Nissan GT-R Track Pack v Porsche 997 Turbo S - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS

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The Drive

The Drive

12 жыл бұрын

It's been raining in England for the past 6 weeks, so this is a damp test. The GT-R Track Pack seems a bit half-hearted and, on-paper, the 997 Turbo S is the closest rival. I went to an evening track event at Brands hatch to discover the differences/ work out if the Track pack is worth the extra cash.

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@priceoffreedom9030
@priceoffreedom9030 7 жыл бұрын
These two cars look so great together.........dont know why people limit their mindsets to "either this or that"
@priceoffreedom9030
@priceoffreedom9030 7 жыл бұрын
***** True, but if there is someone out there who could afford to, then I think anyone is capable of affording both these cars as well, even if it might take a few years of working hard. I feel if someone is able to afford a Nissan GTR and its maintainance and upkeep as well, then they can figure out how to up their income to fit in the Porsche somewhere down the line as well. Maybe thats just my way of thinking...
@alexandertony2475
@alexandertony2475 7 жыл бұрын
Price of Freedom nah we could afford a gtr but never that porsche way too expensive
@jvleep
@jvleep 12 жыл бұрын
Chris, there are dozens of online "road test" shows with hosts that can't put a car into a controlled slide if their life depended on it. YOU are the only one who has mastered hooligan driving while effectively conveying the actual experience to your viewers, an unprecedented talent. Your track test of GT3 RS vs. M3 GTS vs. C63 AMG was pure excitement, period. You know what to do, keep the tires smoking!
@Tr3zn3r
@Tr3zn3r 8 жыл бұрын
side note... you can have the camber and toe set to whatever you want on any newer GT-R. Doesn't matter which model you get
@1997TL1000
@1997TL1000 9 жыл бұрын
Dear Harris Monkey. Please disregard the comments about your drifting cars at insane speeds and having a good time. I for one subscribed to your channel because you actually can drive and have fun doing it. Please don't change for haters they didn't get you into cars or on Drive in the first place, and will eventually talk crap after you get booted for being watered down. Do you bro, do you and let the haters ride coach, on the hate train that they can't get off. Your better than 99% of the auto hacks on the planet, don't let some keyboard warrior get you down.
@Kyle-nr6nm
@Kyle-nr6nm Жыл бұрын
2023 Harris Monkey is a bigger LEGEND
@dominic0917
@dominic0917 12 жыл бұрын
Calvin, your drifts at the end of videos are what really bring out differences between the cars, and it sure as hell is entertaining, don't let youtube comments sway your love of drifting, they're just jealous they can't do it like you. Keep at what you're doing.
@maynardmccarthy5088
@maynardmccarthy5088 4 жыл бұрын
Have always enjoyed listening and watching this bloke. A Master of his craft.
@ncarnaiz
@ncarnaiz 12 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the great review... Waiting for the next one :) Regards from Madrid!
@Shinigami920
@Shinigami920 12 жыл бұрын
NOOO CHRIS DON'T CHANGE! Your previous videos are much more vivid, emotional, I love it when you push the cars, skid about (you have some beautiful car control btw) and overall your so called "immaturity" adds this unique flavour to your videos!
@kpopRC
@kpopRC 12 жыл бұрын
totally! click the ads if you want to support drive. the problem is how little people know about video production. quality like this isn't easy or cheap.
@SirNetel
@SirNetel 12 жыл бұрын
I need more & longer CHoC! I'm (getting) quite addicted to these vids.
@snake0sena
@snake0sena 12 жыл бұрын
Chris you deserve far more fame then any of the top gear presenters! You actually have a talent in motoring journalism!
@Tousanx
@Tousanx 12 жыл бұрын
No Chirs I never tired of GTR comparisons. Keep them coming.
@druco77
@druco77 12 жыл бұрын
How can we get bored with GT3 videos, it's a masterpiece. And please, drive as you please, you're videos have always been amazing and that drifting is part of the excitement. Those cars are made to be used well, not to go to the grocery store.
@powderhund14
@powderhund14 12 жыл бұрын
im staring to get tired of commenting on how awesome chris is at reviewing cars... im addicted to this drive channel!!!!!!
@gavranarh
@gavranarh 12 жыл бұрын
Nice video, as a mature member of your audience I really enjoy your work being more sober from time to time and less monkeying around. Keep doing what you're doing and keep it honest, as long as it's genuine it'll be good.
