Almost every martial artist that pressure tests their art goes through this - it's the journey you have to take. First, you learn the form. Then you test the form, and you realize that you have no idea what you are doing in a real fight. Afterward you learn how to apply the form to an actual fight. Sometimes training is not what it seems at first. Horse stance to strengthen legs for forced sweeps was a FANTASTIC example of that reality. I grew up scrapping with friends. We'd go 100%, save for strikes to the face which were more like 70-80% (and carefully placed) so we didn't lose teeth or end up with a broken nose. Just roughhouse boys who didn't care much if it hurt - fighting was fun for us, so we did it every day. So as I learned various martial arts, every single thing was pressure tested immediately. I didn't go step by step... it just all happened together, in messy fashion. And because I was learning more than one martial art at the same time, I never got caught up in reverence for any particular martial art as "the best one" (although I do have favorites: aikido, ninjitsu, tai chi... all of them are hard to learn how to apply, as good teachers for that don't especially exist - and in the case of ninjitsu, almost no teachers exist at all these days). I did grow up in karate first though, hence a nostalgic draw to channels like this one. I adore seeing Seth try other martial arts, as it reminds me of my youth. Seth, my man - your legs are lazy. When you practice karate, bend your knees slightly more so that you are 1-2 inches shorter than you usually stand. It will increase your power and flexibility, improve your form and balance, and you'll be considerably faster and more fluid in the way that you fight. It's critical to be able to "change levels" when you fight - but when you practice standing so tall like you do, you never develop the leg muscle conditioning to change levels. Nor do you get the muscle memory for it. Best tip I can give a young black belt.

Key word is all day ,bro spent all day working his muscle and tendon ,in today training you wont do more than 4 to 6 hour

I remember that fisherman. Makoto Nagano is a legend in Ninja Warrior

Yeah, it's almost like they knew what they were doing. ; ) Traditional martial arts work, but they were developed by people who fought with hand weapons, worked fields, and didn't have an alternative means of entertainment besides training their bodies and hitting trees. They were meant for a more practical generation, and one less focused on the type of chemical and resource surplus that we have today. Easy to get big when you have testosterone and limitless food; hard to stay healthy in limited resource environments with less advanced medical care. They're very intelligent, taken in context of their environment, and still useful for the same reasons today.

I love what you said. Lately my muay thai training is starting to look like "esoteric" martial arts. Wide movements, holding balls of energy and repetitive spins, and I should incorporate some conditioning. It's picking up an imaginary moment in time whee something happens that I'm bad at, and I repeat training that bit. Multiple spinning kicks, holding an imaginary opponent and pushing him over and over... They would all look weird to someone who's new to muay Thai. Isn't the shin conditioning in the video cool? I like what the arm is doing, it's doing what it should do while kicking.

Probably because you did not follow simple directions to sweep the leg.

did you find the monkey though?

@Benja Sa Bukid Sifu Chris competed in full contact fighting if I recall correctly.

Too bad kung fu is bs pick a real discipline like Ameri-do-ta lol

@Benja Sa Bukid usually when you're learning the traditional way you do do a lot more sparring

Ha or before work. Sometimes wake up very early and train in the park.

Now I want congee and eggs

Mmm, juk.

I tried it for fun. I'm good at normal push ups but could barely do one on my fingers

I didnt think finger pushups were to bad, but you do need to do nuckle pushups first. Although unlike that guy I do my knuckle pushups on my first two knuckles not my last three.

@@calebfielding6352 when I do finger pushups my joints go “Nope!” I mean I can do them but it’s like putting myself in an armbar while doing bicep curls.

@@kevintse2870 Dont start with finger pushups. Do knuckle pushups first. Do it only on your first two knuckles. Once you can do those without issue, you will not have any trouble doing them on your fingers. The knuckle pushups strengthens everything in your hand. Note, do not try to do knuckle pushups on all your knuckles, you must do them either on your front two knuckles, or back two knuckles, although i only do it on my front two since that was how I was taught to punch.

I can't do push ups unless they're the modified knee ones, and with those only ten-twenty.

Practice practice practice leads to mastery

My coach would put the entire class in horse stance and see who could stay in it for the longest. Many of the students thought it would be no sweat, but changed their tune real quick after a couple minutes.

At the very least, it's a great bodyweight leg exercise.

Sprawls?

@@fabioooh Yes, one of the first applications for horse stance is takedown defense. The way you jump into horse and put your hands out is a sprawl.

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Good lord I was in the park some 5-6 hours every day of the week as a kid. it was essentially a full time job. Then after we finished I would go eat at Sifu's house and we would play chess and he would tell me about his life.

