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How Speedrunners Broke the WEIRDEST King's Quest

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OneShortEye

OneShortEye

Күн бұрын

King's Quest: Mask of Eternity is by far the most broken game in the series. Join me as we explore the speedrun and discover how speedrunners have managed to beat it in under an hour.
/ oneshorteye
This is an Any% Speedrun of Mask of Eternity with added commentary, explanation, and visuals.
Want to learn how to speedrun this game? Join the King's Quest Speedrunning Discord: / discord
If you'd like to see the run without commentary, you can watch that here: • Mask of Eternity Run w...
Chuck's Guide to Getting the Game Running: www.speedrun.com/kings_quest_...
The following people were kind enough to answer my many questions about the run: ChuckGrody, Korzic, and rtrger. Video provided by ChuckGrody, Korzic, and Pawdugan.
ChuckGrody: / chuckgrody , / @sageowl
Korzic: / korzic
rtrger: / rtrger
Pawdugan: / pawdugan
Music and Additional Video Attribution: pastebin.com/Gm8hruFK
A big thank you to all of my patrons!
00:00 Introduction
00:28 Daventry
08:38 Dimension of Death
10:41 The Swamp
15:52 Underground Realm of the Gnomes
21:15 The Barren Region
25:20 The Frozen Reaches
32:14 Paradise Lost
33:12 Realm of the Sun

Пікірлер: 622
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
Addenda: This video isn't meant to be a complete history of the speedrun. In some cases, I missed some interesting details. I'd like to give credit where it's due, and offer corrections when necessary. 03:41 bulbipop's run was the first to feature the trick with the wizard. 05:02 rtrger discovered that, if you mess this trick up, you can quickly enter and exit the menu to get the dialog going again. 08:22 gimlao contributed a lot to the guide as well.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 2 жыл бұрын
You should pin your comment, editing it may have unpinned it
@barichm0
@barichm0 2 жыл бұрын
At the start of the game, you really should go to the waterfall first, and then the wizard. You can go to the portal during the first conversation with the wizard, and then to the knight's tomb. You can also get some more items along the way, including a basket of mushrooms in a hut, the dagger, and the shield potion and the Elixir of Life in the alchemist's hut. Items in huts can be grabbed through the window. You can get the candle, three baskets of mushrooms, and the rope and hook during the second conversation. To do this, you have to go out of range at the start of the first conversation. There is just barely enough time to get out of range before Connor finishes his initial segment. Although none of the runners have done this, it really is much better.
@Sevenigma777
@Sevenigma777 5 ай бұрын
Lllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllpllllppppl
@KasumiShino
@KasumiShino 2 жыл бұрын
My mom finished this game. I remember there was a puzzle she couldn't do. She got in contact with Sierra and found out that it was coded wrong so it was unsolvable. So they gave her a code to use so she could skip it.
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
That's hilarious! I'd be curious what it was. I'm guessing a console command.
@EmeraldLavigne
@EmeraldLavigne 2 жыл бұрын
Omg Fuckin quality shit right there lol
@EmergencyChannel
@EmergencyChannel 2 жыл бұрын
If that's a true story, I wonder if they fixed it in later versions?
@Tinfoiltomcat
@Tinfoiltomcat 2 жыл бұрын
What a legend
@SeekerGoldstone
@SeekerGoldstone 2 жыл бұрын
I've never heard of anyone contacting the company when they get stuck in a game... except for moms playing Sierra games.
@akumjh
@akumjh 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, since the monsters roaming the land hadn't been slain, the people of the kingdom didn't survive long after their depetrification.
@Dark_Jaguar
@Dark_Jaguar 2 жыл бұрын
Presumably the monsters were sealed up after the mask was restored, since I THINK the lore implies they were all unleashed by the breaking of the mask.
@richardmahn7589
@richardmahn7589 Жыл бұрын
@@Dark_Jaguar Na. People all ded. Dat why no KQ9, heh.
@Daveforever
@Daveforever 7 ай бұрын
learn to speak, gorrila@@richardmahn7589
@generalgk
@generalgk 2 жыл бұрын
“What ho! A solid wall. Perchance I can phase my body through as an apparition would. Then I could complete my journey with great haste!”
@dr.joctor3454
@dr.joctor3454 2 жыл бұрын
so we really just gonna ignore how metal it is that you backflip onto the head of a skeleton to get over the gates of hell
@DarkOmegaMK2
@DarkOmegaMK2 2 жыл бұрын
"They put a sliding puzzle at the end of the game" The best part about it is when you enter the room of the puzzle, Connor will say "I will establish ORDER" like it's gonna do something badass, but he just pushes blocks.
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade Жыл бұрын
Well he IS putting the blocks in order...
@DarkOmegaMK2
@DarkOmegaMK2 Жыл бұрын
@@ZorotheGallade It's not about the fact that he does it or not, it's the presentation, he enters the room like a total badass with his shiny armor and he exclaims out loud the phrase to a bunch of blocks. That's like if i was yelled "I am going to rid this place of filth!!!" and then i just grab a broom and a mop.
