My wife was a competition rider from when she was a child until she was hurt many years later. Some years back she worked out a deal for a few weeks worth of lessons for me. Until you spend time on a horse you really don't have an appreciation for what it's like. It's a mode of transportation with a mind of its own. One of my harder experiences was handling my mare on a ride outside when a storm was coming. Negotiating with your "car" is a unique experience.

As a native Arizonan who's family settled in the Chiricahuas before statehood,...I LOVE these vids. I got my first deer not far from Cochise's Stronghold and within sight of the family homestead. Unfortunately, that was all lost during the huge Horseshoe Fire back in 2011. Please feel free to do more of these.

While this wasn't a boomenstuff video. it was a perfect opportunity to test none explosive material such as the McClellan saddle.

There was a joke about a cavalry memoir: '40 Miles in the Saddle', by Major Assburns.

These guys are great. Their videos are informative, their information is sensible/pragmatic, they're respectful, they seem to try and see both sides of these engagements/events, and they just seem like all-around good fellows.

General Crook said that "Sending the military to capture Geronimo and his band of Apache was like using a brass band to hunt deer."

You two "minor KZfaq celebrities" can pretty much do a video on anything and I'll enjoy it! Great video as always.

New subscriber. Long time Forgotten Weapons subscriber, but just learned about this channel (shame on me). Really like this kind of content. Keep up the good work.

it amuses me the suggested "next video" at the end is Iron Maiden's "Run to the Hills".

Check the photo at 9:20. IAN IS AN IMMORTAL/TIME TRAVELER CONFIRMED

I have to tell you this; at the end of your video, KZfaq recommended "Run to the hills by Iron Maiden." I was a bit startled at the spot on pick from the algorithym. Although I live back east, I've spent many hours with my children walking the trails and seeing the areas that Techumseh and Bluejacket fought The whites over. We only lose if we forget the lessons these people taught us with their blood and effort. Thanks to both Karl and Ian, send our regards to the folks at the R&R!

That's a mighty fine coat you've got on, Ian.

Your efforts are appreciated! Thanks for sharing this with us

I would like to recommend a book called "On the border with Crook" by John G Bourke, Capt. 3rd cavalry USA. He gives a first hand account of Indian wars starting in 1870 with his assignment to Old Camp Grant and Tucson, AZ. and Army life of the period. By the way, it was Gen. Crook who coin the phrase " It takes an Indian to catch an Indian"

I spent the first 12 years of my life on a farm, we had horses and rode a lot, I missed that when we moved to town, but my interests turned to beer and girls, so i never looked back. Been probably 55 years now since I had a horse under me, but this video sure brought back some memories of riding across the prairie of North Dakota.

Benson, Tombstone, Bisbee, Sierra Vista...all great towns and worthy of a visit. The history in this part of AZ is iconic. One of my favorite places

I was very happy to see another video in the "Old west vignette" series. I like WWSD and the match videos, but these are really something special. Thanks!

It was fabulous to see the Stronghold through the eyers of the horseback rider. I had seen the horse trail intersect with the hiking trail on the way up to the tanks. Thanks for posting this.

Great stuff, and AZ landscapes are superb.

I thought the history and modern horse ride was a great combo. History is richer when experienced, like the ride y'all took and like the videos y'all make. Thanks!

My son is 15 months old and he just fell asleep while we're chilling on the couch watching this. It's a good thing. All hail gun Lucifer shooter of targets faller off ladders taster of the Russian mre

Guys, I saw one of your other vignettes and that started me on a marathon of them. It's great, informative stuff told well. But what was almost heartbreaking is when you asked for comments on a video to show that "we have evolved"...and had to disable the comments. That speaks awful volumes about how much evolving we have yet to go, and to me, was just as powerful as the story itself. Thank you for what you do. As an aside, if you want to see places where Native Americans and early settlers clashed, you might check out Fort Gaines, GA and the Creek Indian wars. About a century later, Geronimo was kept as a prisoner a few hours away in Pensacola, FL.

I love these south west history videos. I've lived in Az all my life so seeing its history which is hidden in rock stacks literally is so awesomely interesting

I was fortunate to spend over 4 years living in the Rim area and up through the White Mountains and have hunted, trapped and fished all over the north eastern quarter of the state...... And what a beautiful area it is, one of the most beautiful in our country if not the whole world...... And a history rich landscape in any direction you look. Thanks guy's for bringing it fourth for everyone to see..... If you could do some of this up on the Rim l think it would be well received and the footage would be breathtaking......

So glad to see more Old West Vignettes, keep up the great work Ian and Karl

~ 9:00 “…a *little bit* of a massacre…”[emphasis mine] - never considered massacres to be ‘spectral’ (ie. spectrum-like in character). But nothing mars this outstanding inrange content. I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: while recognising how costly these vignettes are to bring to available video, it is truly exceptionally valuable. It’s a big reason why I continue to support the channel financially, and feel blessed that I can. Thank you Ian and Karl.

