Maybe that’s why Nylander, Matthews and Marner asked for so much to stay.

I heard Steve Yzerman didn't like him, that's enough for me.

You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain.

Being a Wings fan I specifically remember hearing through a good source that Lindstrom would only stick around if Babs left and he didn’t so Linds retired. This doesn’t surprise me.

Marchand deserves 3 games for this

No wonder all those guys weren’t taking any lower contracts

Jamie, if you were playing for him? Are you going to call him out? I don't think so, stop trying to defend him.

really hate when someone starts with no one is perfect, blah blah, thats b.s. a lot of people go their entire lives and not treat people like garbage.....

With all of Babcock's success it's easy to overlook the fact that he inherited a dynasty in Detroit and got to coach a stacked team Canada. That's like being given a ferrari and having to race against Ford Pinto's. I saw all I needed to see when he scratched Spezza on opening night against his old team...DBag move.

Take a shot everytime you hear “bad guy”

Does he really deserve to be in the Hall? He rode a fantastic performance by Giggy to the cup final with Anaheim, then won 1 cup with the insanely stacked Red Wings, before never winning a playoff round in Toronto. Don’t even mention the gold medals, any coach in the NHL or even AHL could take that roster and win gold

I am amazed when people say " why are people saying things now?" If you know how power works you would know how stupid this statement is. Reprisal happens all the time. People are afraid of the consequences to their career and livelihood. Sorry Jamie, your comments are naive.

I see why these guys hold out on re signing in Toronto. Hopefully it's not an issue anymore.

O dog was repeating “bad guy” over and over that I almost expected Razor Ramon to appear on set with “Say hello to the bad guy” lol

Nikita Zietsev sure wanted out fast.

Josh Levi lighting it up when they gave him to Vancouver. Good hometown boy.

Something about this video makes me feel like he’s a “bad guy” I just can’t put my finger on it tho

The Speeza thing was annoying and Speeza came out like a pro. How about that, eh?

He was the same guy when you hired him for record breaking amounts Toronto. The more right you are for firing him the more wrong you are for hiring him.

i mean comie been saying it for years on chiclets lol

I just love watching overdrive. All 3 bring different perspectives that are important. Respect to Jeff O'Neill for how spot on he was here.

Commodore has been saying it forever and I think a lot of people probably just assumed it was sour grapes or something on his part but now it is all coming out.

Babcock making Marner do this is bad, obviously. However, I'd be way more concerned if the entire organization knew about this (which they probably did) and didn't do anything about it

I wonder if he was one of the reasons Leafs had to pay so much to get their guys signed.

I remember when he left Detroit Johan Franzen would rag on him constantly on Instagram. Johan being under contract still I am sure was told to ease up.

Marner close to 100 pts under a guy he probably couldn't stand.... Imagine when he's playing happy.

Christmas came early for Commodore; it's in November

Certainly doesn't help that he got completely outcoached by Bruce frickin' Cassidy two years in a row.

He's a Baddddddddddd Guyyyyyyyyy.... Duh

I'm starting to love O-dog. Guy says what's on his mind.

I can only wonder how Paul Kariya, Steve Rucchin, JS Giguere, Adam Oates and the rest of the 2003 Mighty Ducks of Anaheim feel about Mr. Babcock.

Sounds like Mike Keenan

The Leafs had to pay so much for Marner & Matthews to entice them to play for Babcock.

Finally, the real Babcock story is coming out. His use of spare players was absurd, how he regularly blew up his back up goalies was ridiculous, it goes on and on.

The media needs to take a good long hard look at themselves, because they definitely enabled this erratic coaching behavior. Babcock was more or less deified in the Toronto media the past 3-4 years because of his contract and perceived pedigree. Why would any reasonable person risk their career/livelihood attacking a deified figure, especially one with a winning pedigree? They would get LAMBASTED by journalists, which would then trickle down to fans. Even most people when hearing Mike Commodore a while back before the Leafs started sucking were saying, “he’s just a disgruntled guy with an axe to grind”. We tend to overlook coaching tactics when their team is winning hockey games.

I dont care how many gold medals or cups he has. If your given a team that stacked you better have something to show for it

Being Toxic is a Way of Life for some folks

How is nobody else noticing how comical this is? “You know how many people hate Babcock? Hundreds!” “I did my research!” “I spoke to 5 player” 5 players! How can you be sooo confident about all of those claims after talking to 5 players! Lmao okay bud.

I love O-Dog Meltdowns. Totally on point :)

Hey O'neil, How do you really feel about Babcock?

