War for Apachería 1 - Fighting With the Federal Government in the 1870's

War for Apachería 1 - Fighting With the Federal Government in the 1870's - Part 1 of 2

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The war for Apachería and the entire southwest, started in the 1500's with Spanish colonialism and first contact with the Conquistadors. That war ultimately turned into war with Mexico, but culminated into a battle for existence against the US military, Mexico, and American settlers after the Mexican-American war ended with the Treaty of Guadalupe.
In this video series we discuss some of that history, the people who fought on both sides, the gear they used and then demonstrate some of it with competitive live fire demonstrations.

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@allentempleton2429 3 жыл бұрын

Content like this is why traditional TV is obsolete.

@tamlandipper29 3 жыл бұрын

True, except KZfaq has done its level best to fail the channel. Direct sponsor if you can, chaps.

@kungfukitten6735 3 жыл бұрын

Obsolescent

@Arrowheadbob 3 жыл бұрын

Excellently done!

@PhycoKrusk 3 жыл бұрын

I believe you mean, "Out of Scope TV"

@thestrangegreenman 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely right!

@left-handedtexan2658 3 жыл бұрын

Props to Kevin for his run with the single action Army.

@johnhudak3829 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed. The way those rounds smacked that steel was impressive! 45 Colt is no joke.

@T3hderk87 3 жыл бұрын

Dang right, excellent shooting

@jjkroll32 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin is a fine guest. Clearly knowledgeable and quite comfortable on screen. Thanks to him for giving of his knowledge and time.

@azberd 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin is really good people

@Archangelm127 3 жыл бұрын

I agree. Respect from the WWII reenacting community, Kevin!

@mattr3873 3 жыл бұрын

in range is so so solid, nuanced conversations about unspoken conflict

@Vagabond671 3 жыл бұрын

@@donjuanmckenzie4897 Reservations are land in which you concentrate refugees, prisoners, political dissidents and other groups of people into. What's not to understand?

@coleparker 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vagabond671 How about the term Ghettos instead.

@coleparker 3 жыл бұрын

@@Vagabond671 Today's reservations are considered semi-independent nations, and their govts deal only with the Federal Govt, not the State govts, about a lot of different issues.

@InrangeTv 3 жыл бұрын

Semi-Independent. Lol. Right. The system is setup to ensure the reservations typically have the worst of all possible situations; it is an ongoing blight on our history since the death camp called Bosque Redondo and the "Long Walk".

@kieran2221 3 жыл бұрын

@@InrangeTv Well said. Even passing understanding of the situation shows that the reservations were ethnic cleansing on a vast scale.

@BigBadBalrog 3 жыл бұрын

Considering my Texas public education, these historically slanted videos never fail to teach me a ton of interesting and nuanced history and I love it

@billstevens5277 3 жыл бұрын

And I get to live in the middle of it. I even got to speak to Cochise's grandfather.

@ColinBFClarke 3 жыл бұрын

Not just Texas, lack of education about Indian wars is everywhere.

@thinnedpaints6503 3 жыл бұрын

Man, the huge thump of those old rifles going of is really something to see

@Arrowheadbob 3 жыл бұрын

And as much fun as you can have! Love em.

@BIGVINNY99 3 жыл бұрын

It was very interesting to see how Karl was better with rifle and Kevin was better with pistol. Would love to have heard how each shooter felt about their own as well as their firearms performance after the match. Either way, awesome video! Totally made my morning coffee time.

@sworntoavenge 3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure we'll get more videos, judging by the '1' in the title

@Adamsadventures83 3 жыл бұрын

Looked like Kevin would have faired better on the rifle in the beginning but he was shooting way low, maybe he hadn't tested his loads at that range? Looked like once he adjusted his sights he was pretty spot on for the rest of the run

@DanteQuixote89 3 жыл бұрын

Aho Yá'át'ééh! Greetings from the Navajo Nation. You make a fine Apache! Excellent content, and props where they're due!👊... Tommy Lee Jones' character in The Missing, his name is mispronounced. His name doesn't mean "Shit For Luck", but "Ain't Scared Of Shit"... 🦊🤙

@hickok45 Жыл бұрын

Great video!

@jamesgreen5298 3 жыл бұрын

For being near 150 years old, it's wonderful to see that old rifle function so well.