@ZorotheGallade
@ZorotheGallade Жыл бұрын
​@@DarkOmegaMK2 Tbh everyone should do that whenever they are about to do something. "YOU SHALL BE TEMPERED IN THE FIRES OF HELL" --me to my pizza as I turn on the oven.
@DarkOmegaMK2
@DarkOmegaMK2 Жыл бұрын
@@ZorotheGallade That would seriously be awesome! "I WILL OVERCOME THESE CHALLENGES!!" and then it's just doing the school homework.
@StevenOBrien
@StevenOBrien 2 жыл бұрын
Wizard: "Come closer lad, I cannot hear you from such a distance" when 10ft away Also wizard: *carries on entire conversation while player is literally in another dimension*
@afroteddybear
@afroteddybear Жыл бұрын
Yes, the wizard couldn't hear, but he can most certainly yell! Probably yelled himself deaf.
@Jesthers
@Jesthers 2 жыл бұрын
All I can think of whenever Conner does a jump is the Super Mario 64 long jump sound effect. That "Wahoo!"
@polytanksan5761
@polytanksan5761 2 жыл бұрын
WAHOOOO!
@smithgdwg
@smithgdwg 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being so anxious to get this game that I ordered it directly from Sierra but it was on Backorder for I think a month or two. But when I ordered it I also included a little unknown game called Half-Life, which I wasn't really expecting much from. Lets just say I didn't really care much about this game after playing Half-Life.
@HYPERMASCULINE
@HYPERMASCULINE 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't unknown, it was widely and extensively previewed in media
@antipsychotic451
@antipsychotic451 2 жыл бұрын
@@HYPERMASCULINE They were joking. Obviously they don't think that Half Life was legitimately an unknown game.
@r0b0hobo
@r0b0hobo 2 жыл бұрын
I found a demo disk of Half Life the other day with a Sierra logo on it, had no idea Sierra was involved.
@smithgdwg
@smithgdwg 2 жыл бұрын
@@antipsychotic451 Yeah it was kind of tongue in cheek. I did hear about the game before, but I definitely wasn't expecting much from it. I remember there was an article about how fungus would grow on the walls and such if you travel back to an earlier location.
@joshshepherd5873
@joshshepherd5873 Жыл бұрын
My grandma was an early PC gamer and I used to watch her play this game and others like it for hours, miss her a lot
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye Жыл бұрын
Your grandma was awesome.
@panchampangoro4999
@panchampangoro4999 2 жыл бұрын
Love how all of Connor’s badass comeback lines boil down to “no u”
@GTXDash
@GTXDash 2 жыл бұрын
I was laughing for a good 30sec. I don't know why i found this comment soooo funny XD. I guess it's because I only realised just how true this observation is after reading this and not after finishing the game even for the 3rd time.
@shinyagumon7015
@shinyagumon7015 2 жыл бұрын
He hasn't skilled his Comeback abilities yet.
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine if the games had played into that deliberately, making Connor someone who desperately wants to be a cool badass hero, but can't figure out what to say until it's too late.
@lordofshades9852
@lordofshades9852 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean that whole thing where you replay arguments in your head while showering thinking about what you could've said instead of what you originally did?
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 Жыл бұрын
no u
@bobobofett
@bobobofett 2 жыл бұрын
i had this as a kid growing up. i found the first level terrifying, between the low visibility, the creepy ex-people statues, and the monsters, i was too scared to play the game. but the box came with a manual that had a monster glossary. i remember just reading it over and over again and marveling on the art and (now bad) poly renders, trying to imagine what the game is like. when i was like 18 or so, i reinstalled it on a newer machine, but the game ran poorly and would crash during a major puzzle on the 2nd level (land of the dead). i didnt know about the river skip and thought thats just where my journey ends. i never played it again and forgot all about it. im 30 now and i find this. thanks for the memories!
@dariussonofjazzlin7433
@dariussonofjazzlin7433 2 жыл бұрын
Similar experience here! I watched my mother play it for and the death dimension unnerved me quite a bit.
@91Vault
@91Vault 2 жыл бұрын
I find the music kinda disquieting even just watching this video
@SneakiestChameleon
@SneakiestChameleon 2 жыл бұрын
King Snail: "Well done, you've slained the witch!" Witch: *"Am I a joke to you?"*
@GrausamerKerberos
@GrausamerKerberos 2 жыл бұрын
14:39: "Hello, I can hear you, lads!"