Love this stuff, and the whole vignettes series. Very interesting. Great that you guys live nearby and can do this stuff. It really does mean a lot more in a ground level view. Many thanks. I will put this on my list for whenever i visit AZ

My only vacation in the US was 11days in Az, on our way to Tombstone and Bisbee we saw those mountains in the distance, I wanted to see more but couldn't so thanks for taking me back there.

The Apaches have the most bad ass wild land fire fighting crews I have ever worked with

My absolute favorite channel together with Forgotten Weapons and RIA

Huh. When I was a kid we had a horse called Chiricahua Scout. He was an Appaloosa. Great horse. Thought he was a dog. :)

I love watching these types of videos y’all do on inrange. Thanks!

Thanks for treating this video and the history with the respect it deserves. It really means a lot.

All I kept thinking of was Ian's scalp hanging from a lance. Love these vignettes.

I know it's not the main crux of what you two do, but I really do enjoy these Old West Vignettes. The Southwest is absolutely beautiful and I hope I get a chance to see it for myself. Happy New Year to the both of you!

Can’t wait to do that ride. Have done a short one up north of Phoenix but this is in the heart of the area I’ve been reading about...

Guys, thanks, excellent and great that you also talking about the realities of moving across great distances on horseback

Some of my favorite videos on KZfaq are the vignette videos. Thank you

thanks guys, I love history and making history interesting is what you are doing. History is relevant even today, we can learn from it or suffer the same lessons again, our pick.

They are sure footed horses! Thank you yet again for excellent content.

It is so cool to see the additional history from the Fort Huachuca area! Thank you!

Thank you for this wonderful video. I am in awe by the landscape and the history attached to it. Looking forward to visit the area one day myself.

Love the Vignettes guys! I love seeing interesting history about my home state.

After reading the autobiography of Tom Horn and Scouting on Two Continents by F.R. Burnham, both of whom write about scouting with Al Sieber after the Apache breakout from San Carlos, you really gain an appreciation for the terrain and the hardships both sides had to endure, as well as the hardiness of the people who were masters of the frontier. It's one thing to read about it, but it truly gives it new depth to visualize it through your wonderful content. Thanks for sharing!

I love this channel and everything it represents. Thank you!!!

Awesome awesome video! That’s why I love supporting you guys!

Oh man do I miss AZ. I was fortunate enough to live there for 12 yrs up to 2015. I had many a ride on horseback during that time. Even had a few chances to do midnight rides (as we called them) under a full or near full moon. Quite a breathtaking experience. AZ will always be a second home (if not a first home again in the future). Thanks for the video and history. I always enjoy the Old West Vignettes.

thank you so much for these kind of videos Ian and Karl! as someone who's lived their whole life in South-Eastern and Eastern AZ i really enjoy how good of a job you guys do at representing the rich history we have. There are so many legends and historic areas around here, i cant wait to see what you guys do for the next old west vignette! also if you need any ideas or pictures or references for the area i would be more then happy to help!

Very cool to give the guy a plug at the end. It's a great service as these can be some exhausting hikes.

Karl ruffling that horse's mane was super cute. Great video guys. Thanks for the history lesson.

Great video. Always love more of these kinds of videos when possible.

Was there this past summer. Those mountains are bad ass. Very steep with incredible views.

Awesome video guys, really puts the history in perspective.

Love these videos, guys. I think it would be really cool to see a "new west" vignette about the Yarnell Hill fire and the 19 hotshots that were killed there in 2013.

Hi guys, I'm from England and I have always been so interested in this topic. Thank you for making the video, it was so interesting, I hope some day to do what you just did, and also to go to Tombstone also. Many thanks guys ☺

Absolutely beautiful countryside! Very interesting video, thank you!

Thanks for the history lesson and Beautiful scenery . Ron

I'll be in that area for the whole winter , I'll have to check it out. Thanks for the video.

I spent a lot of time at Ft Huachuca and visited Ft Bowie and Tombstone, and hope to make it back to the area. Really enjoy these kinds of videos.

My family used to own a ranch down in Brady Texas. Near our cabin was a rocky creek bed and there were a lot of those grinding stone holes dotting that whole area along the creek. I was just a kid so I really didnt appreciate the history behind them until now. Just looking at the holes you can imagine these people going about their daily lives. Awesome stuff

Love the variety guys awesome as always thanks

Loved this. I was just in Tombstone and I find myself gazing East to the dragoons wondering what it’s like in there. Super informative.

I first learned about 'ambling horses' in the context of medieval Europe. Travelers would ride the ambling horse, and also trail a pack horse and/or a riding horse. Ambling horses have a particular gait when walking which evenly distributes the up and down motion and is more comfortable for the rider. Some breeds of horses amble naturally, most horses can be trained to use the gait. Modern ambling horses, often called 'walking' horses, are used in competitions of trained horses. The walking horse's gait also makes for a smoother carriage ride and they are often seen in that role. People of yore saw and used horses very differently from how we do today.