@gunnerdupree3406 3 жыл бұрын

Freaking rad man! Forgotten History, black powder guns, and a match. All in one video. This was very awesome to see. Karl you were slayin it with that Springfield!

@InrangeTv 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@kennethmackintosh4690 3 жыл бұрын

This type of practical history content is amazing. I’d love to hear Karl’s opinion on his boots at the end of the match. It’s such a shame History/Discovery channels are more interested in scripted reality tv. Plus amazing shooting with a single action Kevin.

@observed00 3 жыл бұрын

Commenting before I even watch. Thanks Karl. The so called Apache Wars is one of my favorite subjects of study. And I have a hobby of visiting the 'battle' sites in central Arizona. Been looking fwd to this series of yours. Thanks.

@InrangeTv 3 жыл бұрын

That is awesome!

@deanranged3762 3 жыл бұрын

Damn, that 50-70 sounds like a bowling ball hitting the steel.

@xzqzq 2 жыл бұрын

I would love to try 45-70, .45-90, and .45-110: reportedly the sales of the latter skyrocketed after the ' Down Under ' movie....

@MisterNoisy 3 жыл бұрын

Woo! Always nice when more historical content gets posted.

@food_toobs8333 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you, Karl for bringing more of this history to light

@bradmarthafocker4285 3 жыл бұрын

Absolutely badass! The video is so cool it hurts. Hearing the history of the time period, along with the history of the gear, immediately followed by a demonstration of the gear on the clock was an absolute treat. Kevin fit right in as well, and I hope to see more of him on the channel. Well done.

@macharim 3 жыл бұрын

The revolvers load surprisingly fast even by modern standards, I would have expected that "ramrod" method to be a lot slower.

@PhycoKrusk 3 жыл бұрын

Compared to moon or half-moon clips or speed loaders, they _are_ a lot slower. Comparing like to like (loading one cartridge at a time), they are a little slower, but if you get some practice in, you can burn it down. Compared to cap & ball? Like lightning

@LenKusov 3 жыл бұрын

@@PhycoKrusk Cap and ball's a LITTLE slower with good paper cartridges but not by much, the ramming step is a bit slower because you have to actually seat the bullets properly instead of just punching out empty cases and if you've not got a good capping tool it'll REALLY slow you down, but a decent cap-and-ball gun is surprisingly fast if you take the time to make good cartridges for it. It's especially fast if you use hollow-base conicals, which are undersized until the powder goes off and make seating the bullet a lot less effort, at the cost of some velocity.

@xzqzq 2 жыл бұрын

@@charlessalmond7076 Aside from my 1851 Navy repro, I've avoided single action revolvers due to the reloading hassle. Watch a You Tube video of a guy switching cylinders on his single action Ruger .357, thinking that would work also on cap & ball revolvers with easily removable cylinders....Not Colts, of course. Half a dozen loaded, capped cylinders on belt pouches.....

@PJA264 3 жыл бұрын

yessss two of my favorite things: black powder and underrepresented history.

@two_owls 3 жыл бұрын

Need a YT channel focusing exclusively on that stuff. We can call it "Marginal Black Powder"!

@jerrybrown6169 3 жыл бұрын

about 40 years ago I raced my apache friend up south mountain in phoenix. She was a large girl and was 4 or 5 months pregnant, I weighed 160 lbs and worked out or ran everyday. She passed me like I was standing still very early in the race and just sort of glided to the top.

@martinh2783 3 жыл бұрын

@@madawcofarreat2348 Obviously we are not exactly the same but every human deserve the same respect. But then there is the ass hats, but they are individuals who deserve no respect.

@johnbeauvais3159 3 жыл бұрын

My mother grew up on a reservation back in the early 60s, she used to talk about how all the Indians were very large compared to the white people and her uncle “Gator” (Yes that was his name) was one of the strongest people she had ever seen so I would believe it.

@BicyclesMayUseFullLane 3 жыл бұрын

@@madawcofarreat2348 No, it just means they have a less sedentary lifestyle. It's the reason why some guy in Lycra and racing bicycle can and will get passed while climbing the Swiss Alps by some local Swiss business man in a suit with some shitty bicycle, or how the champion of some old international bicycle hillclimb race was the local mailman.

@GuntherRommel 3 жыл бұрын

Think about North Africa in 42 if there had been integrated indigenous units, if the pregnant women can do that.