@speedacademydave
@speedacademydave 12 жыл бұрын
MOAR SIDEWAYZ!!! :-) Chris, don't let the peanut gallery discourage you from your gift as a hoon. Not many reviewers can do what you do in a car, and although I'm a racer myself and greatly value seeing lap times and some "serious" laps without all the sliding, I also enjoy seeing you drift because it does say a lot about the balance of the chassis and the car's general ability to put a smile on your face.
@RSXk2
@RSXk2 11 жыл бұрын
Both are amazing cars... love the turbo s though
@thomaselli01
@thomaselli01 12 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't want to see you do otherwise! Still the best driver/reviews on the net... Keep doing what u do, nobody can even touch your level of driving/talking combination!
@forestmusicforanimals
@forestmusicforanimals 11 жыл бұрын
Chris, you actually made me smile. The last few words about preferring a 997 Turbo with a manual shift. I own one, have done for 3 years. I love it too. May just squeeze a few dollars out of the wallet and get the ECU done. Great job by the way, your commentary is entertaining and informative. Thanks M
@svtweston
@svtweston 12 жыл бұрын
Great video! Chris please just do what you want to to do, we watch these videos because we are fans of you. That being said more slides more GT3's!
@ku22in
@ku22in 12 жыл бұрын
This better be the last video you don't drift like a mad man in. Your drift reviews are my FAVORITE part!!!
@lolliepants
@lolliepants 12 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this immensely. Serious cars, in real world venues, with insightful and interesting opinions as ever, Plus close-ups of that lovely Arai too. "Track pack" engineered by Nissan's PR dept? Interesting (accidental?) comparisons of pace with other cars on track too.
@Jeff26
@Jeff26 12 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know about this Chris Harris vid. feels like Christmas morning!
@tejas1205
@tejas1205 11 жыл бұрын
Your profile pic is epic. Really fooled me for a second there.
@Cellcycle01
@Cellcycle01 11 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Chris, I salute you for delivering the very car reviews the world needs today!
@ryanchenoweth5673
@ryanchenoweth5673 6 жыл бұрын
Love your work man! Unless people have driven one on a track they really shouldn't be allowed to comment on here or anywhere 😔😔😔
@pabauza
@pabauza 12 жыл бұрын
As always, outstanding Chris!
@fmcatex
@fmcatex 12 жыл бұрын
This is a damn fine show...love it!
@ashtaron14
@ashtaron14 12 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy your videos! Keep it up! I have a question though, What's your take on the Difference between A Powerslide and a Drift? I'm thinking the latter makes more smoke and is provoked a tad earlier (set up before the corner)
@hunterlock16
@hunterlock16 12 жыл бұрын
This is the only channel on youtube that i actually like to ook at the comments on. No one is bashing the other car with stupid ass remarks, no one is commenting with "ferary iz da bom". Only intelligent and productive comments. I love this channel.
@VietApple
@VietApple 12 жыл бұрын
as always , needs to be longer, soo good!
@LUNATIC75
@LUNATIC75 12 жыл бұрын
For me, Leo and Chris are the core of 'drive'. Great stuff.
@IceWaterInc
@IceWaterInc 12 жыл бұрын
great video as always chris
@69mankini
@69mankini 12 жыл бұрын
I love your videos!
@sherman3211
@sherman3211 11 жыл бұрын
You are right man, everyone has to agree with you. You also define what a "real" driver is. Thank god for people like you to tell the rest of us how to enjoy our cars.
@rosscads
@rosscads 12 жыл бұрын
Awesomesauce as always Mr Harris! But the audio is a bit funny this week. The mic is picking up your voice very clearly but none of that sweet engine noise. Something to tweak for next week perhaps?
@neurra
@neurra 11 жыл бұрын
Brilliant review Chris
@mykehyslop198
@mykehyslop198 Жыл бұрын
I took my R35 and Evo X on a track day.The R35 was brilliant,the Evo's brakes overheated and faded badly.
@GTRuppsala
@GTRuppsala 11 жыл бұрын
incredible cars, good review :) Interesting saying in the end: I don't take either of these..., - I rather take the older Porsche Turbo, manual with bucket seats...
@JacanaProductions
@JacanaProductions 12 жыл бұрын
Another cracking video, thanks Chris.
@DVDA83
@DVDA83 12 жыл бұрын
Great job, Chris. DRIVE, maybe crank up the mic on the engine a bit. I'd love to hear the wail of the Turbo S and the vacuum-like suction of the GT-R :-).
@saucyboy8
@saucyboy8 12 жыл бұрын
As always a great vid by Chris ; )
@TwinTurbo997
@TwinTurbo997 12 жыл бұрын
Please, show us a full onboard lap of the turbo S, with commentaries on how to attack the different bends!