Did you do this kind of training in Sanshou classes?

My grandfather was Choy Li Fut, it's a shame that he died of lung cancer before he could teach my mother anything. Grandmother said girls shouldn't do something so unlady-like. That was in the 60s though, and I'm sure if he was alive today he wouldn't have had any issues with teaching whatever gender or age, kung fu.

I noticed that, the long boxing, long sweeping arms, so Choy Lee Fat! :D

There is a Hop Gar school that teaches Choy Li Fut as well in Glens Falls NY Excellent compliment systems

They have a common ancestry.

Our Grandmaster David Chin had done a good bit of Law Horn/Fut Ga/Choy Li Fut before he met Sifu Ng Yim-Ming and learned the full Hop Gar system from him. There are definitely times in history when the Fut Ga/Choy Li Fut masters had overlap and interaction with Hop Gar masters

The dream

What become of your group?

Same classes went basically like this quick pre-warm up stretches. -Temple Sequence: Basically every Stance for 1 minute each (Horse, Arrow, Bow, Cross, Cat) Mostly. With ending on a low horse stance. -Than a bunch of stretching, and leg raises. (This also were punch and basic kick drills were done) -Than our military drills, which what we called the work out portion. This consisted of variation of Push ups in every flavor: Knuckle, wrist, finger tips, spread, diamonds Crunches like "row your boats" or having you lay on your back and straighten legs out, while a partner wings your legs towards the ground while keeping your legs straight you needed to catch your lets and bring back to straight up. -Follow by some more light stance work and tai-chi stuff (Usually snake curls or Chi raising) And bone conditioning. Always done with a partner. -Than we'd get into either Full contact sparring (Tho you could opt for lighter, lower belt usually picked) Form drills, or weapon drills. The entire class lasted about 3-4 hours. Tho a lot of people only came for the work out portion (1 hour-ish) (Weekends we did Lion Dance training)

@@Fenglang1 unfortunately most of us left our home town. I'm back now, but I haven't been able to catch up with any of the guys.

@@GreyfauxxGaming that stance training was one of the things I took away from our cross training. I found it really useful as a strength- and endurance-building tool, but also for building flexibility and balance too.

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The physiological fact is that if you train to make your bones and tendons thicker and stronger muscular strength will increase proportionally. Thicker bones and tendons mean thicker insertion points for the muscles and therefore thicker, denser muscle.

Bone strength training is mostly bro science. In fact, weight lifting is probably better for you bone strength than hitting your shin w/ a stick. The only thing its good for is killing nerves

@@jhvnhjifgvbv8126 Exactly. There's a lot of nonsense in "traditional martial arts." There's a lot of stuff that isn't nonsense too, but there is absolutely zero science that backs up any of the BONE CONDITIONING baloney. Whereas plenty of science shows lifting weights DOES help your tendons and bones, along with proper nutrition. There's a reason you don't see much of this stuff in historical Western Martial Arts, and yet there's hundreds of years of history of people defeating each other on the battlefield just fine without it.

it's not bone strength. it's about aligning your structure, strengthening your tendons, ligaments, and fascia (something the Chinese have known for over a millenia). the muscles is the final piece that ties everything together but it is not the foundation

@@hahmann what does "bone conditioning" have to do with fighting skills?

Or you can play Sekiro :^)

I thought perhaps the monkey in the picture is a zen technique to make you realise you are the monkey as your consciousness (monkey mind) restlessly looks around externally for it.

Kung fu is actually one of the early early martial arts and was made thousands of years ago, and it’s actually many other martial arts that took stuff from Kung fu, like karate and others

@@thegoldenwolf9008 correct. Though geography plays a role there as well, of course.

i was doing kung fu in my early teens am now deep in my fourties and still have the flexibility and leg streches ,not the speed and toughness, but it is a great way to train for longevity.

You mean Northern Shaolin.

Yes actually I do, thank you

Yeah the 3 star arm conditioning drills were always done with a partner in our class. The posts and stuff were usually done at home.

LOL me too. my thighs grew so fast in the first six months I got stretch marks. And yes 15 + years later they're still there. Thanks for sharing that.

@Benja Sa Bukid I did not. It was all very very static and theoretic which was one of the reasons we quit after a year

@Benja Sa Bukid yeah, it's quite sad, but whenever I need some good stretches I still do the things I learned 15+yrs ago, so at least I got this 😅 This master here really seems to know what he is talking about,I enjoy watching it :)

@@amyaccount7935 it’s weird if you didn’t learn any attacks but the kung fu fighting style is mostly based on being strong and fast from training and technique

I think the spirit and community, as well as the self discipline, are the often overlooked value or traditional martial arts. Many today are taught and trained as a sport, not as a discipline of self improvement/mastery.