@evilsheepmaster1744
@evilsheepmaster1744 Жыл бұрын
King Snail: "Wonderful. I couldn't tolerate that old biddy" Witch: ( ಠ_ಠ)
@KM-hv1jg
@KM-hv1jg 2 ай бұрын
“Sometimes I think I can still hear her voice… 😔 “
@Nekosphere
@Nekosphere 2 жыл бұрын
great video! i liked how one sees the game from beginning to end, like watching a normal speedrun, but inbetween you get these speedrunstrats-history. very interesting mix I didn't knew I need/want more of^^
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I stole / borrowed the format from Tomatoanus, if you want more of this style. Searching for "tomatoanus speedrun explained" should do it. Fair warning, his videos focus more on the current strats, and less on the history, but are nonetheless very detailed.
@bobby2turnt
@bobby2turnt 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneShortEye Your tone of commentary is perfect. Made me laugh a lot.
@TheMelnTeam
@TheMelnTeam 2 жыл бұрын
It all makes sense. He was also turned to stone, but was able to simply clip through the petrification. That is why he was able to survive the curse and save the kingdom.
@GroundThing
@GroundThing 2 жыл бұрын
8:16 "By the way, if you don't like glitches and want to see a glitchless run, you're going to have to do it yourself" So what you're saying is, I could become a World Record speedrunner?
@Nemmy72
@Nemmy72 2 жыл бұрын
A small thing, I really enjoy this games animation style The bouncy animation with the low poly look has a nice charm to it.
@--_--_--_--_
@--_--_--_--_ 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, its quite well animated for a game that old, even more the cutscenes.
@bobby2turnt
@bobby2turnt 2 жыл бұрын
It took my watching this speedrun for me to appreciate this style. These designers were trying in such an earnest way to create the most immersive experience. I love it.
@flavortown3781
@flavortown3781 2 жыл бұрын
I get like RuneScape vibes from it
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, look at cutscene at 28:44 a body splash countered into backflipping Canadian Destroyer through the floor onto the spikes, yay! And 27:28 has those camera angles for a leg drop into a rear chokehold neck snap. I miss when action heroes in videogames casually did pro wrestling moves xD
@timothymclean
@timothymclean Жыл бұрын
The models and textures are very PS1, but the animations...well, the _rigs_ are also PS1, but it's clear that skilled animators did what they could within their technical constraints.
@dglynch222
@dglynch222 2 жыл бұрын
It's funny: I bought this game at full retail price when it first came out, and I still have the original CD. But I only played it briefly, and hated it so much that I don't even recognize any of the early puzzles in this video. I'm pretty sure I just ran around Daventry fighting monsters for a few minutes, then uninstalled the game in disgust.
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
I know I at least got to the dimension of death, because I remember activating some of the easter eggs there. I'm not entirely sure we made it beyond that.
@Aldrius
@Aldrius 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneShortEye I played the whole thing and beat it. If it had been finished it would have been an... okay game, maybe.
@mrburns366
@mrburns366 2 жыл бұрын
I don't even know why anyone would bother speed running this game.. it's shit. Lol
@bobby2turnt
@bobby2turnt 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrburns366 I believe that's the point my friend. lol
@mrburns366
@mrburns366 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobby2turnt they're trying to get it over with because it sucks so bad. 😂
@lewis6180
@lewis6180 2 жыл бұрын
"Who are you, Sir... Snail?" lmao this was, I think, the first ever 3D game I ever played, because my mom assumed it was suitable for kids my age based on King's Quest VII, with its deceptively childish animation style. I actually loved how dark and violent it was, and how distinct each of the different worlds were.
@lewis6180
@lewis6180 2 жыл бұрын
Also there was a cheat code to make Connor naked, which as a little gay nerd... Never mind.
@CosmicZ2222
@CosmicZ2222 2 жыл бұрын
I gotta say, considering the time period and the hardware involved, this is a pretty well animated game. the characters have good flow and it's pretty smooth overall, all things considered.. most games around this time didn't have it. oh and the textures for their mouths moving actually lip-sync to fit what they're pronouncing. most games had that "muppet" animating or 2 frames of textures for talking.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
Well that's the problem they went for the graphics and animations (PC allowed that) instead of gameplay, and first Tomb Rider looks like ass but still VERY playable. This looks smooth but... well. And even then TR had stand-out animations, though stuff. Most 3D third person games of PS1 era are animated horribly.
@splitframe
@splitframe 2 жыл бұрын
It's absolutely insane. It's fully voiced. Has great cutscene animations. The devs really did great work there. The graphics just couldn't keep up.
@Guy4318
@Guy4318 2 жыл бұрын
I love how theatrical Connor’s animations are. The slinky way he presents the axe after obtaining it, his heroic poses after some sequences, energy making his body uncontrollable until he wills himself together. So much of this is still in my memory.
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 2 жыл бұрын
@@KasumiRINA It's more tragic than that, they didn't "go for the graphics over gameplay". They had this LOONY-ASS CHURCH COMPANY they partnered with to finance this game (and the loonies didn't SAY they were going to pull their crap off), and those guys basically tried to neuter KQ to kingdom come and turn it into this crazy propaganda bible game. By the time Ken and Roberta finally wrestled their IP back from these a-holes they had almost no time left to complete the game. Basically what they shipped was what they could fix up of an alpha build with what remaining budget they had, and at a loss at that. IIRC Space Quest Historian is friends with the dude who deep-dove into why this King's Quest was what it is on his featured channels or linked in one of his interviews' descriptions.