@eeeen321
@eeeen321 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome video... I don't mind the "drifting" Chris is often doing, but I won't complain if he is carving an apex either, both are FINE BY ME! Loving the track comparison
@thebossisheretostay
@thebossisheretostay 12 жыл бұрын
Mizuno-san has always said that he will constantly evolve the GT-R. Even if its a bit better thats a huge success and to be honest it is an engineering feet to one up the previous iteration. Therefore, marketing excercise or slightly pointless? maybe, but worth it, yes to those who care as much as Mizuno-san does. Fantastic video as always. Wednesday is the new weekend.
@TheRoggan123
@TheRoggan123 11 жыл бұрын
Great review as always! I was actually hoping to see some 911 Turbo drifting with Chris and then he goes all nice and tidy...
@GazderVarun
@GazderVarun 11 жыл бұрын
Hey Chris , do what you do best.... thrash the cars to the limits of their performance , its what makes you....you. its what makes it more enjoyable to see.. Cars are meant to be passionately driven and people who can't understand that ...are rather sad. so dont let anyone tell you otherwise. your brilliant with your car reviews and I look forward to your videos the most on Drive. Cheers! God
@stevewashere100
@stevewashere100 11 жыл бұрын
Great review :)
@77rxpharmacy
@77rxpharmacy 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your opinion.
@tdkpaul
@tdkpaul 12 жыл бұрын
i love the "behind the helmet" cam!
@Jasonweckard
@Jasonweckard 12 жыл бұрын
Very Chill and Very Informative Video.
@Shockwav3Z
@Shockwav3Z 9 жыл бұрын
Overall whats a better car, 997 or GTR?
@DeadNightLife
@DeadNightLife 12 жыл бұрын
great review Chris I have to say I agree with your statement about the GT-R track. Anyone who would buy that just doesn't know what it mean to build your own.
@pdublt3d
@pdublt3d 12 жыл бұрын
Awesome as always Chris! Such a shame your relationship with Ferrari has perhaps, cost us some variation in the cars you're driving. But, still great fun from start to finish.
@Hwoarang121
@Hwoarang121 10 жыл бұрын
I will definitely choose Nissan GTR. I love this car and Japanese cars in general.
@Thanju
@Thanju 12 жыл бұрын
mOnKey never mind the comments - every halfway capable car enthusiast *knows* that drifting is the most fun! Keep the good stuff coming, great job!
@michaelcheng22
@michaelcheng22 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply! Hmm, I don't think it's a rolex submariner though because the hour markers on the submariner are circles, and his doesn't have circles.
@Justdrivethere
@Justdrivethere 12 жыл бұрын
even without the hooniganism, still a great video! Chris just shows he can be serious and still entertaining!
@fretingtopolice
@fretingtopolice 9 жыл бұрын
Porsche held on to the rear engine idea and everyone thought it was crazy Including me ,But it paid off ,Four wheel drive and steering fixes everything ,And its practical its got back seats and if you do not use theme it gives you "UBER" gernan pun Luggage space ,And the boxer engine makes its weight lower than any front mount ,even a subaru with a boxer has its engine mounted higher
@PhotoArtBrussels
@PhotoArtBrussels 12 жыл бұрын
Great video ... Love both cars (... and have one of them). The GTR was developed and made to be a competitor to the Porsche Turbo, so a good match in cars to compare and test. They are very different and that is OK. Each is was it is, and they are great ... both of them.
@silverbullet1979
@silverbullet1979 12 жыл бұрын
both cars lost to their standard counterparts, haha... love the review Chris, good opinion as well...
@rogersroger1
@rogersroger1 10 жыл бұрын
Hi mate! First car : Lancia HF 2; Swift GTI 3; Slk Kompressor 4; Clio RS and then boring stuff Quattro, CDI, TDI...etc... The one with best memorys...The Lancia... Cheers Mate! and spot on !
@Gairsy08
@Gairsy08 12 жыл бұрын
great vid keep the good work chris
@JulioArreaga
@JulioArreaga 12 жыл бұрын
Chris DO NOT listen to people complaining that you drift too much and drive "sensibly".. By all means, indulge in bad behavior. A lot of people can drive a car purposefully and set fast lap times, and yes a lot of people can drift well too, but the it is a heck of a lot more interesting to see cars at the limit going sideways. Maybe somewhere in between will please both extremes? Great video nonetheless. Thank you for what you do Chris.
@CarToneHK
@CarToneHK 12 жыл бұрын
btw, I want that DRIVE t-shirt Where do I get it?
