... I have 3 daughters who might avoid the charade entirely.

Dr. Grande, Would love to hear your opinion on Brooke Richardson.

It is a really simple answer but it's very true. AVOID affairs peeps 👍💯Great advice though that if u must get 3rd party unbiased counselling 💟

I am glad you mentioned that the gf may be in the witness protection program, I voiced that once on here and was told they could do that. I think that is why he pled guiltily so she would not have to testify against him. Thanks for the vid.

Hi Dr Todd Grande. This was a very informative video. I wish l knew this information !!! Both parties are wrong to have the affair !!! Affairs say it all...people get desperate and do crime... Would have been easier to separate from family,wife etc, so there wouldn't have been any killings, to have the affair between CW & NK ??? I Don't incarriage affairs !!! My marriage broken down because of an affair... The whole situation is a mess... I'm struggling to get a divorce,because my ex married the mistress without divorcing me !!! Narc's would never go to a counsellor... Affairs never work out,fuelled by lust,money,jealously,and pure narcissist behaviour !!! Thanks Dr Todd Grande.

What do you think of Gerta Thunberg?

I wish you'd look at the youtuber Onision. It sure seems like some of his behaviors check a few boxes for antisocial or narcissistic personality disorder. Like an inflated sense of self, being manipulative and vengeful.

I think the most worrying acpect of this case is that the husband was not abusive & appeared to love his wife & children (although ok neglected his wife towards the end) this to me is what's really unsettling about this scenario.

It would be Interesting if you could make a video about why certain individuals are attracted to dangerous people such as Serial Killers.

Yes, I don't think Nichol is guilty either. She's just guilty of having an affair.

Dr Grande you should check out Mary Marlowe here on KZfaq, she has a lot of theories and speculations that the girl from Anadarko is in fact involved in the murders, that Chris didn't pull it off by himself.

I really think people who cheat will cheat again they mostly don’t murder their spouse you probably need a perfect storm for that to happen!

In less than 10min of this video, my faith in humanity, integrity, relationship just drops to below zero.

I think she got lied to by CW, and when she realized what he was really like, she wanted distance from him for many reasons! He led her to believe he was in an in-house divorce and she encouraged him to make a go of it with his wife.

Finally! Im #1

Someone get this man a podcast

As always, you have opened my thought process. Just understanding all of the if’s. I wish for you to have the opportunity to visit with Chris. To study, learn, and help him to understand who is was and who he could become. Maybe, with help he could be learning tool for everyone, maybe with if this could happen many things could be taught. The more we learn the more help we can share.

I really liked this video(like most of your other videos) . If you are interested and/or if you can find enough information about the incident i think it would be interstinf if you can discuss the Nicholas Ninnow case which occured in South Africa, last year. A 22 year old man, supposedly diagnosed with bipolar disorder few years earlier, who have been consuming alcohol and perhaps other drugs, raped a 7 year old in a family resturant's toliet. The mother discovered the incident, and a video was recorded shortly after the incident(while waiting for the policr to arrive) in which he can claim he is innocent (although the mother of the child found him in the act). He then claimed that since he has bipolar disorder he is not fit to stand trial, however, after evaluation the court decided he is. He then pleaded guilty in the trial he claimed that shortly after starting to rape the girl he realized what he was doing was wrong and stopped, or was about to stop when the mother found them. Perhaps it is also significant that he was engaged and his 19 year old fiance at that time, was 6 month pregnant. I don't know if you would be able to find enough information, as it did occur in another country, but i have seen a few youtubers report on this case. Is there certain mental illnesses that makes it more likely to commit sexual crimes, is bipolar disorder one of them? Or is it perhaps possible for drugs to intefere with medication used for bipolar disorder? Or is it possible for the drugs itself to change a persons behaviour in such a manner? Or is this incident unrelated to his bipolar disorder? Some, especially comments on these youtube videos reporting on the case, Seems to believe racisms was the cause, and that it is a hate crime since the man is white and the child is black. What is your opinion on that? I think hearing your thoughts on this case, or just in general on rape/sexual crimes/sexual crimes against children will be interesting, and i look foward to your future videos. (this is also known as the dros rape - Dros being the name of the family resturant at which it occured).

What you have said makes a lot of sense . I hope N K has learnt a lesson from this and not mess with married men .

I never hear mention of how incredible masculine this woman was. Chris Watts’ mother was also very masculine. Shannan was not masculine. People will discuss “controlling “ women and they will describe Shannan as “controlling “ which may or may not be true. I don’t believe Chris Watts was lusting after a control freak but that, Chris Watts wanted a masculine woman. Poor Shannan was a pregnant, feminine, mommy type. Nicole was very mannish….

Men with kids who lie about the state of the relationship is a very personal topic for me. It hit home that a man I was with 8 yrs, then we had twins...and then right before our kids turned 1...found out he was in love with a coworker. Hmm... Similar right? Similar acts also. He was losing weight, got his teeth done with a gap he had, he had a car damaged in a flood and he was determined to go buy a new car one day and pushed for it all the time. So, Nicole Googled him and Shannan and saw and stalked Facebook for months before and in video surveillance there are clearly 2 people walking around putting the body in the truck and the girls. A slender shorter person with tighter fitting jeans on and then Chris. It's so obvious she helped... Likely even mentioned how it would be great if he'd leave...

You'd love my sister, this is her cycle of behaviour before & after she has slept with someone who is in a relationship: She'll phone me up, to tell me that she is sleeping with someone else's partner (male or female) & that she knows the person she is sleeping with, is in a relationship. Weeks later, my sister will call me to tell me that the partner of the person my sister has slept with & the person she has slept with are both angry with her & my sister will tell me she doesn't understand why they are angry with her, she hasn't hurt anyone, she doesn't understand what she has done that is wrong & that she feels she hasn't hurt either the partner of the person she has slept with or the person she has slept with. Then she'll demand my support & when I tell her I can't give her my support as I have been cheated on myself, she snaps & calls me all sorts of nasty names. Is my sister a narcissist &/or greedy? Am I right to not support her, when she is hurting someone else?

If one is a narcissist, wouldn’t one feel on some level that it is sort of awe inspiring that a man would eliminate is whole family “ for you” when actually he was doing it for himself? Gross.

She's a complicated one. I read somewhere she is bi-polar. When the investigators were questioning her, she played it like she was a down to earth girl, bragged about her thrift-store dresses and her Goodwill furniture, that she had her life together and she was not a material girl. But one of her first Google searches was "How much money did Amber Heard make on her book deal".

I like this doctor. To the point & very intelligent insight!

There is a possibility that Niclole Kessinger had watched this video, a scenario that gives me goose bump