@rswindol
@rswindol Жыл бұрын
It was pretty impressive back then. Controls were awful, though. And it took FOREVER to load. I think if you went to a different level, it would install it to the hard drive from the cd and delete the previous area. It would take well over 10 minutes.
@tomd5069
@tomd5069 2 жыл бұрын
I got this game from my dads collection, it’s surreal, even playing through casually I glitched through big portions of the game, partly because a coding error that is forever engraved in my mind and has become a family meme. “Lo, a feather!”. The game is so wonky Most damage dealing Barriers can be brute forced by spamming healing items mid jump, and backflips can get you over almost anything. I think I also read that for some reason Connors long jump is 10 feet up and 15 feet forward, human grasshopper.
@DigiEggz
@DigiEggz 2 жыл бұрын
In addition to his incredible leaps, at 27:33 he breaks the guard's neck without breaking a sweat. He even pauses a bit before snapping it, as if to savor the moment. He's a monster.
@playlistsaving2650
@playlistsaving2650 2 жыл бұрын
Alternative titles to the game. King's Quest 8: Stoners Makes the Wall Clipping So Much Stronger. King's Quest 8: Clipping of Eternity. King's Quest 8: Connor Punches Mummies Barehanded. King's Quest 8: The Last Boss thru' Punch Loading King's Quest 8: The Four Pieces of RNG.
@Ditcho13
@Ditcho13 2 жыл бұрын
I remember my Mum playing this game and her struggling for months at a time as she tried to map things out, take notes and basically brute force her way through to completing it. If only she knew the magic of the wall clips, with a couple of well timed backflips 🤷‍♀️ Also Speedrun!Connor is the most madlad character I’ve ever seen. Zounds! None are as powerful as he.
@orionfire1947
@orionfire1947 2 жыл бұрын
"You may notice he doesn't have a weapon equipped. That's because what he equipped is his fist." Those wristbands really coming in handy keeping him together.
@s.l.r.9407
@s.l.r.9407 2 жыл бұрын
"Oh no, I left my key inside!" "Anyway," >turns to the side and starts clipping the wall
@MisterMiller
@MisterMiller 2 жыл бұрын
Personally, I wish Connor would have also turned to stone. Then the frame rate would have made sense.
@MisterMiller
@MisterMiller 2 жыл бұрын
On that note, I should also come clean: I've been playing it for four hours so far on stream, and didn't realize first-person mode was a thing until watching this.
@TheBlarggle
@TheBlarggle 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody who wanted to play a "King's Quest" game wanted to play a 3D tomb raider-style adventure, let alone "blow something up".
@KopperNeoman
@KopperNeoman 2 жыл бұрын
Adventure gamers like to blow things up by finding five hidden Snipes, feeding thdm to the wizard's pet gerbil so he turns into gunpowder, then stuffing the hollowed-out wheelchair with said powder and rolling it off the sleeping dragon's back.
@AuspexAO
@AuspexAO 2 жыл бұрын
I know exactly what happened to the adventure game genre. I was a kiddo playing adventure games my dad bought for his old PCs (we're talking 286 and before). My dad saw PC games as a sort of novelty, but I LOVED them (and still do). He stopped playing them and I ended up getting a Nintendo. I still loved adventure games, but consoles kind of funneled my young purchases towards more action based games. I think that same thing happened with a lot of kids growing up with dads and moms who bought those earlier KQ and SQ games. Their parents never really became "gamers" but our generation did and missed our adventure games. So when they started making them again, we jumped at the chance to buy them. I think Sierra just suffered from consoles not really being advanced enough to handle the full speech and sVGA graphics of the era.
@EmergencyChannel
@EmergencyChannel 2 жыл бұрын
This game outsold Grim Fandango 2 to 1 in 1998 and was one of the best selling King's Quest games. Maybe adventure game fans didn't like it, but there isn't enough of them to make games profitable.
@Zelinkokitsune
@Zelinkokitsune 2 жыл бұрын
Except you've gotten to the point where games had evolved beyond absurd puzzle BS with logic that even the Mad Hatter would find hard to follow. Remember to disguise as a man who doesn't have a mustache you must create a mustache. And god help you if you didn't pass the pixel hunt or missed a QTE to nap a critical item or your game is unwinnable! Sierra adventure games looking back at it was a case of Stockholm syndrome. At least Lucas Arts didn't have a myriad of softlocks in every game.