@nellyphare9846
@nellyphare9846 8 жыл бұрын
He should have put the Porsche against the Nismo same price of both cars ?
@flacjacket
@flacjacket 8 жыл бұрын
The Nismo wasn't out yet when this video was made.
@princerazor
@princerazor 11 жыл бұрын
i love your drifts!
@carsaregood911
@carsaregood911 12 жыл бұрын
I'm not sick and tired of no commercials ^_^
@FronkG
@FronkG 10 жыл бұрын
I cant seems to hear to engine + exhaust voice when Chris driving the 911 turbo S. Am i too highhh
@christosswc
@christosswc 12 жыл бұрын
So if you turn the GTR in the corner somehow you just open up the taps and let the smart diffs figure it out. So why is'he slightly oversteering on every corner exit in the GTR? And if it's not down to feathering the throttle but down to the computers sorting it out is there anything he can do to avoid that annoying slight corner exit oversteer all the time?
@dimos47ki7
@dimos47ki7 11 жыл бұрын
i agree, it tests all kinds of problems cars have, but aren't these problems indicators of reliability too? and autobild magazine presents it as a reliability report too. it indicates numbers of malfunctions on each model
@Stichting-AAP
@Stichting-AAP 10 жыл бұрын
I drove em both! (ofcourse I didn't, but everybody on youtube has) I think they are both by far not as good as the brand new Dacia Duster. (will be available from the 1st of November) It actually has 3 petrol options and Diesel. The GTR only has 1 engine option (with or without any) and the same goes for the 911. Besides the duster has a grippy 4wd system as well..
@x3roluv
@x3roluv 12 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity, why do they use the turning signal in a track? I noticed this in some other track videos as well.
@TheBigBlue19
@TheBigBlue19 12 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know what does the tube coming out of Chris' helmet do? I'm thinking it's acting like an air snorkel?
@ChrisPatterson1986
@ChrisPatterson1986 11 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris is the kind of guy you'd like to be able to call your mate. I like the fact that he doesn't hide the fact that he 'at least' takes notice of comments on youtube.
@randomocityvideos
@randomocityvideos 10 жыл бұрын
I don't know if any of you can help me...but I will soon have the opportunity to drive one of these two cars; either the GT-R(no track pack) or the 997 Turbo. I'm driving the car around a track and am not buying it, so that said, which would be the most exciting to drive around a track?
@TravellerBrianN
@TravellerBrianN 10 жыл бұрын
I've never driven a GTR, but I bought a 997 Turbo with a manual box. I just did my n-th track day in it just 2 weeks ago. It's difficult to manage the turbos though, so depends how you like to drive.
@DonSWG
@DonSWG 10 жыл бұрын
I own a 2015 GT-R and have driven the 997 Turbo. I would definitely go with the GT-R. People who say that the car has no soul have never driven a GT-R.
@ImadOFlayyan
@ImadOFlayyan 11 жыл бұрын
man dont even bother yourself with what youtuber's say , if you like drifiting then drift each and every car you want ! all of them haters wish they are in your place Chris , you are doing a great job man , keep it up !! However that GTR had an accident or something happened to the right front bumber next to the head light i guess ! Ohh god can't wait for the new generation turbo and turbo S !!! By the way was that a pdk transmission on the turbo s or just a normal tiptronic ??
@bollwerkman
@bollwerkman 11 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris is the man for proper journalism when it comes to cars!
@cammyammy
@cammyammy 12 жыл бұрын
Chris Harris strikes again! Great video. If I have one critisism; Id perhaps like to see some less exotic cars like Golf gti's and whatnot for us commoners :-)
@kn7671
@kn7671 12 жыл бұрын
Awesone video, I so want that job...
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 10 жыл бұрын
Came for the comments by raging fanboys on both sides - was not disappointing.
@ai_university
@ai_university 9 жыл бұрын
I came for idiots who don't know how to spell/use proper grammar, and, it seems, I am not to be disappointed.
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 жыл бұрын
TheHonestCactus Care to educate me on my grammar and spelling mistakes?
@ai_university
@ai_university 9 жыл бұрын
Foremost, you're missing a noun in your fragment. Additionally, your usage of " - was not disappointing." is incorrect, you should have either said ", I was not disappointed." or ", this was not disappointing."
@Beer_Dad1975
@Beer_Dad1975 9 жыл бұрын
TheHonestCactus I see, so I used informal language on KZfaq... hmm... and what was my spelling mistake?