@normtrooper4392 3 жыл бұрын

@@BicyclesMayUseFullLane That guy certainly did a great massive leap didn't he?

@Gagis 3 жыл бұрын

Modern matches with blackpowder era gear is always fascinating to see.

@neonturtle6480 3 жыл бұрын

Loved It, like an old west vignette meets a match. I just have to watch part two!

@bradleygraham896 3 жыл бұрын

' Once they moved like the Wind " ............Enthralling and informative and I thank you for not wearing a loincloth.

@unkwnuser01 3 жыл бұрын

Reloading these during combat must have been stressful. I would have dropped a few lol

@CarlosRios1 3 жыл бұрын

That's why we find intact cartridges in old battlefields.

@pscwplb 3 жыл бұрын

You wouldn't be the only one. Unfired cartridges are a very common find on old battlefields.

@JackHiper 3 жыл бұрын

Not as bad as combat but competition and the camera always ramp up stress. Turn off the camera and take away the other guy and your skills suddenly get better.

@xzqzq 2 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed their reenactment of panicked 7th Calvary troopers, armed with single-shot 45-70 trapdoor Springfield, attempting unsuccessfully to fend off superior numbers of opponents armed with repeating rifles, and bows / arrows, both with much higher rate of fire....

@alanmoberly64 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. I cannot imagine trying to run those long guns while under fire. It was difficult enough in competition.

@Brianmaloof 3 жыл бұрын

Love your stories, I'm Navajo. For years I gathered stories from old stories from elders.. Ill be happy to tell some about the last Navajo war chief..

@gnarshread 3 жыл бұрын

I absolutely love this manly because its history I know nothing about. I certainly appreciate 2 knowledgeable gentleman going out of their way to get that knowledge out there.

@friendorfoe837 3 жыл бұрын

I really like how varied and informed your guests are. It's great you bring other's knowledge, other's opinions, other's voices to your channel.

@jordanwalsh1691 3 жыл бұрын

Not sure who did the camera work but please let them know they did a great job! The pan along the 1870, and the move in to Kevin's hat badge were very smooth, and provided useful detail.

@InrangeTv 3 жыл бұрын

Neither Ian nor his wife had anything to do with the production of this video.

@SlavicCelery 3 жыл бұрын

@@InrangeTv Maybe the guess is Karl's chutzpah? Or just a skilled person with a camera. I think chutzpah is still the right answer. Even though Sinistral rifleman's voice appears in the video (if my ears are correct).

@rob9875 3 жыл бұрын

@@InrangeTv Ian is married?

@Pheonixco 3 жыл бұрын

@@rob9875 Ian's mentioned his wife a few times during his Q&A sessions but, honestly I feel his, Karl's, and their associates personal lives are none of our business. Its irrelevant to the content.

@Grail_Questing 3 жыл бұрын

Outstanding!!!!!!!!!!!!! The best Old West content on KZfaq!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@unboxerman12 3 жыл бұрын

This was awesome, I love seeing you create content you are passionate about.

@jjdogbutte 3 жыл бұрын

Love the Southwest history! It was a sad period in our history and you can still see the scars in Dene people today.

@SirBoden 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating, respectful and kind. I love this kind of information. Bravo

@mr-century 3 жыл бұрын

Big time some of the best content on KZfaq, keep doing fantastic independent work InRangeTV.

@JohnHansell62 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone else find Karl’s run with the 1870 to be extremely satisfying. He executed those reloads so smoothly.

@davidhall2523 3 жыл бұрын

This is peak InRange - the best of your historical pieces combined with the best of your shooting pieces. Seeing the historic(al?) weapons and gear used on the clock was the icing on the cake.

@anthonywilson7304 2 жыл бұрын

It was brilliant to actually see these old rifles and pistols in action. Not as loud as I thought but the effort to load and aim, particularly under pressure and a prolonged period was great to watch. These men should be commended for their knowledge and passion and providing us with an awesome historic display. Cheers boys.

@danebourne3375 3 жыл бұрын

Love the historic posts and that competition looked like a ton of fun.

@Happymrsnowman 3 жыл бұрын

Wow, huge props to Kevin. 1 handed with that Colt, absolutely rocked it. Also, really impressive how fast both of you reloaded those revolvers on the clock.