@aarvlo
@aarvlo 2 жыл бұрын
@@EmergencyChannel that's so sad, but then again nobody remembers this game and grim fandango is still being played today thanks to the remaster
@yourex-wife4259
@yourex-wife4259 2 жыл бұрын
24:07 Freeza: Finally, a noble knight has come to my rescue.. wait.. where are you going
@yuturtuyieie5544
@yuturtuyieie5544 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game when I was a child. Couldn't get pass the mill at the starting region. A friend asked to borrow the cd and see if he could solve the problem. In reality, he just stole it, and I never got to see that copy again. Years later, I remembered that torrent was a thing, downloaded mask of eternity and finally completed it. Such a broken, ugly, glorious game! I ​still get chills from the noises and the darkness in Daventry. Greetings from Brazil.
@PandoraJane37
@PandoraJane37 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy there's a video explaining these stuff. I've been following KQ8 for a while and it's really cool to have more details about the speedrun progression of the game
@SamiTheAnxiousBean
@SamiTheAnxiousBean 2 жыл бұрын
Door: *asks question Connor: Clipping is always the answer
@PokeNebula
@PokeNebula 2 жыл бұрын
4:00 very funny to see the wizard asking the player to come closer while the player is running away
@CRTglow
@CRTglow 2 жыл бұрын
Must say, I do like the animations in this game, this is my first time seeing it. It requires more skill to animate models with such a low poly count and make it look presentable
@Casanuda
@Casanuda 2 жыл бұрын
It's an action RPG with no real story. It's also an action RPG with no tactics. It also is a game with almost no music. It also barely works with constant crashing and absurd load times. It was always going to be a bad game.
@richardmahn7589
@richardmahn7589 Жыл бұрын
Got to love the humor: 14:25 "I see you slew that vile witch"....yet the witch is standing right in front of him, even clipping through him. And then Connor says he did slay her...LIAR! lol.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 2 жыл бұрын
I love that there's ads placed RIGHT when you talk about crashes, it kinda gives the experience of the video crashing lmao, makes my heart squeeze because on reflex too. xD
@keachweder6217
@keachweder6217 6 ай бұрын
Oh man this is such a nostalgia trip. I watched my dad play this as a kid and loved every minute of it.
@hainsay
@hainsay 2 жыл бұрын
"And that was the dimension of death, one of the shortest levels in the speedrun" Oh, that was painful...
@GTXDash
@GTXDash 2 жыл бұрын
Me too. When i saw that skip i was litterally all like "Shut up! It really is that simple?!". That level was so big and had so much stuff in it that it probably shouldve been the final level. After finishing it, imaging my surprise how much shorter each level was after. Maybe the devs did intend for the rest of the game to be much longer but couldn't for whatever reason.
@StephenCinAZ
@StephenCinAZ 2 жыл бұрын
I played through and beat this whole game the "proper" way back in the day. I remember even finding one or two easter eggs (hidden dialogue bloopers and such). I had forgotten how obnoxiously nasal Conner's voice was!
@eumoria
@eumoria 2 жыл бұрын
This was silly! Loved the other KQ episodes but I've never even seen this janky mess before. Great video!
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
"Janky" is exactly the word for it.
@Starcraft2Krauts
@Starcraft2Krauts 2 жыл бұрын
This game gave me nightmares when i was like 8 years old. The depressing and dark setting, everyone being turned to stone.. It did a good job at delivering emotions. Also the puzzles were really hard, never made it over the river in the underworld.
@Fender178
@Fender178 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I got this game I was so disappointed that I cheated and used a saved game to see the ending furthering my disappointment but later on when I got older I respected the game for what it was rather than what I wanted it to be and I picked up the game much later and completed it from beginning to end and enjoyed it. Also from that same message boards that I mentioned in the history of KQ6 speedruns that Roberta said that she lost creative control of Mask of Eternity it was very different from what she had in mind and the game was different from what Roberta envisioned. The saddest part about this is what might have been if Roberta didn't lose creative control over KQ:MOE.
@bobby2turnt
@bobby2turnt 2 жыл бұрын
This is the perfect End-to-End experience that we could all wish to unlock
@tristanfarbig6067
@tristanfarbig6067 2 жыл бұрын
Agree to 99% of your commonent- but i (now 34 years old) started with that Game... and i really loved it, for as you mention what it was... I also cheated first time ^^
@tristanfarbig6067
@tristanfarbig6067 2 жыл бұрын
@theRealIK 👍🏼
@Fender178
@Fender178 2 жыл бұрын
@theRealIK Well in Ken's defense the industry was changing and and people's tastes in games have also changed with Doom and Quake being very successful games in the Action genre and He thought no one would be interested in just Adventure games anymore. Also Roberta lost creative control of her game also the people who took over for her did a terrible job with the game and by the time she was able to regain control it was too late so she had to savage what she could. I agree they should have marketed the game as a KQ game set in the KQ Universe but not as a mainline game. Also It wasn't even called KQ8 Mask of Eternity it was just called King's Quest Mask of Eternity. How it got the KQ8 title was from other countries that marketed it as such and with fans it caught on. With me I never once called Mask of Eternity KQ8.
