Did it run? Yes What did it cost? 10 whole cores

You should try with the wraith prism since that's what AMD would include with the high-end chips

I wonder how it would do with a Wraith Prism

I would've been interested to see what happens if you set the fan curve to hit 100% at 90 degrees.

JayzTwoCents: BOHemoth Greg Salazar: Behemoth Everyone else: Behemoth

Between this and your pairing of a 3080 with an FX CPU, I'm liking these crazy combination experiments you're doing!

I'm curious how the stock cooler for the 2600X will perform. It's a bit bigger and it has a copper slug in the middle.

It is bad if by accident the pump of the fluid was opened and it dropped a few drops but I saw it again quickly, then I closed quickly but it managed to drop a couple of drops in the process of tightening the screws., it was like 3 or 4, do you think that reduce time of life?, or still will work well? or is better return the water cooler, I just got it like one or two weeks ago

What camera do you use? I was actually pretty impressed with that autofocus snappiness

What about the wraith prism cooler. I have it around somewhere, thinking of using it in a itx case with a 5900x - jus wondering if it can handle it with jus gaming??

@Greg Salazar Any update on your video from last week, concerning your 5900x underperforming and the Bios 'issues'? Did AMD reply?

3200mhz cl20? Whut?

12:30 looking at your temp and that score it seems that pbo isnt running, you should get around 11k in R20 at 75-80c with everything on auto and pbo enabled. I've noticed that after i've manually oc my 5950x i have to restart my pc after putting it back to pbo in ryzen master in order to enable pbo again.

How about the Noctua low-profile AM4 air cooler with a 92*92*25 Delta high-end fan (over 100CFM, 13mm.H20, 4800rpm, 1A at 12V) and a fan curve set for 100% at 70degC? That's what I will be using with the 4750G in my DeskMini A300.

That was the snappiest auto focus ever.

I love your camera. She's so swift. And she knows to focus on what's important.

Can you guys mention your 5950x temps on full load here, my 5950x goes to 90c and stays there 8 whole time while running cinebench r23, im using NZXT X73

Greg: You should try the stock cooler from the FX-8350. Should fit the stock AM4 mount. Mine has 2 heat pipes and a 80mm fan. It would be interesting to see if it beats wraith stealth.

Good video thanks Greg, this is the kind of informative stuff I enjoy most

Was that the older one with the copper base slug, or the newer solid aluminum one? Don't feel this would change the results - at least not by much - I just want to be sure of which revision of cooler was used.

great now sell me you 5900x or 5950x so i can make memes in blender. I'll send you my dual x5680 rig XD

Nice video. I am Curious as how the Original Wraith Cooler would do on this CPU.

What portable display are you using in the video?

What about adjusting the fan curve to make the "noise" tolerable. If someone would "in emergency?" have only this cooler, would umping up the fan curve provide the near full speed?

This reminds me of back when i had a dell prebuilt with one 80mm case fan and the intel stock cooler. The tower also was pretty small too. In just that 35% utilization of the intel4790 non-k i would get while playing games it would usually hover around 80-85 degrees. It would throttle at 95 degrees and i stresstested it and it stayed at 95 degrees (very very loud). The base clock was 3.6ghz and it could boost up to 4.0ghz (i couldnt change that because it was non-k) but at 100% load it throttles down to about 1.8ghz

GS: "I have no idea what's going to happen." Me: Oh wait, I know! But it was very informative actually seeing it done. Good job.

please show me the bench with nh-d15 cooler

You say install left side panel but it's the starboard side which means right.

Can you please try a stock fx8xxx heatsink, i think it can cool this thing, the fx8xxx cpu's have even higher tdp's. They fit on the am4 mobo's they are cross compatible.

I wonder how increased can speeds would effect this setup.

ive been following ur channel from a long time and i wna say ur vdos are always interesting and useful. ur not someone so called " pc enthusiast" just doing reviews and benchmarks with the products links in description like most "pc enthusiasts" doing these days. u justified ur channel name. "for science"

Love the funny what if video... really! But, would have been fun to see you do a four cooler comparison with the Wraith Stealth, Wraith Spire and the Wraith Prism coolers against each other and against your "ideal cooler".