I love your historical videos.

Great Vedic guys! Very interesting and informative!

Your comment about how riding a horse can be a real workout. Many years ago,I read Charles Darwin's account,The Voyage of the Beagle. He spent time in South America,and the vaqueros mentioned just how sore they would be if for any reason their lifestyle was interrupted by periods of rest or inactivity. The only way a person can ride for long periods is to do it constantly. Nice little vignette. Seeing that terrain makes the difficulties of the Apache campaign much more comprehensible. Cheers.

In 1992 I participated in an 1880’s Cavalry Re-enactment that consist of a 3 day ride/2 night camp (21 of us on horseback) from the Cochise Hotel to Tombstone. We began the adventure with a night in the Cochise Hotel and ended it riding straight down the Main Street in Tombstone. I still have great photos (color and black & white). 1st we camped in the Stronghold, 2nd night we camped on top of the mountain, the 3rd day was dusty ride thru the desert to Tombstone.

And you put Iron Maiden in a Link! Nice!!! Beautiful country and thanks, this was another excellent video.

"Gun Jesus rode in upon a white horse..." Nice video Karl! As a guy from out east, I have never been out west and would love to experience this stuff for myself. Until then, this is a wonderfully informative and entertaining substitute :)

These videos really are amazing.

That horse ride looks very relaxing. I'd love to go on one.

love your work lads

One of your best videos ever.

Thanks for the info.. my daughter will love this ride..

this was a rly cool one thanks y’all

Ian... Like your range coat! Right out of "High Plains Drifter"! LOL

Beautiful terrain. Stuff like this makes me want to move back to AZ.

Thanks guys! I really enjoyed it!

I really enjoyed this. Nice job.

Love these videos about history!!

amazing video's keep up the great work guys :D.

"This isn't an 'Old West'" *Looks at Ian "Maybe it is"

I lived in that part of AZ for years and never knew about that ride. Something to do if I ever get back.

Great video

Oh, great - first Ian's throwing his guns around and now he's spitting on sacred land! He's a menace, I tell you! But, seriously, great vid. Your explanation of how one can see dust clouds from great distances really shed some light on the way the Apache (and others) could see and prepare for "battle". Also, John Wayne movies would lead one to believe that traveling 50+ miles a day on horseback was routine; thanks for dispelling that Hollywood BS. Thanks for doing this. I look forward to more!

Enjoyed the video thanks for sharing!

Great video sirs

Really enjoyed this video. You need to include a link to Karl's earlier video that you mentioned. The whole time I was waiting for you to break out the rifles.

Ian Looks like Doc Holiday! A true renaissance man.

I really have to get out and enjoy the area more.

Love the info....God Bless

14:18 The man on the right wearing the pith helmet is General George Crook, known to the Apache as Nantan Lupan, in English "Chief Wolf".

Very interesting video thank you so much.

Nice weather. Nice horsey.

Great video! It probably would have helped to have some drone video but they were far less prevalent. and capable five years ago and probably not controllable from a moving horse. As far as your riding experience I am surprised that R&R didn't offer a quick lesson on horsemanship, one of my nieces had a job with the county teaching horsemanship to the Rangers who are now 'city boys' that rarely leave their air conditioned cruisers, back in my youth they were often boys that grew up on the extensive local surrounding family farms. Another problem that Karl may have encountered is an obstinate horse, they are less expensive to purchase as my niece often commented. The county commissioners didn't purchase properly trained horses expecting her to rehabilitate and train the horses they bought on sale from someone's brother. The final point on this that I'll mention is that these horses walk these trails daily, they have learned just what needs to be done to minimize their exertions on what to them must be a boring job. It does make me wonder if their spirits might be lifted by being taken for a 10 mile 'run' occasionally. I wouldn't recommend that in the filmed location, the presence of those rocks in the path would make footing dangerous. If my beloved Lakota Sioux squaw* was still with me I'm sure she would insist on showing you (with my fumbling paleface northern European assistance) your program from the Indian* viewpoint. *Dear Haters and democrats: My beloved was proud to be 'my squaw' and would tell people so. She would also tell them that the Apache were "not her people, she was Lakota Sioux" because Indians are not all alike and 'reservation Indians' of ANY tribe and not the same as those who left (her parents before WW2). I'll leave it to others to describe that major division of the 'Indian' experience. The haters, et al, will interview the 'Indian activists' for their viewpoint but please be aware they speak only from their white hating reservation perspective. Also please note that these activists and their democrat allies are the only ones that object to the identifier 'Indian' being used as a group or class identifier, in more specific terms you would use the specific tribe which they would call "my people"...

Have you guys ever read a book called Empire of the Summer Moon? I highly recommend it.

I spent a few days at a Buddhist meditation retreat in Cochise Stronghold. It was one of the most beautiful places I've ever been.

Thank you for your work

Fantastic more....more....more!

Should have spoken to the man in the calvery uniform...nice video...I have visited Geronimo's cell at Fort Sill Oklahoma...