Old vs New: Manhunter vs Red Dragon

Old vs New: Manhunter vs Red Dragon - Nostalgia Critic

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Which adaptation of the Thomas Harris book is better?
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@doublediamond9226 5 жыл бұрын

I think Brian Cox is closer to how a real psychopathic killer is in reality. I love Anthony Hopkins in his multiple Hannibal Lecter roles, but to me he always felt very gothic, almost Hammer Horror, a contemporary Count Dracula.

@jabine59 2 жыл бұрын

About as scary as Count Chocula....

@casesoutherland4175 Жыл бұрын

As much as I love Anthony Hopkins, Brian Cox is so uncomfortable to be around, especially when he stares at Will!!

@JeffStreamsThings 8 жыл бұрын

I've come to really appreciate Brian Cox's performance - there's something to be said for playing "just" a serial killing genius cannibal, without needing to mythologize him into something superhuman.

@tonymarshall3978 5 жыл бұрын

I agree. You could argue both performances represent different acting styles. Hopkins based his performance on fictional characters like Dracula whilst Cox based his on actual Scottish serial killers he had seen in the news. Difference between traditional acting and modern acting

@DraculaCronqvist 5 жыл бұрын

Which is why I actually like Cox' performance more. Because he plays a Serial Killer. Not that Hopkins did a bad job, not at all. But he makes Hannibal mysterious and, in doing so, even somewhat likeable. He overacts to a very delightful degree and gives Hannibal a certain charme... But true Serial Killers do not have that. Real Life Serial Killers are horrendous people with no morals to speak of, and are abhorrent, disgusting pieces of trash. Thus, it is not a good idea to give Hannibal such a mysterious and somewhat likeable quality - it humanizes people that do not deserve to be humanized. I mean, this is why we have such abhorrent shows as Dexter, a show so devoid of morality that they try to tell us "he only kills the bad guys".

@ginogatash4030 5 жыл бұрын

@@DraculaCronqvist i disagree on that, true real life serial killers are awful people, but it's common among psychopaths to have a strong charisma, it's how they manipulate people, so it only makes sense that Hopkins' Hannibal would have somewhat of a twisted charm to him, Cox's Hannibal is quite intriguing too. we aren't afraid to "like" hannibal because he's a fictional character, but people like him in real life can be really persuasive.

@aaronking5640 4 жыл бұрын

@Alex Ziemba yep it's one of the greatest shows ever, I think mads mikkelsons' portrayal of hannibal is the best

@kevinmorrice 3 жыл бұрын

although i love how cox comes across as a real psychopath, hopkins refined touch is scarier just because hes such a high society gentleman who begins by killing a musician who hut a single wrong note during a performance

@zaxbitterzen2178 Жыл бұрын

I buy Brian Cox as a psychiatric professional more-so than Hopkins. Brian's portrayal is so nuanced, snarky and intelligent you could actually imagine talking to him where Anthony is much more overtly creepy and sinister. Brian's Hannibal doesn't have to prove how much smarter he is he just does it. Brian is the psychotic psychiatrist and Anthony's is the Bond villain.

@TheEternalOuroboros Жыл бұрын

What's your analysis of Mikkelsen's?

@zaxbitterzen2178 Жыл бұрын

@@TheEternalOuroboros much more megalomaniac like a Bond villain of which Mads actually was lol

@TheEternalOuroboros Жыл бұрын

@@zaxbitterzen2178 Lol, thanks for your insight mate

@Sarkartraining 11 ай бұрын

You forgot to compare the MUSIC. For me the music in Manhunter is a strong character in itself. It creates a certain eerie "feel" throughout the movie.

@Seven_Leaf 3 ай бұрын

I thought that In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida was silly.

@Samfan4Films777 2 ай бұрын

@@Seven_Leaf no, the song has a feeling of genius and insanity. It fits the scene so well.

@finsfan86 2 жыл бұрын

Manhunter is the better film in my opinion because, on top of the cast, i love the way Mann shoots the film.

@AnvilPro100 4 жыл бұрын

Ironic that Manhunter focuses more on Graham's family when it doesn't have the ending back at his house

@bradypostma3708 7 жыл бұрын

NC's description of of the detective in Manhunter is closer to how he's described in the book. The fake-out ending and the second climax is in the book, too. In case anyone cares. Also, did you notice that the tooth fairy tries to avoid the letter S when he's speaking? He has a speech impediment he's ashamed of, so he has practiced avoiding the sound he can't pronounce. It's an interesting writing consideration.