@johnhudak3829 2 жыл бұрын

I can't even begin to tell you how much I enjoy your channel, and presentations like this. Your grasp of history, and your ability to talk about all the COOL details that I really want to know about is nothing short of impressive. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!

@thejoseph9064 3 жыл бұрын

Speaking of Geronimo, we used to run to a little site during PT on Fort Sill called "Geronimos Grave." It was a 3 or 4 mile run straight uphill from the Barracks but it was sobering to say the least.

@TheArmourersBench 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin ran it like a pro. Great stuff.

@britishmuzzleloaders 3 жыл бұрын

Great vid. Great historical shooting!

@tugboatyan 3 жыл бұрын

Take my esprit de corps as I cheer on each hit like I'm actually at the match. Next local multigun can't come soon enough... That history lesson and the kit walkthrough and discussion are equally wonderful gems as well. Looking forward to Part 2 as y'all continue to earn every cent of my Patreon pledge! #ViewerSupported

@Andy81ish 3 жыл бұрын

I love to see that the closer you get the more misses due to breathing control. Goes to show how important fitness and practice under different conditions matters.

@seanpdolan99 3 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed this, can't wait to see more.

@timberdrifter8225 3 жыл бұрын

im reading the Apache wars by paul andrew hutton right now. so this was particularly interesting to me. great video. take care

@jfcard0055 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic book!

@bushmansa518 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks you InRange, that was great to watch and learn.

@InrangeTv 3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@civilwarwildwest 2 жыл бұрын

We got a good briefing on clothes, we got some range time, and some deets on our wingman Mickey Free. Great video dude! And a bonus 5 points to Gryffindor for using the name Apacheria.

@soylentgreen7074 3 жыл бұрын

This is the stuff I’m subscribed to inrangetv for. Not only are we told the history, but you put it in practice. I can only watch so many documentaries with period photos and information but seeing you 2 put it in practice is going the extra mile that really makes it more interesting. I do as much as I can in my collecting and shooting, but seeing it on the clock with you 2 dressed the part is fascinating. Great video guys and definitely looking forward to part 2 and other things like this in the future, or the past.

@Chiller01 3 жыл бұрын

I figured Karl as a spiritual Apache. He certainly refuses to stay within the boundaries of appropriate 21st century culture.

@Fauxbia 3 жыл бұрын

Man this is soooo good, thank both of you and all your crew!

@warehousetroll-dp4kt 3 жыл бұрын

some of your best content yet. thank you for the all hard work. Kevin was a perfect fit for this too

@SuperOtter13 3 жыл бұрын

Really appreciate this content gentlemen. Just wonderful. The Apache wars in the Arizona territory has always been one of my favorites to study. Thank you for keeping these coming

@turbografx16 3 жыл бұрын

This was a great video, Karl. Thanks to your guest!

@civiprepper 2 жыл бұрын

Excellent effort and content guys, thanks for making and sharing it.

@gregcampwriter 3 жыл бұрын

The pistol portion is an illustration of why some folks carried more than one pistol--and a big knife for when the situation got real.

@amcconnell6730 3 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this. :) I liked that 10 years ago the "white man fighting on the renegade side" would have just been called "a renegade". I was surprised at how little smoke there was from the black powder ammo, having been bought up on Holywood pirate movies.

@dragonstormdipro1013 3 жыл бұрын

Even black powder of today is quite refined

@KR-hg8be 3 жыл бұрын

@@dragonstormdipro1013 yeah there isn't really a market for really cheap junk black powder anymore and modern production machinery and quality control is better

@olafervin 3 жыл бұрын

I really enjoy the history lesson preceding the shoot out. I'd love to see more of this format.

@iainwalker8701 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin is a really good presenter, seems a bit nervous but still very clear. Hope you get him on again.

@RT81775 3 жыл бұрын

I wish I could thumbs up this video multiple times. I’ve never heard of this war before. Looking forward to part 2.

@morgunfreedom4346 3 жыл бұрын

Kevin started a little slow with the carbine but really shined with that single action👍👍👍

@ryanvargas4889 3 жыл бұрын

So stoked on this video and subject matter.

@fancyultrafresh3264 3 жыл бұрын

Very very rarely am I this excited for the follow-up video. Bravo as always InRange.

@iLLeag7e 3 жыл бұрын

Cool! I sat down to rest my weary haunches and behold! 25 minutes of extra good content to enjoy from inrangetv! Thanks Karl!