@sofija1996
@sofija1996 Жыл бұрын
Not to be rude to the developers and fans or dismiss the impact Sierra's titles had but it's hard not to expect most players to choose more straightforward, but still challenging and highly replayable action games like Doom or Tomb Raider over KQ and other old-school adventure titles when they mask their relatively short length with some of the most dickish or frustrating design choices - things like instant death events, awkward platforming/action sequences, RNG-based events and item spawns, instant death events: now on a timer!, and occasional moon logic puzzles meant to either force you into buying a guide or calling a tip hotline. It's just a little hard to enjoy a game focused on problem-solving and storytelling over manual dexterity when it's actively looking to trip you up and prevent you from beating it too soon with some of the cheapest tricks in the book, especially when it's the 80s or 90s and loading up a save or catching up on lost progress takes a hot minute due to slower hardware, and tip hotlines aren't cheap.
@JanRademan
@JanRademan 2 жыл бұрын
Before you knock this game for the clipping glich, Breath of the Wild speedrunners use a similar clipping bug 30 years later.
@DVX_BELLORVM
@DVX_BELLORVM 2 жыл бұрын
2:07 This quote really sums up the failure of late '90s Sierra. I hated the switch from beautiful, evocative, thought-provoking 2D adventure games to ugly, blocky, action-based 3D.
@KopperNeoman
@KopperNeoman 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, Gabriel Knight 3 and Quest for Glory 5 stuck their landings - because they didn't have the oh-so brilliant idea of completely changing genres. But Sierra had FOUR 3D engines for three games. The KQ9 engine, the GK3 engine, the QFG5 engine, and the QFG5 Demo engine. You know, the one that actually had the planned multiplayer? (For the best that fell through - how would you put Magnum Opus and Elsa Von Spielburg on the same footing as Devon Aidendale when the latter has four classes and as many games?)
@DVX_BELLORVM
@DVX_BELLORVM 2 жыл бұрын
@@KopperNeoman I have to tell you, as a huge fan of the QfG series who beat 1-4 multiple times back in the day, I could not finish QfG 5. I just thought it didn't look nearly as good or play as well as QfG 4 despite coming out almost five years later. Also, while Gabriel Knight 3 is a fine game, take a look at it now compared to the first game. While I grant you that tastes vary, I'd argue that the hand-drawn pixel art of 1993 is vastly superior to the low-res 3D of 1999.
@91Vault
@91Vault 2 жыл бұрын
i feel like it was an awkward but unavoidable time for games. I loved my N64 when i got it but i always felt the SNES looked better. Playing arcade games from the 90’s just before 3D took off shows the height of pixel art
@planescaped
@planescaped 2 жыл бұрын
@@91Vault I remember hating early 3rd graphics as a kid. I thought they looked awful even when brand new. All my older brother and anyone could go on about was that it was "3d wow!" It was a case of the new and exciting thing sugarcoating everything, but I was too young to be impressed by the tech.
@NassachiASMR
@NassachiASMR 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video - great explanation and everything~ I especially liked when you put in little overlays from the "normal way" so it was easier to see what the trick really was. Thank you 💜
@kittencorp.3295
@kittencorp.3295 2 жыл бұрын
12:45 you’re telling me this man can jump to the damn moon like that, but that little drop kills him?
@samdal420
@samdal420 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the snail fricking roasts the witch while she's litreally just standing there
@angelindenile
@angelindenile 2 жыл бұрын
Can we talk about how good the animations are in the cutscenes for a minute? For their time anyway; you can feel the weight and personality in much of the movement of the main character. Far and away ahead of its time.
@gustavovasconcelos9857
@gustavovasconcelos9857 2 жыл бұрын
I played this game when I was a kid. I remember I couldn't pass the first stage because I thought that was a demo, so I usually collect every single item and destroyed every single enemy. After some years, I installed it again and discovered how to advance to the other stage. I know that this is not a great King's Quest game, but I think it is indeed a great game overall for it's time. And it brings back so much memories!
@ItsJabo
@ItsJabo 2 жыл бұрын
YOOOO ShortEye, this is amazing - Keep making content like this man, I LOVE to see it
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
Jabo! Thanks for the kind words. I saw you uploaded a speedrun history on Dead Money. I look forward to watching that, and I'd love to see more Fallout speedrun history. I also miss watching your stream as much as I used to. About a year ago my work blocked Twitch, so I can only catch you on the weekends. Hope you're well.
@ItsJabo
@ItsJabo 2 жыл бұрын
@@OneShortEye its nice to see you've stepped into the content market, Im so excited for your future man
@BayleyBengal
@BayleyBengal 2 жыл бұрын
Love how there's timing of when Connor says, "Zounds!" to get a warp!
@yvendous
@yvendous 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the overlaid footage of the skipped portions of the game especially since I haven't played it before
@NTSTS0
@NTSTS0 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great video. I really enjoyed the narration, sense of personality, explanations, and humour.