@badasscomedy5126 2 жыл бұрын

If I ever decide that I’m gonna adapt the Hannibal Lecter books into movies when I become a film maker, I’ll keep that in mind. But at the same time, I just gotta read the books. Though, I’d need the licensing first

@wardragonprime Жыл бұрын

You are 100% correct. The plot of the original Red Dragon story includes his tragic upbringing.☹

@mrcritical6751 Ай бұрын

I tried that once with an alien race where snake like and hissed out their S’s, it was considered rude to do it cause their tongues popped out. It was hell to write, it just made it near impossible for her to have a conversation

@jabine59 2 жыл бұрын

The setting is important too. The use of a dungeon-like prison in the newer series is ludicrous. The prison in Manhunter felt more realistic, right down to Lecter having copies of the American Psychiatric Association journal on his shelf.

@skeezaworkan Жыл бұрын

For me Red Dragon is just a movie, Manhunter is great cinema.

@PictureProductStudio 8 жыл бұрын

Also, I should say, I really like how "Manhunter", "The Red Dragon" and "Hannibal" TV series used different angles in adapting the novel, sometimes choosing different scenes...

@83jbbentley 3 жыл бұрын

I mean Manhunter came out in 1986. It was way ahead of its time. Not many movie in that period talked of forensic science. It was the first and set the rest of that genre up for what it is now.

@gustavoalmanza2673 Жыл бұрын

Ironic because Petersen would end up on CSI

@nightloaf4983 Жыл бұрын

Always this weird link 🤣

@sebastianfitzptraick7395 4 жыл бұрын

Brian Cox is underrated as Hannibal, sure Hopkins is iconic and brilliant in a movie villain sense but Cox is a real psycho and far more realistic. Manhunter is a masterpiece if I'm honest.

@farlong4948 Жыл бұрын

I find it rather ironic that Norton plays the more down-to-earth, mentally sound version of Graham since, as such movies as American History X and Primal Fear have shown, he’s a CHAMPION at playing unhinged psychopaths who go off the deep end at the slightest provocation.

@rositasultana3958 5 ай бұрын

Let’s not forget The Score with Robert DeNiro and Marlon Brando.

@Danko_Sekulic 2 ай бұрын

@@rositasultana3958 He was just an exvellent manipulator in that one. Nothing particularly " unhinged". What OP truly left out IMO is the Fight Club.

@JustinHuman1269 7 жыл бұрын

I have to go with Manhunter, based on the fact that I own both it and Red Dragon, but I rewatch Manhunter from time to time, but not the latter. This is especially counterintuitive to me since the RD cast is so phenomenal. Manhunter just plays creepier and more disturbing/interesting for me, I guess.

@Seven_Leaf 3 ай бұрын

I pardon you.

@geoffborland8352 8 жыл бұрын

the best portrayal of lector is Hopkins in silence of the lambs. But for me Cox is a better Lector in manhunter than Hopkins is in red dragon.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

AGREED! Anthony Hopkins never acted like Hannibal Lecter from the books. But it didn't matter because he was phenomenal in The Silence of the Lambs. However, he failed to recapture his performance from The Silence of the Lambs in Red Dragon. So he failed at being both.

@75aces97 4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Hopkins was incandescent in SotL, but by his third film playing Lecter he got really hammy.

@Dim4323 2 жыл бұрын

Nah Hopkins is the true lector and we have other movies to develop him and won a oscar

@d.w.strangeman4963 Жыл бұрын

Agree on that but Red Dragon is such a bad film (it gives away the ending in the first ten minutes). Philip s. Hoffman and Emily Watson are the only actors who came out of the film with any credibility (film not career) and both their performances where derogative of the same characters from Manhunter.

@hardcoreking52 Жыл бұрын

I love Cox's performance, I think Hopkins comes off a little hammy is because of the previous films and he had to keep that consistent. However I would still have to say I prefer Hopkins performance better mostly due to his eyes. The way Hopkins acts with just his eyes is terrifying, I can tell he really wants to get Will.

@tehdesp 2 жыл бұрын

As others have pointed out, the fake-out was in the book. The problem with it here is that Will comes away from it looking MUCH prettier than he did in the book so it has almost zero impact on the story, other than to tie up loose ends with Dolarhyde - serving as more of a "cherry on top" than a subversion of expectations. It also makes Lecter's remark about hoping Will isn't too ugly carry much less weight. I get why they did that, though. Leaving Will as a drunk in Florida "with a face like a Picasso" probably doesn't make for a very satisfying movie ending.

@theonlyguiltymaninshawshan7909 3 жыл бұрын

Tom Noonan's creepiness factor has always registered high with me.

@wardragonprime Жыл бұрын

He showed up in Law and Order - SVU. He played a pedophile who took pictures of children. Big boo-boo - one of the children was the daughter of Elliot Stabler who lowered the boom with a literal vengeance!!!😀

@melo13melo 8 жыл бұрын

you should compare the movies to the tv series.