Not alot of coaches like the great Barry Trotz. On and off the ice a great man💙🧡

My kid playing lacrosse in high school. He would empty the benches at the end of the game, except my kid. It was so hard to watch. To my son's credit, he would not let me talk to that disgrace of a coach. In one game, the other team has huge defensive players. All the kids are getting crushed. So he puts my kid in. His stands in front, get hammered, but scores....in first 30 seconds. 1 minute later, same play and he gets crushed, but scores. The kid has to be helped off the field and the coach says, "wow, 2 lucky goals...but you let them hit you too hard." I was about 25 feet away and I started moving to the coach. Another dad stopped me and said, "I heard that too. I will,report it tomorrow and he is gone next year." He took a kid that literally played or talked about playing 24/7, and he beat the love of the game out of him. I asked around to see if maybe my kid had popped off in practice or something. The trainer told me that no, my kid was the most polite on the team. It turned out that at half-time, especially when losing, the coach would say, "ok kid, you say u love lacrosse, what do you think we should do?" And then my son would break down the first half and say what changes should be made. I learned that my son, but not the coached, watched film of games to learn. The coach would the poo-poo my son's ideas.....talk about something else for 5'minutes ....and then say what to do for 2nd half, which was essentially what my kid just said. You see, a man would have encouraged him to consider coaching. Perhaps tried to pass his know,edge to my son. But, this peace of garbage had so little self confidence, that he had to steal the kid's ideas...and then make fun of him....to make himself look better. He was a 30 year old coach. My kid was 15. All I can say is that if I ever get the chance, he and I are going to have a go. I just watched this scum break my kid's love of the game. 2 goals in 2 minutes. That was his whole season. Even the team's stars were offering to sit so my son could play more. Nope. I dont understand how anybody does that. I have coached. I tell kids early on that they will be riding the bench most likely. But, everybody gets in during garbage time. Who holds one player back? I only really hate a few people....and that POS IS one.

Met him at a bar downtown calgary when he was with detroit. Tries to introduce myself and tell him im a big fan of his work and he told me to fuck off and leave him alone.

He picked marner because marners dad was the same way and so he became an easy target

Why has this all came out now before this everyone loved him

An NHL coach playing mind games! Mike Keenan and Scotty Bowman would be shocked and appalled.

Mike Commodore is so damn honest with things he said about Babs it is impossible for it to be true. And its very insightful the kind of person Babs is.

O’dog is the best! He has been saying this from day one!

I agree with Noodles, the people that knew this was going on should have had the balls to say something or call MB out on it. No one speaks up anymore, everyone is scared but as soon as the guy is gone, everyone becomes a tough guy. I can now understand why the young guys held out/demanded so much money to play for Babcock, he was hard to deal with and be around.

This has been going on forever.. I had a junior coach who dressed me, as a 20 year old and a point a game player, to sit on the bench the whole game.. Just to get his "superstar" motivated

"When you leave Anaheim, no one even cares." Good point.

This is going to get a lot deeper. His career is done

That guy in the middle sure is objective. lol

I've heard Dubas wanted to fire Babs in the offseason but Shanny decided to give him one last go. It seems odd they fired him on a road trip. However, I bet that the players only meeting the team had was them agreeing to send a message to Shanny saying , either through a message delivered by Johnny T or their play, that they needed Babs gone. They basically gave up at puck drop in Vegas and Pitty after that. Shanny has no choice now, tells Dubas he can fire him, and the second he's able to Kyle tells Babs to hit the bricks. That's gotta be the way this played out.

these stories have been out for a while , now its all coming out

I knew the Leafs were tanking on purpose during that six game losing streak. The fact that they started winning IMMEDIATELY after Babcocks firing just proves it. Now we know why.

I've been listening to these guys over the last year, and can't even put a number of times they called out Babcock on some bad decision, bad line change, putting out the fourth line or wrong player in the wrong situation. Game seven against the bruins, was all on babock because his top two lines where on the bench from 5 minute stretches getting cold waiting fro the third and fourth line to get off. O'dog was right, why didn't MLSE (shanahan) not get rid of him in the summer and get the new coach implementing a system.

God Babcock was a saviour a couple years ago now look at them shit on him

Here we are 3 years later and the Leafs still haven’t won a round. What comes to mind for me is this; Brendan Shanahan surely knew/knows Babcock, intimately as a hockey guy because he played for Babcock. What was the thought process bringing in Babcock and this ‘style’ of coach knowing full well that this team would be young and inexperienced at the NHL level. I’m left thinking that there are some details about how decisions of this type are made. What critical things are we not privy to regarding the ‘relationship’ between players and management. Certainly Shanahan was a hard nosed and terrific player. Perhaps there is a negative situation or atmosphere in and around the Leafs. Certainly they were allowed some leeway around the dress code and we’re always shown how much fun the players have in their downtime at Scotiabank arena. Just to sum up, Brendan Shanahan has been at the helm for something like 8 years with NO POSITIVE RESULTS IN THE PLAYOFFS. This MUST BE THE YEAR FOR SOMETHING MORE IN THE PLAYOFFS or changes MUST BE MADE. The Leafs, on paper, should have been able to progress farther in previous seasons, however have come up short EVERY YEAR…

06:05....The coach O-Dog is talking about has to be Paul Maurice. He coached Jeff on three separate occasions, if I remember correctly. It could be Peter Laviolette, but Maurice coached O-Dog for at least 75% of his career.