I used the Wraith Prism with the 5950X and it was very much fine

I ran a 3950X on a U9S with a graphite pad (IC) and a single fan. Is it really THAT much better than the low end stock cooler?

I'm curious how the other ryzen stock coolers would fair as well.

Amazing! Never thought I'd be finish watching this video!

105w tdp chip with a 65w cooler you could have at least tried the spire (95w tdp) which would probably still be a step down from the top and one but at least it would have been a sporting chance .

Can you test it with a 207xt slim?

As I remember, there is a stealth cooler with copper on it that came with the first gens I think. I wonder what the others like the spire and prism perform at as well.

Why did Aida show only 8 cores instead of 16?

I gave up trying to cool the 3900x with an air cooler and had to switch to a custom water loop. I even tried lapping the IHS and it still overheated with a NH-U12A cooler. Lapping did lower the temp about 5C, but the temp would still exceed the 90C the motherboard would start beeping at. This was not overclocked, but running folding at home. The SIMD instructions seem to generate more heat.

now im curious what happens if you let the cooler go 100

The box cooler had mine idling at 90. I turned it off quickly and installed a Noctua u12a chromax black and it went down to 31.6 degrees idling.

WHy not crank up the fan speed to at least see what the coolers capability is?

That’s like trying to replace 4 747’s engines with Cessna propellers lol 😂. That will definitely not end well

Man i wonder how good a Arctic Freezer ii 120mm in push/pull will cool a 3900x. Im building a tinker itx build with spare parts and the only cpu air cooler i have under 150mm is the wraith prism cooler and that was great for a 3600. So i went with the Arctic Freezer ii, I don’t plan to overclock much if at all. And another thing i have a 500 watt evga psu in it now and with the 3600 and reference 5700xt it’s fine pulling 350 watts max gaming. I think it should be fine with the 3900x i have a 750 watt evga g3 i just dont want to bother with putting it in though i might because i have a radeon vii on the shelf that would barely fit in the case. But it’s not like its much faster gaming but it would just be cool to put all that power in a small itx case.

Also gotta give it to AMD for putting good fans on their stock heatsinks, i think the stealth cooler is very bad in terms of cooling performance, but the fan is indeed pretty quite for what it is.

Same question as everyone else, why didn't you use the Prism?

The Wraith Stealth cooler is not noisy, because... it does not have as much RPM as old AMD BOX coolers had and it´s bigger. I was using my Wraith Stealth to cool down AM4 CPU in some low-cost build until a replacement arrived and it wasn´t very noisy even at max rpm. It might have something to do with fan diameter - old BOX cooler was 60mm fan with 6000rpm, these are 92mm fans with 80mm fan holes and they max out at @3000rpm. That said, current cooler - Arctic Freezer 34 - on that particular CPU is now even quieter, but i had to replace stock fan for Noctua.

Couldn't at least use the Wraith Spire or Prism? They were at least made for 8 core cpus.

i want to see the same test with the 65 Watt eco mode enabled.

My 5950x motherboard bundle came with the wraith cooler. I got a warning while in the bios that temps were too high! When I checked it was 67 degrees! I switched it to the Noctua NH-U12A which was in the mid 30’s idle and averaged 58 degrees under load which I didn’t expect. I almost bought an AIO liquid cooler for it but I don’t think I need to now.

As someone who owns both a R5 2600 and 3600, I feel like AMD has been cheaping out on the stock cooler since the OG 1600X had a copper slug, then they removed that in the 2600, then they made it shorter in the 3600... I guess point is, I feel like they have different versions of the Wraith Stealth

I don’t get why they added a wraith stealth with the Ryzen 5 3600. It can’t even cool it without getting loud at idle.