@Laughing_Chinaman 8 жыл бұрын

+melo13melo especially the last season which is almost all red dragon

@longliverocknroll5 8 жыл бұрын

+melo13melo The series wins hands down.

@CrazyKraut20 8 жыл бұрын

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@CrazyKraut20 8 жыл бұрын

Fletchers Flesh too LATE thy HATEis already MINE... and MINE ALONE!!!

@CrazyKraut20 8 жыл бұрын

Fletchers Flesh *fades into distance* HATATATAtatatat.......

@moviemaniac2159 5 жыл бұрын

I just realized now that Hannibal Lecter reminds me of Palpatine.

@czzp77 5 ай бұрын

Ironic.

@SergioMach7 5 ай бұрын

If they ever adapt another book to the screen; Somehow, Hannibal Lecter returned.

@czzp77 5 ай бұрын

@@SergioMach7 "...long have I waited for my grandchild to come home. I never wanted you dead, I wanted you here, ms. Lecter"

@andrewmihovich4252 7 жыл бұрын

I guess I'm saying it again: Critic keeps talking about how Manhunter has so little music, and not a lot of memorable visuals, and the movie I saw had a *heavy* emphasis on both, where the "blank walls" are a deliberate contrast in certain locations and scenes. Also: As far as "just another kill" in Manhunter, there is the part where Dollarhyde...

@DaveJacoby 8 жыл бұрын

I'm strongly in the Manhunter camp here

@nicktennant4301 2 жыл бұрын

Manhunter is more Will Graham’s story than anything, it’s about his struggles coming back, and the ambiguous nature of what actually happened to him works better for me. Red Dragon veers a bit too far into melodrama for my liking, and it completely does away with any subtly or ambiguity. Both are great adaptations of a great novel, BUT, there’s absolutely no doubt that Brian Cox’s understated menace is a million times preferable, to me at least, to Sir Tony’s gurning hamfisting. I love him in SOTL, but any Lecter he did after that is pure pantomime.

@TheeKorovaMilkBar 8 жыл бұрын

I wish the Red Dragon theme played whenever I entered a room.

@sketcharmstrong8491 3 жыл бұрын

I remember seeing manhunter back in high school. Gives me creeps still to this day. Come on, pre-Heat Mann, no contest....

@theonlyguiltymaninshawshan7909 3 жыл бұрын

I tend to agree. Ratner did a fine job, but Michael Mann (the director of Heat, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans, etc.) really delivers on mood and style along with the gritty substance. He's got his classic "Miami Vice" feel going on in Manhunter as well. The guy is a brilliant director.

@muzicrox 8 жыл бұрын

Raloh Fiennes really shines in Red Dragon. his performance is of the wall.

@Seven_Leaf 3 ай бұрын

That smile with Hoffman.

@Jeffrey314159 7 жыл бұрын

Red Dragon is more faithful to the word of the book, but Manhunter is by far the superior film.

@andrewmihovich4252 6 жыл бұрын

Maybe Manhunter is made to "work" *without...* have to phrase it right, to work on its own, specifically so Dollarhyde is a mysterious figure you can only guess at from the outside.

@furioussherman7265 6 жыл бұрын

I think it's obvious that Manhunter would have an edge over Red Dragon in terms of its creepiness and atmosphere. Michael Mann, the director of the movie, was also the screenwriter for the original Miami Vice TV series, a show very well known for its atmosphere and what it could do while its characters were saying relatively little. Meanwhile, the director of Red Dragon, Brett Ratner, is best known for directing Rush Hour, which is about as far away from Hannibal Lecter as it can possibly be.

@maplebob23 8 жыл бұрын

Maybe it's just because I came of age in the 1980s, the greatest decade in the history of decades, but I prefer the style and tone of Manhunter. Red Dragon is good but it feels like an afterthought and the whole franchise would have been better served by remaking Hannibal.

@aaronhinton3446 8 жыл бұрын

*laughs "What's so funny??" "He said the eighties was the best decade!!"

@TroyB42 7 жыл бұрын

I agree that the 80's was the best decade...it's been downhill for music ever since BUTT I like Red Dragon better by a little bit. Both good films but Hopkins works it better as a high functioning serial killer. BTW...Long Live The 80's!!!

@maplebob23 7 жыл бұрын

Troy Beals I can respect that. I wanted to see Hopkins in Red Dragon after I saw Manhunter. And I'm glad Red Dragon was made so I can see it but when it comes to re-watching, I almost always feel more in the mood for Manhunter.