Sifu means father, you refer to Senior student as big brother or big sister. Its structured like a family.

@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh As a Chinese-American, I can easily tell you no it doesn't LOL. Sifu means "master" of any craft, so a kung fu master can be called "sifu" and a chef can be called "sifu" as well. It has nothing to do with "father". Nice story tho.

@@lai_strength_training 師父 - master of any skill; teacher. But the other meaning IS father (父).

@@lai_strength_training thanks for the education. That is what I was taught, by my former sifu. But I would have to side with a native speaker of the language. Thanks again for the update.

At 16 I had a Wing Chun sifu from Hong Kong. He emigrated to the states in the 70’s. By the time I was learning from him I realized he was the real deal. He took no payment, everybody sparred or went through conditioning in his backyard. I have no idea how old he was at the time, but like Sifu Chris he had that old, tough looking skin, bones and muscles. When we sparred his forearms felt hard like rocks and heavy too. Yet he was light on his feet and solid and centered at the same time. We did old type conditioning. Horse stance, despite not being a wing Chun stance, was used to strengthen the legs, punching a bag of rice on the wall one hundred times, 100-200 push ups, pole work, working on the wooden dummy. It was crazy. Too bad I only did 2 years as I had moved to college after graduating.

In my opinion the beauty of Gongfu is how incredibly vast and varied it is. Hakka styles, Northern Muslim styles, Internal, External, joint locking, wrestling, spearhand/finger strikes, Emei styles, Wudang styles, and everything in between!

@@AztecUnshaven Agreed, it's like a buffet of random combat knowledge.

What I love about long fist is that you’re basically conditioning the hell out of your arms and using them as batons.

Agreed

So good

what style of kung fu do you practice ?

@@oldschoolmuzzey Northern Shaolin

@@aquaticlibrary nice.

Lol right. I feel like there are a lot of tma haters who don't get that you don't fight from horse stance. If you ever hit horse stance its going to be super fast in a transer from cat, or bow and arrow to put some force in your punch. It is just about leg strengthening and hip rotation. Something mma teaches as well. Having done both sides I think its a bummer that tma gets a bad wrap. Its like saying the Right Bros. plane was a real POS compared to a jet liner. No shit dude, but it doesn't mean the principles aren't sound.

@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh thats a pretty good point about the Wright Brothers. It also sucks that some tma practitioners try to use the stances in their fights, then get knocked on their asses

@@shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhshhhh in the end TMA will win out, kind of like how india and china were the center of the world economy 18 of the last 20 centuries. In the scheme of hundreds of years, dropping a century doesn't mean too much.

@@LightGlyphRasengan agreed. There is no quality control either. Some hillbilly who watched roadhouse 25 times starts calling himself master dave, and throwing chi balls at idiots and calls it tma. And it's a bad look for all tma.

They are associated with fighting, you know?

The trick in the US is finding bajiquan. I only know of two schools on the west coast.

@@brianwatson4119 I’m actually part of this group and they teach decent Bajiquan in the East coast: kzfaq.info/love/_9wlnLytN4PLwkSEjLx3mw

@@brianwatson4119 share pls! I’ve had an interest in Baji but never knew where to learn

theres that saying about heros and demons trembling when baji is combined with pigua

theres nothing explicitly modern shown in this vid training wise

Old school kung fu they don’t train novice students to fight because in their eyes you’re not qualified to fight. It’s not just about tradition it’s about expertise. In old school days people would live with or near their teachers or masters because of blood, political ties, necessity, or convenience, so if you have an issue you bring it up with your teacher, family, or clan not picking street brawls with random people. When you’re ready you’ll move on to light sparring in-house and when you’re deemed worthy you will be taught practical techniques and styles and allowed to represent the organization. Normal clans don’t show you anything practical because it’s a matter of security to keep the tools of their trade hidden, all other clans that do originate from a military style, school, or association and teach basic practical forms for general warfare. The clans who make up the military conglomerate all of course have their own schools and styles they keep to themselves.

Where I train we practice 3 hours of training. 1:30 for the tradicional stuf and 1:30 for fighting (sparring) and its very nice.

I never underestimate. I'm strong as hell, but I've got a bit of a belly. Because as much as I love kung fu, I also love food, and training works upon hell of an appetite.

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Yeah my school also does all hardening against other students. The downside of that is that you have to adjust down to your partners level. My school has a similar origin story to this one and its a non-profit, so they don't have a dedicated gym or lots of attributes. You have your body and (most days) a park.