@novelezra
@novelezra 2 жыл бұрын
Watching this kind of feels like drinking the river water at Duff Gardens.
@T3sl4
@T3sl4 2 жыл бұрын
To paraphrase: you are the Lezra Queen?
@novelezra
@novelezra 2 жыл бұрын
@@T3sl4 I can see through time...
@nickrawls08
@nickrawls08 2 жыл бұрын
"In fact, the game crashed so much that every run-" *Random Ads play* I may hate ads in videos, but I actually enjoyed that timing xD
@PlasticCogLiquid
@PlasticCogLiquid 2 жыл бұрын
Mask of Eternity was awesome
@artiepavlov6593
@artiepavlov6593 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy, i forgot how good for the time cutscene animations were in this
@namemycactus
@namemycactus 2 ай бұрын
The juxtaposition of watching this man made of 12 polygons snap another guy's neck made my jaw drop
@MartianCandies
@MartianCandies Жыл бұрын
12:17 it's so uncanny how real the floors in the swamp look where as the walls look like...like that
@Mooshkajoe
@Mooshkajoe 2 жыл бұрын
My ex from over 2 decades ago liked this game, but didn't really have gaming skill, so she made me sit down and play it so she could watch it. Surprisingly, that's not what had us break up, but would have been a good reason considering how tortuous it was for me. Excellent video as usual.
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
lolololol
@HansLemurson
@HansLemurson 2 жыл бұрын
I have bad memories of games from this dark era, when everybody decided that "Ugly 3D is better than Beautiful 2D"
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
They were dark days, indeed.
@MintyArisato
@MintyArisato 2 жыл бұрын
and now we're in "beautiful 3d is better than making a good game" (w a lot of triple A companies)
@somedragonbastard
@somedragonbastard Жыл бұрын
@@MintyArisato seriously the obsession with hyper realistic graphics is so stupid and so bad for games
@TheSultan1470
@TheSultan1470 Жыл бұрын
@@somedragonbastard No.
@creedolala6918
@creedolala6918 2 жыл бұрын
the way you edit these to keep dead time to a minimum and keep us interested is really well done. even the long videos move along nicely.
@emilydale5761
@emilydale5761 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video! You do such a good job of making these accessible to those who don’t already know the games, without sacrificing any cool details. Well done!
@redrum3r
@redrum3r 2 жыл бұрын
this kinda makes me want to see a new entry in the series as a souls-like
@notsyzagts7967
@notsyzagts7967 2 жыл бұрын
There was another entry after this but it went back to the more traditional style of gameplay.
@goshdarntootin
@goshdarntootin 2 жыл бұрын
The comments about how amazing the game is over layered on top of someone completely busting it to bits made me smile lol I don't think that was the desired effect but it was very funny to me.
@GTXDash
@GTXDash 2 жыл бұрын
The thing is though you really couldnt discover these glitches during a casual playthrough.
@Tomix4k
@Tomix4k 2 жыл бұрын
Without the combat, story and puzzles, this game looks pretty good!
@godsblink.4637
@godsblink.4637 4 ай бұрын
The low draw-distance honestly gives this Silent Hill vibes, especially with that low dark ambient in the BG.
@BenHanson137
@BenHanson137 Жыл бұрын
XD, "if you don't like this run, your gonna have to do it yourself" has to be my favorite line in one of these types of videos in a loooong time lol. Thanks for documenting and sharing
@feelinghealing3890
@feelinghealing3890 5 ай бұрын
Final boss: "FOUL SWINE" The jojo protagonist that is the player: "With my stand [CHILD IN TIME] I can surpass barriers of space AND time, which I am using to PUNCH YOU TO DEATH!"
@ArthurDraco
@ArthurDraco 2 жыл бұрын
8:15 there is a glitchless run now submitted by ChuckGrody himself.
@Rd0Lg
@Rd0Lg 2 жыл бұрын
My man borrowed a move from Terry Bogard at 9:00 to kill the Shadow Bane, lol. POWER WAVE! I've never played any of these games but these videos are so comfy. And informative too, even if it's probably not something I will ever use. Thank you for making them.
@wayner396
@wayner396 2 жыл бұрын
The graphics, color pallet, and animation are surprisingly good. This was fun to watch
@AntipaladinPedigri
@AntipaladinPedigri Жыл бұрын
My fav part of the game was Connor stealing the townsfolk's money and then apologizing to the statues or telling them how he needs it to save them, or that the money won't go to waste etc.
@Heriarka
@Heriarka 2 жыл бұрын
the animation at 7:50 cracks me up. There's so much expression in it and yet it still looks like a sock puppet being flailed around
@Trashloot
@Trashloot 2 жыл бұрын
This video is so well made. I love that you show the parts that were skipped. Was a really nice watch.