@cameronmonaghan6883 3 жыл бұрын

Ive seen Manhunter then Red Dragon. I prefer Manhunter since it doesn't really on Silence of the Lambs or Lecter and doesn't have to hold your hand throughout. Plus Manhunter feels more gritty and uncomfortable. With Red Dragon it comes across as silly, especially the added Lecter scenes. I also feel like the acting feels more natural in Manhunter, but that could just be the order I saw them in.

@danseth5775 4 ай бұрын

If you haven't seen Manhunter...you really should. You just have to look past the 80s cheese. The scene where Denise Ferina and Petersen figure out where the Tooth Fairy is from watching the home videos is one of the greatest scenes in film history and gives me chills . Not to mention the "In a Gadda da Vida" climax is amazing

@vondas1480 8 жыл бұрын

Can you please bring this series back

@vivianaspgren6554 5 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see him watch Hannibal the series XD Mads mikkelsen's portrayal was nothing short of perfection

@DanTheMan2150AD 5 жыл бұрын

Having watched the Hannibal series in order of release I can still say Manhunter is the best film in the franchise.

@andrewmihovich4252 8 жыл бұрын

Considering how big a fan I am of "Manhunter"... well, I just have to point out one thing, here: You think of the visuals in the two movies and all you can remember from "Manhunter" is white? That covers the scenes focusing on Dr. Hannibal Lecktor -- spelling theirs -- and no others, at least not that I can think of, and that's actually part of the point: In a very visual, colorful movie, Dr. Lecktor resides in another world entirely, and having to be anywhere near him puts Graham under serious stress. When he finally bails on their interview, he walks away nervously, gains speed, and then he finally starts RUNNING out of that place, and all he can see is white, white, white, until finally, he makes it through the doors, looks over the railing, and... he can only stop and catch his breath when he sees the grass. ...so, just to be clear, the *rest* of "Manhunter" has *really* cool visual shots all over the place, while not bogging down the rest of the movie at all.

@andycanoy863 Жыл бұрын

Took me a while to realize that Graham in Manhunter is played by Gil Grissom from CSI Vegas. He looks so young it was hard for me to recognize him.

@detectivesquirrel2621 3 жыл бұрын

The timing in Manhunter works, Red Dragon feels stretched out and shows too much.

@SuperLb14 7 жыл бұрын

the thing with the fake out in red dragon though is that in the books he actually makes people think he's dead, he gets his girlfriend to lock the door and hang a key around his neck, then shoots himself in the head, but it's not him instead it's someone he abducted (i can't remember who) but he got her to put the key around his neck so she would have to feel for the body to find the key to escape, so red dragon did focus more on the story with the fake out

@yoda908 2 жыл бұрын

If you enjoyed visuals for both movies then that's because Dante Spinotti was the cinematographer for both films.

@vivir339 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, Manhunter must have one of the greatest film soundtracks of all time. I mean, screw compelling pieces and orchestras, all you need is one note on an 80's keyboard, and you're good to go!

@monsterhunter66 6 жыл бұрын

Vivir I agree it's very creepy.

@matthalaboo6694 4 жыл бұрын

And the use of "In a gadda da vida"

@inr9751 3 жыл бұрын

Have you heard of The Thing, good sir?

@JoakimOtamaa Жыл бұрын

@@inr9751 Dun-dun.... dun-dun... dun-dun... It's amazingly awesome!

@spuriusscapula4829 Жыл бұрын

One note?

@edwarddore7617 2 жыл бұрын

Manhunter has always been the superior film, that being said the cast of Red Dragon is phenomenal, without them it would have been an OK remake instead of a good remake.

@sebastianemond5313 3 жыл бұрын

They do make Hugh Darcy's Will Graham in the Hannibal series closer to William Petersen's Will Graham.

@RookieActor 3 жыл бұрын

He should do this one again, but with the Hannibal series.

@TheReubenthegreat 8 жыл бұрын

Who else gets the feeling that he's reuploading all old vs new videos so that he can make a new one.

@cofageekus1524 8 жыл бұрын

+TheReubenthegreat Sure hope so.

@QueenCloveroftheice 8 жыл бұрын

+TheReubenthegreat One can only hope. I love this series!

@PictureProductStudio 8 жыл бұрын

Wow. That's a great one. He probably should have revisited the comparison with the series, but it would've been hard, I imagine. Personally, as a Thomas Harris fan, I like all of the five movies and a series. Each one has something different to hook you emotionally. A great franchise.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

Same. :-)

@kristianbrandt3012 5 жыл бұрын

I give it to Manhunter for two reasons, or rather characters. Will and Lecter. Now there is no denying that Hopkins portrayal of Lecter in Silence of the Lambs was brilliant, but I feel they're milking it too much in Red Dragon. Right from the beginning Hopkins is undeniably sinister, which is cool except there is no sense of occation. Brian Cox is more timid, which gives the impression of a sleeping monster that could surface at any time. There's real suspense.