@threeoeightwadcutter2820 3 жыл бұрын

Maybe one of your best videos. Thanks a lot for sharing

@ThanksforcensoringmeYoutube 3 жыл бұрын

Hands-down, one of my favorite channels on KZfaq. I LOVE the historical videos on InRange more than probably any other topic, and I am aspiring gunsmith, so that says a lot considering the other content y’all put out. I’d love the privilege of shooting with y’all someday out in your beautiful stretch of country.

@Mike-kr9ys 3 жыл бұрын

Excellent! Very interesting & informative. Kevin was an excellent guest.

@sjohnson4882 3 жыл бұрын

I read somewhere (I still have the book buried in my basement but don't remember the name) that Mickey Free was described as Half Irish, Half Mexican, and Whole Son of a Bitch.

@sjohnson4882 3 жыл бұрын

The name of the book is "Fighting Indians of the West" by Schmitt and Brown.

@clints4656 3 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah Karl this is awesome thanks man!

@matthaught4707 3 жыл бұрын

I always enjoy your Old West content, because I know it's gonna have good technical information, a balanced and nuanced look at the socio-political environment of the time, and little things that only come from actually using these old guns under time pressure.

@jimbetzing3587 3 жыл бұрын

I don't believe I'd want neither of these two gents shooting at me. Very entertaining!

@cooliobeans7034 3 жыл бұрын

love this series you guys have made, beatifully done

@aidanfarnan4683 3 жыл бұрын

Great Video: I love your old west Vignettes and I love practical shooting matches with old gear, so I loved this. I look forwards to more

@AYoutubeAccountName 3 жыл бұрын

This is the content I love

@d.unterreiner161 3 жыл бұрын

I am so excited!

@charlescomly1 3 жыл бұрын

You both do a great job at portraying your part, and your firearms give a good example of the difficulty faced by people using them in that time period, I can't wait for part two, thanks.

@argyle1812 3 жыл бұрын

Great episode!

@jeanniebuchholz9923 3 жыл бұрын

That was fun to watch, thanks for sharing. I'm eagerly awaiting part 2 and discussion. Good luck and God bless.

@Jackedhobbit 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video great job Karl and Kevin. I’m sure a high quality video like this takes more time and effort but it’s worth it. Really enjoyed the video. Ps Kevin was a great in range guest.

@mmelgoza1983 3 жыл бұрын

I love these vids! Brilliant!

@Sedan57Chevy 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome combination of historical commentary and practical application of the technology. Kevin seems like a great person and I really hope he's around for more InRange content in the future. He really did some work with his Colt!

@beardannyboy 3 жыл бұрын

Neat! I'm looking forward to part 2

@elijahbrooks8589 3 жыл бұрын

Finally a history video!! Thank y’all

@unclebob540i3 3 жыл бұрын

I love the deep dives into Arizona history. Your shooting clearly shows the superiority of lever rifles and break action revolvers. For those who could afford them of course!

@Arrowheadbob 3 жыл бұрын

Very well done, gentleman. Factual and enjoyable to watch.

@LIETUVIS10STUDIO1 3 жыл бұрын

That was a wonderful video. That "yahoo" from Kevin at the end was deserved, that was some good pistol shooting.

@nickoneill4323 Жыл бұрын

Solid video and wonderful information thank you!! As a minor correction to your cavalry rider, understand the smaller the spur the more aggressive it actually is. Traditional cavalry round ball spurs are actually considered extremely aggressive. Generally the larger spurs with far larger rowels, have greater surface area and are less aggressive to your animal. Cavalry did not have the luxury of constantly training their animals themselves constantly therefore had to have high response out of their horses. Again wonderful video!

@nickronin9618 3 жыл бұрын

excellent content and information as always! much appreciated 👍

@richardelliott9511 3 жыл бұрын

Loved it, great mix off history lesson and shooting demonstration!

@austindavis1686 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video and history, cool to learn about something you've never heard about

@currentriver4951 3 жыл бұрын

Always great info!!! Keep up the great work !!!!!

@connordemareo6757 3 жыл бұрын

Well done video. The content I love to see.

@johngerson7335 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video Karl, awesome display of skillsets from both you and Kevin as well. I was watching the whole time and remarking to myself " ..can you imagine having to utilize either of these weapons systems in a real firing engagement?.." Holy crap! Thanks for the great content!