@joshyeager7222
@joshyeager7222 2 жыл бұрын
This is one of the games that got me into gaming. My dad used to play it while my siblings and I watched. Still one of my favorite nostalgic games. I replay it at least once a year
@jack0lantrn
@jack0lantrn 2 жыл бұрын
I love this blend of game facts and speedrun history. Very enjoyable format
@pikamario99
@pikamario99 Жыл бұрын
Man I've somehow never heard of this entry before but can I just say I LOVE the character animations in it. So fun and expressive, kind of in contrast to the general dour atmosphere actually.
@assboi
@assboi 2 жыл бұрын
What a stellar commentary, not just on the run, but on the game history aswell? that's some spicy content right here
@deathstinger13
@deathstinger13 Жыл бұрын
never played the full game, but I remember having a demo of it ages back. Always wondered what it was, since I only had vague memories, and had no idea what a 'kings quest' was. That said, the cutscenes are actually really impressive given the era, by my understanding, since everything else seems to rely on canned animations. you can really tell the game was built by adventure game specialists
@jefferyjefferson689
@jefferyjefferson689 2 жыл бұрын
I died at the scene with the bird king saying he had to return to his people. I never want to know the context of that moment.
@markoforfun
@markoforfun 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,as a person who didnt play any kings quest games , i still enjoyed the video a ton . Thanks for making it
@Awas79
@Awas79 2 жыл бұрын
Love how you show us what gets skipped with those overlay videos. Keep up the good work
@vertigq5126
@vertigq5126 2 жыл бұрын
This was awesome! Really enjoyed the format, jokes and insight! One of the most engaging ways of discussing speed running I’ve ever seen. Keep it up man, God bless you!
@Theferrell
@Theferrell 2 жыл бұрын
New to these videos, I really like them. I enjoy listening to these during work hours, keep up the good work amigo!
@yetiwoof4019
@yetiwoof4019 2 жыл бұрын
Great videos man. A run from start to end with your commentary, sweet mix.
@mattheweurt26
@mattheweurt26 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love it if your channel did these in depth breakdowns for games of other series as well, the evolution of the speed run and speaking to the runners involved. I've never played these games but I've binged all of the videos on your channel because they're so well made
@Bklyn93
@Bklyn93 2 жыл бұрын
I love this game, big Sierra and big KQ fan. This is probably my second or third favorite King’s Quest overall.
@akumasama3437
@akumasama3437 2 жыл бұрын
never even played a kings quest in my life, and i already watch you talk about the 3rd and 6th installment
@BadWallaby
@BadWallaby 2 жыл бұрын
By the Gods! He’s gone through the wall! Sorcery!
@monocore
@monocore 2 жыл бұрын
Kinda love the format. I appreciate the narration on a good run, but this kind of straighforward stuff is amazing. Don't get me wrong, I do enjoy some drama from time to time, but this is better.
@neuroplush7657
@neuroplush7657 5 ай бұрын
26:30 startled me so bad. I thought the bow was an enemy from behind and the weird sounds just gave me a sudden panic response. Great video overall.
@englishwithphil42
@englishwithphil42 2 жыл бұрын
This is more than a speedrun, this is an art of deconstructing the game, debugging it and reverse engineering some concepts, building incredibly complex algorithms, optimizing them and training your skills so that everything is executed perfectly. I am amazed!
@Maggerama
@Maggerama 2 жыл бұрын
I remember being completely taken aback by this preposterous installment. I still barely believe it existed, even after watching the video. Yet, even this is better than King's Quest VII. Oh yeah, I particularly appreciate you showing some of the skipped bits. I haven't seen anyone doing this before! NICE.
@anumbah9large936
@anumbah9large936 2 жыл бұрын
loved it! never played any of the games or done any speedrunning but these videos are simply enjoyable
@enemyofvirtue
@enemyofvirtue 2 жыл бұрын
your channel is incredible, man. i really appreciate how you explain not only the techniques, but the game as well as if the viewer knows absolutely nothing about the game.
@OneShortEye
@OneShortEye 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! While the games were pretty well-known when they came out, I work on the assumption that most people today aren't familiar with them (or don't remember them).
@cIeetz
@cIeetz 2 жыл бұрын
Its interesting how the community gases eachother up and supports eachother and its really just an evolution more than a competition . You legit cant keep Your secrets You find from the community because it has to be shared on the saved video xD
@VVen0m
@VVen0m 2 жыл бұрын
I like this video style, it's like an actual documentary, but also merged with a typical youtube analysis video
@w41tey
@w41tey 4 ай бұрын
Back in 1999, I used to jump backflips towards the corner walls in "Dimension Of Death" trying to climb over them, and somehow managed to get to the other side and walk along the far bank of the river right into the portal to the "Swamp"
@brownei23
@brownei23 Ай бұрын
Was not prepared for Connors 8ft vertical.
@Mr_Top_Hat_Jones
@Mr_Top_Hat_Jones Жыл бұрын
Man, those seem like really short falls to die from. Cool speedrun. In all my years playing Sierra games, I’d never even heard of this one.
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