@75aces97 4 жыл бұрын

Agree. Graham and Lector are both unpredictable in Manhunter. You're not quite sure what either of them are capable of in that version. I also like that we learn less about the tooth fairy, which makes Tom Noone's portrayal scarier.

@jdzspace33 3 жыл бұрын

I don't disagree with you but this one is so unbelievably difficult to compare because it is really hard to make the comparisons in a vacuum if you lived through the time period where Red Dragon was released. If you read all of the books and watched Silence and Hannibal then you knew that was the end of Lecter and how you would never see that character being portrayed by that actor ever again. Then all of a sudden we get Red Dragon and we get something we weren't expecting. So Lecter in Red Dragon means more than in Manhunter. There are few more iconic characters, and even fewer iconic characters so intrinsically attached to an actor as Sir Anthony Hopkins and Hannibal Lecter. An unexpected 3rd episode with that character by that actor can't be understated regardless of Cox's performance.

@dougbrowne9890 4 сағат бұрын

@@jdzspace33 Wrong. Cox's Lecktor is superior, because he is exactly like so many real serial killers. I could not find a true serial killer that was anything like Hopkin's character. Manhunter is superior because it is very realistic, while Red Dragon is more fantasy.

@DrDolan2000 10 ай бұрын

As far as character goes, the ones in Manhunter was all-around more interesting Francis is much more mysterious, making him more scary; Will is actually struggling with retaining his sanity; and Lecter seems more in control Got to say, kind of weird how Jack Crawford ISN'T played by Scott Glenn in Red Dragon. I love Harvey Keitel, but they don't look similar enough

@TheTwilitHero 8 жыл бұрын

3:15 Holy shit it's Gil Grissom!!!

@kingradovidv4524 8 жыл бұрын

Winner: The 2013 Hannibal TV series.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

+bigevilworldwide1 Doesn't matter if it got cancelled. The series has made it to three seasons, which is impressive considering the low-ratings. And the show can also come back in a different network.

@judescheidler857 8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym have you not finished the show yet.

@cameronirvine323 8 жыл бұрын

+jude scheidler They plan each seasons ending as a sort of final ending, in which may continue, in risk of being cancelled.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

jude scheidler Despite how season three ended, they can always continue with the story.

@cameronirvine323 8 жыл бұрын

Hank Pym Like what happened in season 2

@KanishQQuotes 8 жыл бұрын

Cox lectar was more realistic, how real life serial killers in prison talk and behave (lot of videos available online) . Hopkins came as theatrical and dramatic.. Broadway killer Just watch interviews of real serial killers , after years in prison. They know why people come to them, and they are mostly sick of talking about this, repeating their ordeal, so they take pleasure in annoying the other person, or even "its easy, you can try it" and then laugh at the horrified "normal person"

@dreamlandnightmare 8 жыл бұрын

+kanishq ruhil Totally agree. Hopkins is a fantastic actor, but his Hannibal is too much of a "mustache twirler". Cox is chillingly naturalistic.

@KanishQQuotes 8 жыл бұрын

***** Yes, that's exactly what came to my mind, after seeing a few interviews of real serial killers, especially those with no remorse. Most of them are tired of discussing the same things, are frustrated and are just sort of looking at the predictable reactions of those interviewing them, a common trait is that they also amuse themselves by going "what had you done" or "you've no idea how it feels, perhaps you could try " or "you almost think the same way don't you"

@wyomingwindage135 7 жыл бұрын

Manhunter. Its a brilliant movie. its WAY better than red dragon.

@Silas_Kow 11 ай бұрын

I really like Brian Cox's performance more, but is with The Tooth Fairy that my lines really get blurred, I find both so good that I don't have an answer about who is better.

@lornarettig3215 2 ай бұрын

Just found this today - great work! Maybe it’s because I’m from the 80s, and I’d already seen and absorbed Manhunter by the time Red Dragon showed up, and it is definitely a close call, but it’s Manhunter every time for me. The whole reason this story is so interesting is because it’s Graham himself that stopped Lector, and their dynamic, which I definitely prefer in Manhunter. I’d watch Red Dragon over Silence of the Lambs any day, too, because I just don’t find Clarice Starling anything like as compelling a protagonist as Graham.

@subtlebluntduality5997 6 жыл бұрын

Sorry but I think Manhunter is better. Silence of the Lambs is better than Manhunter but Manhunter is much better than Red Dragon because of William Peterson's performance.

@jackwells8107 5 жыл бұрын

My real problem with this is that he basically decided Red Dragon was the better movie based on Silence of the Lambs, and what had gone into in previous movies, which is not the same as saying Red Dragon is the better movie, in and of itself.