@99names16
@99names16 9 жыл бұрын
Matthew Sharpe Dude it is so funny when others try and show their dominance by pointing out peoples grammatical errors. I didn't realize this was a resume. I don't take KZfaq too seriously. "Your comment has a grammatical error and so you are a lesser person than I in every way". "the point you are trying to make in your comment means nothing because you said your when you should have said You're, am I right guys? I mean who does this guy think he is..am I right? Now please give me a thumbs up and like me, please"...
@MrAirsoft808
@MrAirsoft808 11 жыл бұрын
That used to be the case back in the 60's and 70's, but today a live axle is not as bad as it seems. The GT500 comes from the factory with a panhard bar and a torque arm to keep the axle planted, which actually makes it very comprehensive on a road course, and helps it put down power well. Also, it's not THAT bad on the bumps, its certainly not as good as an IRS. I know this because I drive an 02 Mustang GT and I road race it. :)
@lilguydoingit
@lilguydoingit 12 жыл бұрын
Why is the front bumper running away from the car at 6:00 ?
@malmoeoe
@malmoeoe 11 жыл бұрын
did the GTR have some sort of crash? at 6:00 it looks a bit like the bonnet isn´t exactly in place
@000Haze
@000Haze 11 жыл бұрын
Can't imagine how tight Brand's hatch was for F1 races back in the day, crazy with all that elevation change. Great track for slower cars though
@Jury1111111111
@Jury1111111111 12 жыл бұрын
I think the best ever video was the one with C63 AMG Black, M3 GTS and the GT3 RS 4.0. There was road driving, there was precision track driving, and there was some drifting. The only weak point was that the video didn't last 1 hour
@FPShkED
@FPShkED 12 жыл бұрын
Question. What's the tube hanging from his helmet?
@Spearfisher1970
@Spearfisher1970 12 жыл бұрын
Very entertaining, thank you.
@sskhaliq
@sskhaliq 11 жыл бұрын
I'm an ex Top Gear fan from Pakistan and kind of tired of the predictability of Clarkson and Co's reviews. Their shows are verging on the ridiculous of late actually. Chris is smart, knowledgeable and from what I've seen so far, very objective in his reviews.. all things great arent just British. Kudos to him.
@medicationsalutation
@medicationsalutation 12 жыл бұрын
Well said, but I do get the logic in him having a little bit of bias to the benchmark just to be able to compare other supercars nicely.
@E46325mod
@E46325mod 11 жыл бұрын
I thought this turbo s pdk gets 2.7 seconds to 100km/h ??? Where'd the 3.3 come from maybe not using launch control ?
@BeeSolomona
@BeeSolomona 12 жыл бұрын
i only subscribed coz i thought chris harris was the only dude on this channel, and coz i saw him drifting!
@Tr3zn3r
@Tr3zn3r 8 жыл бұрын
the seating position in a Porsche is superb. I love the seating feel of the Cayman GT4 and love it over my 2015 GT-R for sure but the power delivery in the GT-R is better from a stop (Of course) and out of corners as well. But the Porsche Feels way Lighter and just as easy to keep in line but without all the weight you feel in the GT-R The Eight of the GT-R does feel safer at speed though whereas the Porsche and most Porsches feel like at any moment you could spin out and die like other light weighted super cars. Nissan should make the next GT-R (R36) with maybe 200-300lbs cut out of it, so that with a driver and a passenger it was 3,800 lbs , it would be awesome! and maybe lower the seating postion as well
@nicenow25
@nicenow25 7 жыл бұрын
IEATPLANETS YESIDO Nissan are yu listening
@dylanthompson1558
@dylanthompson1558 11 жыл бұрын
anyone notice the rear cup holders for the non-existant back seats?
@n700z28hikari528
@n700z28hikari528 11 жыл бұрын
Where is this circuit?
@michaelcheng22
@michaelcheng22 12 жыл бұрын
Totally off-topic, but does anyone know what kind of watch the guy has on?
@heatrjoh
@heatrjoh 12 жыл бұрын
Nice video. If I had that much money I'd have standard gt r second hand and a Caterham. Covers both grounds then. Chris. Go to Cadwell! I love that circuit and if you do I would love to help if I can. I only live 30 mins away
@thereisnospectrum
@thereisnospectrum 10 жыл бұрын
i forgot about the normal 911 turbo w/ manual. Good call
@izuaff04
@izuaff04 12 жыл бұрын
Chris..drifting is what you good at and reason i watch your videos....
@Kav3h
@Kav3h 12 жыл бұрын
Fun race, wonder how they would have done in the dry.
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