That makes sense, because that stock cooler is designed to handle only about 65W of outputted heat

I made the desision to overspent on my aircooler so to say. I ended up buying an Cryorig H5 Ultimae for me 8320 back when I build my system in 2014/15 (I should have gone intel.. but amd was soo much cheaper). The stock cooler AMD used to have were garbage so I wanted a 212 Evo but the cryorig was only 15 eur more so I went for it. ANd i'm glad I did. Havent had to change my cooler for the past 5 years and I'm certain it can cool the 5950X aswel. I'm proud of Past Me to have made that decision! But I'm also looking at the alphacool Eiswolf and Eisbear options. Should I get a 30xx or RX 6000 card it might be a great option!

No Wraith Prism cooler?

Ryzen 9 5950X with an a320? That would be a cool video As always great content

Yes! This is the stuff people want to know! I've also always wondered what would happen if you lift the locking lever while the system is running. :hint hint:

Amature! I do heavy 3d rendering on my stock cooler cooled ryzen 9 and it can get down to 1.5 ghz. 😂 grate video, i should probably get a high end aur cooler :)

big thumbs-up to asrock-amd on this. you don't mention, so I suppose there was not even a momentary lockup (like when cpu suddenly realizes temp is too high and practicly shuts down for a couple seconds to crawl back into safe range) you gave it a severely cooling constrained enviroment, it realized this and stayed safe the whole test

LMAO ... I tweeted you about this mother board about an hour before this went live

Can we get a follow up on this with a wraith prism and a hyper 212? This way, it’s like for those people that just don’t want to spend a ton on a cooler, but want maximum performance.

had a cpu spike, it blew up half my house, maybe a random back ground task. Who in there right mind would try to OC on a stock cooler from any company

Hey buddy, you forgot to link in the card for the AMD power issue video at 12 minutes. Interesting video nevertheless, thanks!

I wonder if the wraith prism would do any better

Thanks for the video, but you really should have set the fan to 100% to see the result, there was something wrong with the fan curve on this MB.

I put a 5950x system together and really like it for my editing and 3D art! Using just the DarkRockPro4 BeQuiet cooler I run 100% CPU power 24/7 and feel confident leaving it alone for the day. It runs in the 60's to low 70's, except during a heat wave like now, it'll touch 77C But still a stable and running fast. A really good CPU and cooler.

Would have liked to have seen the CPU cooler at max fan speed to see what difference that made.

my cooler is overkill for my CPU R5 3600/Noctua NH-U12S - I just like the way it looks, the big chromed out cooler tower versus the stock Ryzen cooler

This reminds me of what I did, i9-9900k with intel stock cooler

Huh, actually did better than I thought it would. Would be nice to see what it'll do with the wraith prism. Possibly another video? What about using that crap cooler, a wraith prism, something like a D-15 and finally a 360 aio? I'd be interested in seeing the boost frequencies and power draw with each respective cooler and how much the chip will benefit from proper cooling and what the minimum recommended cooler would be.

The free coolers are just nice to get especially with some rgb.

The 5600X would be better if it included the Wraith Spire cooler. A bit more cooling would serve well on that sku.

For a 3600xt 50c when gaming is it normal?

You should try the old style amd box cooler (the one that comes with the 3000g), that'll be annoyingly loud on top of hot lol.

Because what could go wrong?

it did thhe same with the 3600. you should try the excelent budget Deepcooll Gammax 400 air cooler. Its REALLY REALLY good for the price.

Why would you not run the fan at 100%???

Would love to see the 5800X and the Wraith Prism combo tested. Surely it will hold it's own with the 5600X, but I'm liking the 5800X as an option for the enthusiast/semi-pro gamer/streamer/editor... Realistically the 5600X is probably fine for that market but I really want those extra cores and threads but still want to use my Wraith Prism lol

That moment I hit 10,550 on my i7-9700k @5.1ghz . Temperatures mean everything when coming to boost. I never see above 55°c during stress tests with my air tunnel case.

You should use a am3 stock cooler on it

“And thanks for burning with me”

From my experience the only viable ways of cooling the 5950x at least in my case was a noctua nh-d15 or a custom water loop.