@rossdiamondthief6627 5 жыл бұрын

Subtleblunt Duality Red Dragon is still a good movie though IMHO

@patzeb21 7 жыл бұрын

Why was the blind woman wearing a watch in Red Dragon?

@caidalee1994 5 жыл бұрын

PatZeb To feel the ticking maybe? It might be for a coping mechanism, instead of its intended purpose.

@jaysea5939 8 жыл бұрын

(Manhunter) Yeah, I was also completely sidetracked by the old labels in the grocery store and if I remember right, at one point the cereal changed to coffee. I don't know if the version I saw was edited or what, but it was really distracting.

@CoffeeManiac20 5 жыл бұрын

Dancy from the tv series is like Petersen in performance.

@LucyLioness100 4 жыл бұрын

Always depends on one’s personal preference. I think there are improved parts in ‘Red Dragon’ (mostly with Ralph Fiennes’ as the villain; sorry but Tom Noonan’s performance is kinda meh to me), but ‘Manhunter’ doesn’t get enough credit

@edwarddore7617 2 жыл бұрын

Tom Noonan was subtle, and brilliant.

@dougbrowne9890 4 сағат бұрын

@@edwarddore7617 True, I think I could take Hopkins in a fight, but Noonan would vaporize me in a hearbeat.

@mediahoodreviews4110 6 жыл бұрын

Funnily enough, I got a trailer for the BFI dvd release of Silence of the Lambs before the video started. Was that intentional?

@alicegraham1571 7 жыл бұрын

Could you review Hannibal Rising? You could make a parody of Silence of the Lambs reviewing Rising. Plus I could see you playing Lecter and Tamara would make a great Starling.

@ShadowSonic2 3 жыл бұрын

He ended up doing that when he did "Hannibal" last year! You're prescient!

@alicegraham1571 Жыл бұрын

@@ShadowSonic2 I saw it and thought it was great! lol thank you i write.

@inr9751 3 жыл бұрын

It's kind of weird how NC listed all those reasons why Manhunter is superior and then turned around and gave the best Lecter title to Hopkins with almost no explanation.

@mkalic 8 жыл бұрын

one of my favorite 80s movies, the music, the style, the grit, everything :)

@JBCBlank 8 жыл бұрын

How did you know what I had for breakfast?

@lostboy5861 Жыл бұрын

I know red dragon maybe looks like it has the “ better cinematography “ but no i love the editing style of manhunter the way the camera would be focused on the floor and move super fast and other unnatural cuts. Red dragon is too clinical for me i really love how weird manhunter was.

@chrisbrasel7509 7 жыл бұрын

red dragon is the better movie to me as Anthony is one of the greatest actors alive.

@abelmantor7557 5 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy these old vs new videos.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

Manhunter is way better than Red Dragon.

@coosoorlog 8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym absolutely superior.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

Coos Oorlog Mah nikka.

@SteampunkCentral 8 жыл бұрын

bigevilworldwide1 The TV series is awesome! Mads Mikkelsen is the definitive Hannibal Lecter.

@multitudeofidols 8 жыл бұрын

+bigevilworldwide1 Nice attempt at trolling.

@SOIBand 8 жыл бұрын

+Hank Pym well thats debatable

@justincarawan-carawanco.pu1639 5 жыл бұрын

That Caspar Jump-scare at the end! You nearly gave me a heart attack!

@valuabledoodles 8 жыл бұрын

Okay, who thought he said Emma Watson at 12:13 and you just sat there like "That doesn't look like Hermione at all."

@andreapuschl6340 8 жыл бұрын

One of the things I didn't get about Red Dragon is why Fiennes didn't gain more muscle for the part. They clearly brought in the lifting and he flexes his tattoo in that one famous scene, but it looks silly because he's got very little muscle on his back. They followed the book really closely and in the book he lifts 300 pounds over his head. Fiennes looks like he does work out but his physique isn't as remarkable as Dolarhyde is described in the book. I don't get it.

@morrisr5586 3 жыл бұрын

The weird background in Man hunter shows how Kubrick faked the Mars landing

@OmnicidalClown1992 Жыл бұрын

While I do agree with most of what the Nostalgia Critic said about Manhunter and Red Dragon, however I would've put Red Dragon's version of the serial killer was overall better. I personally think seeing him struggling to control his murderous intentions, as well as his relationship with that blind woman was generally heart breaking.

@spaceace4387 4 жыл бұрын

I have read the book but haven't seen either version. Which one is better and which one is more faithful to the source material?

@ionlymadethistoleavecoment1723 8 жыл бұрын

Old vs new Red Dawn?

@mikeyeaton4964 6 жыл бұрын

That will be a short video. The Old wins because North Korea cannot invade America.