Noodles has the best take on this scenario. If the leafs were winning, he’d still be the coach and no one would be saying shit.

I don't know what the hell Jamie is saying... I'd love to have a talk with JS Smith and Jim Hiller and hear what they have to say about Babs...

Josh leivo , has got to have a story . Anyone heard it yet ??

At 4:53 O-dog makes a comment about Babcock sitting Justin Holl for 70 plus games and didn't think he was a player.... Justin Holl looked like a quite serviceable player this year for the Leafs.

“Leaf fan rants about Mike Babcock..” Lmao why wasn’t he called on it while he was the coach ....

Odog for the next coaches corner

What did he get Ovi to do and when?

It’s good odog is speaking with emotion on this. Wrong is wrong. No need to justify it. I wonder if Tortz is equally bad

Babcock seems to have treated his teams like they were in WW1

As a Red Wing fan since birth, I never realized Babcock's was slowly poisoning our team, not until well after he left. Now our organization is sporting a hefty black eye.

Hockey guys don’t run their mouths in general. Commie is one of the few that spoke. It’s kind of ‘Me Too’-esque in a way and finally everyone is coming forward to tell their stories!!

The part about his biases and judgements to players was spot on as a coach you need to see the light from your players...not the darkness, it seemed Babcock was far too negative...id say his permanent expression matches

" I know all about this guy " ... Ya sure you do Jeff.

Theo fleury could probably tell you why you don’t say something. Principal is the same.

You start to look at the evidence and you can really see who the person really is. And the reason why they don't call him out earlier was because he was a coach and the players just wanted to play hockey.

The host on the left, the look on his face when O’Neil was talking in the first part.

A lot of coaches could have coached the Wings to a cup and won the golds with Canada. If you're going to look at both sides however losing 3 playoff rounds to the Bruins was arguably like losing in the Stanley Cup finals.

Crazy how badly the media has turned on him. Players on other teams will want no part of Babcock. Might cost him a few jobs.

Is this a studio with 3 commentators, or a studio with 1 commentator and 2 listeners?

Oh no, the minute leading up to this was key to the story.

Another sad commentary. No one felt ok to speak up. Makes me have more respect for Dan Carrcillo outing the mistreatment of kids in youth hockey. Damn.

Babcock could coach his style in the 1960's-2000's, but now players are different.

The guy on the right..stop saying why it did not come out earlier..just because players were scared to talk about his abuse all these years , does not mean it was ok and we should not blame Bab now.

Jeff respect for your attitude!

You got to feel bad for the poor fella in the middle. His heart is clearly broken.

Surprises me that people are piling on like this

What did babs doo with marnier ? Im so confused

I was saying this for years when he coached Detroit: Dan Cleary was a superstar in his eyes, a scrub on any other team. Jiri Hudler fled to Russia to get away from Babcock.

No wonder the Leaf players did not want to play for this Pyscho coach

“I've always bet on Mike Babcock, and I'll continue to bet on him.” - Babcock

Jamie, I guess you want to be in the position to interview Babcock down the way, so say what you need to. Jeff was a great player and is retired and has nothing to lose, so I am in his corner on this and agree. Babcock = BAD GUY

that d man on Detroit made him famous, the best d man I ever have seen not named bobby orr, there is a reason this comes out, it does not fall out of the sky.

"So everybody say goodnight to the bad man! The truth ez, ju people need bad guys like me."

Should have kept Levo.

You guys should make a barn team quiz

Andi Petrillo literally said this last week and Leafs fans were giving her shit about it. I don’t understand

I've literally never heard anything bad about Babcock before he got fired. People have always talked of his class. What's going on?

If Babcock is the biggest a-hole in the league....Paul Maclean can be his VP. Those Detroit locker rooms from 06-10 got the wake up of a lifetime going from Scotty to babs. By the way Jamie completely nailed it with the Darryl Sutter comparison

No one wanted to bring it up because they know it's club in the NHL. They circulate coaches and GMs no matter how terrible they do the job or the type of person. These guys all protect each other and players know that. Many players in the past had careers cancelled not because they couldn't play in the league but because they pissed off the wrong owner, manager or coach.

Is the title supposed to say "skewered"?