Know what pissed me off about the 3600 i bought? it came with that wraith stealth, cool, its good enough for the 3600 nonX, but the main issue i have is that the cooler, from AMD, does not support the freaking AMD mounting solution, which meant i had to take apart the pre-installed mounting solution on the motherboard Anyhoozlebe, with my 3950x i can passively cool it with a noctua C14S if i use windows power plan-eco, package power sits at around 50w and the CPU doesnt pass 90c with a cinebench loop, if i turn the fan on lowest setting, the temps drop down to ~35c(i have a low ambient temp of like 18-19c) If i remove the fan, and use a cardboard box to act as a chimney it will normally settle around 80c Edit, the clock speeds of 'power saver' are 2.2ghz, but still, 16 cores at 2.2ghz IIRC the Dell Poweredge R720 at work also has 16 cores at 2.2ghz, but uses close to 200w instead of 50w

Let that beard grow!!

I'm plotting a 5950X with a Noctua. I haven't decided between the U12 & the D15, it depends a little bit on clearance and case. (Not money.) Finding a cooler which would work, is a lot easier than finding a case which will accept it. "But certainly that'll fit in a standard case?" Ah, glad you asked. It seems the height with fan(s) is 165mm. So if the case is more than about 175mm 'wide' then it will fit. But that depends on how far from the edge the motherboard sits. And that depends on the length of the spacers you use, and that depends on what they send you or what you have sitting around. Ok, be conservative, go find a standard ATX type case that's a min of 180mm 'deep'. Ah, now ... this is our open display case that has 4 sheets of tempered glass and a three inch gap between them, and it's really nice with lots of lights. Fine, now tell me how I'm going to keep children and grandchildren and puppies and dust-bunnies out of that? "Oh, you want a fully enclosed case?" Yes, I do. "But I thought you just said you want a twin-tower twin-fan Noctua cooler?" This is the problem... So what about the little 12a? Well that's visually a lot more compact, and I know they work on a 5950X under Linux, under load, because Michael Larabel at Phoronix has one of those on his 5950X test unit. (I've see his photos.) But I'm not sure he closes the case up when it's running, and he doesn't mention what the case actually is... and no, I don't recognise it. Metal side with louvres would be fine, mesh would be fine, I'd strongly prefer to avoid glass. I don't look for glass filing cabinet, I don't look for a glass fridge, I don't look for a glass toolbox, sheet-metal is fine.

you forgot AMD used to provide a Wraith Prism with their 105 W tdp chips. Should have used that

So what I’m understanding. A more powerful cpu will get hotter doing the same tasks a weaker chip would?

This Corsair 4000D is gonna be the next PC meta! Every tech channel is sponsored by them recently...

“This video here” What video where?

greg, check out CTR, for ryzen cpu's its a badass app. basically a easy OC that optimizes your CCX cores, gets you the fastest possible performance out of the chip, while using the least amount of power, something you should look into bud, its on techpowerup, guru3d etc, you wanna use 1usmus ryzen power plan , and newest chipset bios, and cbr20

I'm running the Wraith Prism on my 5950x. getting similar temperatures to this video.. not quite as much throttling though. I'm idling at around 60 degrees in 34 degree ambient temperature (summertime in the southern hemisphere).. would not recommend a stock cooler with this CPU.

Shouldve really experimented with different fan speeds like 100%

With watercooling and a 5950x you should get at least 11000 point in CB R20... why are you still below 10000?

You should test the 5950x with a Wraith Max or Wraith Prism.

This video just about perfectly encapsulates everything you SHOULDN'T do regarding a new Zen3 build. Fairly goofy video idea, but also a fairly good contrarian tale of what no to do.

That one hair threw me off in the beginning... ;-)

Wraith Prism isn't terrible if you flip the switch from L to H.

Wow, my old TRUE 120 is keeping my 5950X at 70C 100% load. Was considering replacing it, but apparently its not bad. hmm