@TerryFedora 8 жыл бұрын

Love when he does Old Vs New and when it comes to Lecture....I was excited to see this pop up on KZfaq ^^

@Carlos-ne3zf 8 жыл бұрын

I can see Hopkins in any character in any movie without feel inconfortable the guy is fucking scary he is the best Hannibal Lecter

@quasarone3083 4 жыл бұрын

Red Dragon is such an underrated movie. It feels very realistic in a creepy way

@NUCLEARDASH Жыл бұрын

North americans just dont know what realistic means, it is amazing how far you people have come from what is real or not

@quasarone3083 Жыл бұрын

@@NUCLEARDASH I'm neither American nor do i say this movie IS realistic, i said it feels realistic which is a comment more about theme and atmosphere rather then content and actual realism. Stop assuming shit and have some basic literacy instead of having a go at people for perfectly normal statements!

@Sniper_Jacob06 3 жыл бұрын

Holy hell that new thumbnail looks great.

@swagner15333 8 жыл бұрын

Finally somebody else who liked Red Dragon. I love that movie. Fiennes as Dollarhyde is one of the scariest realistic and personal favorite villains ever.

@SM-nz9ff 6 жыл бұрын

Never met anyone IRL who didn't like Red Dragon sooo.......uhhhh.....you need to hang around different people bruh.

@cassia-andor6445 3 жыл бұрын

He’s Voldemort. Of course he’s terrifying.

@robjamesvideo 4 жыл бұрын

Manhunter all the way for me

@johnathanholmes1297 7 жыл бұрын

Can't wait for the Jungle Book Old vs New.

@monsterhunter66 6 жыл бұрын

Zhao Dragión me too

@HeyInternetErichere 5 жыл бұрын

It's been forever since I've seen Manhunter, but you just can't out villain Tom Noonan. So suck it, Voldemort!

@The_Texorcist 8 жыл бұрын

I agree this one is a really hard matchup, both movies are equally enjoyable. I honestly think I prefer Red Dragon in all the categories, not sure if its just a blind love of Hopkins or the fact that while they are basically the same movie they go at telling it in drastically different ways. I prefer the Red Dragon's version of Dolarhyde because all of the sympathetic scenes makes you hope and wish that he can stop, he could put the killing behind him and be with the one woman that will love him despite his physical flaws. Sure its a pipe dream but still a dream that the movie wanted the viewers to long for. Also I like Norton's version of Graham, I preferred seeing a man who while being mentally tormented by what he does for a living still manages to show that he isn't giving into the same darkness as the ones he hunts.Again that's just my personal opinion but I still love Manhunter for the animal it is.

@Giulsgiuls93 8 жыл бұрын

Critic you should definitely check out Hannibal the TV series. And maybe you could make a video about it. Pretty please?

@MsTinkerbelle87 8 жыл бұрын

They're both a great cast its hard to compare the two!!!

@TheCommonGentry 8 жыл бұрын

doug should do an appendix of this with with old vs new vs newer with the short lived tv series, Hannibal.

@melissajackson79 4 жыл бұрын

With Hopkins, it was the eyes and the voice. I had nightmares about Hopkins in that role, not any of the others. The others were great but Hopkins just comes off as demonic.

@ThatOneGirlThatPlays 8 жыл бұрын

Is it just me or was that final music clip featured in The Sims? I feel like it was in TS2.

@SquirellDisciple 5 жыл бұрын

I'd love to see him redo this and include the shows version of the red dragon arch.

@buckwild9168 3 ай бұрын

With all the characters worrying about Will in the book, it feels like Peterson's performance is more spot on and he gets emotional. Ed Norton is the reason I watched the film to begin with, because he is a great actor but it was just a cop doing his job well. The book is very very good and Manhunter is a great version . Tom Noonan is great too, but I also like Ralph Fiennes but he feels like Lector, kabuki theater almost, unlike Noonan.

@MichaelBlanchardII 8 жыл бұрын

I dunno... Sometimes some of his synopsis of the side by sides seems specifically just to tie it up for the final "tie breaker".

@uknownada 8 жыл бұрын

I really like the old "Old vs. New" intro more than the newer one (for the Spider-Man movies). Partly because I imagined it featured a kid fighting his future, old-man self. Instead of the weird "look at my production value!" intro that features a white tomboy growing up into black Gandalf.

@KeybladeMasterAndy 7 жыл бұрын

uknownada I always just interpreted it as neighbors rather than future/past self.

@twofacetoo75 6 жыл бұрын

Y'know just once I'd like to see someone complain about the Critic's new episodes without bringing the cast into it. Newsflash: Rob was originally a guest star in the reviews, and nobody bitched and moaned back then. Just get over it and enjoy the damn videos.

@Dylan03917 6 жыл бұрын

The fuck do you mean “look at my production value”? They are in honestly pretty shit costumes against a pretty shit green screen, but that’s the point, it looks better than the old but it’s not an insane show of production value. That argument makes no sense whatsoever!

@willthomas2310 5 жыл бұрын

It's not really that deep lol

@MforMovesets 5 жыл бұрын

Now it would be Red Dragon vs Manhunter vs Hannibals final season.

@keiththurston3016 8 жыл бұрын

Do a 3 way 7 Samurai v Magnificent 7 v A Bugs Life

@giovanniorellana2200 8 жыл бұрын

Red Dragon is better, in my opinion

@microcassettes 8 жыл бұрын

Really? I thought Manhunter was far superior.

@brettthebest3978 6 жыл бұрын

Dr. Dryadma I think Hannibal tv show was better ;)

@oliverqueen9886 6 жыл бұрын

Brett Bailey i definitely like manhunter the best of all the hannibal movies including red dragon and even silence of the lambs. But its hard for me to compare manhunter with the tv series. The tv series is so much more expanded on and is a prequel to manhunter and sequel to hannibal rising with a few changes and twists to the storyline that u notice in s2 and s3 especially. I would say if you compare the will and hannibal from the tv series to the movies, will is more like peterson and hannibal is more like cox. If i were to rate all in the hannibal franchise from best to worst including tv series seasons, i would say 1. Manhunter 2. Hannibal s1 3. Hannibal s2 4. Silence of the lambs 5. Hannibal s3 6. Red dragon 7. Hannibal 8. Hannibal rising.

@oliverqueen9886 6 жыл бұрын

VincentHanna121 Thank you. Yeah i really liked 1 through 4 on my list alot. But hannibal s3 and the rest of the movies were disapointing at best. There might have been some good moments in them but overall 1 through 4 are just way better in my opinion than the rest. Manhunter definitely is way better than Red Dragon. William Peterson winning over edward norton alone should give manhunter the win. Hes the main character of the film. Edward norton felt like a boy scout. He didnt really show us his gift as well as the other 2 wills do and he felt more like Clarice from silence becuase he was mostly having hannibal help him the whole time on the case. Where in manhunter will mostly did it himself with less help. Better will graham makes manhunter a way better film. He even on this video gave the villian from manhunter the win. Which i was shocked since some people i know say that the villian in red dragon was done better and the main reason why some like the remake better. Also some people out there make a big deal about hannibal in a movie or tv show not being played by Anthony Hopkins. Which is ridiculous for people to not give the tv show a chance or manhunter just because its not hopkins. Brian Cox and Mads do just as great as a job as well. Hopkins was great in Silence but in red dragon his performance to me was bad. The way they showed him get captured like he was jason from friday 13th or michael from halloween getting stabbed by an arrow or something follwed by being shot many times and still surviving. Then the scenes they redid from manhunter looked better from brian. I thought it was funny the way he was being a asshole trying to piss off will. Hopkins felt like in all his scenes he was trying to over do the same stuff we saw in silence being over creepy and scary the whole time.

@oliverqueen9886 6 жыл бұрын

VincentHanna121 I agree with you about manhunter being the best and way better than silence as well. I agree that silence is overated. The only reason why some people make a big deal about silence and red dragon is mostly for hopkins being lector. People really need to give lector a chance in manhunter and the tv show. If season 3 didnt feel like a copy of hannibal, hannibal rising and manhunter all in one season and was more like s1 or 2, i would of put it above silence. S1 of hannibal i really enjoyed alot as well. It felt like a prequel to manhunter seeing garret jacob hobbs for the first time and understanding that speech now from manhunter when hannibal said why shoudnt killing him feel good to will. Plus it was cool to now see will doing more detective work with his special abilitys on many cases. I honestly was surprised with the twist they did at the end. S2 even though it is a change in the story, it still was good but not as good as s1. S3 was nothing new and just a copy of 3 movies put together really changing the story alot to hannibal happening before manhunter than copying manhunter. Hannibal should have just been taken down and arrested by will in s2 finale and then thats the end of it. Them having hannibal on the run like in the movie i didnt care for. Did you know that manhunter inspired csi, law and order and many of the other shows like that? The creators of csi were big fans of manhunter and that is why they wanted william peterson in a lead role on there show. Manhunter for sure stands out the most of all the films. The only thing similar to it is hannibal s1 or some of the csi ncis law and order criminal minds types of shows. I recall also hearing that michael mann also made Miami vice or hawaii 5.0

@benjaminrosloff4518 4 ай бұрын

I was born the same year The Silence of the Lambs came to theaters, and after learning that it won tons of Oscar’s including Best Picture, I was interested in checking it out.